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Title: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 07, 2010, 04:29:11 PM
batter boards are up!
I will Start building the beams monday, the lumber yard is closed until then..

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Pine Cone on May 07, 2010, 06:00:36 PM
 w*

Isn't the sight just a bit too flat?  And where are all the rocks and big stumps? ???

Other than that it looks like a great place to build. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 07, 2010, 06:27:03 PM
I'm sure we will find some when we dig the piers!! lol
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mountainmomma on May 08, 2010, 02:04:45 PM
There's got to be roots being so close to the tree, and there's always got to be branches you're gonna need to trim. Oh yeah, ya gonna get the gutters that keep out the leaves?   ::)     w*
Nice tractor, keep them pics coming.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 09, 2010, 03:13:44 PM
I hit roots digging the batter boards.
i will need gutter gaurds.
also i just bought the tractor, very fun machine
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 09, 2010, 04:07:08 PM
I got a question, would it be a problem to inset my piers to a width of 19'?
would the 6" overhang on each side be a problem?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ntexastomm on May 09, 2010, 05:07:02 PM
Good luck on your project. I'm hoping to start framing a 20x30  1.5 story this September in Oklahoma as well. Got my under slab rough plumbing and foundation done already, need to save more money for the big leap.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 09, 2010, 05:23:55 PM
Thank you ntexastomm, good luck to you.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on May 09, 2010, 06:35:28 PM
Quote
got a question, would it be a problem to inset my piers to a width of 19'?
would the 6" overhang on each side be a problem?

That's exactly what I did on mine. 19 ft. by 29 ft. on my 20 by 30. I did some research and asked a few folks here, it didn't seem to be any problem.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 09, 2010, 06:41:00 PM
Thank you dug, i will do the same as you.
in addition i will make my beam about 6 to 8" longer in case i need to re-square after the beams are nailed.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 14, 2010, 01:58:46 PM
I'm looking at buying a framming nailer and a compressor, anyone recommend one ???? a combo or seperate?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ScottA on May 14, 2010, 03:00:32 PM
 w* to a fellow Okie.

Porter Cable makes good nailers and compressors.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 14, 2010, 04:06:23 PM
Thank You ScottA,
I have been looking at the porter cable cfnbns combo
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 01, 2010, 07:08:07 PM
After trying to dig piers with an auger and posthole diggers for 8 hrs and only getting 1 hole ~20" deep, i had a backhoe come in and dig 2 strips 18" wide x 18" deep, deeper in some areas. by ~32' long
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i set in 4 lengths of rebar, tomorrow i will bend some rebar in an L shape and tie them protruding from the footings where the sonotube will be placed to extend the 6x6 post brackets out of the dirt.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Bobcat Thompson on June 01, 2010, 08:27:52 PM
Thats a beautiful property and a perfect building site

and that looks like it will shape up to be a pretty beefy foundation
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 02, 2010, 12:26:37 PM
Thank you Bobcat, i poured the concrete today. i will add more pictures in a little bit.
i used 6 yards of concrete to fill the holes close to grade
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 02, 2010, 04:44:19 PM
more dirt pictures
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 02, 2010, 04:47:46 PM
cow and concrete, the cows knocked over my batter boards the first time i put the up.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 03, 2010, 01:52:15 PM
Im going to attempt running sonotube collums to support the foundation beams instead of running 6x6 pt post.
if i can get them all level to each other.
 out comes the water level!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on June 03, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
Water levels work!

If you use a home made one color the water to make it more visible.

I believe it is best to work from a central point and work to get each post or sonotube leveled to that reference. That's more accurate than working from one post to another.   
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Osprey on June 03, 2010, 03:27:02 PM
Why is the rebar sticking out of your footers off center? Isn't that where your piers will be?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 03, 2010, 04:06:40 PM
Thank you MountainDon I will do that...
and Osprey, my backhoe guy dug the footers a little off center so the rebar is 4" outside of centerline of my pier.
to compensate for this i am using a 12" sonotube closer to the center of the footing that will pickup the stubbed out rebar
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Native_NM on June 03, 2010, 06:26:52 PM
Water levels work!

If you use a home made one color the water to make it more visible.

I believe it is best to work from a central point and work to get each post or sonotube leveled to that reference. That's more accurate than working from one post to another.   

Water levels work great.  For those who want a high-tech approach, a $35 dollar laser level and a $0.99 yardstick will also work nicely, especially on a project this small.  Cut a 2x2 sheet of plywood.  Set it right in the middle of the foundation.  Level it.   A couple of $2 centering bubbles work great, along with a pack of shims.  Use bricks, or similar to provide a sturdy level platform in the middle slightly higher than the top of your piers.  Now place the level on the platform.  Make sure not to move this platform until you are done.  Set your yardstick on top of the first pier or sonotube and shoot the laser dot on it.  Say it hits at 6".  Rotate the level around the perimeter to each pier and raise the top of each pier so that the dot hits at 6" on the yardstick.  Poor man's transit.  Very accurate.  Working from the center is the only way to do it.

This one has a nice micro adjustment that allows you to fine-tune level:

http://www.lowes.com/pd_236983-16878-60208_4294936478+4294837357_4294937087?productId=1170545


I have used this method on several projects and found it very easy and accurate.  I have 100' of retaining wall that is within 1/8".  I checked it with a high-dollar laser level when we had a contractor over to do some concrete work.

Some new laser levels have a tripod screw mount.  I tried using a tripod but found the platform easier to use, as it is more stable.

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 03, 2010, 06:31:35 PM
Thank You for the advice Native_NM
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 06, 2010, 11:46:09 AM
finished the sonotube toda.
we are using the sonotube to hold the bracket for the 6x6 pt post, this will keep the post out of the dirt and make our foundation adjustable.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on June 07, 2010, 11:44:58 AM
He Todd,You done real good.  Glad you found this sight so that dad and I can watch your progress.  If we lived closer, I'm certain dad would be right along side you helping out  :) [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 07, 2010, 07:31:05 PM
google maps updated this week, however i removed the pictures because they were not working right
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 13, 2010, 03:05:36 PM
Got to the building site today and had some company
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I cut all my 6x6 post to a general size put them in the brackets
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i used the water level to mark all of them level to each other and cut them
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after installing I fastened them with 16 galv nails and 10 galv nails because i didnt have enough of the 16s for all of them
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on June 13, 2010, 04:02:09 PM
great pics looking great son
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 17, 2010, 01:45:04 PM
Got 1 beam built today, it started good but the ending result looks to be 1/4th to 1/2" height different on some of the 2x12s in the beam,
i will put the best side up for the floor joist
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John_M on June 17, 2010, 03:12:16 PM
That is a huge and HEAVY beam to transport to the jobsite!!  Why not just make it there?

Just curious... ???
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 17, 2010, 03:52:27 PM
You are right John_M, they are heavy.
I built them at my house because i work 2nd shift and can only do so much at a time.
my property is about 30 minutes from my house, so only an hr round trip but my house is closer to work.

im not real sure how we will get these loaded... ???
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on June 17, 2010, 06:02:17 PM
On almost all lumber there is a slight, or sometimes not so slight warp along the edge (called a crook I think) which should be positioned up in most cases. Depending on the pier spacing it probably won't make a difference but I think it would be good practice for future beams, joists, rafters, etc.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 17, 2010, 06:07:34 PM
Thank you dug I will keep that in mind when im building #2.
your beams look flawless
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on June 17, 2010, 06:33:41 PM
Dug is right on...even the terminology  [cool] Crook is a hockey stick, bow is the side planking of a boat.
Put crown up on everything, if one person is cutting and others working we put an arrow on the face pointing up to the crown edge. Even walls laying on the deck are crowned all in the same direction so you don't end up with back and forth crowns down the length of the wall.

If you have one, I very often power plane the top edge of built up girders to get a truer surface to work from.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on June 17, 2010, 07:10:35 PM
Quote
your beams look flawless

Thanks! That's nice to hear, however while sometimes photos can expose things you never noticed, they can also mask flaws. Mine are not perfect, but will do.

If I had the full kit (power planer Don mentioned) that would have been real nice. Lumber may be sold as 8, 10 12 in. etc., but those numbers are just an approximation.

Sometimes I dream of a giant disc sander, 50 ft. in diameter that is mind controlled and can produce a perfectly flat plane on any surface. Should I be worried?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Native_NM on June 18, 2010, 06:14:10 AM
I've seen them tow huge steel beams before.  They attach an axle to one end and a tongue to the other.  Hmmm....   ;D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John Raabe on June 18, 2010, 08:13:36 AM
If you ever get that disc sander worked out, let us know. Could be a helpful tool :D :D :D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 18, 2010, 09:44:22 AM
Beam #2 Finished
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on June 18, 2010, 10:14:56 AM
While the beams look nice I'm envious of the green lawns.


Now I want to see how the beams get moved.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 18, 2010, 10:25:20 AM
Im wondering how also, i will take pics...
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 19, 2010, 12:59:21 PM
loaded the beams today,we first put them on a industrial 4 wheel dolly
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we wheeled them to the trailer and winched them up
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they only had a little overhang...lol
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we moved the beams to the cabin site, how will we get them off the trailer?
we will manhandle them, with the tractor
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all of this was directed by my daughter Leilani
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on June 19, 2010, 05:08:22 PM
well now i believe you should have an easy time from this time on,., just kidding but you have a great start,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on June 19, 2010, 07:06:24 PM
Nice use of tools moving those beams! I don't think it would have gone so smoothly had it been me doing the job. :-[
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on June 19, 2010, 07:14:07 PM
 ??? i see who the boss is and she is so cute gota love her
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 19, 2010, 07:35:12 PM
dug it went smoother than we thought it would, i cant believe how heavy those beams are each.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 19, 2010, 07:38:55 PM
??? i see who the boss is and she is so cute gota love her
she rules the roost  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on June 20, 2010, 01:19:15 PM
She certainly is a cutie  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 20, 2010, 07:22:02 PM
Thank you Sassy
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 21, 2010, 09:33:34 AM
I have the beams temporary in place.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 22, 2010, 02:59:02 PM
This is how we put the beams in place
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: SardonicSmile on June 22, 2010, 04:41:09 PM
This is how we put the beams in place


Looks a lot easier than what I did (raised slab). If I had to do it all over this is what I would do. Nice work!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 22, 2010, 06:32:33 PM
Thank You Sardonic Smile I have followed your thread, yours is looking real good!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John Raabe on June 23, 2010, 08:58:32 AM
Nice work and thanks for the helpful photos. Everyone can share and learn from a project like this.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on June 23, 2010, 10:47:52 AM
I was going to build my foundation like you did, using concrete above grade with posts in order to make leveling the beams easier but was concerned about getting good enough bracing with the short posts. I am wondering if you plan to brace yours, or maybe I am missing something and it may not be as important with the two part pier system you used.

I am not criticizing (looks great!), just curious.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: cmsilvay on June 23, 2010, 11:13:58 AM
When we built ours I was also concerned about bracing so instead of 6x we went with dry stacked 8" blocks filld with concrete.We had rebar running up the center for extra reinforcement.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 23, 2010, 11:51:56 AM
I was going to build my foundation like you did, using concrete above grade with posts in order to make leveling the beams easier but was concerned about getting good enough bracing with the short posts. I am wondering if you plan to brace yours, or maybe I am missing something and it may not be as important with the two part pier system you used.

I am not criticizing (looks great!), just curious.

dug i plan on bracing the beams, not sure with what yet.
i was going to have some steel triangles built at a fab shop, but more likely to use 2x6 cross brace.
i also think that using the continuous footings i poured will help a little. the way you braced yours look very strong, if you have any suggestions please let me know
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John Raabe on June 23, 2010, 01:48:10 PM
The foundation plans for the pier and beam foundations in my plans have details showing prefab steel brackets and 45º wood brackets bolted to the beams and the wood posts. There are a number of options depending on how tall the posts or piers are.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 23, 2010, 02:07:53 PM
Thanks John, I see what you are talking about on page 1.
I did use a simpson bracket (AC6), each bracket holds 10 nails and when they are all nailed up they hold the beam pretty tight.
If i can fit the lumber, i will use the method you call out.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 27, 2010, 05:30:34 PM
I checked my beams with the water level and found them not level with each other.
instead of shimming the low places, i notched the beams
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I used dugs method for finding square by building 2 boxes and moving them until square...Thanks dug!
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I wasn't able to get all the floor joist up before the storm
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mostly because i didn't have my helper, my wife
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 28, 2010, 03:35:17 PM
Anyone use pocket doors before? are they hard to install?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: handyman on June 28, 2010, 08:07:02 PM
Pocket doors aren"t hard to do.  Buy the kit and frame it into your new wall, then buy the door and hang it on the rolling track.
They are not convenient to use, and are mostly just left open.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on June 29, 2010, 04:58:43 AM
PEG posted something a while back about some higher grade pocket door hardware he had found.  I know it sounded a lot better to use in the long run.   
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 29, 2010, 05:20:25 AM
PEG wrote about them in this tread

http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=1243.msg44702#msg44702

The hardware is found here

http://www.johnsonhardware.com/pdindex.htm
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 29, 2010, 10:49:05 AM
more floor joist pics
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Simpson bracket
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on June 29, 2010, 11:24:45 AM
Looking good! I'm sure you must feel very satisfied seeing it growing away from the ground. I was right there not so long ago.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 29, 2010, 02:05:17 PM
Thanks dug, It does feel like an accomplishment!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 11, 2010, 12:49:47 PM
Rain has slowed down production but we did get a couple of visitors
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Started the floor sheathing
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Sheathing complete, future living room view
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shop view
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 12, 2010, 03:54:06 PM
The tarantula spider is on a 2x6
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on July 12, 2010, 04:19:36 PM
Quote
The tarantula spider is on a 2x6


The males are out in force here as well

Good work on the deck!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 12, 2010, 04:40:08 PM
Thank you dug, cant wait for your update!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 17, 2010, 06:48:57 PM
got the first wall up today, 100 degree temp sure didn't help good thing was dad came down to visit and laid out the framing
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living room wall followed closely
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 18, 2010, 05:01:58 PM
as of today dad and I Have put up 3 walls
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not bad for a short weekend
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on July 18, 2010, 06:06:42 PM
You guys are cranking along well!  Good to see.

One thing I noticed- The opening that looks about 6 ft. wide seems to have an awfully thin header. Maybe it's just the photo, but you may want to check the sizing if you haven't already.



Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 18, 2010, 06:17:08 PM
Thanks dug, the header is 3 2x6s nailed together. I will check the span table, good catch dug!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 24, 2010, 03:09:06 PM
Got the last exterior wall up today
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Also the lateral braces
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close up of the braces
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on July 24, 2010, 03:45:34 PM
its official you did a very good job looks like you worked very hard today and this week,.,.can"t wait for the side plywood,.,.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on July 24, 2010, 05:57:11 PM
Looks like you are making progress  :) Don't forget the wind blows from the other way too, brace back under it  ;)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 25, 2010, 04:27:07 AM
thanks Don_P I will!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 28, 2010, 05:56:40 PM
Latest  visitor (forgot to close the gate)
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started the loft joist
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lateral braces the short direction are sandwiched 5' 2x6s
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trusses were delivered
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on July 29, 2010, 01:54:59 AM
well looking very good. i know it was hard to but on the 20 footers., i see you have grown horns,., its official you are looking like your mom,.,.lol,.
please send more pics when you have them,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on July 29, 2010, 09:07:43 AM
Nice looking trusses, that takes care of the horizontal spread problem we've talked about with high ties and stick frame rafters. Looks like you got dropped gables to make the overhang framing work better.

The lateral braces you built are good for preventing the girder from rolling, I would add framing angles between brace and girder to lock them in place from sliding. The posts themselves are still unbraced in that direction to my way of thinking though.

Looking at the loft framing (this is not a single story house) I'm not seeing a let in ledger to support the joists. You are supposed to set the joists on something rather than hanging on nails there. A stud nailed up alongside each existing stud, under each joist...or for that matter 2x4's even a 2x2 stood up under each joist would take care of that support instead of the let in ledger.

There was the day I got to the job and the house was full of goats and their calling cards, his longhorns had luckily stopped at the ramp. I still wonder if they would have punched through the subfloor :o
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 29, 2010, 10:03:11 AM
Thanks Don_P, the loft was a later Idea.
I am putting 2x4 studs under the 2x12s for support, and the trusses are dropped gables.
Also I will put in a 2x6 in the space of the lateral supports!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 31, 2010, 05:38:08 PM
Got the majority of the sheathing on today with the help of my brother in law Rob
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on July 31, 2010, 05:45:43 PM
wow very impressed todd,. i guess you can move in tommorrow,.,. it looks great ,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 31, 2010, 05:50:34 PM
Thanks DAD
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on August 01, 2010, 04:35:30 AM
son when do you start on the trusses? or are you going to finish the plywood sides,.,.then put on the upstairs floor,. man you got things to do,..looks like your getting there,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 01, 2010, 09:50:48 AM
Trusses are going up today...pics soon to come ;)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on August 01, 2010, 11:45:26 AM
wonderfulness,.,.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on August 01, 2010, 01:25:46 PM
Making great progress!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 01, 2010, 02:49:47 PM
Thanks Sassy,
we finished doubling the top plate today, here is Robby the wall walker!
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the heat slowed us down today (110 degrees) but we got one gable and one scissor truss.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on August 01, 2010, 04:59:10 PM
very well done,. i know its hot,. but it looks like you are doing great,. the help you have was needed i could tell,.dad  [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 01, 2010, 06:26:58 PM
110 degrees.... you are motivated - good job.  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 01, 2010, 06:53:53 PM
110 degrees.... you are motivated - good job.  :)
Thanks glenn
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 07, 2010, 03:49:41 PM
not finished but did get a couple more trusses up
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on August 07, 2010, 05:09:12 PM
i see you got a man basket great job son,. looking very nice ,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 08, 2010, 03:01:54 PM
finished putting the trusses up today with my friend Thai
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on August 08, 2010, 03:24:39 PM
finished putting the trusses up today with my friend Thai
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you did very well today,. you and thai., the heat is building but you  will be fine,. did you deside how your putting your roof on? i am sure you will figure that out to ., keep sending the pics,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on August 08, 2010, 05:30:45 PM
At first light tomorrow go out and nail some diagonal 2x4's across the tops of the trusses from wall plate to ridge, at least one on each side at each end, 4 total minimum before a gust picks up  ;) Put a nail into each truss you cross, leave enough head up that you can pull them easily later. I've seen the whole stack tip over in the wind if you get a storm before it has ply on it.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 09, 2010, 03:43:20 AM
Thank You Don_P I will
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 13, 2010, 05:30:23 PM
Are you using a particular floor plan  ???
Irene
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: considerations on August 13, 2010, 06:01:31 PM
Really fun to watch, thanks for the pics!....I don't think I would do very well in that heat....probably spend the day in the cattle's water trough.  I could supervise the work from there, right?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 13, 2010, 06:18:21 PM
Are you using a particular floor plan  ???
Irene
I'm using John's 20x30 single story plans
Really fun to watch, thanks for the pics!....I don't think I would do very well in that heat....probably spend the day in the cattle's water trough.  I could supervise the work from there, right?
Thanks, I guess its better than rain until its dried in!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 15, 2010, 02:54:21 PM
we started sheathing the trusses (man a 12/12 pitch is steep)
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got one side almost done
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on August 16, 2010, 01:49:30 AM
wow now that looks great,. i see you got a noose in one picture who is that for,.,. everytime i see someone working i look to see where you are,.,.lolgreat job ,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on August 16, 2010, 04:22:23 AM
Excellent progress. Looks like you'll be done before me and I had at least a 6 month head start!

That bucket looks like it was a big help, and how tall is that giant stepladder?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John Raabe on August 16, 2010, 04:42:41 AM
Nice work. Those scissor trusses open the place up and provide a lot of space. Did you go to a 10' sidewall? Looks like it allowed you a loft as well. I like your modifications.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 16, 2010, 05:34:24 AM
Excellent progress. Looks like you'll be done before me and I had at least a 6 month head start!

That bucket looks like it was a big help, and how tall is that giant stepladder?
the bucket has lifted most the trusses and the plywood for the roof!
the ladder is set at 18' right now but will go up to 22' i think.
Nice work. Those scissor trusses open the place up and provide a lot of space. Did you go to a 10' sidewall? Looks like it allowed you a loft as well. I like your modifications.
yes John the side walls are 10' the trusses are 12/12,the ceiling height is ~18' from the floor. Im going to use the living room closet in your plans for the stairway
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 16, 2010, 02:39:24 PM
wow now that looks great,. i see you got a noose in one picture who is that for,.,. everytime i see someone working i look to see where you are,.,.lolgreat job ,.,.dad



LOL Dad, Someone has to take the pictures! c*
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 22, 2010, 02:07:06 PM
sheathing for roof mostly complete
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 29, 2010, 12:47:58 PM
Got one gable end framed for the 5x5 window
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on August 29, 2010, 12:56:11 PM
great pictures you are doing wonderful,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 30, 2010, 05:33:19 AM
Wow!!! I like that window!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 06, 2010, 01:43:56 PM
roof felt complete,almost wrapped too
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 12, 2010, 03:59:34 PM
Installed 3 windows today

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 18, 2010, 03:22:37 PM
started the metal roof today.
got 1 piece on but its a start

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at this rate it should only take 22 Days...lol
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 18, 2010, 05:04:38 PM
Hang in there astidham it will go faster as soon as you get the hang of it.  It is always better to start slow and get everything right and the rest will hold true until you get to the other end.  BTW did you allow any overhang on the side. Picture might be a little decieving.  I usually leave at least 1- 1&1/2 inch (width of the rib)then slide the rake trim piece under the lip of the rib on the outside piece.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 18, 2010, 05:47:16 PM
Thanks Redover, no i didn't leave an overhang i got rake trim that goes over instead of under on the gable ends unless i am wrong  ???
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: archimedes on September 19, 2010, 05:08:13 AM
Wow, you're really moving along fast. 

Did those trusses allow you to forego rafter ties?   Or are you in a no permitting area so it doesn't matter?

Looks great though.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 19, 2010, 07:13:38 AM
Wow, you're really moving along fast. 

Did those trusses allow you to forego rafter ties?   Or are you in a no permitting area so it doesn't matter?

Looks great though.
The trusses are engineered so no ties are needed, but you lose ceiling height in return ~20"
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beargins on September 19, 2010, 08:57:32 AM
Hey astidham I'm in Oklahoma too, do you know how to find cheap land within a 1 hour radius of Oklahoma City? I'd like to build a house for my wife. I would have messaged you, but this is my first post so I guess its disabled.

Thank you
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 19, 2010, 03:32:40 PM
Hey astidham I'm in Oklahoma too, do you know how to find cheap land within a 1 hour radius of Oklahoma City? I'd like to build a house for my wife. I would have messaged you, but this is my first post so I guess its disabled.

Thank you
I'm not to sure of cheap land in that area I live in north east ok.
Craigslist might have something
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 22, 2010, 05:08:51 PM
installed more windows today
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hope to finish the roof this weekend
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on September 23, 2010, 01:13:13 PM
installed more windows today
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hope to finish the roof this weekend
now that is very nice,. doing a great job,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 25, 2010, 03:18:22 PM
all windows are in as of today!!
the 5x5 diamond window was the hardest to install because of being heavy and large
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: freezengirl on September 25, 2010, 08:52:36 PM
Your project is looking really sharp! My husband and I ordered the same plan, all of your pictures are very helpful for visualizing ideas for our own project. You sure must feel good looking at your lovely family, all of you working togather for your dream.  Good job :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 26, 2010, 04:54:11 AM
Thank you freezengirl, its been very rewarding
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on September 26, 2010, 06:46:11 AM
all windows are in as of today!!
the 5x5 diamond window was the hardest to install because of being heavy and large
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now were talking very impressed lots of work but look at the results,.,.. :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 26, 2010, 02:34:24 PM
put on some more metal on the roof today.
my body gave out on me before the sun did....lol

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on September 26, 2010, 04:03:51 PM
put on some more metal on the roof today.
my body gave out on me before the sun did....lol

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i am confused i thought you were making a barn? oh well that will do ,.,.DAD
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mogie01 on September 27, 2010, 07:24:12 AM
Place is looking great!!! :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 27, 2010, 07:26:32 AM
Thanks Mogie01
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on October 11, 2010, 09:42:25 AM
Great Build!  Ive been following this thread too.  Is this going to be your permanent residence?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 11, 2010, 10:00:55 AM
When its finished it will be our perminent residence.
 then we will start phase 2 adding an addition on, the same plans we have now (Johns 20x30) turned 180!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on October 11, 2010, 10:07:02 AM
so your over all foot print will be 20'x60"? also I would like to know what plans you have for finishing out the interior, as Im get closer to that point Im starting to think more about it like to get others input and ideas
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 11, 2010, 10:28:57 AM
I really have not set anything in stone yet on the "finished" interior, everytime I have made up my mind about something on this cabin someone will post an update changing my mind.....

as far as the footprint, it will be in a T shape, but only time will tell.
Also nathan, I am very impressed with your work!...good luck
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 16, 2010, 02:40:41 PM
1 side of the roof finally finished using the new "portable" scaffolding

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 17, 2010, 02:54:27 PM
Adrienne and I started the front side of the roof today, we are starting to get a routine down.
by the time we perfect it the roof will be finished.

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 17, 2010, 02:56:29 PM
Looks like you are making good progress without incident.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on October 17, 2010, 07:30:43 PM
the roof is looking great!  I understand what you say about " by the time we get it down i twill be done", I feel that way about almost everything Ive done on mine so far d*  If you have any tips about what has helped you along the process in roofing I would love to hear it as Im gearing up to tackle mine soon.  Your roof slope appears to be a 12/12 (same as mine), thats what I fear will be most challenging
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 18, 2010, 04:26:25 AM
the roof is looking great!  I understand what you say about " by the time we get it down i twill be done", I feel that way about almost everything Ive done on mine so far d*  If you have any tips about what has helped you along the process in roofing I would love to hear it as Im gearing up to tackle mine soon.  Your roof slope appears to be a 12/12 (same as mine), thats what I fear will be most challenging

The scaffolding has been the best tool so far, also we are putting a punch mark where the screws go on the ground.
I made a template sheet that I lay on the metal for the hole layout.

dug used climbing gear to lay his metal here;
http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=8038.100 (http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=8038.100)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 24, 2010, 04:56:04 PM
got a little more of the roof done this weekend.
I am getting close to finished, cant wait to pass this milestone.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on October 25, 2010, 12:33:19 AM
wow that looks great,. it will get there but it is hard  and if were easy i could do it lol great job,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 27, 2010, 09:49:38 AM
here is how we got the metal on the roof
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the rake trim ridge cap is all that's left
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views from the roof
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on October 27, 2010, 11:16:01 AM
 d* if you build it i will come,. and never leave,., very well done where is the door? i know you told me it cost you two in the bush,., but i believe if i was there it still won"t be done,., dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on October 27, 2010, 03:46:34 PM
I'll bet it feels pretty good having the roof (almost) done. Do you have the ridge cap on yet? if so you are probably hoping for a little rain!  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 27, 2010, 04:01:35 PM
not yet, hope to have it on real soon!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 07, 2010, 04:04:43 PM
put fascia trim and rake trim up on one side of the cabin today.
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also put the center ridge cap on
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what is the best tool to cut metal trim with?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 07, 2010, 04:43:35 PM
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 07, 2010, 04:43:54 PM
astidham for facia or light gauge I use a set of tin snips of the newer variety.  I think "Work Force" at Lowes.  For heavier up through Gauge 26 I use a air nibbler that I got from Harbor Freight.  They also make a set of sheers that attach to a cordless drill but I wasn't really sold on them once I seen how they worked,
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 08, 2010, 11:53:25 AM
other side fascia and rake trim installed, just the ridge cap left!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on November 08, 2010, 12:13:42 PM
wow son you did an awesome job on this roof and outside work,. i am very proud of you natalie said she was very impresses
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 08, 2010, 01:29:19 PM
Thanks Dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on November 08, 2010, 01:45:20 PM
Looking nice!

Are you going to build a deck off the area where the large door opening is?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 08, 2010, 01:52:23 PM
Looking nice!

Are you going to build a deck off the area where the large door opening is?
Yes dug, I am going to cover and deck the door side and the two sides opposite!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 09, 2010, 11:01:31 AM
Roof is Finished!!!!!
What a great feeling!
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The roof and my shop are both supposed to be rustic red  ??? somehow I just don't see it.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 09, 2010, 11:28:58 AM
Good job astidham.  Must feel good to have a waterproof roof.  Are you planning to get the siding material on, if so what did you decide on?  Or maybe you are now moving onto the inside. ;D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 09, 2010, 11:43:12 AM
Thanks Redoverfarm
T1-11 siding first, I plan on priming, painting then installing!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ScottA on November 09, 2010, 12:19:45 PM
Looking pretty nice.  :) Congratulations on the roof.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on November 09, 2010, 12:28:32 PM

T1-11 siding first, I plan on priming, painting then installing!

Painting or staining one side of plywood before installation may be a bad idea. Sometimes the same can be said for boards. When one side is moistened (paint/stain) and allowed to dry the result will be warped panels. You may be able to get it all laid flat and nailed down but it may make for added difficulty. Differential drying is what happens to sometimes make the plywood sheets come pre warped from the store/yard.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 09, 2010, 04:57:22 PM

T1-11 siding first, I plan on priming, painting then installing!

Painting or staining one side of plywood before installation may be a bad idea. Sometimes the same can be said for boards. When one side is moistened (paint/stain) and allowed to dry the result will be warped panels. You may be able to get it all laid flat and nailed down but it may make for added difficulty. Differential drying is what happens to sometimes make the plywood sheets come pre warped from the store/yard.
I should install first then paint MountainDon?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ScottA on November 09, 2010, 05:04:42 PM
I avoid T1-11 like the plague. I used it on an outbuilding a few years ago. It was very costly to paint (soaked up alot of paint). After only 4 years the bottom edge is seperating. It already needs to be repainted in those areas.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 09, 2010, 05:09:31 PM
I avoid T1-11 like the plague. I used it on an outbuilding a few years ago. It was very costly to paint (soaked up alot of paint). After only 4 years the bottom edge is seperating. It already needs to be repainted in those areas.
ScottA, thanks for the info, unfortunately I already bought 5/8 T&G plywood T1-11.
on the up-side i got it for $15.00 a sheet.
Do you think if I paint it a couple of years consecutive, it will last?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on November 09, 2010, 05:14:17 PM
Yes, install first.

How far above ground is the bottom of the sheet? Protect it against ground splash. Gutters help.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 09, 2010, 05:20:01 PM
Yes, install first.

How far above ground is the bottom of the sheet? Protect it against ground splash. Gutters help.
Minimum 2.5 feet
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ScottA on November 09, 2010, 06:21:23 PM
If you keep the spash off it may do better. I'd pay careful attention to sealing that bottom edge really well. Maybe put some expensive acrylic enamel on it before you paint.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Ndrmyr on November 10, 2010, 03:42:57 AM
Depending on the thickness of your T-111, you may be able to pick up some vinyl J-Channel that will cap the bottom edge.  I sheathed my place with 3/4" (yeah, I know!) and had some trim metal left over and had a guy put it in the brake and bend a J, 2" on the back and 1" on the front.  A narrow crown staple will hold it nicely and you can either nail it to the sill, or directly to the T-111.  I stapled it to the sill in a bed of silicone and kept the sheathing off the bottom about 3/8" of an inch. If I was capping T-111, I would use stainless staples.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on November 10, 2010, 06:06:12 AM
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cap the bottom edge.
??? not a good idea, IMO. Water will find its way into that and be more trouble than if left alone. Also do not rest the bottom edge of the sheet on anything. There should be a gap to prevent water from bridging and wicking up into the sheet. That's especially important if you have one sheet above the other on a wall. There are z-strips available that should be used in that case.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on November 10, 2010, 04:51:10 PM
I agree with that. I have pretty much the same opinion regarding paint in many applications. Finishes that form a film work great as long as the film is intact. when the film cracks or if water gets in behind the film it is a composting bag. a drop of water that gets behind a film is converted to several cubic feet of vapor that is trying to leave once it warms up. If it can't get out the moisture content of the siding rises. I prefer finishes like stains that repel liquid water but allow water vapor to get back out. I've got 25 year old T1-11 on a shed here that has been motor oiled twice I think (not that I'm suggesting that), still in good shape. I had always planned to just use that as a temporary sheathing and cover it with another siding later.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 10, 2010, 05:05:15 PM
I agree with that. I have pretty much the same opinion regarding paint in many applications. Finishes that form a film work great as long as the film is intact. when the film cracks or if water gets in behind the film it is a composting bag. a drop of water that gets behind a film is converted to several cubic feet of vapor that is trying to leave once it warms up. If it can't get out the moisture content of the siding rises. I prefer finishes like stains that repel liquid water but allow water vapor to get back out. I've got 25 year old T1-11 on a shed here that has been motor oiled twice I think (not that I'm suggesting that), still in good shape. I had always planned to just use that as a temporary sheathing and cover it with another siding later.
Don_P, who makes this type of stain and where could i get it?
how often would you think it would need re applied?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: jan nikolajsen on November 10, 2010, 05:26:37 PM
Used motor oil! Killer idea.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on November 10, 2010, 05:27:07 PM
There are a lot of choices but I'm not sure what the best would be. I used a solid color stain on my T1-11 sheathed tool shed and it is holding up well after 3+ years. It goes on like paint but as Don stated doesn't form a top film.

Like I said, lot's of options and some are probably better than others but I second the motion for stain over paint on the T1-11. The rough surface soaks up a lot so I diluted mine a bit, seemed to work well.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 10, 2010, 05:32:11 PM
There are a lot of choices but I'm not sure what the best would be. I used a solid color stain on my T1-11 sheathed tool shed and it is holding up well after 3+ years. It goes on like paint but as Don stated doesn't form a top film.

Like I said, lot's of options and some are probably better than others but I second the motion for stain over paint on the T1-11. The rough surface soaks up a lot so I diluted mine a bit, seemed to work well.
Thanks dug.
my wife and I want the look of wood but was afraid it may not hold up.
Is the stain also weather resistant?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on November 10, 2010, 05:45:11 PM
They are weather resistant. There are oil based and water based versions, most would say the oil based are better but I used a water based product on mine. I'm a real numbskull when it comes to finishes so maybe someone else can make a recommendation. There is also everything from clear to solid stains. A semi solid stain, for example, would show some grain but cover a bit more like paint. I think the solid tones are more UV resistant, as opposed to the clear ones.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 10, 2010, 06:50:09 PM
Thanks dug.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 11, 2010, 02:29:15 AM
I guess I am partial to "oil based" when it comes to stains.  I have found better penetration with oil into the woodgrain.  As long as you choose a good namebrand it should work fine.  Which ever you choose I would recommend spraying the stain and then back brushing to distribute it evenly.  I used Olympic Semi-transp siding stain on the cabin and it has weathered well.  T1-11 is a little more porous than planned lumber so anticipate using more stain to get the coverage.

http://www.lowes.com/pd_194622-86-79250A/01_0__?newSearch=true&catalogId=10051&productId=1056281&UserSearch=194622&Ntt=194622&N=0&langId=-1&y=16&x=41&storeId=10151&ddkey=http:SearchCatalog

Additionally if you were decided to add a porch and have exposed rafters/purlins the stain that I used also tinted the underside of the metal roofing to match the exposed wood.  You can see how it turned out here  http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=3613.msg61206#msg61206
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 11, 2010, 06:53:34 AM
Good Idea Redoverfarm, That looks great!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MushCreek on November 11, 2010, 12:51:57 PM
I've always wondered what would happen if you built a shallow trough, stood the T1-11 on end in the trough, and poured some wood preservative (or motor oil) in and let it soak up for a day or 3. It always seems to be the bottom edge that fails, so really soaking it in a preservative might help protect the most vulnerable area. I plan on building my barn with the stuff, so I need the best process. I'm going to go up about 5 courses of block, then conventional framing covered in T1-11. I'll let the sheathing hang over the edge of the block so it can dry easily.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on November 11, 2010, 01:47:55 PM
It would would prevent problems with insects and fungi. What is the main problem though? Scott described de-lamination and preservative won't help that, will it? De-lamination as I've seen it is because of too much moisture or inferior gluing.  ???
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: muldoon on November 12, 2010, 06:49:59 AM
I have t1-11 on my house.  The house was built in 76, and some sections of the t1-11 are around 15-20 years.  I have replaced a few sides of the house.  Here is what I have learned about it.

Most deterioration comes at the bottoms.  Water splashes on the ground and gets on it.  Or the edge is too low and wicks water from the concrete.  The point being the lower edges stay wet and the upper section stays dry.  After about 2 years of this it delaminates on the bottom.  Then it just starts to rot. 

The next common trouble I have is on my west side, I have 10' of brick wall, and the t1-11 sheathes the gable end of the roof, so its 10 feet up.  Problem there is the sun (uv light).  Over the years of wet dry shrink swell, crack etc, this section has also delaminated at the bottom edges.  It's not moisture but the act of the wood swelling and shrinking that has runined it.  The other side has a nearly identical setup but faces east and has a large oak tree that shades it.  It has held up fantastically.

So I would not sheath in t1-11 if I could avoid it.  If I had to, I would find another material to finish the bottom 2-3 feet - brick up, stone, etc.  I would try to have nice roofline overhangs with wide soffits to shield water away, and I would keep a close eye on sides seeing alot of sun.  For finish, a few coats of quality primer on all edges before a quality exterior paint.  In my experience the stains look better but dont hold up near as well as good paint on top of good primer. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 20, 2010, 04:05:13 PM
Im a currently working on a 2" bump-out to break the contrast from the future T1-11 siding install.
we are thinking about stucco for this lower section.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on November 20, 2010, 05:34:33 PM
It looks like you need to slit the housewrap and tuck a new layer of some kind of weather resistive barrier under the slit and then down over the new bumpout. Right now any leaks in the upper portion are directed behind the lower section.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 20, 2010, 05:38:59 PM
Thanks Don_P that is what i have in mind, I havnt completed both sides yet and I am looking for the best thing to wrap for stucco.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on November 21, 2010, 06:34:38 AM
wow that looks awesome very well done son,. it will help in the long run ,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on November 21, 2010, 08:19:58 AM
That will look nice and definitely add extra life to the siding.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MarkyMark on November 21, 2010, 10:29:07 AM
Everything looks great. Congratulations! Do you have any idea on your costs so far? I'm thinking about doing a 20X30
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 21, 2010, 01:39:09 PM
Thank You all!
Everything looks great. Congratulations! Do you have any idea on your costs so far? I'm thinking about doing a 20X30
Not sure exactly how much but ~ 14,000 not including the front patio door or t1-11
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 21, 2010, 01:59:01 PM
my wife is set on stucco for the blue section of the cabin, if I cover this synthetic felt with tar paper or stucco wrap, will the synthetic felt cause problems for the stucco? moisture issues or anything?
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 26, 2010, 04:01:35 PM
got the patio door mostly installed
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will post better pics tomorrow
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 27, 2010, 02:51:47 PM
door install complete, the interior is unfinished so every touch leaves a mark.
the door is an Anderson 4' door.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 27, 2010, 03:09:58 PM
Not real sure if someone has touched on the subject of the bump out lower portion of exterior wall as it pertains to weatherproofing.  I thought I might suggest that you make a weather proof transition at that point.  Either use a piece of "ice guard" or "flashing"  ( broke or bent to accommidate the angle) tucked under the upper housewrap and allowed to extend over the bump out portion.  The way it appears now it will allow moisture to enter between the wall and the bump out and could lead to framing rot of the bump out material.  Nice job overall.  What is your choice of color on the exterior ?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on November 27, 2010, 03:41:16 PM
when do we move in? i can burn the inside walls and put on satellite ,.just punch a hole in your roof and add screw nails might leak alittle but hay we will live in it till that happens,.,.greet job.,,. dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 27, 2010, 10:24:43 PM
Thanks all,
Redoverfarm, not real sure on color for the exterior yet, the lower 2 feet will be stucco though.
the top of the bump out has a 10 degree angle down with 30# synthetic felt tucked under the house wrap ~2".
I plan on putting a 2nd layer on, 15# tar paper tucked under the house wrap.
also I would like to put a cedar 1x4" cap on the top of the bump out, I think putting a flashing extending above the bump out is a great Idea!
Thank You!
 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 28, 2010, 12:42:17 PM
final part of the bump out is finished less the flashing
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the house wrap overlaps the felt
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on November 28, 2010, 12:48:24 PM
Excellent son ,. you did a great job,. are you going to extend something above the door to drop the rain further away from the door or have big gutters?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 28, 2010, 12:56:17 PM
Excellent son ,. you did a great job,. are you going to extend something above the door to drop the rain further away from the door or have big gutters?
when its all said and done we will have the wrap around porch!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 28, 2010, 01:16:40 PM
the house from the main road, hard to see!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 10, 2011, 01:08:05 PM
If we get a little sunshine here soon, I am going to start the trim and siding.
originaly I was going to use T1-11 siding, I bought the T1-11 then sold it and now I will use a 2x6 log siding for the entire cabin.
For the trim I will use 2x6 spf, MountainDon said a neighbor used 2x6 trim for his place and it looked good.

Any suggestions for type of nail? ring shank? screw nail?
I will be using my nail gun.

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on January 10, 2011, 02:29:31 PM
I do like ring shank or spiral for things I don't want to come apart easily. I used galvanized ring shank for much of the Hardie Plank siding on ours. They have much greater pull out resistance than common nails.

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 10, 2011, 02:55:20 PM
I do like ring shank or spiral for things I don't want to come apart easily. I used galvanized ring shank for much of the Hardie Plank siding on ours. They have much greater pull out resistance than common nails.


Thanks MountainDon, did you use a coil nailer or a inline?
A buddy of mine said he would loan me a coil nailer, not sure if thats better.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on January 10, 2011, 04:49:27 PM
I have never used a coil nailer. As long as it will shoot the nail size and type you want to use I don't see any reason it would not work I doubt it would be better or worse.

I have noticed that my experience seems to be better using the manufacturer's own nails compared to generic. By better I mean misfeeds or jams. They never happen with either of my Senco's when run on Senco nails and the Bostitch framing nailer is just about as bulletproof on Bostitch nails. . .  I don't know if that is typical or not.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 24, 2011, 04:06:33 PM
Yet another plan change on the siding.
I ordered metal today, same as my roof for the bottom 2' bumpout.
Its hard to beat the price per square foot on metal, and the speedy coverage that it offers.
it will act as a waterproof barrier on the bottom, and break the contrast with my log siding.
its is supposed to be here friday!
Can't wait!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on January 24, 2011, 04:13:45 PM
i bet it will look fantastic with the log and metal and you are right,.water barrier,. can not wait till i can move in and sponge off you and ada lol dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 29, 2011, 04:03:19 PM
I started my siding on the bump-out today, managed to put up about 50 linear feet with the motivation of my girls
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 29, 2011, 08:21:38 PM
not really a flat spot on the property

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on January 29, 2011, 09:06:40 PM
Looks great!  I like how you've done that  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 29, 2011, 09:14:18 PM
Thanks Sassy,
the metal on the lower was an idea i got from Jan Nikolajsen's small house in moab.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on January 30, 2011, 12:35:35 PM
that will work perfectly to keep water rot from that part are you going under your floor wood with siding? dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: duncanshannon on February 04, 2011, 09:37:08 PM
nice work!  thanks for posting all the pics.  [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 05, 2011, 08:57:54 AM
nice work!  thanks for posting all the pics.  [cool]

Thanks for reading!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John Raabe on February 05, 2011, 09:09:00 AM
Nice job! I too like the bottom band. You could also work the window trim so it comes right down to the water table over the metal. Then there is another opportunity on the trim out to run a band around the house over the window tops. This could break the siding pattern, provide for color contrast and allow something else on the gable ends. Perhaps horizontal bevel siding on the mid section and sidewall shingles on the gables.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 05, 2011, 09:48:23 AM
Nice job! I too like the bottom band. You could also work the window trim so it comes right down to the water table over the metal. Then there is another opportunity on the trim out to run a band around the house over the window tops. This could break the siding pattern, provide for color contrast and allow something else on the gable ends. Perhaps horizontal bevel siding on the mid section and sidewall shingles on the gables.
Thanks John,
I like the sidewall shingle Idea for the gables!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 12, 2011, 05:24:25 PM
got a short update,
finally put up a temporary gate. 16' tube gate and the electric co-op bid my power install up to my cabin.
it is a quarter of a mile to the nearest power available, plus we need the electric brought in ~120 feet on our property to reach.
we need ~8 poles installed. when they called me i prepared for the worst, but they said they will put it in FREE! WOW!
here are some pics of the gate and if you can see the pink flags, that is where some poles will be.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Texas Tornado on March 12, 2011, 06:24:04 PM
Can they put the lines underground?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 12, 2011, 07:17:13 PM
they can, but it is very expensive
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on March 13, 2011, 06:33:41 AM
when did you learn that skill of building fence? [cool] it looks great.,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 16, 2011, 01:42:58 PM
started assembling my window trim frames today, the trim is a 2x6 ripped in half, the lower trim is beveled so it don't hold water.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 16, 2011, 03:41:39 PM
astidham I built 8 windows from replacment windows for an addition on my house.   I used 3/4 stock and wrapped the exterior with metal and trimmed the inside of the exterior with vinyle quarter round. The interior was finished wood which was part of the 3/4 framing

You might consider breaking a piece of metal for a drip edge on the top of the windows to prevent water from entering and laying between the vinyle window and wood frame.   If you have any "grace" or ice guard left I woud be tempted to seal the top, sides and bottom (same as originally in proper order) where the wood meets the vinyle window.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 16, 2011, 04:51:20 PM
astidham I built 8 windows from replacment windows for an addition on my house.   I used 3/4 stock and wrapped the exterior with metal and trimmed the inside of the exterior with vinyle quarter round. The interior was finished wood which was part of the 3/4 framing

You might consider breaking a piece of metal for a drip edge on the top of the windows to prevent water from entering and laying between the vinyle window and wood frame.   If you have any "grace" or ice guard left I woud be tempted to seal the top, sides and bottom (same as originally in proper order) where the wood meets the vinyle window.
Thanks Redoverfarm, my wife will paint them before the final installation, and I do need to flash and seal them. they are ~3" from the sheathed wall out
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rdzone on March 17, 2011, 07:07:13 AM
One caution I would not seal the bottom of the wood window trim with graces.  The top and sides would be fine, but if water got between the window and the wood at the bottom the graces would keep the water in and not allow it to drain leading to rot. Just my opinion.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on March 17, 2011, 07:20:13 AM
Just my opinion.

And a good one. We do our best to keep the water out in the first place. However, it is cheap insurance to provide a way out in case our best efforts fail.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 17, 2011, 06:06:49 PM
Thanks all for your help, I don't have a lot of experience in that area
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 04, 2011, 01:17:28 PM
The electric company set all the power poles to my place today.
tomorrow they will come back and string the power wire!!
they will be stretching wire about 1/4 mile..
electric is the easy part though, water, a different story.
drilling a well is not an option due to well history in the area.
the water department price for line installation is more expensive then building the entire cabin, so i will be installing a cistern.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: duncanshannon on April 04, 2011, 01:26:45 PM
whats your cost going to be for the electricity?  In NW WI, its $4-6 depending on the state of your lot.  I'm about 1/4 mile from the nearest power source. Thinking solar might be really cool.

ooh, i want to learn more about cistern systems... what are your plans for that?   I like the idea of that too!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 04, 2011, 01:52:15 PM
whats your cost going to be for the electricity?  In NW WI, its $4-6 depending on the state of your lot.  I'm about 1/4 mile from the nearest power source. Thinking solar might be really cool.

ooh, i want to learn more about cistern systems... what are your plans for that?   I like the idea of that too!
the electric company charges 1200.00 a pole, each pole will stretch 300' of wire.
they charged us nothing because we removed all the trees for that 1/4 mile.
normally they will give you a couple of poles for free though.
on the cistern, we haven't ironed out all the details.   
I think we will use a 3000 gallon holding tank (above ground) and a well pump. a pressure vessel, and a 500 gallon tank to transport water to the cabin.
we had guttering put on our 30x50 shop for water catchment that will be used for the garden and animals. I would love to hear more ideas about cisterns if anyone has any....
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on April 04, 2011, 02:37:13 PM
In the house I used to live in I installed two cisterns at opposite corners to collect rain water. I used 4 ft. diameter steel culvert (purchased from a highway supply store) that we sunk about 6 inches deep into a concrete pad. I put the water outlet and overflow pipes under and up through the middle of the footing before we poured.

Easy and relatively cheap.



Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: archimedes on April 04, 2011, 03:09:37 PM
They ran an electrical wire 1/4 mile for free!  Wow,  that's a great deal.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 05, 2011, 03:12:56 PM
Thanks dug..
here are some power pole pics.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 06, 2011, 07:58:00 PM
After tweaking the plans a little bit, this is how we are going to lay out the cabin, not seen is the upstairs loft bedroom.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on April 07, 2011, 09:37:44 AM
Looks like a nice open layout but I am not understanding the stairs. Only 8 risers and it looks like it will be landing where there is no head room.  ???

Am I missing something?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 07, 2011, 09:48:21 AM
The stairs in the layout was the only one to choose from that looked like a ladder style stair.
the stairs will be a wider version of a library ladder with hand rails, it will be less steep, with more stair treads than the picture shows.
I'm not to sure how far from the south wall we will place the stairs, but my layout shows about 3' as a reference.
Thanks for the observation dug, I didn't take headroom into consideration.   back to the drawing board :D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 07, 2011, 03:46:29 PM
here is an updated version with a closet....
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on April 08, 2011, 08:47:26 AM
Looks nice, but I'd put the toilet where the sink is & sink where you have the toilet...  unless  ::)  as Glenn said, you want to sit there & watch people while they're eating  c*
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 11, 2011, 11:19:19 AM
have been working on the soffits, trying to get ready for siding.

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 14, 2011, 03:29:27 PM
I finished the soffit today, the weather held up long enough to get all the plywood up. the plywood will be a nailer for cedar.
I think i might buy cedar pickets to cover it with, since they don't cost so much.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mogie01 on April 14, 2011, 03:47:00 PM
Soffits look great!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: duncanshannon on April 14, 2011, 03:55:36 PM
 [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on April 15, 2011, 06:45:43 AM
coming right along! I bet your getting excited to start on the inside!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 16, 2011, 03:59:56 PM
today I removed a 30-50 window and replaced it with a 30-30 window bumped out 1'.
this window will be over the sink. My wife wanted a garden window so bumping out will leave a approximately 18"shelf for her plants.
the window should be installed tomorrow
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: duncanshannon on April 16, 2011, 04:04:29 PM
 [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 17, 2011, 04:36:32 PM
window is now installed!!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mogie01 on April 18, 2011, 07:54:08 AM
Great job on the window, your wife will love it! [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 19, 2011, 10:03:05 AM
Just about ready for siding
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on April 19, 2011, 01:43:50 PM
i noticed you used glass for your windows., and wood for your walls is that normal? it looks very nice son,. it is easier to change now then when the inside wall is finished., so have fun. Dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on April 19, 2011, 03:50:18 PM
Beginning to look like a home. Nice job!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beckhamk on April 21, 2011, 03:22:22 PM
What was the cost of your trusses?  Very nice and coming along nicely.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 21, 2011, 03:48:45 PM
the trusses cost around 1200.00 if i remember right, for the scissor trusses and the drop cable trusses
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beckhamk on April 23, 2011, 01:06:27 PM
astidham  - thanks for the info. just wanted to compare to the prices i was seeing.  Mine are inline.

BTW: I assume a 12/12 pitch on the outside and that the inside is 8/12?


Also are you planning to run any ties accross your open area at all to tie the walls together?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 23, 2011, 02:53:55 PM
astidham  - thanks for the info. just wanted to compare to the prices i was seeing.  Mine are inline.

BTW: I assume a 12/12 pitch on the outside and that the inside is 8/12?


Also are you planning to run any ties accross your open area at all to tie the walls together?
it is a 12/12 pitch.
how i understand it, If your trusses are engineered, collar ties are not necessary with a 10' or under side wall.
my side walls are 10' with the trusses i have our loft has a ceiling height at the peak ~9'
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beckhamk on April 23, 2011, 03:05:36 PM
Thanks for the info! Your truss mfg didnt say that the inside would be a 8/12?  just curious as i just contacted one place and they told me they can do a scissor truss 12/12 for hte outside but the inside would be 8/12.  I figure your inside is around the same.

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 23, 2011, 03:30:57 PM
Thanks for the info! Your truss mfg didnt say that the inside would be a 8/12?  just curious as i just contacted one place and they told me they can do a scissor truss 12/12 for hte outside but the inside would be 8/12.  I figure your inside is around the same.


i found my truss paperwork, it says 12/12 over 9/12 for 2x6 walls.
2' overhang. for johns 20x30 plan i needed 14 scissor trusses @ 74.20 each and 2 gable, drop chord trusses @ 91.20 each..
total before taxes was 1221.20
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 26, 2011, 10:27:24 AM
we started on the log siding today, 2x8 pine quarter log.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ScottA on April 26, 2011, 03:14:18 PM
Looking good. That's going to be a nice home.  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Osprey on April 26, 2011, 04:45:20 PM
Looking good!

I was looking at your kitchen layout. I played with the same idea of just having everything against one wall but it broke the countertop too much and also cut down on cabinet space available. I made the corner and placed the stove at the end wall. Gained a ton more storage space. My island is 5' with a 10" overhang for some counter stools.

I am still moving the island around trying different combinations as it gets heavier and heavier here are a couple photos of what I have done in my 20X30's kitchen. I still have the crown molding and lighting to do. I plan on doing an update soon.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X3JhyOIP740mWB3HEmV-rVN8dSoq00fqWpA1_X8wD9w?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zzvhoUkdx7SmapPou6rJ4lN8dSoq00fqWpA1_X8wD9w?feat=directlink

Having trouble posting photos >:(
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on April 26, 2011, 05:07:50 PM
That log sidings gonna look great with the red roof and skirt!  I can tell you are really taking your time and doing things right so A+ for that!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 26, 2011, 07:34:02 PM
Looking good. That's going to be a nice home.  :)
Thanks Scott
Looking good!

I was looking at your kitchen layout. I played with the same idea of just having everything against one wall but it broke the countertop too much and also cut down on cabinet space available. I made the corner and placed the stove at the end wall. Gained a ton more storage space. My island is 5' with a 10" overhang for some counter stools.

I am still moving the island around trying different combinations as it gets heavier and heavier here are a couple photos of what I have done in my 20X30's kitchen. I still have the crown molding and lighting to do. I plan on doing an update soon.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/X3JhyOIP740mWB3HEmV-rVN8dSoq00fqWpA1_X8wD9w?feat=directlink

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/zzvhoUkdx7SmapPou6rJ4lN8dSoq00fqWpA1_X8wD9w?feat=directlink

Having trouble posting photos >:(
That looks real nice Osprey
That log sidings gonna look great with the red roof and skirt!  I can tell you are really taking your time and doing things right so A+ for that!
Thank you nathan, another reason its taking so long is because I'm on the pay now live in it later plan ;D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 29, 2011, 10:18:31 AM
finished the metal on the bottom of the house
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mogie01 on April 29, 2011, 10:52:08 AM
Love it!!  Great job Astidham, can't wait to see more pictures of your siding.  We are also going to use log siding.   [cool]

Mo
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 29, 2011, 03:51:08 PM
Thanks Mo....
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on April 29, 2011, 04:14:43 PM
Can't remember if... or maybe how many times, I might have mentioned it. We screwed on alot of log siding from the backside. We nailed the sheathing well and put two 1-5/8" screws alongside the stud from the inside into the back of the log siding. Few exposed fasteners and it pulled the siding up tight and held it there... something we often had trouble with.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 29, 2011, 06:45:03 PM
Can't remember if... or maybe how many times, I might have mentioned it. We screwed on alot of log siding from the backside. We nailed the sheathing well and put two 1-5/8" screws alongside the stud from the inside into the back of the log siding. Few exposed fasteners and it pulled the siding up tight and held it there... something we often had trouble with.
Don_p, what a great idea!!!
Thank You!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John Raabe on April 30, 2011, 05:30:12 AM
Good suggestion Don!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 03, 2011, 01:49:00 PM
got the front of the house, less the bump-out window sided!!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on May 03, 2011, 02:18:16 PM
 ;D now that was great pictures,. looking great son.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on May 03, 2011, 03:12:45 PM
Excellent!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on May 03, 2011, 05:42:32 PM
Looking really great!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beckhamk on May 16, 2011, 04:28:23 PM
looking great.....  when you started with the siding - did you put any cocking between the ends of each t&g board? or did you cock it afterwards?  What are you planning to do with your gable end overhangs underneath?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: OlJarhead on May 16, 2011, 05:30:42 PM
I love that siding!  Always wonder if I could make it myself but think the cost in trees I'd have to cut down might be pretty crazy.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 17, 2011, 01:01:48 PM
looking great.....  when you started with the siding - did you put any cocking between the ends of each t&g board? or did you cock it afterwards?  What are you planning to do with your gable end overhangs underneath?
I will caulk and paint it all after its all up.
as for the gable, it will be log all the way to the soffit.
the soffit will be covered with cedar, 1x6 cedar pickets more than likely.

I love that siding!  Always wonder if I could make it myself but think the cost in trees I'd have to cut down might be pretty crazy.
 
I bought this from a local sawmill, I'm not too sure what they used to make it machine wise, but all the log is from local wood!
I would like to be able to saw all my interior wood like you are OlJarhead!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on May 17, 2011, 05:23:23 PM
Quote
I'm not too sure what they used to make it machine wise
A moulder, basically a 4 sided planer that can take knives that are either straight or ground to shape. Think of the shapes you've seen on router bits and imagine those profiles on planer knives. I ran one for a cabinet shop for a couple of years making frame stock for the cabinets and custom trim for the trade. Feed in a 2x8 and a piece of log siding comes out the other end. Or feed in a rough cut 1x and a piece of T&G panelling, or crown molding, or baseboard comes out the other end. And a whole pile of shavings goes up the chutes. At one time prize winning livestock at the state fair pooped on my shavings. I've got an old '28 Vonnegut (Kurt's grandad) here that is a 10,000 lb boat anchor if you know anyone that needs one.
This page has a good description and some examples. The cabinet shop had a SCM throughfeed machine back when that was a new concept, ours was the 7th one made. http://www.contactswwmachinery.com/listings.asp?type=Moulders&keyword=Used%20Moulders
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 29, 2011, 02:33:42 PM
as of today I have 2 sides of the house Log sided..
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 29, 2011, 04:02:39 PM
Looking good.  Make sure that when you get to the point of completion that you put something to preserve the siding. Insects love raw wood.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 31, 2011, 12:33:00 PM
Looking good.  Make sure that when you get to the point of completion that you put something to preserve the siding. Insects love raw wood.
Thanks Redoverfarm, we are going to prime and paint it a wood like color...
how long do you think it can stay raw?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 31, 2011, 04:54:03 PM
Thanks Redoverfarm, we are going to prime and paint it a wood like color...
how long do you think it can stay raw?

I would give it long enough to dry out some.  I would follow-up with a borate to treat the wood for insects and allow it to dry a little longer before putting any finish color. I think Don_P had a formula for the borate. Might I suggest staining rather than painting.  There are a multitude of colors available in both solid and semi-transparent finishes. BTW I used an oil based rather than water based. Paint IMO has a tendency not to last as long between maintenance periods and I think that using a oil based will seal the insect treatment into the wood better. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 31, 2011, 06:28:28 PM
Thanks Redoverfarm, I would like that recipe if at all possible.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on June 01, 2011, 01:52:50 AM
son it looks wonderful did john clime a ladder? i was just wondering,. but you did an awesome job.,.,.dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 01, 2011, 02:43:20 AM
Thanks Redoverfarm, I would like that recipe if at all possible.

Don has written several post on the subject.  I don't have the time now to go through them but if you search the forum for "Borate" by "Don_P" there are several that come up.  Might have to review them to see what is relevent.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on June 01, 2011, 08:53:13 AM
The siding looks great!  I'm sure you are very pleased it.  All the windows will be nice for your viewing enjoyment  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 01, 2011, 01:09:32 PM
The siding looks great!  I'm sure you are very pleased it.  All the windows will be nice for your viewing enjoyment  :)
Thanks Sassy, we are surprised how little light comes in, but love all the window.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Texas Tornado on June 01, 2011, 02:17:17 PM
Any new shots of the interior?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 01, 2011, 02:25:25 PM
Any new shots of the interior?
Not yet, nothing new inside.
I hope to get the interior framing started this weekend.
that is if i can finish the last bit of siding.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: oifmarine on June 01, 2011, 06:38:06 PM
Looks great!  The log siding really turned out great!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 03, 2011, 06:27:08 PM
Looks great!  The log siding really turned out great!
Thanks oifmarine,
this siding has taken a lot longer than I thought it would.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 13, 2011, 10:46:03 AM
finished siding the back of the cabin and framed the bathroom for the pocket door.
if anyone want to install one of these, I would like to suggest buying a better quality one than sold at HD.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 13, 2011, 11:38:36 AM
Yep I think "Johnson" is somewhat the leader in pocket door hardware.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on June 13, 2011, 03:47:18 PM
Johnson really let me down on this job. Hopefully their ears are burning. I sized everything for their better units that used to be readily available here. When I went to order the only thing available was their cheap knock down units. I had the building supply give them a call, they would only ship them in quantities of 40 units  ???. I took 7 of their lower quality because I was over a barrel but Mr Johnson, if you're listening, that was the last door you'll sell me unless you mend your ways!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mogie01 on June 13, 2011, 03:52:37 PM
We love your cabin Astidham, I agree with Redoverfarm, I think a nice natural colored stain would look fantastic on it.  Great work!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Danfish on June 14, 2011, 03:57:06 AM
Sorry to hear Johnson Hardware left you in the cold.  I have had nothing but excellent service, but then I only order on-line direct from Johnson.  They ship any quantity I want from one to a hundred.  Don't understand your issue with the "breakdown" package that comes with steel reinforced studs?  You can get their standard roller assembly or ball bearing assembly for 200 pound plus doors.  By far the best pocket and bifold door hardware on the market.  Pricing is about the same as that poor quality box store stuff!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 19, 2011, 05:43:10 PM
got the loft decked, a closet and a pantry framed this weekend! and also somehow managed to find the time to shoot myself in the arm with a stick nailer!!
lucky i was using slick nails, normally I use ring shanks.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on June 19, 2011, 06:22:22 PM
Ouch!
welcome to the club of "I done shot myself". That's gonna be sore tomorrow.
I did it once in mid argument with my wife. The only sympathy was "Don't bleed on the logs"  :D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 19, 2011, 06:38:47 PM
Ouch!
welcome to the club of "I done shot myself". That's gonna be sore tomorrow.
I did it once in mid argument with my wife. The only sympathy was "Don't bleed on the logs"  :D
lol, sounds like my wife.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on June 20, 2011, 03:45:37 AM
Hope the arm heals quickly. Luckily I've avoided that club so far!

Nice progress. I see your kids use the construction site as a playground just like mine do!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: archimedes on June 20, 2011, 05:16:55 AM
Ouch!

I nailed two fingers together on my left hand once.  Nail went in one side of the index finger,  out the other side, and then went in the middle finger.  Fun times.

Still love my nail gun though.

Place looks great.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: oifmarine on June 20, 2011, 10:43:38 AM
Just curious, how much was your siding per lf?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 20, 2011, 12:27:56 PM
Just curious, how much was your siding per lf?
It was .80 cents a foot.
it has ~7  1/4" coverage.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mogie01 on June 20, 2011, 03:43:28 PM
Wow, you're really moving along!  Great work Astidham :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 25, 2011, 04:49:04 PM
had a back hoe come in a dig trenches for electric Friday.
my friend Thai and I ran 2" conduit to the shop and to the cabin, hung breaker boxes in both, and pulled 4-O triplex ~150' to the cabin and ~ 150' to the shop! no more generator!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on June 26, 2011, 05:08:31 AM
thats wonderful  100 amps? 50? or 200.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 26, 2011, 02:06:39 PM
thats wonderful  100 amps? 50? or 200.
200 amp to the cabin and the shop
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 26, 2011, 02:48:08 PM
installed the spiral stairs today, and decked the top.
I will have to to figure out a way to trim out the cantilevered part of the landing.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 16, 2011, 11:22:17 AM
got the majority of the cabin wired over the past couple weeks.
still got plenty more to wire though... then we will start plumbing, something I dread because of lack of knowledge.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Native_NM on July 16, 2011, 11:38:58 AM
Your place is looking fantastic...great job!

Is your A/C unit in the window frame or did you frame it separate?  It looks like the window is up.  Just a thought - frame a rough opening for the A/C unit above the window, or to the side.  This allows the cool air to drop further, which will help with the temps.  It would be easy to do now, and you would end up with a tighter fit than the universal window mounts they use.  
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on July 16, 2011, 12:20:54 PM
Cool looking stairs.   :)

Just a note others may make use of, not a criticism.

If I am not mistaken the best order of events is...

HVAC ductwork, if any, first.
Then plumbing drain, waste, vent (DWV).
Then plumbing hot and cold supply lines.
Finally electrical wiring.

Reason: The electric lines are more flexible than the plumbing supply lines; the plumbing supply lines are more flexible than DWV (with PEX they are almost as flexible as electrical wire) and the HVAC are the least flexible of all. In most cases.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 16, 2011, 01:15:21 PM
Your place is looking fantastic...great job!

Is your A/C unit in the window frame or did you frame it separate?  It looks like the window is up.  Just a thought - frame a rough opening for the A/C unit above the window, or to the side.  This allows the cool air to drop further, which will help with the temps.  It would be easy to do now, and you would end up with a tighter fit than the universal window mounts they use.  
Thanks NM,
the AC is just sitting in the window.
the window it is sitting in is a future door to an addition. when we put on the addition we are putting in a central unit.
That definitely is a great idea though!!
Cool looking stairs.   :)

Just a note others may make use of, not a criticism.

If I am not mistaken the best order of events is...

HVAC ductwork, if any, first.
Then plumbing drain, waste, vent (DWV).
Then plumbing hot and cold supply lines.
Finally electrical wiring.

Reason: The electric lines are more flexible than the plumbing supply lines; the plumbing supply lines are more flexible than DWV (with PEX they are almost as flexible as electrical wire) and the HVAC are the least flexible of all. In most cases.

Thanks Don,
that is good planning. we are going to use PEX for the water supply.
The stairs are a craigslist find. they are one piece stairs, so not too fun to maneuver, but very sturdy!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: oifmarine on July 19, 2011, 04:58:28 AM
Looking good!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beckhamk on July 29, 2011, 01:33:20 PM
astidham - I have a few questions about your sisor trusses.... did you just nail them to the top plates or did you use a strongtie HTS20?   One last question about the sisor trusses - how much wiggle room did you have to work with when putting them on the top plates or are the tolerances so tight you have to be 100% spot on?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 29, 2011, 06:13:34 PM
astidham - I have a few questions about your sisor trusses.... did you just nail them to the top plates or did you use a strongtie HTS20?   One last question about the sisor trusses - how much wiggle room did you have to work with when putting them on the top plates or are the tolerances so tight you have to be 100% spot on?
I used 2x4 blocks as spacers, and toe nailed through the scissor truss into the block and top plate.
as fare as wiggle room, my trusses could be moved back and fourth across the top plates ~3".
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 31, 2011, 03:08:13 PM
Dad Grandpa and I installed most of the under house DWV this weekend.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beckhamk on August 02, 2011, 03:42:08 PM
Wow your stuff is really coming along!  BTW: on the boom lift - are you able to control that from the ground and in the bucket? and does the bucket tilt?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 02, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Wow your stuff is really coming along!  BTW: on the boom lift - are you able to control that from the ground and in the bucket? and does the bucket tilt?
Thanks beckhamk, and yes,yes, and yes
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on August 03, 2011, 07:31:30 AM
Looks great! This is the next step for me at my place, how long would you say that took you to install?  and have you installed all the vent pipe yet?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 03, 2011, 11:01:19 AM
Looks great! This is the next step for me at my place, how long would you say that took you to install?  and have you installed all the vent pipe yet?
Thanks Nathan, i have all the vents stubbed up only.
as far as time, we have about 12-15 hours including running to the parts house multiple times for things we didn't have like 22.5s and 45s.
the actual install with good planning, all the right parts, and no surprises would have been 6-8 hrs for the under house portion of the DWV including cutting the bottom plates.
when you figure what you need materials wise, get 2 times the amount of Ts, Ys, 45s, 90s, 22.5s, and couplings than you planned for.
another thing I forgot was strap to hang the pipe with.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ScottA on August 03, 2011, 01:15:34 PM
Plumbing looks OK except for the tee on it's back which is a no no. I'm assuming that it's a vent for a shower or tub? I still need to see the rest.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 03, 2011, 01:17:03 PM
Plumbing looks OK except for the tee on it's back which is a no no. I'm assuming that it's a vent for a shower or tub? I still need to see the rest.
it is a vent tee for the shower, Thank you for looking.
I will try to add more pics later.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 17, 2011, 09:14:27 AM
We found a Claw foot tub on craigslist yesterday, we bought it today.
Its a S.S.M co. not sure how old it is, but cast on the bottom has 3 blocks that say 4 9 18.
it is in pretty good shape!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on August 17, 2011, 09:40:25 AM
Nice tub...  CUTE KIDS  :)  Looks like they'll enjoy taking baths in that tub.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 26, 2011, 10:05:19 AM
installed some pex, not done yet.
but here is what i got.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 27, 2011, 01:11:11 PM
Ive been putting off framing the gable end, but I am close to starting the insulation so I finished the gable frame today
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on August 27, 2011, 02:00:16 PM
Your project seems to be moving along really well- congratulations!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 27, 2011, 02:36:31 PM
Thanks dug,
since you just recently finished your insulation, I got an estimate from a local company for R-19 in the exterior walls and R-30 in the ceiling slopes for $930.00 installed. Does that sound reasonable?
 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on August 27, 2011, 02:49:26 PM
Sounds really good! I paid a fair amount more than that just for material!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on August 27, 2011, 03:12:16 PM
One thing to consider- around here, most of the hired insulation work I see is very shoddy. It is almost always just laid over wiring and pipes and they never cut around boxes and such, leaving huge air voids everywhere. On a clean bay it takes almost no time to install a batt of insulation, but most of mine were not. Most of my labor time was spent cutting around stuff, splitting batts around wiring, and making sure every gap was filled.

You may want to ask them about that if it is of concern to you.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on August 27, 2011, 04:32:38 PM
astidham, did you ask them if they can do R21 in the walls? The R21 is becoming more readily available here where I am. My Lowe's now carries it in place of the R19. It has the advantage of remaining the rated R21, unlike R19 which when compressed to fit the 2x6 framed wall, becomes R18.

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 27, 2011, 06:17:08 PM
astidham, did you ask them if they can do R21 in the walls? The R21 is becoming more readily available here where I am. My Lowe's now carries it in place of the R19. It has the advantage of remaining the rated R21, unlike R19 which when compressed to fit the 2x6 framed wall, becomes R18.


I didn't know that Don.
I will ask before I get it installed. I hope they do have it.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 02, 2011, 05:15:25 PM
Insulation is going in Tuesday!!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 08, 2011, 10:43:14 AM
the insulation was installed on Tuesday.
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also the neighbor had turkey in their yard
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 03, 2011, 10:19:16 AM
I haven't got to much done lately.
I have been working on the ceiling. I'm putting 1x3 T&g v-groove pine up,and at 3" per run, it don't go up very fast.
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also, the biggest tree on my property got hit by lightening
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after this storm I noticed Ihad a broken window.   
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on November 03, 2011, 01:56:30 PM
now that looks hard but a very good job son.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: metolent on November 03, 2011, 02:10:39 PM
1x3?   Wow...  and I thought the 1x6 I did was rough    d*

It does look awesome though!!!   [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 03, 2011, 06:46:07 PM
now that looks hard but a very good job son.
1x3?   Wow...  and I thought the 1x6 I did was rough    d*

It does look awesome though!!!   [cool]

Thanks, I cant wait to get this part of it DONE!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 04, 2011, 01:44:52 PM
now that fall is coming on strong, I thought I would post a picture at the cabin of the trees
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 24, 2011, 03:30:55 PM
got a little more ceiling done today...... happy Thanksgiving all!

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on November 24, 2011, 07:02:08 PM
Thats going to look amazing when your finished!  Have you put thought onto what your wall finishes will be?  I am heading to my place tomorrow to try and complete the drywall.  Im really digging the look of the drywall contrasting my wood ceilings, Ill post pics prob sunday.....Ohhh and keep up the good work!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 25, 2011, 04:28:11 PM
Thats going to look amazing when your finished!  Have you put thought onto what your wall finishes will be?  I am heading to my place tomorrow to try and complete the drywall.  Im really digging the look of the drywall contrasting my wood ceilings, Ill post pics prob sunday.....Ohhh and keep up the good work!
Thanks Nathan,
we are going to put up drywall and do some pine on the walls..
I cant wait to see your photos of the drywall!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 27, 2011, 04:40:13 PM
we finished the ceiling today! all but running a piece of wood to trim the center of the ceiling 
sorry for the poor quality pictures, it was dark when they were taken
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 30, 2011, 11:23:02 AM
we finished the center trim of the ceiling today, we used 2x8 log siding.
I trimmed the lap edges off and screwed it to the ceiling..
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 30, 2011, 12:32:34 PM
For me it didn't make any difference trying to keep the courses running level and the same you still end up with a gap that has to be trimmed.  I just cut the angle of the pitch on both sides of my trim board to make to sit flush.  Looking good.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 30, 2011, 01:07:21 PM
For me it didn't make any difference trying to keep the courses running level and the same you still end up with a gap that has to be trimmed.  I just cut the angle of the pitch on both sides of my trim board to make to sit flush.  Looking good.
Thanks, I'm glad to be done with this part
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: EaglesSJ on November 30, 2011, 10:56:23 PM
Looks amazing. I know you are glad to be done with that ceiling! I just got the rafters all up on our addition today and Im already wishing I was done putting the pine up inside lol
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on December 01, 2011, 09:15:25 AM
Beautiful work on the ceiling!  Looks like it was quite a job...
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 01, 2011, 02:48:18 PM
Looks amazing. I know you are glad to be done with that ceiling! I just got the rafters all up on our addition today and Im already wishing I was done putting the pine up inside lol
Thanks Eagles the pine took way longer than I expected. Thats what I get for Price shopping...
Beautiful work on the ceiling!  Looks like it was quite a job...
Thanks Sassy.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 04, 2011, 07:28:44 PM
after seeing dugs post that showed a shelf opposite his loft, we decided we wanted to do something similar.
we used 2x6's to frame a 20" deep shelf that is the width of the cabin.
I will finish the shelf with the same 1x4 t&g used on the ceiling, nailed on the top with the v-groove facing down
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 04, 2011, 07:38:34 PM
If you wanted to add a little ambiance by the addition of of a couple can lights on the underside.  You have a electric wire closeby to tie into.  If it is a light and you want to control them seperately now is the time to tie into a recepticle  at floor level up to dimmer switch before the wall is covered.  Just a thought.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 04, 2011, 07:51:49 PM
If you wanted to add a little ambiance by the addition of of a couple can lights on the underside.  You have a electric wire closeby to tie into.  If it is a light and you want to control them seperately now is the time to tie into a recepticle  at floor level up to dimmer switch before the wall is covered.  Just a thought.
great Idea!
The box in the top left corner of the window is on a switch, maybe there is a way I can branch off that.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on December 05, 2011, 03:48:47 PM
awesome work i know that was hard,. but it looks so great,. Talk later dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 01, 2012, 04:06:30 PM
after trying my hand at drywall, I decided to use nothing but wood...lol
we covered the gable end in 1x4 T&G pine... same as ceiling.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 02, 2012, 01:11:45 PM
We built a small wall near the front door that will take the refrigerator somewhat out of view.
Ive got one side covered in T&G.
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 I like the way it gives a little privacy from the front door.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on January 02, 2012, 02:04:28 PM
Nice work!  Ill bet youll never want to see another t&g board again!......except what youve already done of coarse ;)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: jdhen on January 03, 2012, 05:32:21 AM
astidham, everything looks great!  Where did you get the t&g and can you give an idea as to how much it cost per sq ft?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 03, 2012, 09:48:15 AM
Nice work!  Ill bet youll never want to see another t&g board again!......except what youve already done of coarse ;)
Thanks Nathan, T&g installation did get tiresome fast, especially cutting around the diamond window .


astidham, everything looks great!  Where did you get the t&g and can you give an idea as to how much it cost per sq ft?
Thanks jdhen.
The T&G pine came from a local mill in Atoka Oklahoma.
the 1x4 was .20 cents a foot, but only has 3" coverage so ~.80 cents a square foot.
the mill gave me about 600 l/ft extra for waste or bad wood.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 08, 2012, 11:51:18 AM
I worked on building the loft railing wall this weekend, also leak tested my pex.
I had a valve leaking, so i plugged it, it held 70 psi so I can cover it up once i get the rest of the wood!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 15, 2012, 04:13:24 PM
finished the wall behind the fridge and the pantry side wall with T&G. the rest is plywood.
the plywood is for the cabinets.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on January 15, 2012, 10:28:22 PM
Looks really nice!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 16, 2012, 09:47:12 AM
Looks really nice!
Thanks Sassy,
now its time to take a whack at cabinet building... :o
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mogie01 on January 16, 2012, 01:50:49 PM
Thanks Sassy,
now its time to take a whack at cabinet building... :o

You should check out this website Astidham... 
http://ana-white.com/2012/01/plans/kitchen-cabinet-sink-base-36-full-overlay-face-frame

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: drainl on January 16, 2012, 03:18:51 PM
I'm hoping to tackle the kitchen cabinets as well and have been keeping a close eye on the Ana White plans as they come out.  She usually simplifies things and makes it much less intimidating!  Looking forward to seeing how you do yours astidham!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 16, 2012, 06:24:19 PM
You should check out this website Astidham... 
http://ana-white.com/2012/01/plans/kitchen-cabinet-sink-base-36-full-overlay-face-frame
Thanks mogie, Very helpful, this is what I have been looking for!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: beckhamk on January 17, 2012, 03:23:17 PM
What are you planning to use on the T&G poly or stain ???
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 22, 2012, 04:54:43 PM
I started the kitchen cabinets this weekend.
I used 3/4 AC for the carcass and 3/4 Austrian cypress for the frames.
the Austrian cypress is engineered hardwood that was left over from  a room I installed it in.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on January 23, 2012, 02:21:57 PM
Awesome work!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on January 23, 2012, 03:05:48 PM
now thats a great start son. looking good. Dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 23, 2012, 04:05:52 PM
a little more cabinet progress
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on January 23, 2012, 04:10:53 PM
you did an awesome job. On this i know why your wanting to do the  cabinets  your just like me great LOL great son Dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 23, 2012, 04:44:36 PM
Great start on the cabinets.  I find that the doors are the biggest chore.  Noticed you have a Hitachi compressor.  Any problems with it.  A little heavier than most portables I have had.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 23, 2012, 05:10:03 PM
Great start on the cabinets.  I find that the doors are the biggest chore.  Noticed you have a Hitachi compressor.  Any problems with it.  A little heavier than most portables I have had.
Thanks,
The Hitachi compressor has been a great compressor, as long as you don't have to move it ..
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rdzone on January 24, 2012, 11:35:51 AM
Austrian cypress never heard of it?  I have heard of Australian Cypress.   ???  Looks good so far whatever the species of wood. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 24, 2012, 02:02:32 PM
Austrian cypress never heard of it?  I have heard of Australian Cypress.   ???  Looks good so far whatever the species of wood.

Good catch rdzone!
Austrian Larch rather 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 31, 2012, 04:17:53 PM
got some more cabinets built and hung some 1x8 cedar channel siding inside.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 03, 2012, 11:46:59 AM
put up a little more cedar siding inside..
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 11, 2012, 01:26:15 PM
we picked out this granite for our counter-tops today.
we are anxiously waiting the quote...  :)

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on February 12, 2012, 11:47:17 AM
Beautiful!  My brother just put in granite counters similar to what you've picked out - they are gorgeous  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 13, 2012, 07:33:59 AM
Beautiful!  My brother just put in granite counters similar to what you've picked out - they are gorgeous  :)

Thanks Sassy, cant wait to see it installed!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 24, 2012, 11:37:55 AM
I started a cabinet door panel yesterday.
this is the first time i have really ever used a router.
I bought a Bosch router and table and ordered a Freud raised panel bit set.
the wood for the doors I'm using  is black walnut that was harvested from my buddy's back yard, milled and kiln dried.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rdzone on February 24, 2012, 12:18:27 PM
I love black walnut.  Are you planning using some type of oil finish?  The oil gives the walnut a nice rich finish.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 24, 2012, 01:32:50 PM
I love black walnut.  Are you planning using some type of oil finish?  The oil gives the walnut a nice rich finish.
i will be putting tongue oil on it, i will post pics when i get it in there...
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: nathan.principe on February 24, 2012, 02:18:59 PM
awesome work! doesnt get better then that :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rdzone on February 24, 2012, 02:23:00 PM
 [cool] I look forward to seeing them done.  Everything else looks great. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on February 24, 2012, 02:37:13 PM
awesome to the max Or great job son i am impressed  dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 29, 2012, 02:14:33 PM
got the granite installed today, only have 1 picture for now.
i will post more when the tin tile back-splash is installed.
the caulking in the picture is still wet, it will dry clear.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on February 29, 2012, 02:17:36 PM
That is looking very nice...
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on February 29, 2012, 02:21:21 PM
Very well done son.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: oifmarine on March 04, 2012, 07:56:08 AM
Looks awesome!!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 09, 2012, 07:27:44 AM
here are the cabinet door panels that I will router into raised panels once my new router table gets here.
my old one was retired this week, so I ordered a Freud stationary table.
the tall boards are the upper doors, and the short are the lower doors.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 12, 2012, 08:54:36 AM
here are the panels milled into raised panels, all but one anyway, I milled one on the wrong side so I have to glue up another.  d*
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on March 12, 2012, 11:02:51 AM
Very nice! 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rdzone on March 12, 2012, 11:38:38 AM
Look Great!

I love the look of walnut. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ajbremer on March 13, 2012, 01:55:58 AM
Wow, those panels look great!

Your a real meticulous guy, paying great attention to detail. Maybe one day, I'll try out a router too - right after I get a roof!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: OlJarhead on March 13, 2012, 04:22:25 AM
Sweet!  I need one of those tables!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on March 13, 2012, 07:51:58 AM
What are you using from a router motor on your table?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 13, 2012, 09:57:59 AM
What are you using from a router motor on your table?
currently I am using a friends bench dog stationary router table with a porter cable 3 1/4 hp router.
my personal router is a Bosch 2 1/4 router.
I built the first door in the picture with it.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dug on March 13, 2012, 03:26:13 PM
Those are some cool panels, very interesting wood! Nice job!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: oifmarine on March 18, 2012, 09:08:36 AM
Looks awesome.  Can't wait to see the cabinets and everything else finished!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 24, 2012, 04:48:04 AM
I got a new farm truck yesterday, a 1993 ford f450 with a 7.3 diesel.
since I will be hauling in water, I needed something with hauling capability.

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ajbremer on March 24, 2012, 05:36:36 AM
Wow, that's great!

My build truck is my little Festiva, your new truck could carry my Festiva and the wood I put in it! Oh well, some day
I'll graduate to a truck like yours.

Here's my work 'truck' with 10 pieces of 2 x 6 x 10 footers:

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 24, 2012, 05:52:44 AM
Wow, that's great!

My build truck is my little Festiva, your new truck could carry my Festiva and the wood I put in it! Oh well, some day
I'll graduate to a truck like yours.

Here's my work 'truck' with 10 pieces of 2 x 6 x 10 footers:

I like your truck to Al....   :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on March 24, 2012, 05:59:21 AM
Nice, astidham     [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on March 24, 2012, 06:21:11 AM
currently I am using a friends bench dog stationary router table with a porter cable 3 1/4 hp router.
my personal router is a Bosch 2 1/4 router.
I built the first door in the picture with it.

I put a dedicated three and a quarter Porter Cable in the router cabinet I built.   I did not buy the base because it is just to heavy and to much router.  I have got others for hand work.  The lift I used is a JessEm Mast-R-Lift II Router Lift With 9-1/4" x 11-3/4" Plate.  I used Kreg corners to mount the lift.  Those are a great product and I had it all leveled up and locked down in no time once I got past the instructions and salesman's advice.  With that motor and if you can get what you have it on locked down good and solid it is as good as most mills. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: duncanshannon on April 14, 2012, 05:19:54 PM
Wow, that's great!

My build truck is my little Festiva, your new truck could carry my Festiva and the wood I put in it! Oh well, some day
I'll graduate to a truck like yours.

Al... you are awesome! Your build thread is deff. one of my favorites right now.

@astidham - sweet truck!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: oifmarine on April 15, 2012, 04:49:19 PM
Way to improvise, adapt, and overcome using the Fiesta!!! :)

Now I don't feel so bad for stuffing my wife's minivan full of wood when I was finishing my basement!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 19, 2012, 11:53:50 AM
I put pre-finished hardwood flooring in the bathroom today.
my wife wants to paint the floor white, so we will be sanding and painting the floor real soon.
she got a great deal on the wood since it was a small lot .79 a square foot.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 09, 2012, 06:27:44 PM
I am scheduled to have my aerobic system installed at the end of next week  :)
another milestone to pass....
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 24, 2012, 06:35:36 PM
we now have a aerobic system installed at the cabin!
I also bought the holding tank for our hauled water cistern.
I have accomplished other tasks at the cabin, but I have not taken any pictures yet, but they are soon to follow.

here is the hole for the aerobic system.
he hit solid rock at 3 feet
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here is the aerobic tank, I was told it weighs 16,000 lbs

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this is the trench for pipe to the aerobic
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and here is my cistern tank.
we drove 1.5 hrs to get this thing, and 4 hrs back.
having this on the trailer was like pulling a parachute
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Mrdecatur217 on May 25, 2012, 01:07:47 PM
  ;D wonderful job son wow love the pictures of the babies Dad
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on May 26, 2012, 09:49:52 AM
 [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 10, 2012, 05:52:13 PM
this Friday we had a tornado shelter installed, or as my girls call it, their clubhouse.
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we also trenched a line from our water tank to the house, and I'm trying to learn a little about pumps and pressure tanks so we can have running water.
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another line we trenched was from our shop for a RV power supply.
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here is a picture of the wagon wheel lights that will be hanging over our dining table in the near future
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on June 11, 2012, 03:26:26 AM
Really like the shelter.  I'm at the top of a large hill in East TX.  I'm going to need one of those as well. 

I just got done trenching last weekend.  Your trencher looks brand new compaired to the old junk I rented.  HA!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 11, 2012, 05:44:25 AM
Really like the shelter.  I'm at the top of a large hill in East TX.  I'm going to need one of those as well. 

I just got done trenching last weekend.  Your trencher looks brand new compaired to the old junk I rented.  HA!

Thanks dablack,
the trencher is new, its the second time i have rented it thanks to the well pump company telling me the wrong information.
its a tough machine.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 24, 2012, 09:50:09 AM
Its been a while since my last post, we have finished most of the kitchen cabinets and tin back splash, and are waiting on drawers.
we started finishing the exterior, got the cistern installed, and have learned a lot about hauling water.
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a pic of the hauled water cistern.
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exterior house
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here is a new resident living at my barn
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That is all for now!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on September 25, 2012, 03:44:42 AM
Tons of progress in those pictures. 

I really like the cabinet doors.  Have you thought about buying some veneer sheets in the same species as the doors?  Then the boxes could match the doors.

As for the last pictures, I see one of those every time I'm up at the property.  I HATE THEM.  Looks like that one has it's young with it.  KILL THEM ALL!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 25, 2012, 05:53:03 AM
Tons of progress in those pictures. 

I really like the cabinet doors.  Have you thought about buying some veneer sheets in the same species as the doors?  Then the boxes could match the doors.

As for the last pictures, I see one of those every time I'm up at the property.  I HATE THEM.  Looks like that one has it's young with it.  KILL THEM ALL!
Thanks dablack,
Ive been stung twice by scorpions!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: drainl on September 25, 2012, 08:50:46 AM
I love the black walnut - such a beautiful wood.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 25, 2012, 03:32:13 PM
I love the black walnut - such a beautiful wood.
Thanks Drainl,
We love everything about walnut.
the look, feel, and the smell is wonderful
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 01, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
my Wife fixed up a pine door for the bathroom.
she added upholstery tacks and metal parts from an old belt.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 07, 2012, 11:38:50 AM
today I finished wiring a 50 amp RV outlet panel.
Yesterday my wife and I pulled the wire (3 #6s and 1 #10 ground) ~125'....if I had to do it over, I would have buried 1" instead of 3/4 PVC. it was no fun pulling...
We are very excited to have our first guest to camp out in their RV Thursday of this week!!!!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on October 09, 2012, 09:35:53 AM
Looks good.  That is one of the first things I did.  We put in one of the 30 amp ones and bought an old camper to stay in while we are up at the property.  The RV was a life saver in the summer heat. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 10, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
Looks good.  That is one of the first things I did.  We put in one of the 30 amp ones and bought an old camper to stay in while we are up at the property.  The RV was a life saver in the summer heat.
Thanks dablack,
I hope this RV setup gets used very often!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: sharbin on October 26, 2012, 11:32:58 AM
Nice place  :D

How do you intend to protect the cistern from freezing in winter? Or does it not get that cold?

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 28, 2012, 05:57:07 AM
Nice place  :D

How do you intend to protect the cistern from freezing in winter? Or does it not get that cold?
Thanks sharbin,
I will build a pole-barn style shed around it, mainly to protect the pressure tank from freezing.
with winter upon us, I need to get this thing built in a hurry.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: sharbin on November 20, 2012, 07:40:51 AM
were you able to finish "winterizing" you cistern? I will be doing that next year, so it would be interesting to know how did it go. Keep us posted ;D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 20, 2012, 09:21:57 PM
Sharbin,
I am working on it as we speak.
I did have the pump and pressure tank freeze on me already one time, but it did thaw out with no issues thankfully.
I will be adding some pictures and info soon!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 03, 2012, 03:17:25 PM
here is what I have been working on lately, a greenhouse pump house.
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I took the tank out, not to worried about it freezing.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 03, 2012, 04:26:38 PM
Got a glimpse of a cellar door set into what looks like a concrete bunker in the background of a couple pictures .  Is that a storm cellar?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 03, 2012, 04:45:38 PM
Got a glimpse of a cellar door set into what looks like a concrete bunker in the background of a couple pictures .  Is that a storm cellar?

Yes it is John, if you look at the top of page 17, it shows it being installed.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ajbremer on December 23, 2012, 04:31:50 AM
Your place is looking great! It's nice to have some time off now isn't it? Maybe we can hook up and check out each others place while we're off?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: phalynx on December 23, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
Yes it is John, if you look at the top of page 17, it shows it being installed.

If you don't mind sharing, what did the storm shelter cost and what was the cost to install?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 23, 2012, 10:38:28 AM
If you don't mind sharing, what did the storm shelter cost and what was the cost to install?

I don't mind at all 2500.00 installed tax and all.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 23, 2012, 10:44:48 AM
Your place is looking great! It's nice to have some time off now isn't it? Maybe we can hook up and check out each others place while we're off?
hey Al
I'm very happy our company gives us so many days off!
unfortunately we will be away for the holiday break.
I do however want to make some time to meet up in the near future.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 12, 2013, 06:45:50 AM
The Spray Foam insulation crew just got here this morning and have started spraying closed cell foam under the cabin floor!
I will add photos later. it will be nice to have floors that are room temperature.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 12, 2013, 08:06:35 AM
when the installer started spraying the foam, the floor temp was 58.2 degrees.
after he sprayed, the floor temp at the exact same spot was 69.8 degrees!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on January 12, 2013, 12:19:42 PM
WOW!  What a change.  So if you don't mind me asking.  How much a square foot and how thick is it?  Looks to be about an inch thick, so I'm thinking about $1/sqft.  Let me know if I'm low or high.  I need my upstairs and attic done. 

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 12, 2013, 12:49:39 PM
WOW!  What a change.  So if you don't mind me asking.  How much a square foot and how thick is it?  Looks to be about an inch thick, so I'm thinking about $1/sqft.  Let me know if I'm low or high.  I need my upstairs and attic done. 

thanks
Austin
Austin
I had 2" sprayed in (my joist are 2x12).
 they sprayed some areas a lot thicker than 2" by accident I'm sure.
the total was 1275.00
all my other estimates were 2400.00 or more for closed cell foam.
i can already tell a major difference!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on January 12, 2013, 05:09:20 PM
Ok, good.  That is about what I'm hearing down here as well.  $1275/600 sqft is $2.125 per sq ft, but you had two inches put on so that is still about $1 per sq ft and inch thick. 

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 28, 2013, 10:15:54 AM
The wife and I put ceiling tiles up under the loft.
the color is copper patina.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Sassy on February 02, 2013, 10:01:56 AM
Love the ceiling tiles!  Wanted to do that in our cabin in the master bath as we still have the undersides of the boat docks making up the roof/ceiling.  I finally settled on the old corrugated steel panels (lots of patina) we've used in other parts of the cabin on walls...  one of these days  d*
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 02, 2013, 10:44:49 AM
Love the ceiling tiles!  Wanted to do that in our cabin in the master bath as we still have the undersides of the boat docks making up the roof/ceiling.  I finally settled on the old corrugated steel panels (lots of patina) we've used in other parts of the cabin on walls...  one of these days  d*

Thanks Sassy,
we are going to finish the bathroom ceiling the same way, just a different color.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 15, 2013, 03:33:26 PM
Here is the new "unfinished" deck.
took me a week to get to this point.

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on March 18, 2013, 03:02:55 AM
Looks good. 

Whats that other building in house wrap in the back ground? 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 18, 2013, 05:18:49 AM
Looks good. 

Whats that other building in house wrap in the back ground? 

Austin

Hey Austin,
Its a greenhouse, unfortunately I put it in the wrong place and have to move it, so I just left it in house wrapped. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 14, 2013, 11:13:01 AM
after living in the cabin a little less than a year, I have decided to install a center support because of the excessive bounce.
I found a local company that makes a timber jack that requires you to drill a hole in the post, drop the threaded end into the hole, and screw it to the top of the lumber post. it has 5" of adjustment, and is rated at  15000lbs.
I need to move some plumbing before i can finish the total install, but ~ 15' is supported, and other than the sound of foot steps, there isn't a noticeable bounce!!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on April 14, 2013, 01:01:30 PM
Thanks for showing us that. not everyone is willing to talk about things that went wrong or things that did not turn out as hoped for or expected.  Thanks again.

Don
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 14, 2013, 02:06:29 PM
Thanks for showing us that. not everyone is willing to talk about things that went wrong or things that did not turn out as hoped for or expected.  Thanks again.

Don

Don, I will soon be building an addition 20x30 on to the house for bedrooms/laundry-room, and whatever else we can fit into it.
this time around I will have a more thoughtful and experienced approach.
with the current build, I never missed an opportunity to make a bad decision....lol
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on April 15, 2013, 03:16:25 AM
That right there is why we are building the "garage house" first.  We will start off living in it and then build the two story attached.  Once we are in the two story, the garage house can become the garage with bedrooms upstairs. 

Thanks for the update.  I'm sure those things would help a bunch of people. 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: OlJarhead on April 15, 2013, 08:28:39 AM
Can you post info on those jacks?  They look VERY handy!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 15, 2013, 12:27:47 PM
Can you post info on those jacks?  They look VERY handy!
Sure! here is the link.

http://ellisok.com/ellisok/ (http://ellisok.com/ellisok/)

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: OlJarhead on April 17, 2013, 09:39:55 AM
Thanks!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 17, 2013, 09:51:13 PM
Thanks!

No Problem.
these jacks are built very well, almost 10 lbs of metal in each one.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 19, 2013, 09:06:17 AM
Got theacasia flooring installed in the cabin... pictures will soon follow when i figure out this tablet im using.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 19, 2013, 09:48:23 AM
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 24, 2013, 07:56:05 AM
Had a storm move in last night.... it took my greenhouse for a ride. My daughter is standing where it was
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The weather forcaster said 70 mile an hour winds. I think it might have been a microburst. The bedliner in the picture was behind the greenhouse in the same place it sits now unmoved.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on July 24, 2013, 11:38:29 AM
Sorry to see that but at least you guys seem to be uninjured and well.  Things could be a lot worse.....
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 24, 2013, 12:37:38 PM
thanks rick,
we were lucky.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 21, 2013, 08:39:50 AM
Got a tree dozed and an area flattened out for the future addition
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Here are my 3 girls. I have some good helpers.
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This go around, I am going with a block foundation and pour a center footing .
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 21, 2013, 10:41:51 AM
Probably a smart move on your part not necessiarly because of the addition but I can foresee something falling in a windstorm.   8)  At least you will have firewood if you burn wood.  Nice looking youngsters.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 21, 2013, 02:26:56 PM
Thanks John.
the dozer had a hard time trying to dig out and push that tree over, i dont think the tree was ready to give up...lol
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ajbremer on August 22, 2013, 06:12:23 AM
Wow,

Great job on how you got that big tree out of the ground. That's how I should have removed my big trees, instead I cut them about 2 feet above the ground and pushed them over. One of those trees left a huge stump right in the middle of the driveway. I'll just have to sharpen the chain saw real good and get after it one day.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on August 22, 2013, 09:43:26 AM
If the stump is in the driveway the best solution is to remove it with big machinery or lots and lots of hand work. Over time stumps have a way of coming back to haunt you, IMO.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 22, 2013, 09:46:57 AM
Wow,

Great job on how you got that big tree out of the ground. That's how I should have removed my big trees, instead I cut them about 2 feet above the ground and pushed them over. One of those trees left a huge stump right in the middle of the driveway. I'll just have to sharpen the chain saw real good and get after it one day.

Al, I had stumps all over from clearing too. The dozer was a "time" cheap way to solve the problem.
MountainDon is right, they will come back to haunt you.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 22, 2013, 03:21:09 PM
This is what i had in mind for the addition to the cabin, what do you think?

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: kenhill on August 22, 2013, 03:54:55 PM
Do you mean to have a door from the closet to the bathroom?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 22, 2013, 04:33:11 PM
Do you mean to have a door from the closet to the bathroom?
yes, the closet will be a family closet/laundry room.
take a shower, and your clothes are right out the door.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: PHU on October 28, 2013, 12:39:45 PM
Asitham,

as of to date....what's your total expense on the cabin and everything else? 
Thanks!


PHU
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 28, 2013, 03:19:38 PM
Asitham,

as of to date....what's your total expense on the cabin and everything else? 
Thanks!


PHU
I dont have an exact quote, but right under 40, 000 including the aerobic system, which was 6000.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 11, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
Today we had footings dug and poured for our addition.
It will be a 20x40 addition on a slab.
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Not too sure when the slab will be poured,  it will be below freezing tye next 2 days
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 12, 2013, 04:23:00 PM
Here is todays slab progress
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Here is my harman accentra pellet stove, we got the opportunity to really test it today. It was 30 degrees this morning. We ended up turning the feed rate to its lowest setting, and finaly had to open the doors to cool down the cabin.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on November 13, 2013, 05:04:15 AM
Why the footers and then the slab?  Won't you have a cold joint between the two?  I don't know if there is anything wrong with that, I've just never seen it.  When I saw your footers, I thought you were going to build up from those with blocks and then pour a floating slab. 

The reason I'm interested is I want to have more slab poured later so I'm really watching how you do it. 

Are you doing all the work yourself with friends or is that a crew your have? 

Also, do you worry about the leather on that couch being that close to the stove?

thanks
Austin

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 13, 2013, 06:10:25 AM
Why the footers and then the slab?  Won't you have a cold joint between the two?  I don't know if there is anything wrong with that, I've just never seen it.  When I saw your footers, I thought you were going to build up from those with blocks and then pour a floating slab. 

The reason I'm interested is I want to have more slab poured later so I'm really watching how you do it. 

Are you doing all the work yourself with friends or is that a crew your have? 

Also, do you worry about the leather on that couch being that close to the stove?

thanks
Austin
Hey Austin,
I am Having the work done as far as the slab goes.
im not sure why the footings and slab are poured at different times, but that is the normal where I live.
the footing has a rock ledge, so maybe they have to pour them seperate?
as far as the couch, it is the distance (minimum) the stove manufacturer suggested for clearance, which does get warm to the touch... i will be moving it away from the stove.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on November 13, 2013, 07:14:43 AM
Lots of homes are built here the same way too; footings perimeter, then the slab after the plumbers do their rough in in the ground. Then the framing. Different builders do monoliths.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: hpinson on November 13, 2013, 09:16:24 AM
I have a question, not having done this before either.  When you hire a concrete truck, do they bring their own water, or are they dependent on a supply onsite. The reason I ask is because I have limited onsite water storage, very slow recharge of that, and only gravity feed from a 500 gallon tank sitting six feet above the build site, so very low pressure.

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on November 13, 2013, 09:39:32 AM
There are two ways concrete is 'batched' one sand, aggregate, cement and water are add to the truck and the truck mixes the concrete.  Or in some cases at the batch plant it is introduced into a mixer and then in to the truck.

The truck hauls a few hundred gallons of water to 'temper' the concrete when it gets to the sight.  Concrete contractors and finishers are a fickle lot.  Most the time when they tell the driver add five gallons it means add 20 gallons.  The water in theory is for that and for the purpose of washing up the chutes and the mixer inside once unloaded, not for wetting down the ground and not for washing the finishers pick up.  We always made sure we did have enough to wash up his bull float and have a five gallon bucket of water if he requested it.       

 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on November 13, 2013, 10:29:20 AM
The trucks I've seen here in NM all carry their own water and do not depend on any onsite water. When building in the city none of the lots have water available until after the building is up and inspected.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: hpinson on November 13, 2013, 10:42:07 AM
Thank you for that Rick and Don. I have actually been worrying about that quite a bit.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 13, 2013, 11:00:34 AM
Thank you for that Rick and Don. I have actually been worrying about that quite a bit.
Just as Rick and Don said, they have their own water, which im glad they do, since I haul all my water.
the concrete plant is just a couple miles from my house which is also nice since they ran out early on the footings, and had a truck at my place in under 30 minutes
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on November 14, 2013, 06:14:49 AM
Just as Rick and Don said, they have their own water, which im glad they do, since I haul all my water.
the concrete plant is just a couple miles from my house which is also nice since they ran out early on the footings, and had a truck at my place in under 30 minutes

This brings up a great topic and should be posted and reposted once in a while for those who purchase concrete from time to time.  That is hot mud or concrete that has been in transit or on the truck a long time.

Where we live it is a minimum of an hour and a half from the batch plant.  This coupled with 90 degree plus ambient temps - often times you do not have any time to spare once it is out of the truck.  On those days if you put your head down the charging chute of a mixer truck it is a lot like down south humidity and heat in there.  Adding lots of water really is a short time stop gap and only weakens the concrete.  One way around this is pouring early in the morning at first light when the temps have dropped as low as they will go.  Some locations offer ice or icing for a fee.  This is especially warranted when doing flat work.  Next have a big enough crew....  not me and my wife and two pre-teens tackling 18 yards of flat work.  Two of us poured out four trucks for the monster footings in our house and nothing sat very long and it was 90 degrees plus but we were done in when we were finished.     

Explain to the batch plant when ordering multiple trucks do not batch them one right after other.  I do not want them sitting here with already hot mud while I am finishing out the first truck and their mud getting older by the minute.  If pouring footings and walls this is not a important as flat work or slabs.  However now that so much is called for having your vertical rebar in and wired it takes longer to get footings screeded off and hit with a hand float.

Once upon a time we would actually wet set the verticals in to the footings so you did not have to work around all the rebar sticking up.  This is a no no now  n* at least around here per code so it is said.  I have never looked it up but it is a lot better if they are up off the ground for sure and wired.  Why pay all the money for rebar and concrete and have the rebar act as a conduit for rust and moisture weakening the concrete it is to strengthen and protect?

The place I drove for did what was called dry batching.  It was not dry and sort of risky for the truck if not done right.  They only let drivers that had been around a while haul dry batch.    When you went under the batch plant you turned you mixer on to load or charge.  Engine reved up and the batchman put in the all the water for the load when this was done he would signal you.  Then you just idled the mixer slowly and he then loaded the sand and aggregate then dumped in the cement right at the tail end and a little dump of sand for a plug.  You then stopped your mixer and drove to the job site a couple hours away.   If done right the sand and aggregate held the water at the low end of the truck mixer and the cement at the high end of the mixer and when you got to the job site you reved up you mixer and agitated the load.  If done right piece of cake and all were  ;D of wrong  >:(           
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 16, 2013, 04:24:29 PM
Slab is done!
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The slab is 20x40. 20x30 of it is garage and is curbed and slopes toward the garage door. The area above the garage is sleeping quarters and a bathroom. The remaining 10x20 is the entryway to the cabin, that also will have the stairway to above the garage if I can figure how to put it in there.
They cut stress lines every 10 feet the 40 foot direction, and one down the center.
$8800.00. For the slab $200. For termite pretreat.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 16, 2013, 05:12:13 PM
I need some ideas, the new slab for the addition has approximately a 5 inch gap from the sheathed wall on the cabin to the edge of the slab. When the slab was poured, it was lined up flush to the bumped out section around the lower section of the cabin that has metal on it.. I was thinking about framing a 2x8 wall against the gable end of the cabin , so I could fill the gap, and still have enough bottom plate to bolt down to the concrete. Also, should I remove all the siding from the end of the cabin? My plan was to remove all of it, but if there is no reason to remove it, i will leave it on.
Thanks,
Todd

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 16, 2013, 05:55:43 PM
Todd if you remove the siding your gap will increase by the thickness of the metal so you may be in the area to where you will not have anything left structurally to anchor your wall to (neighboring 7-1/2").  Hindsight being 20/20 you might have been better off to have removed the metal and poured your floor to the edge of your cabin sheeting.  If you have room to form up on the end an additional pour might be warranted.  You could place anchors in the pour to hold your new wall.  But if you don't remove the old siding and leave it on you will still need that area filled.  I can't really tell if you have room under the edge of your cabin to pour and erect a pony wall to match the exterior wall already in place.

  It also appears that the new slab is wider than your cabin so you will have to adjust your roofing to compensate there as well.  Just curious as to why you offset your slab to extend past the front (deck side)of the cabin and short on the back side? I take it that you will replace the window with a door on that end (ground floor or both). 

Well thats my first thoughts.  Let me sleep on it. Seems that is when solutions come to mind. ;D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 17, 2013, 03:16:23 AM
John, the slab is offset 4 feet from the cabin because plumbing and electric is shallow underground on the right side of the picture, and we thought the offset might give the finished build some character.
I haven't measured the gap that exist yet, but the ~ 5" would be to the plywood sheathing past the siding.
I was at work when the slab was poured, so I didn't notice the location of the edge of slab untill later. I wanted the slab flushed to the framed wall.
I think I might call the concrete guy, and see what it would cost to pour the difference.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 18, 2013, 06:42:06 AM
anyone have any thoughts?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: devildog on December 18, 2013, 05:35:43 PM
well, my first thought is to put a ledger board on existing structure at floor level taking into account floor sheathing and finish. And I would remove siding.Then frame a kneewall level with ledger (thiswould include  floor joist and sheathing thickness. The floor joist would sit on kneewall and attch to ledger making a shelf all the way across.
 At the ends would have to be almost like a built up beam to cantilever out flush with existing struccture to build walls on that attach to existing structure. of coarse it would need to be treated lumber since it would be so close to ground.

 Unfortunatly this would create a shelf look. your going to be building stairs anyway maybe it wouldnt look so bad.

 I would definetly call concrete guy first to extend it over flush. but this is the only way i could see doing it otherwise.

Im no expert and terrible at explaining things but just thought Id throw in my idea since noone else  has yet.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on December 18, 2013, 05:38:54 PM
I think I might call the concrete guy, and see what it would cost to pour the difference.

That's my vote.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 18, 2013, 07:05:27 PM
Thanks for your input, I was crawling around looking at the gaped area, and after further inspection, it looks like it might be closer to flush with the cabin than I thought.
On another note, my trusses came in today and the floor trusses that will span the garage are 20 long and 2 foot deep.
With an 8 foot stud wall and a 2 foot web truss, what is the prefered method of sheathing to connect the upper and lower floor? I planned on running the sheathing vertically.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on December 18, 2013, 07:11:37 PM
Both of our local real lumber yards carry 4x9 and 4x10 sheets of OSB. I used 4x9 to do our cabin 8 foot walls with overlap on the floor assembly.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 18, 2013, 07:44:35 PM
Thanks Don, would splitting the floor truss at the midpoint, or sheathing from the ground up to encompass the floor trusses be preferred or ?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on December 18, 2013, 07:54:19 PM
Hmmm. Well one thing to keep in mind is that code states that all edges of sheathing panels must be nailed.
"Wood structural panels,.... 3/8" - 1/2" .....     6d common (2" × 0.113") nail (subfloor wall)j .... every 6 inches along edges, 12" in the field....."  If the panel edges don't fall over something solid like a plate, joist or web member then you need to install blocking to nail to. So look at it in those terms and see what will work. The idea is to tie as much together as possible. Staggering the sheets up and down alternately can help in securing top stuff to bottom stuff. You may have to trim the length of sheets a bit, maybe not.  Vertically placed sheets also helps eliminate that edge nailing issue.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 18, 2013, 07:57:16 PM
Thanks Don.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 29, 2013, 06:11:21 PM
Thought I would post a cost sheet for the addition so far before the framing starts.
The addition is 20x40. 10x20 of that is the entryway the other 20x30 is a garage with a 20x30 2nd story for bedroom area and a bathroom and maybe a laundry area.
Slab 20x40 with rock ledge footings.             $8800.00
Studs, plywood sheathing roof and walls,
2nd floor deck sheathing.                                $2618.00
11 7/8 TJI 's for headers.                                $132.00
Wedge anchors for bottom plate.                   $16.00
Roof trusses (14 ) 8/12 storage.                     $1030.00
(1) drop chord 8/12 gable truss.                     $73.13
(1) 8/12 gable truss.                                         $73.13
(5) stubbed scissor truss.                               $481.51
(16) 20' floor truss 24" deep.                          $1040.00
Nails.                                                                   $ 167.00
Total.                                                                   $14,430.77

This cost does not include any stair lumber
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on December 30, 2013, 07:04:10 AM
thanks for the cost break down. 

Why the 2' deep floor trusses and no engineered I-joists?  I'm looking at some 16" deep engineered Ijoists that are 26' long and $55 each.  For a qty of 16, 20' long it should cost less than $700.

Just an idea.

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on December 30, 2013, 07:46:53 AM
thanks for the cost break down. 

Why the 2' deep floor trusses and no engineered I-joists?  I'm looking at some 16" deep engineered Ijoists that are 26' long and $55 each.  For a qty of 16, 20' long it should cost less than $700.

Just an idea.

Austin
Hey Austin,
I am putting my hvac in the joist was my main reasoning.
Also, I would need 23 ijoist, so the cost was closer to the same.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 09, 2014, 04:43:36 PM
I have somewhat of a dilemma,
When I had the slab poured, I had the garage walls curbed for a 12 foot wide garage door before researching what a door that size cost.. its quite a bit more expensive than a 8 foot door.
My question is, would it be better to have the concrete curb continued over for the 8 foot door, or would just framing in the 4 foot area be ok?

Thanks,
 Todd
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 09, 2014, 05:13:47 PM
Other than standard sizes special order doors are expensive.  If you didn't want to go this route then frame in 2' on each side to make the opening 8'.  If siding it will not be noticed except the inside and then it may be covered as well in the future.

Mine were special ordered and X 2 it added up but that is what I wanted. ;D 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 09, 2014, 05:30:05 PM
Other than standard sizes special order doors are expensive.  If you didn't want to go this route then frame in 2' on each side to make the opening 8'.  If siding it will not be noticed except the inside and then it may be covered as well in the future.

Mine were special ordered and X 2 it added up but that is what I wanted. ;D
I didnt even think about the siding John.
Thanks... i will probably have my concrete guy come out an extend the curbs. He lives about a mile from me.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 09, 2014, 05:43:25 PM
I didnt even think about the siding John.
Thanks... i will probably have my concrete guy come out an extend the curbs. He lives about a mile from me.

I had to go back several pictures to see the curb that you were talking about.  Just looking it did not appear.  What would be wrong with just lengthing your studs in that particular area to compensate for the difference from the top of the curb.  I would use Pressure treated sill and studs if there is going to be water lying against it.  There is things you can do to make it water proof that would not require it to be poured.  Just a thought.

Mine was a two car.  I set drains in the center of each bay.  Best thing I did.  Here when the snow and ice melt off the car it is drawn to the center of the bay underneath the car and you don't step or track through it every time you get in and out of the car. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 09, 2014, 05:49:48 PM
I had to go back several pictures to see the curb that you were talking about.  Just looking it did not appear.  What would be wrong with just lengthing your studs in that particular area to compensate for the difference from the top of the curb.  I would use Pressure treated sill and studs if there is going to be water lying against it.  There is things you can do to make it water proof that would not require it to be poured.  Just a thought.
Framing it out should be fine, I was worried about siding only going to the bottom of the studs, but we have a rock ledge poured into the slab, and we are going to rock the groung up a couple or more feet, or use veneer rock like yours, so there should be no problem.
Thanks for the idea!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 09, 2014, 05:59:45 PM
Framing it out should be fine, I was worried about siding only going to the bottom of the studs, but we have a rock ledge poured into the slab, and we are going to rock the groung up a couple or more feet, or use veneer rock like yours, so there should be no problem.
Thanks for the idea!

Todd I was mainly thinking about water from the inside trying to make it to the outside. You can put a piece of Vinyle lumber which is solid vinyle 1X material under the sill plate so that any water that does decide to rest there and rot out your lumber. 

Need any suggestions or help on the rock let me know.  I have done tons to this point.  ;)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 09, 2014, 06:05:05 PM
Thanks John,
I have used vinyl before on my house in town, great idea!
When I get to the rock section of the build, I will want to pick your brain..
Thanks.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 09, 2014, 06:46:05 PM
Thanks John,
I have used vinyl before on my house in town, great idea!
When I get to the rock section of the build, I will want to pick your brain..
Thanks.

There is several steps to get ready for the stone before your siding goes on so think it out first.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 13, 2014, 02:42:15 PM
Got the garage framed almost done less 1 lvl....there will be a 2nd floor on top.

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This is the 10 foot wide entry 20 foot deep, I had trusses built to match the existing roof profile.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 13, 2014, 02:46:45 PM
Looking good.  How did adding the extra studs work out?  What have you decided on joining the garage to the house on the short concrete slab?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 13, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
Looking good.  How did adding the extra studs work out?  What have you decided on joining the garage to the house on the short concrete slab?
I added some extra studs, I will probably alter it a couple times...
I think I might get a quote on a 10 foot door instead of the 8' door because the 8 looks so small, and if the cost of the 10' door is close enough to the 12' door, I probably will go ahead and bite the bullet and get the 12'....

Short slab wise, is where the main entry will go, the stairs for over the garage will also go in that small area..
The front wall (the side the pic was taken) will be right under 8' tall, the back wall will be 14'7" tall. A scissor truss will sit on the walls matching the profile of the cabin scissor truss. At the interior peak will be over 18' tall.
I figured I would build that section last .
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 13, 2014, 03:26:58 PM
I added some extra studs, I will probably alter it a couple times...
I think I might get a quote on a 10 foot door instead of the 8' door because the 8 looks so small, and if the cost of the 10' door is close enough to the 12' door, I probably will go ahead and bite the bullet and get the 12'....

12' I thought you were originally going for a 10' door ???

Short slab wise, is where the main entry will go, the stairs for over the garage will also go in that small area..
The front wall (the side the pic was taken) will be right under 8' tall, the back wall will be 14'7" tall. A scissor truss will sit on the walls matching the profile of the cabin scissor truss. At the interior peak will be over 18' tall.
I figured I would build that section last .

No I was referring to the portion that was not poured up close enough to the house.

Looks like you have a lot of figuring to do.  Stairs going up to the second floor from the house as well as going down to the main entry from the house as well.  I assume via the end door in the house.  Is that correct? Landing? Stairs running parrallel to the house to the front going down?

Not to be nosey but are you going to have a shop beside of the garage( width w/o door) or is this also part of a living area?  The reason I wa asking is that I didn't notice any windows to the front or back for any natural light.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 13, 2014, 03:38:40 PM

Lol John, sorry.
The slab is closer to the cabin wall than I thought it was, I can clean up the gap with a little furring.
The original door size we planned on was 12 foot, (I might have said 10 sorry) but when the quotes came in,  :o
$2400.00 I thought that was quit a jump when the 8' version is $1200.00
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 13, 2014, 03:58:04 PM
John,
The down stairs window will be opened to a door. Stairs with a landing running parallel to the wall. From that landing we will continue the stairs to the back wall, across the back wall, and turn up the garage wall side to the upper floor making a U shaped staircase if that makes sense.. we also plan on building a bride, or catwalk from the upstairs window over the the upper floor of the garage.
As far as the garage area without the door, it just workshop area and a place for my deep freeze, pellets for the pellet stove in the winter, tools and so on.
It will be nice to have a closer work area than my barn, which is 300 feet from my house.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 13, 2014, 04:17:46 PM
John,
The down stairs window will be opened to a door. Stairs with a landing running parallel to the wall. From that landing we will continue the stairs to the back wall, across the back wall, and turn up the garage wall side to the upper floor making a U shaped staircase if that makes sense.. we also plan on building a bride, or catwalk from the upstairs window over the the upper floor of the garage.
As far as the garage area without the door, it just workshop area and a place for my deep freeze, pellets for the pellet stove in the winter, tools and so on.
It will be nice to have a closer work area than my barn, which is 300 feet from my house.

Yes stairs parallel to the house from the garage area to the house will probably save you some floor space in that room.  I also was wondering about the shop area w/o any windows except maybe light from the garage door. 

Thanks for the time to explain.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 13, 2014, 04:33:54 PM
The garage overhead door and the back door will have windows, but we didnt plan any others in the garage.
We always end up adding or changing the build at this stage.  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 25, 2014, 04:09:30 PM
Got the floor trusses up for the 2nd floor bedrooms above the garage..
They are 24" deep x 20' long....
They were kind of tough to get them installed....really windy today, but it was 60 degrees.  :)
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 17, 2014, 09:19:38 AM
here is a hand drawing of what the addition will resemble within reason, and what is where. having a good imagination will help here...lol
the porch on the cabin in the drawing is not on the existing cabin.

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 17, 2014, 09:25:27 AM
OK.  So basicly the roof of the old portion will be the same elevation as the addition w/exception of the entry way/stairs which will be lower in elevation. Correct?  Just curious (other than appearance) as to why you didn't run the new addition (entry and stairs included) in one section rather than break it up?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 17, 2014, 10:07:50 AM
OK.  So basicly the roof of the old portion will be the same elevation as the addition w/exception of the entry way/stairs which will be lower in elevation. Correct?  Just curious (other than appearance) as to why you didn't run the new addition (entry and stairs included) in one section rather than break it up?
the entryway roof is lower, and the garage roof will be a little taller than the existing cabin. over the garage will be a 8/12 roof.
the entryway and stair roof was originally drawn to flow consecutively from the cabin, but we dropped the scissor truss ~ 4.5" to the underside of the finished soffit because we are using a different metal profile on the addition roof.
after drawing it out, we kind of liked the way it looked.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: new land owner on February 17, 2014, 02:00:36 PM
I like how your design breaks up the building.  I don't think it would look as good if you just made it one long building.

Nice design.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 17, 2014, 03:31:07 PM
I like how your design breaks up the building.  I don't think it would look as good if you just made it one long building.

Nice design.
Thanks for the encouragement.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on February 18, 2014, 08:45:00 AM
Looks like the floor trusses are on a 2' center.  Mine are going to be 2' deep but 16" OC going 26'.  I see a horizontal board along the top corner of the floor trusses.  Is that there to stay or just for fixturing?  Is the floor truss notched out for it to be there? 

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 18, 2014, 10:14:37 AM
Looks like the floor trusses are on a 2' center.  Mine are going to be 2' deep but 16" OC going 26'.  I see a horizontal board along the top corner of the floor trusses.  Is that there to stay or just for fixturing?  Is the floor truss notched out for it to be there? 

thanks
Austin
hey Austin, they are on 2 foot centers.
that board fits in a let in built into the floor truss.
the overhanging part needs cut off.
the trusses are extremely stout!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on February 18, 2014, 10:25:19 AM
Thanks for the info.  It sounded like you had them installed but do you remember how many guys it took to lift them? 

I'm looking forward to being able to use them to run wiring, plumbing, and AC ducts.  Gotta love 'em. 

Also, I really like the house plan.  We do the same thing.  I sketch up what the final house will look like.  We are going the other way.  We are building the garage house first and then build the two story next door.  I should have my thread started when I start framing in mid-March.

thanks

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on February 18, 2014, 01:46:58 PM
They are light but ungainly, I've installed 32'ers solo lifting one end up at a time. Be very careful of the nail plates, they make perfect people graters. they've absolutely shredded my hands a few times  d*
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on February 19, 2014, 04:08:22 AM
Thanks Don.  My old attic trusses from last time, got me.  I still have the scar on my right arm.  I lifted them with a bunch of 5' cut off strips of straps.  When the subfloor was down, I went back and was trying to cut down all the loops of strap.  Arm slipped and I hit something.  It hurt but no big deal.  Then I felt the dripping......    I had caught a corner of one of the nail plates.  Went pretty deep too.  Had some paper towels and duct tape.  Finished the day just fine. 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 19, 2014, 04:20:26 AM
Thanks for the info.  It sounded like you had them installed but do you remember how many guys it took to lift them? 

I'm looking forward to being able to use them to run wiring, plumbing, and AC ducts.  Gotta love 'em. 

Also, I really like the house plan.  We do the same thing.  I sketch up what the final house will look like.  We are going the other way.  We are building the garage house first and then build the two story next door.  I should have my thread started when I start framing in mid-March.

thanks

Austin
Austin,
my wife and I installed all the floor trusses.
like Don said, we lifted one end, then the other.
they are more akward than heavy...
Cant wait to see your progress!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 23, 2014, 03:57:00 PM

Got the upstairs outer walls framed this weekend  ;D
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Here are 2 of my helpers
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I still lack installing trimmer studs and window base, thought it might be lighter for me and the wife to lift the walls, and I will toe nail them in later.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: North Sask on March 02, 2014, 07:31:11 PM
Hi astidham. Great project - both the first place and the second. I was looking back through your post and I noticed your soffit details. I am planning to use the same detail that you did at your gable to eave soffit intersection. The "pork chop" seems easier to build but I just don't like the look. On the gable wall, did you install a ledger (2x2 or 2x4) between your lookouts to which you could nail your plywood soffit?


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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on March 03, 2014, 08:22:19 AM
Here are 2 of my helpers


Wow.  They are getting big!  Nice job on the framing in one weekend.  How are you going to lift up the OSB?  Gonna get that man lift again?  I'm thinking of sheathing the walls and even putting on house wrap before lifting but I'm planning on having friends come help lift, along with a wall jack or two. 

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 03, 2014, 08:25:12 AM
Hi astidham. Great project - both the first place and the second. I was looking back through your post and I noticed your soffit details. I am planning to use the same detail that you did at your gable to eave soffit intersection. The "pork chop" seems easier to build but I just don't like the look. On the gable wall, did you install a ledger (2x2 or 2x4) between your lookouts to which you could nail your plywood soffit?
hi North Sask,
on the gable ends, i used a drop chord truss that was 3.5" lower than the scissor trusses, which let me attach a 2x4 to the scissor truss, then land on top the drop chord truss and overhang.
then i blocked between them..
hope this helps.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 03, 2014, 08:29:50 AM
Here are 2 of my helpers


Wow.  They are getting big!  Nice job on the framing in one weekend.  How are you going to lift up the OSB?  Gonna get that man lift again?  I'm thinking of sheathing the walls and even putting on house wrap before lifting but I'm planning on having friends come help lift, along with a wall jack or two. 

thanks
Austin
Hey Austin, Thanks!
ive already sheathed half the upatairs this saturday.
i put my scaffolding together, screwed a 2x4 horizontally to the wall at 5'.
then my wife and I put 2 sheets at a time on the horizontal 2x4 and leaned it against the scaffold.
then my wife went on top the second level, and helped me get the sheathing pulled up......
I wish I had that man lift right Now!!!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: North Sask on March 05, 2014, 04:49:46 PM
hi North Sask,
on the gable ends, i used a drop chord truss that was 3.5" lower than the scissor trusses, which let me attach a 2x4 to the scissor truss, then land on top the drop chord truss and overhang.
then i blocked between them..

I guess I am trying to figure out what how you attached your plywood soffit. You would have nailed it to your 2x4 lookouts and maybe to your sub-fascia or fascia. Did you also nail it to the blocking between the 2x4's, or is that blocking located directly above the top plates of your drop chord truss?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 05, 2014, 05:07:16 PM
I guess I am trying to figure out what how you attached your plywood soffit. You would have nailed it to your 2x4 lookouts and maybe to your sub-fascia or fascia. Did you also nail it to the blocking between the 2x4's, or is that blocking located directly above the top plates of your drop chord truss?
I will try to find a pic for you.
But yes the blocking is above the upper chord of the trusses....
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: 10thMTNVET on March 13, 2014, 10:57:48 AM
You have done an outstanding job on this project. My wife and I are just beginning our first build. Your build is very inspiring.

Steven
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 14, 2014, 04:25:08 AM
You have done an outstanding job on this project. My wife and I are just beginning our first build. Your build is very inspiring.

Steven
Thanks Steven!
Good luck, can't wait to see your build.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 14, 2014, 05:25:03 AM
Todd hows the construction going?  Been a couple weeks since you posted any pictures of the stage that you are at.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 14, 2014, 08:00:55 AM
hey John,
All is going well, but very slow due to weather conditions and having to build after work.
I do have some updated pics I need to add though..
coming soon.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 14, 2014, 08:48:06 AM
got some sheathing up on the 2nd floor.
rain and high wind has kept me from moving too far on this, but i did get the interior walls framed.
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another reason i'm not more ahead is the Zip line.
I finished installing it around 5pm yesterday. the girls love it!  :) almost as much as I do.
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we settled on 200' long line.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: John Raabe on March 14, 2014, 09:31:41 AM
We had a zip line between trees on our building site. It was very popular for any kids (or the young at heart) who visited the site. That was thirty years ago but the now 70' tall tree it was strapped to still shows the welt it grew to protect itself against the cable. ::)

Reread your post... 200' wow! That's a much more exciting ride than we had.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 14, 2014, 09:36:29 AM
We had a zip line between trees on our building site. It was very popular for any kids (or the young at heart) who visited the site. That was thirty years ago but the now 70' tall tree it was strapped to still shows the welt it grew to protect itself against the cable. ::)

Reread your post... 200' wow! That's a much more exciting ride than we had.
it is lots of fun..
the tree that has bare cable wrapped on it, I put 2x4 blocks under the cable to help protect the tree.
the other tree just has chain on it.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rich2Vermont on March 14, 2014, 09:47:25 AM
Oooo. I would love a zip line at our place, but I envision it running from a treehouse, a la Treehouse Masters-type of treehouse. Always chasing the dream... :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on March 17, 2014, 06:11:42 AM
My kids got a 100' zipline for Christmas this year and it is still sitting in the box.....

The sheathing looks good.  Really looking forward to seeing how this turns out. 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 17, 2014, 07:12:17 AM
My kids got a 100' zipline for Christmas this year and it is still sitting in the box.....

The sheathing looks good.  Really looking forward to seeing how this turns out.
Thanks!
putting that zipline up wasnt as bad as I thought it would be..
im sure you will love yaurs.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 23, 2014, 06:32:52 PM
I have a short update, the wife and I got some trusses installed over the weekend
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The block and tackle hoist attached to a 2x4 on the top plate is how we raised the trusses to the 2nd floor, and pulled them through the door opening.
From there we hand lifted them to the top plate.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on March 24, 2014, 03:39:00 AM
Looks sharp!  What is the pitch on the roof?  8:12?  Are you just toe nailing the trusses or what?

I think I remember you saying you used wedge bolts for the base plates down on the slab.  How did that go?  Do you pre-drill the cement?

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 24, 2014, 03:49:06 AM
Looks sharp!  What is the pitch on the roof?  8:12?  Are you just toe nailing the trusses or what?

I think I remember you saying you used wedge bolts for the base plates down on the slab.  How did that go?  Do you pre-drill the cement?

Austin
Hey Austin,
thanks!! you are right! the pitch is 8/12. as far as fastening the trusses, I am toe nailing them, then adding hurricane clips when I get all the trusses up. the gable ends are attached with (6 each) 6" timberloks through the plates into the bottom chord of the truss.
and the wedge bolts in the concrete was a great alternative to having bolts poured in the slab. no lifting walls over the bolts.
I pre-drilled through the bottom plates, and after I stood the wall up and temp braced it, I drilled the holes in the concrete.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on March 24, 2014, 05:48:58 AM
Nice job.  On my first build I used only timberloks with no nails.  I don't know how they compare in price to hurricane clips.  I just really like the convenence of being able to stand flat footed and running them in with a 1/2" drill.  I had 22.5" 2x4 spacers for setting the trusses and I would run in the timberloks while the skytrak was still holding the truss.  Once I had the system down, it went pretty fast (as fast as doing it by yourself can go).

I've never done the holes in concrete thing.  Did you use a 1/2 drill?  What size bit?  What kind of bit.  As you can see, since I've never done that part, I'm stressing over it. 

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 24, 2014, 07:25:04 AM
Nice job.  On my first build I used only timberloks with no nails.  I don't know how they compare in price to hurricane clips.  I just really like the convenence of being able to stand flat footed and running them in with a 1/2" drill.  I had 22.5" 2x4 spacers for setting the trusses and I would run in the timberloks while the skytrak was still holding the truss.  Once I had the system down, it went pretty fast (as fast as doing it by yourself can go).

I've never done the holes in concrete thing.  Did you use a 1/2 drill?  What size bit?  What kind of bit.  As you can see, since I've never done that part, I'm stressing over it.
 

thanks
Austin
I used a 6" long 1/2 inch diameter concrete bit. the bit was made by kobalt, got it at lowes.. i used my dewalt 18v drill on the hammer setting. Dont stress about it, it was very easy.
I drilled through the bottom plate after the wall was framed and still laying flat on the ground. then stood the wall up, and used the predrilled holes through the wood as a drill guide to help steady drilling the concrete. if you have access to a heavy duty hammer drill, it would be alot easier to drill the holes than doing it with a cordless hammer drill.
drill the hole put the washer and nut on the wedge bolt, and beat the bolt into the hole.
I was very nervous the first hole too,
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 30, 2014, 04:34:30 PM
My wife and I finished the trusses this weekend, and got the sub fascia on the front side.
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Here is a picture of our future bedroom 10x12
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And this is the bathroom. The remainder of the upstairs is my 3 daughters bunkhouse
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The opening to the right will be a door to a deck and stairs.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on March 31, 2014, 06:27:12 AM
Looks good.  Nice view out on that future deck!

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 31, 2014, 07:23:39 AM
Thanks Austin!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 20, 2014, 04:47:06 PM
Got the roof sheathing installed this weekend.
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Since I rented a boom lift, I took some above pictures
This is looking east, the direction our living room faces
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This is looking south
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This is looking north
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You can see the sidewalks and the entry landing concrete I had poured,  or most of it in some of the above pictures
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on April 20, 2014, 04:53:57 PM
low flying aerials.....  :)    [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on April 21, 2014, 04:37:32 AM
OK, you are walking the path for me.  Give me the run down on the lift procedure.  From the pics, it looks like it is four sheets from drip edge to peak (16').  Can you controll the bucket from the bucket?  How long is the new addition?  How long did sheething like this take?  Usually rental places will let you rent something for a "day" and you get it for the whole long weekend if it is a holiday (Good Friday) but only want you to use 8 hours on the machine.  Were you able to get it done in less than 8 hours of run time?

My last build went really fast until I got to the roof sheathing.......

In one of the pictures it looks like you are standing on the roof with the lift backing you.  How was it up there on that 8/12? 

Great pics.  I know you are excited to get that part done.  Whats the plan for the paper to cover the roof sheathing?

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 21, 2014, 07:08:42 AM
OK, you are walking the path for me.  Give me the run down on the lift procedure.  From the pics, it looks like it is four sheets from drip edge to peak (16').  Can you controll the bucket from the bucket?  How long is the new addition?  How long did sheething like this take?  Usually rental places will let you rent something for a "day" and you get it for the whole long weekend if it is a holiday (Good Friday) but only want you to use 8 hours on the machine.  Were you able to get it done in less than 8 hours of run time?

My last build went really fast until I got to the roof sheathing.......

In one of the pictures it looks like you are standing on the roof with the lift backing you.  How was it up there on that 8/12? 

Great pics.  I know you are excited to get that part done.  Whats the plan for the paper to cover the roof sheathing?


thanks
Austin

Hey Austin,
There are 3 full sheets, and the top row 4th sheet width was cut down to 30.5"
The lift is completely controlled from the bucket.
I did get it for the whole weekend for a 8hr rental cost, but turning it on and off between cuting lifting and nailing, the machine ran about 4hrs. The rental place said they dont record hrs on their lifts though.
Installation took me about 15 hrs working alone. If you had help cutting and holding the sheets, it would be a single day job.
The garage section is 30 feet long.
If its possible to park your lift in the middle of the slope side where you can rotate back and forth to install the sheet, the lift does most the work. I screwed some 2x4s to the front of the bucket to hold the plywood, then c_clamped the sheet to the bucket. After laying the sheet down, I leaned on the bucket untill I got the sheet nailed down enough to hold onto the sheet to nail the rest off.
The 8 pitch was a lot steeper than I thought it would be.
I think to paper it in, I will start on my scaffolding, then put some roof jacks on as I go up.... I will be wearing a climbing harness, and be roped off for this.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on April 21, 2014, 09:11:59 AM
Thanks for the detailed info.  Your place is really coming along. 

Using your 63sqft/hr, it should take me 26 hours working alone.  UG!  Still much better than the months it took me last time.  I will get the lift on a three day weekend and maybe the next Monday too.  That is only 7hrs a day for four days.  Not too bad.  I might keep it for another day to do the paper too. 

I start framing tomorrow!

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 21, 2014, 10:09:39 AM
Glad to hear you adventure starts again!
Cant wait to see it.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 04, 2014, 06:47:40 PM
I had to cut the overhang off the house for the entryway truss to attach.
I had scissor trusses built to matchup with the cabin scissors but have decided against using them, and had 6 more trusses built to match the addition trusses.
Removing the overhang was a big job.  :o
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 14, 2014, 09:47:43 AM
Have a short update, here is the entry wall.
Its 18 foot tall, and was a job to to get stood upright.
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We have side lights and a arched window for above the door.
We are also thinking we might put another window near the top of the wall, so we left that area open until we decide.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on May 15, 2014, 06:30:45 AM
Looks great!  So that area is going to be open all the way up?  Then a cat walk from the old upstairs to the new upstairs?  That will be neat!  Yes, I would have a window up there just to get some natural light up on that catwalk.  On the catwalk, yeah!

I'm already setting my floor trusses on my build but I can't get to photobucket from work so I'm not able to post pictures.  I will try to get caught up and get a post going next weekend. 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 15, 2014, 12:02:11 PM
Looks great!  So that area is going to be open all the way up?  Then a cat walk from the old upstairs to the new upstairs?  That will be neat!  Yes, I would have a window up there just to get some natural light up on that catwalk.  On the catwalk, yeah!

I'm already setting my floor trusses on my build but I can't get to photobucket from work so I'm not able to post pictures.  I will try to get caught up and get a post going next weekend. 

Austin
Hey Austin, the wall will be open the whole way, it looks gigantic when you are standing in front of it!
I can't wait to see your updates on your build!  :)
if a works out, i should have the catwalk area framed and floored by this weekend...
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 19, 2014, 10:49:42 AM
Here is the entryway with the catwalk built, it is more like a loft now that we built it all the way to the back wall.
Underneath is the pantry.
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View from the back side of the addition.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on May 19, 2014, 10:55:30 AM
Looks good.  What are you going to do with the area between the bottom of the old building and the top of the slab.  Looks like it will be a tough spot to insulate. 

Also, do you have big plans for the coming 3 day weekend?

I got my floor trusses installed this past weekend.  26' long and 2' tall.  I had 40 of them!  It was rough but I had two friends helping.  It wore me OUT!

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 19, 2014, 11:54:56 AM
Looks good.  What are you going to do with the area between the bottom of the old building and the top of the slab.  Looks like it will be a tough spot to insulate. 

Also, do you have big plans for the coming 3 day weekend?

I got my floor trusses installed this past weekend.  26' long and 2' tall.  I had 40 of them!  It was rough but I had two friends helping.  It wore me OUT!

Austin
Hey Austin, Thanks!
that bottom section, I'm going to frame a 2x6 pony wall around 40" I think, to close the gap and insulate the area below the existing house.
I'm excited about the extra time off this coming weekend, I had to work saturday of this last weekend, so I didnt get as much done as I planned.
  I bet your happy to be done with the floor, when we did ours (ony 20 footers) it took some time to recover. the worst of it was the 7/8 decking, pushing it onto a 10 foot surface was painful.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on May 20, 2014, 03:21:45 AM
Since I tried to get as much stuff out of my trees as I possible could, I had them cut a bunch of 1x material.  I'm going to use that as subfloor if I have enough.  That will take a little more time to install and lift up but it isn't nearly as heavy!  No 7/8" decking for me!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 20, 2014, 12:02:06 PM
this is a view of the walkway between the addition and the cabin.
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we also have the back wall build, just not in this picture.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on May 22, 2014, 04:50:53 AM
I really like that crossover bridge area.  That will be nice.  I'm also interested in what you are doing because at some point, I want to add on as well. 

How wide is the window that you are opening into a door?  I've set my headers so that doors and windows are the same.  Also, most of my windows are 36" wide so it will be easy to convert over into a door later if needed. 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on May 22, 2014, 05:47:28 PM
I really like that crossover bridge area.  That will be nice.  I'm also interested in what you are doing because at some point, I want to add on as well. 

How wide is the window that you are opening into a door?  I've set my headers so that doors and windows are the same.  Also, most of my windows are 36" wide so it will be easy to convert over into a door later if needed. 

Austin
Hey Austin,
that window is 36" like yours, the problem is that i will have to cut through the top plates to open the door down to floor level.
there will be some modification needed to accomplish this task...  d*
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on May 23, 2014, 01:46:07 AM
Well, I would have to see the framing to comment with any suggestions but since that "door" is so far up into the rafters, remember there isn't much load above it.  I would make sure the rafters can't fall toward each other and make sure that the rafters are well supported to the left and right of the "door" but that is about it.  This is a gable end opening with not much above it. 

I'm sure you have a plan already in your head!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 13, 2014, 09:49:21 AM
Got the entryway roof sheathed but no pics, photobucket is not letting me upload...
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 13, 2014, 10:44:25 AM
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 20, 2014, 04:51:03 PM
bathroom walls are framed, and we got 1 truss up today!!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 25, 2014, 01:44:26 PM
got the bathroom roof sheathing on!
still need to put on the fascia, but rain was in the forcast, so I put on the felt...
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on June 26, 2014, 03:29:28 AM
Keeping it dry is good!  We have had rain every day for the past four days! 
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on June 26, 2014, 02:01:34 PM
Keeping it dry is good!  We have had rain every day for the past four days!
i hear that, we get the tools drug out and get set up then it starts raining...
when we get everything put up it stops...lol
building weather..... d*
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 07, 2014, 02:02:47 PM
had my garage door and opener installed today! not all the harware was installed because one of the panels was dented, its the second panel up on the lft side.
The door is rated R-19, and has insulated glass.
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The garage door opener is a marantec, its a german made opener with a lifetime warranty. its belt driven, and quiet. the rolling wheels are louder than the motor.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on July 07, 2014, 02:05:59 PM
Attractive door. [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on July 08, 2014, 03:19:30 AM
Very Nice.  I like it!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 08, 2014, 04:34:31 PM
Thanks John and Austin..
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 10, 2014, 12:05:15 PM
My wife and I decided to get a new mower for the cabin property.
Up to this point other than the very few times we brush hogged it, it has been mowed with a push mower, but just a small area.
We have had a number of copperhead snakes around the cabin this year, and with my girls running around barefoot, we figured it was time.
We bought a Bad Boy commercial ZT 54” mower with the big Kawasaki engine.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on July 11, 2014, 07:56:07 AM
You are REALLY going to enjoy that. 

The first year of property ownership all I had was a free broken down snapper that I got up and running again.  Riding mower with a 38" cut.  I still have it.  I was taking about a 10" bite out each time I went around.  The grass was over the hood!  ha! 

Now I have the kubota and a 5' brush hog.  I'm looking forward to the time when the property is in good enough shape for a zero turn like that. 

Good Job!
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 11, 2014, 11:58:59 AM
Thanks austin,
i mowed a little today, about 1.5 acres. that thing zips through whatever you put it on, and never bogs down.
i love this mower
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on July 14, 2014, 03:23:53 AM
I hadn't mowed in months when I got the tractor.  It was at least five feet high in some spots.  I had never driven a tractor so I took it around a little.  I just sort of zigged zagged around for a while out in the open with the brush hog going.  Sure enough the next day Google updated their satelite image of the property.  It looks like a crazy person had been mowing.  That was a couple of years ago.  I'm really looking forward to it being updated again so that image will go away!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on July 14, 2014, 04:02:42 AM
I hadn't mowed in months when I got the tractor.  It was at least five feet high in some spots.  I had never driven a tractor so I took it around a little.  I just sort of zigged zagged around for a while out in the open with the brush hog going.  Sure enough the next day Google updated their satelite image of the property.  It looks like a crazy person had been mowing.  That was a couple of years ago.  I'm really looking forward to it being updated again so that image will go away!

Where is the like / love it button.  ROFL  rofl
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 14, 2014, 12:03:47 PM
the only thumbs up I could find  [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Adam Roby on July 14, 2014, 02:30:58 PM
I hadn't mowed in months when I got the tractor.  It was at least five feet high in some spots.  I had never driven a tractor so I took it around a little.  I just sort of zigged zagged around for a while out in the open with the brush hog going.  Sure enough the next day Google updated their satelite image of the property.  It looks like a crazy person had been mowing.  That was a couple of years ago.  I'm really looking forward to it being updated again so that image will go away!

You have to share a picture of that!  I have a friend from work that is upset with Google because she was weeding the flower bed in front of her house when they drove by and all you see if her butt as she leans forward.  Everyone that Googles her to get directions are met with her butt... too funny.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on July 15, 2014, 03:53:15 AM
Here you go.  You can see I mowed around the house build (this is the one that burned down) and then down the hills and around!  HA!


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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Adam Roby on July 15, 2014, 08:50:08 AM
Hilarious!  Y'ever watch COPS?  There was one episode where some guy was driving a mowing tractor, with a bottle of something in his hands and he was drunk out of his mind, actually fell off the tractor as the cops were following him.

Found the video...
http://www.snotr.com/video/2042/Drunk_on_a_lawn_mower

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 16, 2014, 01:25:09 PM
anyone know how a self supporting eyebrow roofs over garage doors are built?
I want to put one across the entire front of my addition, but cant find anything as far as building one.
i just want a 2' one
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on July 16, 2014, 01:47:41 PM
Maybe something worth while here.

https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&aq=&oq=eyebrow+roof&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1T4TSNA_enUS401US438&q=eyebrow+roof+framing&gs_l=hp..3.0l4j0i22i30.0.0.0.8953...........0.FUmKWeRdoRY
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 16, 2014, 02:56:46 PM
thanks John!
I would like to build one simular to jan's Moab house build.
most of his pictures of construction are missing though.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 16, 2014, 03:14:51 PM
like this. not sure whats going on framing wise
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 21, 2014, 12:41:38 PM
got 14 windows installed this weekend
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and here is a mock up of the entryway porch roof
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 28, 2014, 12:56:36 PM
got the eyebrow roof over the garage door this weekend, I ended up using trusses with a ledger cutout.
the total overhang is 24".
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: tommytebco on July 29, 2014, 02:25:47 AM
This is a really nice project. Your cabin is turning into a palace. Space is appreciated much more when it arrives incrementally.
Thanks for taking us along.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 29, 2014, 11:57:13 AM
Thanks Tommy,
my wife and I have 3 girls, and a baby on the way, so the extra room will be real nice, and the storage is very needed.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on July 31, 2014, 05:17:35 AM
I'm sure you will have a door from the garage area to the living area but lots of times you end up parking outside of the garage and that eyebrow roof will do alot for keeping your head dry when you are making a run for the front door in the rain!

Nice job on the windows too.  It is nice to use those scaffolds on the cement!  Very nice!

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 31, 2014, 12:04:57 PM
Thanks Austin, I cant remeber really ever parking in the garage anywhere else I have lived.. or having a garage empty enough to do so otherwise..  :)
there is a door that goes into the entry from the garage though.
and being able to work off the scaffolding on the concret has been real nice! wish I had concrete all around the house!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: shawninpaso on August 07, 2014, 10:26:16 AM
Hello astidham -

You have built a beautiful place!  I am in the process of setting up a cistern too. Obviously it's been a couple of years, but I wonder if you could help with some of the plumbing details?

It appears from the image that there are two outputs from the tank and one appears to have a filter on it, is that right? Also, presuming that the pump is an "on demand" type, could you possibly advise the specs on the pump?

Your work has such quality - makes me step back with pause.

Thanks very kindly,
Shawn in Paso Robles, CA.

Its been a while since my last post, we have finished most of the kitchen cabinets and tin back splash, and are waiting on drawers.
we started finishing the exterior, got the cistern installed, and have learned a lot about hauling water.

a pic of the hauled water cistern.
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That is all for now!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: SouthernTier on August 08, 2014, 11:18:06 AM
Well, I am not Astidham, but I am contemplating something similar to this.  There is only one output from the tank.  The filter is just inline with the exit.

The pump usually is controlled by the pressure in the pressure tank.  When the pressure in the tank (which is the same more or less at the exit port from the pump - it looks like the settings are set right at the pump) gets below the low pressure set point, it turns the pump on to raise the pressure to the high pressure set point.

In my case, I will have a cistern higher up on a hill near a spring.  So I will have a second pressure tank between the cistern and the pump.  The first pressure tank will maintain water at a pressure equal to the hydrostatic pressure I get from the elevation difference.  I have to have the pump draw from that tank rather than all the way from the cistern, because the pump could pull too much of a vacuum over the long run from the spring, and then you'd get cavitation (formation of vapor droplets) which destroys the pump impeller.

This all said, I would love to hear what Astidham has to say about all the components between the cistern and the pump.  I see a filter, fittings on either side of the filter, but then a big bulge.  Is that bulge just to dampen vibrations of the pump?  Or something else?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 08, 2014, 01:34:26 PM
the pump is a 3/4 hp jet pump from tractor supply.
it comes with a preset pressure switch that turns on at 30psi and off at 60psi. the pressure tank is 25 gallon. when the pressure tank is full and reaches the 60psi the pump automatically shuts off.
the sediment filter came from lowes... and the bulge in the pipe is a back flow preventer (ball valve from lowes), because the pressure tank will push the water back into the tank without it.. and on each side of the sediment filter is a union, so the entire filter unit can be removed.
what is missing in the picture is the shut off valve that was added later, and the ball valve has been replaced with a well point threaded inside the tank.
one of my upcoming projects will be moving all the cistern components into the garage less the tank, and moving the tank to a place less intrusive.
basically all the things southern Tier said!

Shawn, Thank you for the complement, however a picture can hide a lot of imperfection..  :)
I might not have covered everything you asked, so let me know if I can help..

Todd
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: shawninpaso on August 08, 2014, 05:30:07 PM
Hey guys, thanks very much for your replies and terrific help.

My area is in a major drought, and my 5,000 gallon water tank sits idle. Seems now is the time to re-configure the water source (an underground well/pump) to feed the tank - and then draw from the tank rather than directly from the well.

Very much appreciated.

Shawn
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 19, 2014, 06:43:46 PM
Adrienne and I have been mortaring rock around the pillars for the front entry porch.
this is the first time we have tried feildstone laying, so it is a learning experience.
the rock we are using is from our property, so it varies in thickness and shape.
I have been shaping the stone with a mini sledge and a chisel.

pictures soon photobucket is giving me fits..
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 19, 2014, 06:46:03 PM
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on August 20, 2014, 11:05:49 AM
You gotta get out of my head!  We are planning to do the same.  Your field stone looks great.  I'm always big on local stone and the fact that it is from your land is all the better. 

Lots of people around here use "austin" stone because it looks "texas".  It bugs me to no end because there is zero austin stone in East Texas.  It is a very light colored stone from central TX.  We will be using east texas iron ore!  It is an obviously rusty colored stone that used to be mined around here.  If you want to learn some interesting TX history, google "New Birmingham, Texas".  It is (was) about two miles north of my property.  I've found a good amount on my property but not enough to do our five columns.  I probably just need to dig a little.  If all else fails I can get it from friends. 

Again, that looks great. 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on August 20, 2014, 07:04:52 PM
Thanks Austin!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 03, 2014, 12:10:24 PM
pillars are done! I see why masons charge the amount they do... and what they charge is not enough.
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here are my two oldest girls pretending to be the future post to hold up the roof...lol
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on September 04, 2014, 03:37:39 AM
Again, nice work.  The columns do look great and the girls as always are as cute as they can be. 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 19, 2014, 12:25:43 PM
here are the cedar logs and the start of the entry roof
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I found instructions on laying out and cutting the rafter birdsmouth (seat cut) here
http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-A-Common-Rafter-For-Any-Width-Structur/?ALLSTEPS (http://www.instructables.com/id/How-To-Make-A-Common-Rafter-For-Any-Width-Structur/?ALLSTEPS)
I thought it was mostley to the point.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: OlJarhead on September 21, 2014, 04:29:32 AM
Love it!

How did you secure the posts?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 21, 2014, 07:52:07 AM
Love it!

How did you secure the posts?
Thanks,
i drove an 18" stick of rebar in the center of the log after drilling a pilot hole, leaving 3" hanging out of the bottom.
I coated the bottom of the log will silicone, then drilled a 5/8" hole in the concrete top pad, put down a wet morter bed to level the log and hold the rebar.
on the top i put in a 6" timberlok, and several deck screws.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 15, 2014, 12:04:45 PM
I finished the roof today on the 2 story section of the addition....
I used a rock climbing harness and a repelling rope mounted to a roof mount
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glad this part is almost over..
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on October 16, 2014, 08:18:53 AM
Looks great.  Really starting to tie in with the other building. 

How long did it take you to get that much of the roof done?

thanks
Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 16, 2014, 12:03:30 PM
Thanks Austin,
it took 2 weekends, long weekends.
mainly because the lack of help. with 3 or 4 people, I could have finished it in a weekend.
the little bathroom off the back of the house, I roofed complete today before I went to work.  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 16, 2014, 12:16:40 PM
there lower roof over the bathroom is complete!
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 20, 2014, 02:07:59 PM
got the entry roof and the eyebrow roof finished this weekend.
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just a little more roofing and  sidewall flasing to go!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on October 21, 2014, 03:22:36 AM
I like that the entrance and eyebrow are both 12/12 pitch like the original 1.5 story.  It really ties it together. 

Lookin good!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 01, 2015, 10:47:11 AM
Haven't updated in a while,  but really i haven't got much done either. Here is a picture of the front with the entry area sheathed
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Work and weather has kept me away from progress. And probably a little laziness too.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: rick91351 on January 01, 2015, 08:58:09 PM

Work and weather has kept me away from progress. And probably a little laziness too.

I know the feeling - WOWWW do I know the feeling.  But wow your place is looking nice.   [cool]
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 02, 2015, 08:02:19 AM
Thanks Rick,
warm weather always motivates me..  ;D
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on January 05, 2015, 04:58:10 AM
Looks good!  What is left to do?  What is the next step?  Plumbing? 

As far as getting stuff done, I had amost two weeks off and got very little done.  First I was too busy with Christmas, and then it rained for a week.  Between showers I did finally finish the paper on the roof. 

Austin.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 05, 2015, 03:11:26 PM
Hey Austin, Thanks.
I have a little bit of framing left, and my next priority will be installing doors, then installing the hvac ductwork once I get it figured out. I am getting ready to have the entire place spray foam insulated, open cell.
After my vacation was over I figured out all kinds of things I could have done in my time off but didnt...lol
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on January 06, 2015, 06:41:50 AM
What made you decide open cell vs closed cell?  Also, what are you looking at as far as cost.  Down here it is about $1 per board foot (1"x12"x12").

Won't you need to run power and water before having it sprayed? 

Are you DIYing the HVAC?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 07, 2015, 07:58:14 AM
Hey Austin,
I went with open cell mainly for cost reasons. 1.00 a square foot to fill the 2x4 stud bay vs the 1.00 an inch closed cell. The insulation company also suggests open cell for this application.
I will be installing my own ductwork and equipment.  I will hire a hvac guy to make the final connections though. The hvac guys who have quoted me so far have figure returns at half the cfm as the system produces and other design flaws, so I cant pay theses guys a doctors salary to design a system wrong. Ive been reading manual j, d and bought a super cool slide rule to design it myself... wish me luck. Lol
I have the elecric and plumbing laid out not to interfere with the exterior wall envelope, except 1 drain, and 1 through roof vent.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on January 07, 2015, 08:43:20 AM
Todd,

You and I must be cousins or something.  Good for you on the HVAC.  Most of these guys are jokers that have no idea what a manual j is!  They would problemably give you 1 ton/500sqft regardless of your insulation or window location and size.  Lots of guys over on the ecorenovator site have installed their own minisplits but no full systems.  Please keep us up to date on how it goes.  The last big expense for our house is the HVAC and I would love to be able to do it myself.  Where are you getting your supplies?  I heard that sometimes the parts places don't like selling to "non-pros".

I'm going to need lots more details on how you want to do it.  Is the downstairs conditioned or is it all shop?  If the downstairs is conditioned, are you going with one unit or two?  Are you running the ducts in the attic?  Will the unit be in the attic?  Or are you going to use those big floor trusses and put the vents in the floor of the 2nd floor?  DETAILS!!

I've got one more guy that does it on the side that I want to call before I decide to do it myself but I have been leaning DIY for months.

Also, before you put the vent through the roof, have you thought about a peak gable vent?  No roof leaks and it is per code if it is far enough from windows and doors (not that we have to build to code). 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 07, 2015, 09:12:42 AM
Austin,
we are cut from the same cloth for sure.
I am thinking the indor unit will be on the 2nd floor downdraft to the trusses so I can run a return in the entry area side wall near the ceiling where the wall height is 18 feet, then a couple more through out the down stairs.
I have walled off part of what was garage area next to the entry, for a living room, you can see in the last picture I posted the dou le window, its there. As far as vent, you have changed my idea on the drain waste vent, what a great idea!!! I am going to do that! thank you!
as far as the hvac systems, acwholesalers.com you can get all your equipment,  delivered to you for cheaper than a friend can get it for at the local hvac supply house, so thats where im getting mine. 18 seer goodman heatpump, 3 ton unit total system is under 3500.00 delivered to your door.
My idea is to run rigid round pipe off the plenum up and down from the floor truss after all my calculations are done, I will document the entire thing.
Todd
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on January 08, 2015, 05:09:12 AM
Todd,

Ok!  All I have been thinking about for the past 24hrs is HVAC.  For some time I have know what manual J and manual D is, but I didn't know where you bought the stuff.  I've been shoping around and the manual J book is over $100 and the manual D is $60.  Is there a cheaper place to get them?

I'm not sure if I'm going to need a 3 ton or 3.5 ton but I'm doing 2400 sqft with high insulation.  I'm hoping to get it done DIY for $4000.  We will see!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on January 09, 2015, 06:18:35 PM
Austin, I bought my hvac manuals on ebay for 16 dollars, I found manual j online,  but can't find the link I was using. 3.5 ton is definitely in the range or less. Also check out supercoolsliderule.com it has some good stuff on there.
Todd
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 15, 2015, 06:15:59 PM
It's been a while since I've posted, but I have got some stuff done.
I put metal siding on the back of the addition,  most of it anyway.
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also got some of the pine live edge stained and installed
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: dablack on July 20, 2015, 07:16:42 AM
Todd,

That is looking sharp.  You have passed me right up.  No siding on my place at all.  I'm waiting for cooler weather. 

Austin
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: UK4X4 on July 21, 2015, 01:01:13 AM
Love the front view, its gone from pretty normal to really interesting ,

where did you get that upper window frame -on the porch or confesional frame... ?
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 21, 2015, 04:55:18 AM
Thanks UK, The frame is a hobby lobby wall hanging my wife sanded and stained. It does not have glass though.

Austin, the inside is still sticks, so you still have the W...  im trying to finish the outdoor work so wintertime will be sheltered work...  :)
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: UK4X4 on July 21, 2015, 12:19:44 PM
Would you have a part or link to it, I'm after a couple of false windows for my now boring west end when we changed the design of the house
and it's now basicly bare
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 22, 2015, 06:08:15 AM
Here is a simular one
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/rustic-red-metal-and-wood-wall-decor-634980/ (http://shop.hobbylobby.com/products/rustic-red-metal-and-wood-wall-decor-634980/)
I couldn't find the same one on their site..
Here is the expanded link
http://shop.hobbylobby.com/home-decor-and-framing/wall-decor-and-art/?subcat=Swirls%2c%20Shapes%20%26%20Decorative%20Wall%20Pieces&perpage=96 (http://shop.hobbylobby.com/home-decor-and-framing/wall-decor-and-art/?subcat=Swirls%2c%20Shapes%20%26%20Decorative%20Wall%20Pieces&perpage=96)
I hope this helps.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mpulse on July 29, 2015, 09:50:34 AM
Just read the whole thing I love what you got going here.  I live in Skiatook where abouts are you located

Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on July 29, 2015, 01:10:28 PM
Thanks, im west of town by the lake, are you starting a build in skiatook?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: mpulse on July 30, 2015, 10:42:16 AM
No, Im building south of Muskogee little town called Porum
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 05, 2015, 06:26:11 AM
started ductwork this week.
i used spiral duct for the trunk and branches.. its nice to get 10 feet of pipe without a joint.
I have 1000.00 in materials including floor registers. i was quoted 9000.00 for duct only install (no registers). it took me 2 days to install, and i have never installed any before. im not tooting my own horn, im just amazed how much money i saved.  [waiting]



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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 05, 2015, 07:31:07 AM
Don't forget to tape all your joints with HVAC joint tape.  Most DIY'r usually don't and when they do they try to use Duck tape which is a no.no.  Looking good.  Professional looking install.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on September 05, 2015, 07:37:11 AM
Thanks John, I was using brush on sealer, should I do both?
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 05, 2015, 10:30:38 AM
Thanks John, I was using brush on sealer, should I do both?

Not sure but I have seen both used.  Are both needed ???.  Main thing is to secure your joints with a screw because neither protect the joint from coming loose.  Here is a good article on sealing HVAC.

http://www.greenbuildingadvisor.com/blogs/dept/musings/sealing-ducts-what-s-better-tape-or-mastic
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 02, 2015, 04:45:50 PM
We  have finished the majority of the siding!
im in the process of tieing up loose ends outside before its gets cold.

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MorenoRanch on November 02, 2015, 01:28:27 PM
Hi astidham,

Awesome house!! I was actually trying to message you but it wont let me for some reason.  I had a few questions.  Perhaps you can message me?  I just moved to OKC 6 months now.  Thanks.

Michael
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 03, 2015, 05:35:24 AM
I sent you a pm Michael.
you can also ask the questions on this board..

Todd
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 19, 2016, 06:17:11 PM
Been a while since I have posted.  I found a pendant light for the entry of the addition.
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My wife and I renovated the light. Really just cleaned and painted it.

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The electrical is done less the downstairs bath recepts, and we have stared covering walls, here is the entry
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: pmichelsen on February 20, 2016, 08:02:53 AM
Amazing how much better that light looks with a little elbow grease and paint.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 22, 2016, 07:36:14 PM
Amazing how much better that light looks with a little elbow grease and paint.
thanks,  we used oil based to stick to the brass, it has a pretty harsh oder when using it.
It was a good find for 30 dollars
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 05, 2016, 06:02:27 PM
Got a new toy... hopefully I will have some wall covering pretty soon. Going through the learning curve right now. Cuts nicely.  Did some diy upgrades, ready to cut some cedar.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: pmichelsen on April 06, 2016, 05:28:20 AM
Beautiful color, all of these mills are making me jealous.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 06, 2016, 03:57:50 PM
Thanks, you might as well get one..lol
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Adam Roby on April 06, 2016, 04:04:32 PM
That is some beautiful wood... would make really nice siding. 
Wonder if it keeps the color, lightens or darkens... maybe just oiled to help protect the natural color.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on April 07, 2016, 04:47:06 AM
Thanks Adam,
The wood keeps the color pretty well finished. Unfinished in the sun, you can see a change in color in minutes.
I had a few 1x4s I cut on the bed of the truck the other day, when I moved them into the barn the side facing the sun looked almost brown, where the bottom side was very red.
the tree is aromatic red cedar.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: ajbremer on April 09, 2016, 05:14:55 AM
Hi Todd!

Man, you are building all the time. It's been a long time (too long) since I've checked out your thread - you
never stop dude! You sure do it right. I also looked back and saw your water tank and system, I'd like to learn
more about that. I just have to stop by some day.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 27, 2016, 05:12:04 PM
I have been away for a while, still not done with the cabin yet.. I have started another project, a walipini greenhouse, also known as a pit greenhouse.
After berming  the sides and north side, it's about 10
' of depth on the north, and 8 foot on the south.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: OlJarhead on October 28, 2016, 03:16:53 PM
How's the mill?  Lots of fun isn't it :)  Sawdust sticks in the veins...don't say I didn't warn ya! ha!

Lovin' the green house too!  Have looked at those for some time and that design is great for northern climes
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on October 29, 2016, 06:07:54 AM
haven't got to play with the mill much lately, but I will be using it soon....
you did warn me.. I love it! I have cut several cedars!!!
im currently growing tomato's, okra, and bell peppers in the greenhouse, with the hope that winter wont kill them off...
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 16, 2016, 07:51:46 PM
I am considering back filling around the foundation with dirt. I am going to frame between the post, and sheath above the concrete pillars to have a backfill structure.  Any suggestions about doing this? I'm unsure about the best way to protect the sheathed portion other than house wrap or plastic,  and will this cause any insect issue that I could prepare for?
Thanks, Todd

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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 16, 2017, 10:06:01 AM
https://youtu.be/Z6_s0u6UvhY (https://youtu.be/Z6_s0u6UvhY)
Here is a little video on my underground greenhouse
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on March 17, 2017, 02:46:46 AM
That is amazing  [cool]
Our above ground high tunnel survived the 10 degree snap here with greens and such (7 lbs of spinach this week!) but tomatoes are a long way off, very cool. What zone are you in? Keep posting how it does, this is interesting and we sure have the hills.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 17, 2017, 03:19:51 AM
Thanks Don. I'm in zone 7a, but we have several below freezing days here.
With the depth, the soil has stayed pretty warm. I plan on doing 1 video a week. I will keep you posted. I would like to see your high tunnel
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on March 17, 2017, 04:32:16 AM
I'll take the camera down in a little bit. we're in 6a, it was about 23 last night so we are running a double layer of row cover inside the house to keep the daily ground warmth close to the plants. As soon as the sun breaks out of the morning cover and hits I'll uncover and then begin venting the house when it is about 40 outside, it'll get up into the 70's pretty quick, well above that if unvented, calm and bright... the spinach began bolting because we let it get too warm during one of those daytime warm spells. We've also been harvesting winter pea shoots from the cover crop in the garden, taste like peas, just an unexpected bonus from a cover crop.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 17, 2017, 04:47:26 AM
This next winter I'm going to use row cover to keep moisture off the tomatoes. . I'm also going to  change the roof film to a inflated IR film to stop the raining inside..
Your tunnel gets quite warm. There is a guy from the Sam Nobel foundation named Steve Upson who is a high tunnel expert, who has wrote quite a bit on tunnel greenhouses, I stay in contact with him, he has talked to me about building one.. I need one to keep insects at bay.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on March 17, 2017, 03:33:29 PM
Whoops, the day got away, plugged in the camera and it took longer to cruise and mark a neighbors timber than I thought. I'll get a pic up soon. Ours is one of the NRCS tunnels, worth applying for if you can. Actually the insect thing can go both ways. Aphids have found one row that is going to get pulled, drip tube set into the aisle and the soil flamed with a quick pass with the weed burner to try to get on top of them before they get out of hand. So, they are able to overwinter in there. The season extension makes these well worthwhile though. For tomatoes here, we have late blight problems many years. By being ahead of the season and then closing the tunnel at night and keeping the dew off, the spores of course land everywhere, but it is hard for them to do as much as fast without water on the plant. Out in the field you can see them turn to mush in a day or so. Ours were planted a couple of weeks ago and are under lights here in the house as are peppers, more greens, well I think there's 24 flats of stuff down there now getting ready for spring.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 17, 2017, 04:54:29 PM
Thanks Don, I look forward to seeing it.
The raining on mine inside when the outside was below freezing left black spots on some of the leaves, so I cut those branches off, and the plants continued to grow pretty well. I did notice when I had several buckets of water inside that the morning temperature was a bit warmer than without them. I had a 2ater snake living in the this winter also.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Don_P on March 20, 2017, 05:26:53 PM
This was taken this morning, we were mid 20's last night but didn't need to cover. The hoops over the beds are just 1" poly water line and then the white in the aisles is a double layer of remay for cold nites. We've... ummm She's been harvesting so it looks pretty beaver chewed but they do produce. We hit the mid 60's today and I opened everything for several hours. Yes, arches thrust, look at that right wall, I've got work to do.
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I've been helping a friend up the road, they are having their 1820's log barn repaired. Look at what is under the side shed. His mother knew the local man that made it back in the day, she is close to 90 and still drives everywhere, she is also quite a historian, we got to talking about a couple of old local water powered mills and she remembered quite a few details about them.
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Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 21, 2017, 09:10:36 AM
Looks to be a really big greenhouse.  I like it. All the plants look really happy.

I hope when your restoration project starts you will post pictures. It's rare that you get the history behind items locally made.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on March 23, 2017, 09:02:09 AM
Here is a YouTube video I made on compostable seed pots.
Made from newspaper
https://youtu.be/nfn_WIxEPaI
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: Rys on March 23, 2017, 11:52:43 AM
 [cool]

What a neat idea!
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 10, 2019, 09:13:20 AM
Hello Countryplans family.
It's been a while since I have posted.
When photo bucket ate all my photos I wasnt sure how to recover.
For the future,  I will probably just use YouTube for posting.
My cabin build is still not complete, and I will be rebuilding the underground greenhouse this spring, and will be posting soon..
Todd
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: MountainDon on February 10, 2019, 10:26:49 AM
IF you left the photobucket account sit there with the photos, PB has now taken the step to allow the images to show on forums once again, albeit with a PB watermark in the lower left corner. Big enough watermark but still good enough to view for most purposes here.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on February 10, 2019, 10:40:19 AM
Thanks Don,
I'm still a free membership holder.
I would still like to get the pictures copied and moved eventually, 
Good to hear from you.  I've really missed this place.
Title: Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
Post by: astidham on November 01, 2019, 11:36:06 AM
Hello  Everybody, I know it's been a long time since I've posted. My build looks different since the last time i posted, on the inside anyway, however I'm still not done. Everyday life  Has kept us really  Busy. I now have 6 children,  And my oldest children stay pretty busy singing and playing instruments at nursing homes, Churches, And a local gospel  Opry. Our underground Greenhouse flooded almost all summer, So I have decided to fill it in later on this Winter. We finally had a heat and air system put in the house, The one we put in has a really good heat Pump, really efficient.  Almost all the walls and the addition are finished with pine, Similar to the cabin. We just lack ceilings and a lot of trim, And flooring and the new living Room. Other than that always been pretty well.
 Attached below is my 3 oldest girls playing Christmas Calypso.

https://youtu.be/9bEhPZNej3c

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