Glass, Plastic, Greenhouse Effect, Global Warming?

[Diggin]

First of all, I like this site and have tremendous respect for so many of you hard-working and ingenious builders. 

This morning, with the coffee, I've been wondering AGAIN ... watching the sun streaming in through our big sliding glass door, warming up the bedroom ...

COULD global warming have anything to do with the tremendous growth in use of glass and plastic in the past 200 years?  Could the "greenhouse effect" that's warming up the world be related at all to ... huge quantities of "greenhouses" being built by people (including glass skyscrapers, glass buildings, glass windows, greenhouses, etc.)?

Greenhouse effect is simply the fact that sunlight comes IN through glass or plastic as HIGH FREQUENCY;  hits something behind the glass or plastic that slows it down ... converts it to HEAT, which is LOWER FREQUENCY ... as low frequency it can no longer go back OUT through the glass (or plastic) and is stuck here on Earth. 

There's been a lot of plastic and glass used increasingly in the past 200 years.

I just thought I'd post this to get some answers from the lot of ya' who prob'ly know a lot more'n me. 

[MountainDon]

  to the forum. Glad you stopped by to post.

My own opinion, and it's only my opinion, is that I doubt that could be a direct cause of global warming. Maybe the power generation required to run the A/C units behind all the glass could have some effect, but even then I am not 100% convinced. As I stated, just my opinion.

[glenn kangiser]

Welcome to the forum.

The more I learn about global warming the more I am convinced that it is natural - and man cannot have as big an effect as nature (Oil from dinosaurs and the world a tropics -- an Ice age??).

That does not stop big business from capitalizing on convincing the sheeple that the world is warming and billions of dollars worth of this that and the other thing must be done to stop it.  That may be part of the billions of dollars worth of artificial cloud cover jets put over much of the world every day.  It doesn't conform to natural vapor trails - Watch as they lay out the grids sometime. 

Called chemtrails by some and a conspiracy theory by others, the gov. doesn't want to talk about it.  I have pix. of the planes forming the grids in our area.  Some say that the artificial cover also holds in the heat -- maybe for big profit -- who knows...yet?

[Sassy]

  We have several threads in off-topics that discuss global warming if you'd care to browse through them - your question is a good one but from what I've read, I'm with Don, don't think it has a whole lot to do with global warming.
I read a couple good articles yesterday I'll post links to...

http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom101.htm

http://en.rian.ru/analysis/20080103/94768732.html

[MountainDon]

Food for thought

http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=3697.msg44430#msg44430

...interesting articles Sassy...

Hmmm....
What can't be cured must be endured. It is wise to accept the natural course of things. We have no reason to panic about allegations that ice in the Arctic Ocean is thawing rapidly and will soon vanish altogether. As it really is, scientists say the Arctic and Antarctic ice shields are growing. Physical and mathematical calculations predict a new Ice Age. It will come in 100,000 years, at the earliest, and will be much worse than the previous. Europe will be ice-bound, with glaciers reaching south of Moscow.

[Redoverfarm]

I for another am not totalling sold on some aspects as they refer to it. But if the scare helps to clean up the air that I breath then I am all for it. I think alot of the time we view things a farsightness and don't think to look down the road for our children, their children and so on. When going to school in the valley of the capital I could not breath for 6 months when we would run in the mournings for all of the chemicals in the air (Home of Bopaul India plant).  When I would go annually it had been cleaned considerably but not eliminated.  But it all boils down to money.  The major companies that pollute can probably clean their emmisions but we are going to have to pay for it by the added cost of utilities and products.  I know let the CEO's pay and they will not need our money.

[benevolance]

The basic math of global warming is simple...

Today as compared to the start of the industrial revolution..There is 30% more carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere... This is a direct result of us burning coal, oil, gas..etc..

As long as we keep digging out carbon from the earth and expelling them in exhaust of fuels be it coal oil or gas...This problem will continue to expound upon itself.

The solution lies in recycling our waste on earth and converting it to carbon we can use.. for example..If we used all the sewage, garbage and industrial waste in the world and converted the carbon into say oil or gas....we would be exchanging carbon for carbon and all unused carbon still in the ground would stay there and out of the atmosphere.

in time we would actually reduce carbon in the air because before it became oil...the cellulose material would absorb carbon...And then it would be converted back into fuel...well mostly...It would consume more carbon as an organism than it would expell as a fuel

This technology already exists only we refuse to use it. Not good for big business...It would be much like when the auto car replaced the horse and buggy...Right now there are a lot of buggy makers doing everything they can to prevent us from switching to motor cars.

But what do I know

[glenn kangiser]

I understand that the increased Carbon Dioxide promotes increased plant growth pretty well negating any effect that the Carbon Dioxide can have on the atmosphere.  Plants eat it.

[Sassy]

I'm more concerned about what all those planes are spraying in our skies to make all the grids that turn into cloud cover - happens everyday - I wake up in the morning to blue skies, then see lots of planes making what most people think are "contrails" but they dissipate within a few minutes, the "chemtrails" they are leaving stay & spread out - I've read they use barium, microscopic aluminum & many other chemicals.  I posted a video a few months back.

I'd also be more worried about HAARP & the electromagnetic pulses into the ionosphere stirring up the plasma - who knows what havoc that is playing...  I've also posted a video on that...  I'll try to find them.

[benevolance]

Glenn

There is a mixed view of increased carbon dioxide in the air... They did a lot of research with trees and plant life recently and found that most plant life does not not grow better or faster with more carbon dioxide... Corn may differ from the norm..

There is no disputing that there is 30% more carbon in the air than there was 400 years ago...Unless you have family that owns a coal mine that is... then you would likely argue it is all scientific babble gabberwocky

[Sassy]

Here's some links...

http://www.freepressinternational.com/

http://www.earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=1&subcatid=5

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2006-06-29-china-rain_x.htm

http://www.willthomas.net/Chemtrails/index.htm

[Diggin]

Wow, I just got taken to another global warming thread(??!) and back to this one!   or maybe my brain is being controlled by electromagnetic rays!  ... seriously, thanks for the links.  I liked this:

But if the scare helps to clean up the air that I breath then I am all for it.

AND, Yep, y'all are reading all the same sorts of stuff I've been reading.  HEARTFELT ... SIGH!! 

Thanks for the welcomes!  I lurk on here sometimes, as we have been considering building a small house on our property for a "guest."  Really interesting set of "effects" you-all have on this forum.  Gotta try some ...//

[glenn kangiser]

Here is a link to some info and more links as to what .gov may be up to -- and things they don't want to talk about.

http://newyorkskywatch.com/climate-engineers-war-profit-survival/

Ocean of plastic -- we have it ...estimated at one to two times the size of Texas.

http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/master.html?http://www.naturalhistorymag.com/1103/1103_feature.html

[Sassy]

Interesting info on Tesla's inventions & weather modification

    Weather Modification
    Philip L. Hoag

Weather modification technology is in use today by both the United States and the Soviet Union. Both the U.S. and Soviet projects involve the manipulation of the ionosphere and the alteration of the earth's magnetic fields. This technology seems to have both localized and global capabilities. Evidence indicates that this technology also has the capability of manipulating human behavior and mood patterns.

Nikola Tesla
All of this seemingly Star Trek-like technology originated from a Serbian immigrant named Nikola Tesla who came to the United States just before the turn of the century. This man, without question, proved to be the greatest scientific genius of this century. Tesla worked with both Westinghouse and Edison during the infancy of electricity and it was actually Tesla who developed alternating current.
Tesla also experimented with electromagnetic flux and studied the earth's gravitational field. During his research he discovered that the ionization of the atmosphere would alter when it was charged by radio wave transmissions in the low frequency range of 10 to 80 hertz. Tesla also discovered that he could cause both positive and negative ionization of the atmosphere by manipulating the radio frequency. Further studies indicated that with positive ionization, people and animals became tired and lethargic and with negative ionization the effect was one of feeling active and energetic.
Another interesting aspect of this technology is the effect which harmonious radio frequencies make when they impact air molecules. The molecules become excited and give off negatively charged electrons which readily combine with hydrogen and oxygen to produce water molecules. But even more profound is the fact that this type of radio wave also carries positively charged ions through the ionosphere into the magnetosphere. The positively charged ions then become trapped in the Van Allen belts, traveling between the Aurora Borealis and the Aurora Australis, right where we coincidentally have holes in the ozone layers.
Freon, the ozone killer, by its nature dissipates quickly. This inherent quality is a contradiction to the concept that a concentration of freon is creating holes in the ozone layers at the North and South Poles. However, when radio waves hit already unstable freon precipitates, they are so reactive that they can not move on and dissipate into the magnetosphere.

As far-fetched as this subject may seem, leaders in the elite global establishment have intimated the existence of this technology and its capabilities. In 1970 Zbigniew Brzezinski published a book titled Between Two Ages. Brzezinski is one of the founding directors of the Trilateral Commission. In this book he said, "Technology will make available, to the leaders of major nations, techniques for conducting secret warfare, of which only a bare minimum of the security forces need be appraised...Technology of weather modification could be employed to produce prolonged periods of drought or storm."

http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~sai/wxwar.html

btw, this article was 1st posted in the early 1990's - before HAARP

[Sassy]

Lots of gov't pdf's you can take a look at here on weather manipulation...

http://homepage.mac.com/carolepellatt/MATRIX/FileSharing255.html