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Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« on: May 06, 2009, 06:36:19 AM »
Opium harvest guarded by US soldiers


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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #1 on: May 06, 2009, 06:44:46 AM »
What is the story that accompanies that photo?
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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #2 on: May 06, 2009, 07:10:41 AM »
Found it....

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html

Presenting that photo along with the topic title "Why our soldiers are in Afghanistan" and the comment "Opium harvest guarded by US soldiers"  is, at best, disingenuous. At worst it is a blatant attempt to cast the USA as taking an active part in the manufacture and distribution of illegal drugs.

The story goes on to state...

For years, the United States and its NATO allies were reluctant to tackle the Afghan drugs trade as a military mission, fearing it would drag their troops into conflict with dangerous drug lords and ordinary Afghans

But as evidence has mounted that the trade provides major funding to the Taliban and other insurgents, Washington and some allies have become more willing to take on the problem

Last week, Afghan anti-drugs officers burned more than six-and-a-half tons of seized heroin, opium, hashish and drug-manufacturing chemicals worth up to £70 million on the UK market





Obama has ordered an additional 21,000 U.S. soldiers and Marines into Afghanistan this summer, most of whom will deploy in the country's south — the Taliban's heartland and the world's largest opium producing region.

In all there are 13 photos, each with a story line or two.



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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #3 on: May 06, 2009, 08:07:58 AM »
sorry I forgot the link


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/picturegalleries/worldnews/5279303/Opium-harvest-in-Afghanistan.html




"Afghanistan last year produced 7,700 tons of opium, with an export value estimated at £2.7 billion"


that's right, last year Afghanistan produced over 15 MILLION pounds of opium

now this picture for the math challenged  13,000 pounds of a mix of opium, chemicals, hashish, and heroin   

if it was all opium that is roughly 0.08 %

but wow that sure does make a nice big fire picture to make dumbed down folks think the US is really fighting the drug lords, huh

"Last week, Afghan anti-drugs officers burned more than six-and-a-half tons of seized heroin, opium, hashish and drug-manufacturing chemicals worth up to £70 million on the UK market"



 

and for the record there was virtually NO OPIUM grown while the Taliban was running Afganistan

So why are the US soldiers clearly guarding the harvest of the opium ?



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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #4 on: May 06, 2009, 08:48:50 AM »
...and for the record there was virtually NO OPIUM grown while the Taliban was running Afganistan


No argument on that. None whatsoever.  n*  Prior to the Taliban taking power Afghanistan was the world's largest producer as well.

However, the Taliban isn't exactly an exemplary form of government to set as an ideal. I know of many more problems created under the rules of the Taliban government, than good.

If anyone wants to argue that the Taliban style of government is good for the general welfare of Afghanistan, or any other country for that matter, they should have to live as a woman under Taliban law for a time and then report back. .


Both the opium trade and the Taliban are generally bad for people.
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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #5 on: May 06, 2009, 04:56:39 PM »
That was a major reason we had to get rid of the Taliban.  They were bad for the drug trade.  CIA needs Afghan drugs to finance operations and the drugs growing in Afghanistan are grown for the CIA  ...of course we need to guard them.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=MAZ20061209&articleId=4102

http://www.darkgovernment.com/news/marines-bypass-taliban-opium-fields-in-afghanistan/

http://rigorousintuition.blogspot.com/2004/09/oil-is-not-only-drug.html

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Afghanistan could now fairly be described as a 'narco-state' and the U.S. military has played a large role in that nation's illicit evolution. Have we sent our young men to die in Afghanistan to protect or possibly monopolize the opium trade?

I find it curious that Bush sends Border Patrol agents to prison for pursuing Mexican drug smugglers, while also effectively using our military to protect opium production in Afghanistan...Notice a pattern?

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http://www.americanchronicle.com/articles/view/50029

http://www.fromthewilderness.com/free/ciadrugs/index.html
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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2009, 03:40:43 AM »
You're on target Glenn, the coke trade hasn't been netting the CIA enough cash so they needed to branch out.

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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2009, 04:42:16 AM »
You would think that the CIA is making enough money posing as pirates off the coast of Somalia to not have to put in overtime in the drug fields.  Just goes to show you how greedy George Bush is.

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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2009, 05:08:49 AM »
Kidnapping children for pedophile politicians isn't paying off like it used to, so...

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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2009, 06:32:51 AM »
The Bush crime family is pretty well documented but Dubya is only a puppet in the scheme of things.  He can't take all of the credit for himself.  Heck - he couldn't even keep the job flying cocaine from Florida in the National Guard plane.  There has to be something said for higher education. :)

CIA -- has their fingers into everything.

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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #10 on: May 07, 2009, 06:44:03 AM »
 rofl
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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #11 on: May 07, 2009, 06:46:43 AM »
Glenn,

When I read your post all I could think about was the scene in "Blazing Saddles" where Sheriff Bart is asking Mongo about what's going on and Mongo says:

"Mongo only pawn in game of life."

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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #12 on: May 07, 2009, 12:09:12 PM »
The british empire was built on the opium trade. If you think they got out of the business just because it's illegal I have some swamp land to sell you.

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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2009, 01:23:37 PM »
Hey... I'm looking for some swamp land!  How's the gator fishing?
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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2009, 07:57:29 PM »
A few lawmen in our area have died trying to straighten out the drug trade that is tied to the Feds through our state government.  I learned of the second one a few weeks ago.  Its part of what is known as the octopus.  Check out Danny Casolaro and also the investigative reporters story, The Last Circle, and PROMIS software for a few clues.
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Re: Why our soldiers are in Afganistan
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2009, 07:59:02 PM »
Glenn,

When I read your post all I could think about was the scene in "Blazing Saddles" where Sheriff Bart is asking Mongo about what's going on and Mongo says:

"Mongo only pawn in game of life."

Yup.. lots of pawns - even at the visible top.
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