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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #200 on: January 10, 2011, 04:49:27 PM »
I have never used a coil nailer. As long as it will shoot the nail size and type you want to use I don't see any reason it would not work I doubt it would be better or worse.

I have noticed that my experience seems to be better using the manufacturer's own nails compared to generic. By better I mean misfeeds or jams. They never happen with either of my Senco's when run on Senco nails and the Bostitch framing nailer is just about as bulletproof on Bostitch nails. . .  I don't know if that is typical or not.
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #201 on: January 24, 2011, 04:06:33 PM »
Yet another plan change on the siding.
I ordered metal today, same as my roof for the bottom 2' bumpout.
Its hard to beat the price per square foot on metal, and the speedy coverage that it offers.
it will act as a waterproof barrier on the bottom, and break the contrast with my log siding.
its is supposed to be here friday!
Can't wait!
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #202 on: January 24, 2011, 04:13:45 PM »
i bet it will look fantastic with the log and metal and you are right,.water barrier,. can not wait till i can move in and sponge off you and ada lol dad

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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #203 on: January 29, 2011, 04:03:19 PM »
I started my siding on the bump-out today, managed to put up about 50 linear feet with the motivation of my girls







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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #204 on: January 29, 2011, 08:21:38 PM »
not really a flat spot on the property


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« Reply #205 on: January 29, 2011, 09:06:40 PM »
Looks great!  I like how you've done that  :)
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #206 on: January 29, 2011, 09:14:18 PM »
Thanks Sassy,
the metal on the lower was an idea i got from Jan Nikolajsen's small house in moab.
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #207 on: January 30, 2011, 12:35:35 PM »
that will work perfectly to keep water rot from that part are you going under your floor wood with siding? dad

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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #208 on: February 04, 2011, 09:37:08 PM »
nice work!  thanks for posting all the pics.  [cool]
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #209 on: February 05, 2011, 08:57:54 AM »
nice work!  thanks for posting all the pics.  [cool]

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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #210 on: February 05, 2011, 09:09:00 AM »
Nice job! I too like the bottom band. You could also work the window trim so it comes right down to the water table over the metal. Then there is another opportunity on the trim out to run a band around the house over the window tops. This could break the siding pattern, provide for color contrast and allow something else on the gable ends. Perhaps horizontal bevel siding on the mid section and sidewall shingles on the gables.
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #211 on: February 05, 2011, 09:48:23 AM »
Nice job! I too like the bottom band. You could also work the window trim so it comes right down to the water table over the metal. Then there is another opportunity on the trim out to run a band around the house over the window tops. This could break the siding pattern, provide for color contrast and allow something else on the gable ends. Perhaps horizontal bevel siding on the mid section and sidewall shingles on the gables.
Thanks John,
I like the sidewall shingle Idea for the gables!
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #212 on: March 12, 2011, 05:24:25 PM »
got a short update,
finally put up a temporary gate. 16' tube gate and the electric co-op bid my power install up to my cabin.
it is a quarter of a mile to the nearest power available, plus we need the electric brought in ~120 feet on our property to reach.
we need ~8 poles installed. when they called me i prepared for the worst, but they said they will put it in FREE! WOW!
here are some pics of the gate and if you can see the pink flags, that is where some poles will be.


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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #213 on: March 12, 2011, 06:24:04 PM »
Can they put the lines underground?

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« Reply #214 on: March 12, 2011, 07:17:13 PM »
they can, but it is very expensive
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #215 on: March 13, 2011, 06:33:41 AM »
when did you learn that skill of building fence? [cool] it looks great.,.,.dad

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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #216 on: March 16, 2011, 01:42:58 PM »
started assembling my window trim frames today, the trim is a 2x6 ripped in half, the lower trim is beveled so it don't hold water.


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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #217 on: March 16, 2011, 03:41:39 PM »
astidham I built 8 windows from replacment windows for an addition on my house.   I used 3/4 stock and wrapped the exterior with metal and trimmed the inside of the exterior with vinyle quarter round. The interior was finished wood which was part of the 3/4 framing

You might consider breaking a piece of metal for a drip edge on the top of the windows to prevent water from entering and laying between the vinyle window and wood frame.   If you have any "grace" or ice guard left I woud be tempted to seal the top, sides and bottom (same as originally in proper order) where the wood meets the vinyle window.

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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #218 on: March 16, 2011, 04:51:20 PM »
astidham I built 8 windows from replacment windows for an addition on my house.   I used 3/4 stock and wrapped the exterior with metal and trimmed the inside of the exterior with vinyle quarter round. The interior was finished wood which was part of the 3/4 framing

You might consider breaking a piece of metal for a drip edge on the top of the windows to prevent water from entering and laying between the vinyle window and wood frame.   If you have any "grace" or ice guard left I woud be tempted to seal the top, sides and bottom (same as originally in proper order) where the wood meets the vinyle window.
Thanks Redoverfarm, my wife will paint them before the final installation, and I do need to flash and seal them. they are ~3" from the sheathed wall out
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #219 on: March 17, 2011, 07:07:13 AM »
One caution I would not seal the bottom of the wood window trim with graces.  The top and sides would be fine, but if water got between the window and the wood at the bottom the graces would keep the water in and not allow it to drain leading to rot. Just my opinion.
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #220 on: March 17, 2011, 07:20:13 AM »
Just my opinion.

And a good one. We do our best to keep the water out in the first place. However, it is cheap insurance to provide a way out in case our best efforts fail.
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« Reply #221 on: March 17, 2011, 06:06:49 PM »
Thanks all for your help, I don't have a lot of experience in that area
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #222 on: April 04, 2011, 01:17:28 PM »
The electric company set all the power poles to my place today.
tomorrow they will come back and string the power wire!!
they will be stretching wire about 1/4 mile..
electric is the easy part though, water, a different story.
drilling a well is not an option due to well history in the area.
the water department price for line installation is more expensive then building the entire cabin, so i will be installing a cistern.
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #223 on: April 04, 2011, 01:26:45 PM »
whats your cost going to be for the electricity?  In NW WI, its $4-6 depending on the state of your lot.  I'm about 1/4 mile from the nearest power source. Thinking solar might be really cool.

ooh, i want to learn more about cistern systems... what are your plans for that?   I like the idea of that too!
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #224 on: April 04, 2011, 01:52:15 PM »
whats your cost going to be for the electricity?  In NW WI, its $4-6 depending on the state of your lot.  I'm about 1/4 mile from the nearest power source. Thinking solar might be really cool.

ooh, i want to learn more about cistern systems... what are your plans for that?   I like the idea of that too!
the electric company charges 1200.00 a pole, each pole will stretch 300' of wire.
they charged us nothing because we removed all the trees for that 1/4 mile.
normally they will give you a couple of poles for free though.
on the cistern, we haven't ironed out all the details.   
I think we will use a 3000 gallon holding tank (above ground) and a well pump. a pressure vessel, and a 500 gallon tank to transport water to the cabin.
we had guttering put on our 30x50 shop for water catchment that will be used for the garden and animals. I would love to hear more ideas about cisterns if anyone has any....
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