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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #150 on: November 08, 2010, 11:53:25 AM »
other side fascia and rake trim installed, just the ridge cap left!

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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #151 on: November 08, 2010, 12:13:42 PM »
wow son you did an awesome job on this roof and outside work,. i am very proud of you natalie said she was very impresses

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« Reply #152 on: November 08, 2010, 01:29:19 PM »
Thanks Dad
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« Reply #153 on: November 08, 2010, 01:45:20 PM »
Looking nice!

Are you going to build a deck off the area where the large door opening is?

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« Reply #154 on: November 08, 2010, 01:52:23 PM »
Looking nice!

Are you going to build a deck off the area where the large door opening is?
Yes dug, I am going to cover and deck the door side and the two sides opposite!
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« Reply #155 on: November 09, 2010, 11:01:31 AM »
Roof is Finished!!!!!
What a great feeling!


The roof and my shop are both supposed to be rustic red  ??? somehow I just don't see it.
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« Reply #156 on: November 09, 2010, 11:28:58 AM »
Good job astidham.  Must feel good to have a waterproof roof.  Are you planning to get the siding material on, if so what did you decide on?  Or maybe you are now moving onto the inside. ;D

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« Reply #157 on: November 09, 2010, 11:43:12 AM »
Thanks Redoverfarm
T1-11 siding first, I plan on priming, painting then installing!
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« Reply #158 on: November 09, 2010, 12:19:45 PM »
Looking pretty nice.  :) Congratulations on the roof.

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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #159 on: November 09, 2010, 12:28:32 PM »

T1-11 siding first, I plan on priming, painting then installing!

Painting or staining one side of plywood before installation may be a bad idea. Sometimes the same can be said for boards. When one side is moistened (paint/stain) and allowed to dry the result will be warped panels. You may be able to get it all laid flat and nailed down but it may make for added difficulty. Differential drying is what happens to sometimes make the plywood sheets come pre warped from the store/yard.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn’t mean it is good design.

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« Reply #160 on: November 09, 2010, 04:57:22 PM »

T1-11 siding first, I plan on priming, painting then installing!

Painting or staining one side of plywood before installation may be a bad idea. Sometimes the same can be said for boards. When one side is moistened (paint/stain) and allowed to dry the result will be warped panels. You may be able to get it all laid flat and nailed down but it may make for added difficulty. Differential drying is what happens to sometimes make the plywood sheets come pre warped from the store/yard.
I should install first then paint MountainDon?
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« Reply #161 on: November 09, 2010, 05:04:42 PM »
I avoid T1-11 like the plague. I used it on an outbuilding a few years ago. It was very costly to paint (soaked up alot of paint). After only 4 years the bottom edge is seperating. It already needs to be repainted in those areas.

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« Reply #162 on: November 09, 2010, 05:09:31 PM »
I avoid T1-11 like the plague. I used it on an outbuilding a few years ago. It was very costly to paint (soaked up alot of paint). After only 4 years the bottom edge is seperating. It already needs to be repainted in those areas.
ScottA, thanks for the info, unfortunately I already bought 5/8 T&G plywood T1-11.
on the up-side i got it for $15.00 a sheet.
Do you think if I paint it a couple of years consecutive, it will last?
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« Reply #163 on: November 09, 2010, 05:14:17 PM »
Yes, install first.

How far above ground is the bottom of the sheet? Protect it against ground splash. Gutters help.
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« Reply #164 on: November 09, 2010, 05:20:01 PM »
Yes, install first.

How far above ground is the bottom of the sheet? Protect it against ground splash. Gutters help.
Minimum 2.5 feet
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« Reply #165 on: November 09, 2010, 06:21:23 PM »
If you keep the spash off it may do better. I'd pay careful attention to sealing that bottom edge really well. Maybe put some expensive acrylic enamel on it before you paint.

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« Reply #166 on: November 10, 2010, 03:42:57 AM »
Depending on the thickness of your T-111, you may be able to pick up some vinyl J-Channel that will cap the bottom edge.  I sheathed my place with 3/4" (yeah, I know!) and had some trim metal left over and had a guy put it in the brake and bend a J, 2" on the back and 1" on the front.  A narrow crown staple will hold it nicely and you can either nail it to the sill, or directly to the T-111.  I stapled it to the sill in a bed of silicone and kept the sheathing off the bottom about 3/8" of an inch. If I was capping T-111, I would use stainless staples.
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #167 on: November 10, 2010, 06:06:12 AM »
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cap the bottom edge.
??? not a good idea, IMO. Water will find its way into that and be more trouble than if left alone. Also do not rest the bottom edge of the sheet on anything. There should be a gap to prevent water from bridging and wicking up into the sheet. That's especially important if you have one sheet above the other on a wall. There are z-strips available that should be used in that case.
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« Reply #168 on: November 10, 2010, 04:51:10 PM »
I agree with that. I have pretty much the same opinion regarding paint in many applications. Finishes that form a film work great as long as the film is intact. when the film cracks or if water gets in behind the film it is a composting bag. a drop of water that gets behind a film is converted to several cubic feet of vapor that is trying to leave once it warms up. If it can't get out the moisture content of the siding rises. I prefer finishes like stains that repel liquid water but allow water vapor to get back out. I've got 25 year old T1-11 on a shed here that has been motor oiled twice I think (not that I'm suggesting that), still in good shape. I had always planned to just use that as a temporary sheathing and cover it with another siding later.

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« Reply #169 on: November 10, 2010, 05:05:15 PM »
I agree with that. I have pretty much the same opinion regarding paint in many applications. Finishes that form a film work great as long as the film is intact. when the film cracks or if water gets in behind the film it is a composting bag. a drop of water that gets behind a film is converted to several cubic feet of vapor that is trying to leave once it warms up. If it can't get out the moisture content of the siding rises. I prefer finishes like stains that repel liquid water but allow water vapor to get back out. I've got 25 year old T1-11 on a shed here that has been motor oiled twice I think (not that I'm suggesting that), still in good shape. I had always planned to just use that as a temporary sheathing and cover it with another siding later.
Don_P, who makes this type of stain and where could i get it?
how often would you think it would need re applied?
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Re: OKLAHOMA 20X30 SINGLE STORY
« Reply #170 on: November 10, 2010, 05:26:37 PM »
Used motor oil! Killer idea.

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« Reply #171 on: November 10, 2010, 05:27:07 PM »
There are a lot of choices but I'm not sure what the best would be. I used a solid color stain on my T1-11 sheathed tool shed and it is holding up well after 3+ years. It goes on like paint but as Don stated doesn't form a top film.

Like I said, lot's of options and some are probably better than others but I second the motion for stain over paint on the T1-11. The rough surface soaks up a lot so I diluted mine a bit, seemed to work well.

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« Reply #172 on: November 10, 2010, 05:32:11 PM »
There are a lot of choices but I'm not sure what the best would be. I used a solid color stain on my T1-11 sheathed tool shed and it is holding up well after 3+ years. It goes on like paint but as Don stated doesn't form a top film.

Like I said, lot's of options and some are probably better than others but I second the motion for stain over paint on the T1-11. The rough surface soaks up a lot so I diluted mine a bit, seemed to work well.
Thanks dug.
my wife and I want the look of wood but was afraid it may not hold up.
Is the stain also weather resistant?
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« Reply #173 on: November 10, 2010, 05:45:11 PM »
They are weather resistant. There are oil based and water based versions, most would say the oil based are better but I used a water based product on mine. I'm a real numbskull when it comes to finishes so maybe someone else can make a recommendation. There is also everything from clear to solid stains. A semi solid stain, for example, would show some grain but cover a bit more like paint. I think the solid tones are more UV resistant, as opposed to the clear ones.

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« Reply #174 on: November 10, 2010, 06:50:09 PM »
Thanks dug.
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