Don't forget the 22's

Started by peternap, February 02, 2009, 12:25:32 AM

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peternap

I've been watching people, including myself, stockpile ammunition.

The one thing I see people missing is the lowly 22 LR.

A 22 is a staple cartridge. It can kill small game, large game and people. Look at the great depression. People had at least two guns...a 12 ga and a 22LR.

Walmart has 500 round boxes for less than 20 bucks (about 15 I think) so it's easy to load up  on a few thousand rounds. Cheap insurance!
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glenn kangiser

Good point, Peter.  We talked guns at lunch this afternoon.  Everyone seems to think it is still time to stock up and -- keep your powder dry the US Vet said. 

I think I have around 8000 -- lost count -- maybe I should get more  just in case.
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glenn kangiser

Even if you get overstocked, they are good trading stock for food - money -- labor or just for the safety of your friends and neighbors in case there are problems.  A good investment.

Our neighbors here in the mountains are getting to know each other better - share numbers - info - offers of help when needed - offers of hospitality as the world we knew continues to go to hell in a hand basket.
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Squirl

And 22's are just fun, too.  If you have guests you can go through a few 1000 rounds in a weekend.

Pox Eclipse

I am buying stock in ammo manufacturers.  They are the ones who will benefit from this panic buying.


Squirl

Great Idea Pox.  The areas that are more effected by the housing, banking, and manufacturing collapse tend not to be rural.  These areas are probably the drop in consumer demand.  The areas that collapsed tend to not be the areas were people are purchasing large quantities of firearms and ammunition, fearful of the new administration.  The current buying spree could probably hold up this buying pattern for an extended time.

MountainDon

My three nearby Walmarts are virtually sold out of all ammo, except some shotgun loads.
lots of empty spots in the gun racks too.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

Quote from: MountainDon on February 02, 2009, 03:23:57 PM
My three nearby Walmarts are virtually sold out of all ammo, except some shotgun loads.
lots of empty spots in the gun racks too.

Some are that way here too.  I haven't checked in a couple weeks, but bought $135 worth then.
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Squirl

With all this stockpiling I thought of something.  Does ammunition go bad?  Is there any other enemy other than moisture?

I heard of someone being killed a few years ago by an unexploded civil war ordinance.


peternap

Quote from: Squirl on February 03, 2009, 08:45:49 AM
With all this stockpiling I thought of something.  Does ammunition go bad?  Is there any other enemy other than moisture?

I heard of someone being killed a few years ago by an unexploded civil war ordinance.


Temperature, humidity, sunlight will all degrade components. Use a vacume sealer for long term storage.
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NM_Shooter

Ditto on Peter.  Also temperature swings.  But I have some 50 year old M2 Ball ammunition that is as perky as the day it was made. 

So I wondered about Don's statement and stopped by Walmart last night to check them out.  He ain't kidding!  All the ammo shelves were bare, except for 4 boxes of 300 Win mag, and some misc. shotgun shells.  Unbelievable.  There were a few guns in the rack though.  I thought that odd that they would have more guns than ammo.  I looked at a nifty little .22 lever action marlin.  It almost followed me home.  When I left it was gently weeping in the rack.  I may go back to check on it.

-f-

P.S.  Good inventory on ammo online, but no price deals.  Consider buying from the CMP (www.odcmp.com) if you are qualified.
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John_C

Quote from: NM_Shooter on February 03, 2009, 10:27:21 AM
..... When I left it was gently weeping in the rack.  I may go back to check on it.

If you go back often, handle it gently and say nice things to it, before long it won't be able to resist.

MountainDon

Oh dang it! That's one very sweet gun!!!

What was their price?  NO don't tell me!!!!

Which Walmart?  NO don't tell me that either!!  d* d* d*
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

NM_Shooter

It was sub $300.  Maybe $269 or so?  Walmart by Home Depot near 10000 block of Coors.

:)

-f-

Whoops my bad.  Henry model H001.  $254

http://www.henryrepeating.com/h001_leveraction.cfm
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NM_Shooter

Just read some reviews of the Henry, and they seem to be good.  Downside is that receiver is aluminum, and feed actuator for magazine to chamber is plastic.  But action is supposed to be very, very smooth right out of the box. 

Race you over Don?

-f-
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MountainDon

It's not a Marlin, though.   :( :(
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

MountainDon

I've actually had an eye on a Marlin 983T, 22 Win. Magnum, bolt action...   [waiting]  ???

So far I can't decide if it's a good idea or not.  ???  Ammo's more than 22LR, but still cheap compared to factory load center fire.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

peternap

Quote from: MountainDon on February 03, 2009, 07:58:36 PM
I've actually had an eye on a Marlin 983T, 22 Win. Magnum, bolt action...   [waiting]  ???

So far I can't decide if it's a good idea or not.  ???  Ammo's more than 22LR, but still cheap compared to factory load center fire.

I have a varmint master in 22 mag Don....and I love it. It gives you a lot more range and a lot more power for just a little more in ammo cost.

For things the size of coyotes and up to deer, it give a good margin of power over the 22LR. IMHO, you should have both.

I recommend against hollow points in either. Solids and precise shot placement are essential for anything larger than rabbits.
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

MountainDon

Thanks Peter. I've been telling myself basically the same thing;  the 22LR and Magnum are complementary.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.


NM_Shooter

I love the 22mag... but for cheap, you can still load .223 with bulk winchester bullets for about $0.15 each.
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MountainDon

0.10 for the bullet at midway.     :-\  oh dear.   :-\

0.30 for Wolf ready to go

but the rifle will cost more
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

NM_Shooter

Don, don't tell me you or your son don't have an AR15 between you?  Jeez... that's depressing! 

Ammo is getting to be outrageous in price.  Maybe I'll stand on a corner with a sign that says "Will work for ammo...God Bless".

-f-
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MountainDon

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

Windpower

I have been lusting after a 3 1/2 inch 12 Ga for turkey season

I have read mixed reviews about the Remington auto ....

anybody have any input on this one


I have the worst luck hunting turkeys btw


Show of hands here .... how many dud shot gun shells have you had

pull trigger and click but no bang ...


I'll go first

one in my lifetime

the big old tom looked at the camoflaged dummy saying bad words and ran off

bad luck

won't buy Federal ever again

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