What Your Government Has Done For You Today

[glenn kangiser]

National Debt Grows $1 Million a Minute
http://www.truthout.org/docs_2006/120307J.shtml
The Associated Press reports: "like a ticking time bomb, the national debt is an explosion waiting to happen. It's expanding by about $1.4 billion a day - or nearly $1 million a minute. What's that mean to you? It means almost $30,000 in debt for each man, woman, child and infant in the United States."

[williet]

So, explain to me how anyone can honestly defend George W Bush today? Are Americans really that stupid?

[glenn kangiser]

It is un-freaking believable, but I know some who are or they are afraid to look and they get totally pi$$ed when you try to tell them the truth. 

They do not understand that true patriotism is caring enough for your country to want to see the leadership changed when it is the leaders who are destroying what made this country great.  It is by not going along with criminal leaders that you prove that you love your country.

I guess fear and inability to admit that the person they voted for is leading our country down the path to destruction causes their reaction.  They feel that they just couldn't have made the wrong choice (the deck was stacked - no right choice) plus Dubya is claiming God is leading him -- they love that -- Why can't they see he is lying.hmm

[williet]

Gosh Glenn...you mean a patriot isn't someone who just goes along with the leadership...
like say....SHEEPLE?

[glenn kangiser]

Probably my concept, eh?hmm

[Redoverfarm]

ANYONE WANT A FREE GENERATOR

Well the pentagon has lost 12,000 generators in Iraq that belong to me, you, us and every other tax payer.  Along with those there is a Billion dollar worth of equipment that has vanished.  I realize Iraq is a big country but what there is 140,000 troops more or less.  That is not even the amount of people in a large city in the states and they loose a billion dollars worth of equipment which included 6 tank retrievers, self propelled granade launchers. rifles and the like.  If I was in the army and in Iraq I wouldn't want to be in logistics now.

[glenn kangiser]

Typical black market sales ripoff.  Someone (likely group)  in the military is feathering their nest and figured out a way to do it without (likely) getting caught.  Could be arranged before it even gets to Iraq and sent somewhere else.

Note that the stuff is possibly being used against our guys somewhere too.

Another time stuff like this was going on was the 80's with Oliver North and the guns for drugs Iran/Contra thing.  Don't fool yourself into thinking things have changed.  They just know how to cover their tracks better.

[Sassy]

Embattled State Department inspector general resigns
By Warren P. Strobel | McClatchy Newspapers

    * Posted on Friday, December 7, 2007

    WASHINGTON — Embattled State Department Inspector General Howard Krongard submitted his resignation Friday, forced out for allegedly impeding ongoing criminal investigations into the construction of a new, $740 million U.S. Embassy in Baghdad and security firm Blackwater Worldwide.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/22736.html

[glenn kangiser]

It was interesting seeing him lying on a video, and his brother was the one took out put options on airline stock (made money off of it dropping) just before 9-11.  He had inside information.  Google Buzzy Krongard for more info.

[Sassy]

WILL U.N. HAVE JURISDICTION OVER ALL PRIVATE PROPERTY?
Derry Brownfield
December 28, 2007
NewsWithViews.com

H.R. 2421, "Clean Water Restoration Act of 2007" is due to be marked up for a vote in the US House sometime this fall. According to the bill, water is a unique and precious resource that is necessary to sustain human life and the life of animals and plants. This bill will protect intrastate waters and "OTHER WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES." "OTHER WATERS" are defined in the legislation as:

"All waters subject to the ebb and flow of the tide, the territorial seas, and all interstate and intrastate waters and their tributaries, including lakes, rivers, streams (including intermittent streams), mudflats, sandflats, wetlands, sloughs, prairie potholes, wet meadows, playa lakes, natural ponds, and all impoundments of the foregoing, to the fullest extent that these waters, or activities affecting these waters, are subject to the legislative power of Congress under the Constitution." (Playa lakes are dry lake beds usually found in a desert basin.)

This new definition of "WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES" strikes out all mention of the word "navigable." Up until now, if water is not navigable it is the property of the owner of the land on which the water is located. Webster's Classic Dictionary defines navigable as water sufficiently deep and wide enough to allow ships to pass. A farm pond, a manmade lake, sink holes, mudflats and all standing water was private property. If a farmer or rancher had a creek running through his land, if it was not navigable, it was his to use as he pleased. This bill is not about clean water; it's about restricting the use of all land, including private property by redefining "WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES."

Then there is the "LAW OF THE SEA TREATY." December 10, 1982 the United Nations held a convention on the Law of the Sea. An International Agreement resulted from the third United Nations Convention on the Law of the Sea that took place from 1973 through 1982. The Law of the Sea Convention is a set of rules for the use of the world's oceans, which cover 70 percent of the earth's surface. The convention was concluded in 1982 and to date 154 countries and the European Community have joined. The United States did not and so far has not joined because it claims this treaty is unfavorable to America's economy and security. Ronald Reagan was President in 1982 and he not only refused to sign the treaty, he went so far as to fire the individuals who encouraged him to sign. President Clinton signed the treaty soon after taking office in 1993 but the Senate wouldn't ratify it. On May 16, 2007, President Bush announced that he had urged the Senate to ratify the treaty.

http://www.newswithviews.com/brownfield/brownfield60.htm

[MountainDon]

This new definition of "WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES" strikes out all mention of the word "navigable." .......... If a farmer or rancher had a creek running through his land, if it was not navigable, it was his to use as he pleased.

I'm probably nit picking but that last statement about the farmer is not 100% true. At least not true in the parts of the west I'm familiar with. The land owner can not, say, build a dam and divert all the water for his own agricultural or recreational use, like building a private lake or whatever. Ditto he can't build a dam that causes water to back up onto the neighboring upstream land belonging to someone else.

So while I'm not necessarily for this water act, especially when it gets the UN involved with America's internal affairs, I get ticked off when inaccurate claims are made as a portion of the argument. Inaccuracies cut both ways.

[MountainDon]

This new definition of "WATERS OF THE UNITED STATES" strikes out all mention of the word "navigable." .......... If a farmer or rancher had a creek running through his land, if it was not navigable, it was his to use as he pleased.

I'm probably nit picking but that last statement about the farmer is not 100% true. At least not true in the parts of the west I'm familiar with. The land owner can not, say, build a dam and divert all the water for his own agricultural or recreational use, like building a private lake or whatever. Ditto he can't build a dam that causes water to back up onto the neighboring upstream land belonging to someone else.

So while I'm not necessarily for this water act, especially when it gets the UN involved with America's internal affairs, I get ticked off when inaccurate claims are made as a portion of the argument. Inaccuracies cut both ways.

[Sassy]

Thanks, MtnDon, for the clarification.  I realize we can't do whatever we want with the water - even more so, since the UN Agenda 21 has placed so many restrictions on waterways.  Therefore it is worth keeping an eye on these things. 

Most people still have no idea what the UN Agenda 21 is all about & it was written back in the early 90's IIRC...  to wade through all the double-meanings is difficult enough ie "sustainable development" or "National Heritage" sites etc.  I don't have time to go back to the exact wording... many of our national parks are under the UN - look at their signs out front... 

We need to keep an eye on the "elected" officials as well as the NGO's (non-gov't officials) who are running things.
Another example - North American Union (NAU) & Security & Prosperity Partnership (SPP)  those are still being implemented.  The Mexican trucks are still running in the US although congress or the senate (or possibly both) supposedly pulled the funding - yes, our tax $$$$ are paying all the security, inspections, etc to allow them to undercut the United States citizen truckers...    Anyway, enough of a rant.

Thought that after all the "feel good" of Christmas, I'd go back to some cold, hard stuff that effects all of us as "independent" builders, land & homeowners.     I'm sure everyone just couldn't wait    Happy New Year! 

[ScottA]

We need to keep an eye on the "elected" officials as well as the NGO's (non-gov't officials) who are running things.

You can keep an eye on them all you want and you can even catch them red handed. But...we are dealing with people who are above right and wrong and make the laws to suit their purposes. You can point at them and say, "You are a bad man." and they will simply point out that you are an extremist or conspiricy theroist and poof your words lose all meaning and you lose.

The first step to any solution to the problem is the ending of the system that is. Just thinking such a thing is enough to get you in trouble. How far are you willing to go?

[Sassy]

  This UN Agreement prohibiting nations to use "environmental modification techniques" does that mean weather manipulation? was signed in 1976...  hmmmm, wonder what they knew then & what they were already doing & are doing now?   
http://cuttingedge.org/news/n1196a.html#a1

[ScottA]

I wonder if I could sue for lost sunlight when they make these fake clouds?

[glenn kangiser]

Seems like we should be able to but they don't often own up to any of it.

Once they admitted chaff but that time it was analyzed and had much more than that if I recall correctly.

[williet]

In answer to the original question....

MY government has allowed the economy to crash!

I just heard a news person say "when Americans stop spending ... the whole world suffers"....HOW WE GONNA SPEND WHEN WE HAVE NO JOBS !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Tomorrow will be a day to remember.

[williet]

Well...Today, They're saying "The un regulated FREE MARKET and complete lack of oversight in banking the last 7 or 8 years ... MIGHT have had something to do with the problems we're seeing in the economy"....DA!....YA THINK!!!!!!

The Republican Party and "K" Street has served the country well....AND the Democratic Party allowed them to do it ..... The first group is consumed by GREED and the second has NO backbone.....

WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE??

[glenn kangiser]

I think it's all downhill.

[Sassy]

Has anyone ever really looked at some of the "Executive Orders" signed by US presidents since Roosevelt?  Very interesting...  here's a link  http://www.disastercenter.com/laworder/laworder.htm 

If you Google these, there's lots of links...

[williet]

The whole "Executive Powers" thing is just a way for the President to by-pass the Constitution. Each President has added just a little to the dictatorship powers. I can't think of any, Dem or Rep who has given any "power" back....This idea of a President being OVER the Legislative and Judicial is in complete contrast to the Constitution, but it seems to be what is being taught to many in public schools today.

It's even worse with the idea that the Commander in Chief is at the head of the government. I see more and more young people saying they vote on a President based on their ability to be Commander in Chief and not on their ability to be President. Young people seem to think the main purpose of a President is to head our military.....Am I confused? or is that a "just in case job?"....and NOT the reason for the office.

The argument is made that " as long as we're at war" the President/Commander in Chief can use "extra" powers to "defend" the country and keep us "safe"......SO a President declares war on an IDEA(nothing tangible) and predicts the country will be at "war" for as long as anyone can see in the future.....

My question.....Does this mean the President (Executive Branch) will have all those EXTRA powers ( Presidential Powers Act and Patriot Act) for as long as anyone can see into the future??

The longer a President can use the Presidential Powers Act to invade other countries and the Patriot Act to by-pass the Constitution, the closer to a Dictatorship we'll become.

People who seek out the job of President LIKE power...if they didn't they wouldn't fight so hard for the job. Jefferson and the other Founding Fathers knew this and that's why the powers of the office were limited in the Constitution. ANY additional power is asking for trouble.

Another long post...and maybe off topic......BUT my government has done little for me today except possibly destroy my Nation and my way of life. When an Administration of this country enters into an agreement to form a North American Union, the United States of America will cease to exist.

[glenn kangiser]

I can't argue with any of that, Williet.  All true. 

The presidents gave themselves the power and the other branches, like him, don't care enough about the Constitution to take it back.  Any resistance by the people will be met with massive illegal military style force as demonstrated in Waco and other places.  Believe me - these power mongers don't have our interests at heart.

If the Constitution was still followed most of todays problems would be gone.  That's it.  Period.

[Sassy]

Unfortunately, "they've" been "harmonizing" laws, regulations, codex (what drugs, herbs, vitamins are available to us) since at least 2005 when Bush, Fox (Mexico) & I think it was Calderon (Canada) signed the agreement.  Those who are working out all the harmonizing logistics are NGO's (non-elected Gov't officials) & big corporations - can anyone say FASCISM    So now everyone can feel safe & prosperous with the "Security & Prosperity Partnership"  Ah well, at least I know that this place isn't my permanent home - eternity is much longer than the brief time we live here on earth...    That's why I can study all this stuff & try to warn others that might not know about it...   

[williet]

I am 50 years old and when I was in High School, I was taught what Fascism was. I was taught the difference between Fascism and Communism and Capitalism. I was taught the difference in political schools of thought and economic schools of thought. I was taught WHY politics, economics and RELIGION all must have their seperate places......don't they teach this anymore? I have no children of my own, but my 15 year old niece don't know the difference in a Democrat and a Communist or a Republican and a Fascist. I know these lines can get blurred sometimes....but it IS possible to be a practicing Republican, Pagan, Socialist tree hugger.... hard..but possible.

"No child left behind" must be leaving everybody behind........