been saying this for years!

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Homegrown Tomatoes

The problem here is not that children are breastfed, but rather that too many of them are sitting on their butts in front of the TV or computer and aren't getting out in the sun like they should be.  Kids are solar powered (and so are some of us grownups!) and people need to quit fearing the sun and sweat and mosquitoes and whatever else keeps kids indoors and plugged in instead of out running around in the sunshine!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080602/hl_nm/rickets_vitamin_dc;_ylt=AqdK71ca2YZ2__V9ruXDzOBa24cA

And for the record, yes, I even take the baby out in the sun, though usually early in the morning or late in the afternoon.  The doctor at her one week checkup yesterday was telling me, "Now, she's too young for sunscreen and it can be toxic to her as little as she is, so for now, you just need to avoid getting her in the sun and...."  at that point my mind drifted off elsewhere.  For Pete's sake, can't she see the color of my kids' skin?  Or mine, for that matter?  They were all born with that coppertone glow, and I think for us, the sun does us far more good than harm. As soon as we moved back to Oklahoma, I began feeling better, and I think it is strongly linked to the vitamin D deficiency up north caused by a lack of sunshine.  My oldest quit being so moody (she was acting like a 13-year-old when we were in Wisconsin... crying at the drop of a hat and getting mad for no reason.)  So, take yer vitamins and get out and enjoy the sunshine!

glenn kangiser

The world was a different place before everyone became a doctor and started doing studies.

Glad all is well, Homey. :)
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Homegrown Tomatoes

Today it is 96 degrees and windy.  I kicked the girls out to go play and water the dogs.  They're out there, covered head to toe in red clay and have the sprinkler going.  Boy are they a mess.

ScottA

I firmly belive that mud is good for kids and so is sunshine.

Sassy

When I lived in Washington state, any day that had a break in the rain saw my boys outside - I have pictures of them covered from head to toe in black dirt...  they had fun, though  :)
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Redoverfarm

There was some medical information put out that kids are kept too clean.  With anti-bacterial soaps and the like that there bodies never have a chance to develope their own immune system.  They are prone to ever little virus known to man.  That is not the case with my kids.  Caught the youngest girl in the pig pen without any shoes the other day.  In fact now that summer is finally here I can't keep shoes on her feet. The boy on the other hand is getting into the intrest of the opposite sex so you don't have to worry about him being dirty. 

Homegrown Tomatoes

Quote from: Redoverfarm on June 04, 2008, 06:17:41 PM
There was some medical information put out that kids are kept too clean.  With anti-bacterial soaps and the like that there bodies never have a chance to develope their own immune system.  They are prone to ever little virus known to man.  That is not the case with my kids.  Caught the youngest girl in the pig pen without any shoes the other day.  In fact now that summer is finally here I can't keep shoes on her feet. The boy on the other hand is getting into the intrest of the opposite sex so you don't have to worry about him being dirty. 

I really think that's true... my sister is a germ-phobe and her kids are constantly sick.  The little one is the same age as my oldest and has been on antibiotics for one little bug or another more or less most of her life.  DD, on the other hand has had exactly one ear infection in her life.  Little one has never been really sick, other than a couple of 24-hour bugs.  My kids play in the dirt, share food (and have been known to share with the dog, though I don't condone it), and we don't use anti-bacterial soap or hand sanitizer either.

Another note along the same line... I read an article about a washer from samsung that uses nanotechnology to kill bacteria in your clothing, and the thought occurred to me why would I want anti-bacterial clothes??  Seriously, unless you worked in a ward of typhoid and TB patients (or a commercial chicken farm) why would you worry about bacteria on your clothes?  Furthermore, it'd  have to be a serious bacterial issue in order to pay what they want you to pay for one of those things, AND to risk potential side effects of untested nanoparticles, which are scary in that it would be nothing for them to penetrate your skin. d*

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Heather

I couldn't agree more. Sunshine, mud, germs (gasp), and nice balance of work and free time
keeps mine healthy. And by free time, I do not mean time spent sitting in front of the
television or pc, but time spent finding ways to get dirty, germ-y and sweaty. ;D


Sassy

Re the article Glenn posted - there was just an article on that in one of my nursing magazines, the CDC is studying it & other research is being done... 
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glenn kangiser

Mud wrestling must be a healthy sport then.
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considerations

Even with all those antibacterial soaps and cleaners, we still live covered, inside and out, with all kinds of tiny creatures.  I have a sister who would barf if I showed her the proof.

I agree that an immune system needs to be exercised, just like the body and the brain.

Use it or lose it.

Heather

Glenn, Sassy, anyone that might know  ;D

I looked at the link Glenn posted and have read some about nanotechnology
before, but I'm unsure how do you know if a product contains it? I saw a product
list which was everything from PC parts to socks to sunscreen to kitchen utensils,
including the ridiculous washing machine already mentioned. I don't buy antibacterial
products, but this seems to be in more than just those products. How can you tell?

glenn kangiser

Possibly when things start growing out of your skin.

Unless they declare it it, would be  impossible to know unless you keep up with the news on it-- then it's hard to tell what to believe-  just have to weigh as much of the facts as you can find and investigate the unsure stuff.
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glenn kangiser

Another thought -- bacteria being killed in our clothing by a nano-particle washing machine. 

Are these nano-particles educated?  I hope they have at least a PHd because I would like them to stop killing when they got to the bacteria either on me or in me -- or do they know that I am not a bacteria--- this is some scary stuff. 

There is a very influential group out there with more money than the world has who are very interested in population control.  They are getting squeezed by the little useless eaters of which I am a proud member.. 

What better way to remove a few than to put little assassins in their underwears? hmm [crz]
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glenn kangiser

Here we go...

QuoteIn a major reversal, although more of a symbolic gesture, earlier last year the U.S. EPA has determined that clothes washing machines that use silver ions as a disinfectant will have to be registered as a pesticide (The first federal restrictions on nanotechnology could be coming soon). The lack of regulation has even led to a dramatic demand from activist groups to completely ban the sale of nanosilver products (Groups file legal action for EPA to stop sale of 200+ nanosilver products).

For once I agree with something they have done.

://www.nanowerk.com/spotlight/spotid%3D5966.php

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glenn kangiser

Interesting that nearly all the Google ads on the above site are selling things the article is against.
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Homegrown Tomatoes

The way I understand it, FDA and EPA and even USDA can't really regulate nanotech because it isn't food, drug, or ag product, and not enough is known about it to regulate it as an environmental hazard.  Who thought it was a good idea to mess with particles so small that they can easily infiltrate cells, anyway?!

glenn kangiser

Monsanto for one - franken stuff forced on much of the world - Iraq has been forced to not plant their own saved seed and plant Monsanto Frankenseeds. Part of the population control program I asume.

- don't know about nano.
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muldoon

not that I needed confirmation, but this was on cbs evening news about how sunshine / vitamin D lowers heart attack risks in a 10 year study.  http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/06/09/eveningnews/main4167206.shtml

While I know I simply feel better when I get a good supply of sun during the week I also wonder about the other sides to this study.  I would think that the type of people who do get more sun also would be doing more activities, getting more exercise, drinking more water, and generally sleeping better at night.  All of which would lead to a healthier life ..  certainly a happier life. 

I also agree with everyone else in this thread about the negatives of monsanto and nanotech, and nothing but great things to say about mud and dirt.  Is there anything out there that they cant just get completely wrong? 


glenn kangiser

I agree with the needing sunshine -- I was always gloomy in the rainy cloudy coast weather -- look at me now in the warm California sun  -- Mr Sunshine. :)
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Homegrown Tomatoes

I'm the same way... especially during the winter when we were in WI.  It was just horribly depressing.  I always felt bad for my older daughter too because she would sit in the window looking out at the clouds and snow and would actually cry and ask if we could "move to summer now"? 

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considerations

Ok, I'm the wierdo.  I love the rain, its a rejuvenation. It cleans and feeds.......and everything smells so sharp and fresh after a good storm....

I just get cranky when something I need/want to do is out in it, and its raining too hard to make getting the project done feasibily. 

I'll work in a drizzle, and for short hops in a shower.  But when it's really raining, well, not.

I do not do well in dry hot places.  My skin and the little webs between my toes and fingers start to dry and crack.  Gollum!

Sassy

#24
just an update...  The CDC is investigating this along with Kaiser Permanente...

Quote from: glenn kangiser on June 04, 2008, 09:24:28 PM
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/morgdat1.htm

Nano reading for you.



Agrobacterium & Morgellons Disease, A GM Connection?


by Dr. Mae-Wan Ho and Prof. Joe Cummins

Global Research, August 20, 2008

Preliminary findings suggest a link between Morgellons Disease and Agrobacterium, a soil bacterium extensively manipulated and used in making GM crops; has genetic engineering created a new epidemic?

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CDC launch investigation on Morgellons' Disease

The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) in the United States announced the launch of an investigation on 'Morgellons Disease' in January 2008 [1], after receiving thousands of complaints from people with this bewildering condition, which it describes as follows [2]: "Persons who suffer from this unexplained skin condition report a range of cutaneous (skin) symptoms including crawling, biting and stinging sensations; granules, threads, fibers, or black speck-like materials on or beneath the skin, and/or skin lesions (e.g., rashes or sores). In addition to skin manifestations, some sufferers also report fatigue, mental confusion, short term memory loss, joint pain, and changes in visions."

Morgellons Disease first became known in 2001, when Mary Leitao created a web site describing the illness in her young son, which she named after a 17th century medical study in France describing similar symptoms [3]. Until then, people with Morgellons Disease have been diagnosed as cases of "delusional parasitosis", in which the symptoms are deemed entirely imaginary, and lesions allegedly due to self-inflicted wounds.

Indeed, the debate over Morgellons Disease has continued in the pages of medical and scientific journals right up to the CDC's announcement [4-7]

Dr. Michele Pearson, principal investigator for the CDC said [1] that the primary goals of the study are "to learn more about who may be affected with this condition, the symptoms they experience and to look for clues about factors that might contribute to the condition," adding that the condition is "complex", and "may be due to multiple factors."

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