McCain & Obama

[ScottA]

Ever since this business with Russia started I've been trying to figure out what they are up to. Starting to look like an end game since none of it really makes any sense else. World wide financial crash followed by world war is my guess. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in one of the meetings where the masters of the universe lay out their plans to our politicos and hear how they sell armagedon.

[sparks]

15,000 for kindergarten?  Bring on the vouchers!!!

http://pittsburghlive.com/x/valleyindependent/news/s_582247.html?source=rss&feed=30

[glenn kangiser]

Ever since this business with Russia started I've been trying to figure out what they are up to. Starting to look like an end game since none of it really makes any sense else. World wide financial crash followed by world war is my guess. I'd like to be a fly on the wall in one of the meetings where the masters of the universe lay out their plans to our politicos and hear how they sell armagedon.

It appears we want war with Russia too.  We had 2000 trainers in Georgia to help train them and set up the massacre and destruction of several S. Ossetian cities.  Russia just decided they weren't going to allow that to continue and they had the clout to stop it.  Our trainers can't pretend they didn't know what was up.  Crimoney.  That would make them just like the American people. 

War is big money.

The fact that our taxes are being spent so far into the future our children's children will never be able to pay them does not matter.  What matters is that the pockets of the elite are being filled with the profits from our debt and their war machine manufacturing, while they try to rule the world.  The problem is that much of the rest of the world does not see it in the same light.

[glenn kangiser]

OK - The idiot lady has me going now-- She said Iraq was linked to 9/11 when even Bush said Iraq had nothing to do with it.

http://blogs.independent.co.uk/the_campaign_trailers/2008/09/iraq-linked-to.html

Bush says Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11 video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_A77N5WKWM

Go ahead and lie, Sarah.  90% won't check it out and take you at your word.  5% will think you are ignorant but cute enough to ignore it.  5% will see you for the lying politician that you are.

[Squirl]

Yeah glenn.  The coverage of the campaign is getting a little agrivating to me in the past few days.  No one seems to be talking about the issues.  I am used to politicians craftly fudging the truths.  All sides do it.  You have to really look through what they say.  They babble on for hours without saying anything.  They craft positions without taking a stance. They avoid and make excuses for past mistakes.  I'm used to this. 
The McCain straight talk express went off the rails.  I disagreed with a lot of his positions, but I respected him.  He supports many unpopular decisions, such as the voting to give the president the authorization to go to war with iraq, and never backs down.  If he thought it was wrong, he would admit it and move on.  But over the past few days I have heard non-stop about Palin not supporting the "bridge to nowhere".  I have even seen the pictures on her wearing the "no where" Alaska shirt.  She was a stong ardent supporter for years.  I don't agree with her support for it, but understand it.  Politicians stay employed by getting as much money to flow back to their state to provide as many jobs as possible.  Every single politician does this, both parties. 
It is a severe insult to my inteligence to lie directly and think I will believe it.  I live in a "battleground state."  I heard this advertisment over 10 times tonight.  I guess they believe that the more times you tell a lie it will become true. 

[glenn kangiser]

It works for them, because most of the people don't go beyond listening to them and thinking it is true.

Look at 9/11 - 16% or so still believe the official government lies.  That one held up for quite a few years.

Scientific Poll: 84% Reject Official 9/11 Story
Only 16% now believe official fable according to New York Times/CBS News poll
Truth Movement has the huge majority of opinion
How will the Bush Cabal react?

According to the new  New York Times/CBS News poll,  only 16% of Americans think the government is telling the truth about 9/11 and the intelligence prior to the attacks:

"Do you think members of the Bush Administration are telling the truth, are mostly telling the truth but hiding something, or are they mostly lying?

Telling the truth 16%

Hiding something 53%

Mostly lying 28%

Not sure 3%"

The 84% figure mirrors other recent polls on the same issue. A Canadian Poll put the figure at 85%. A CNN poll had the figure at 89%. Over 80% supported the stance of Charlie Sheen when he went public with his opinions on 9/11 as an inside job.

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/poll_only_16_percent_believe_gov_on_911.htm

[glenn kangiser]

Just came across this.

The Obama campaign criticized the McCain campaign for misstatements about Palin's travel: "They said she visited Iraq, but today we learned that she only stopped at the border. Americans are starting to wonder, is there anything the McCain campaign isn't lying about?"

http://www.presstv.ir/detail.aspx?id=69349&sectionid=3510203

Don't get me wrong -- I'm not supporting Osama either.  I hate them all equally.

Anybody want me to do equal time for the other side? hmm

I'd be happy to dig up the trash. 

[apaknad]

you can do the equal time glen. i don't think it is necessary but i wouldn't want you to be accused of being an Oprah. (that brings a disturbing image for a halloween costume to mind). i am voting third party.

[glenn kangiser]

Careful with that mental Picture, Dan.  I have been known to do brain damage in the past.  I'll see what dirt I can scoop up -- maybe tonight.  I really have orders to accomplish something today.

[glenn kangiser]

Palin Rejected by Alaska women bigger than rally for her.

http://mudflats.wordpress.com/2008/09/14/alaska-women-reject-palin-rally-is-huge/

[glenn kangiser]

...and even Osama thinks he's a Muslim...

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/09/08/obama-my-muslim-faith-gaffe-fuels-new-round-of-rumor-busting/

[benevolance]

the SNL palin Hillary skit was priceless

Go look it up and watch it!

[Squirl]

Who cares if he is a Muslim.  What does a person's religion have anything to do with it.  Being Muslim isn't a bad thing.  There are millions of Muslim Americans.  They are still Americans.  They serve in the military, protect this country, pay taxes and participate in government.  This is still the land of freedom of religion.  If he does have Muslim heritage and converts to Christianity, why would anyone question his faith?  This country was founded by people looking for religious freedom from intolerant countries.  I hope we don't go down the path of that ourselves. I don't understand why people are making his religion an issue.

By the way.  I loved the SNL skit.  Tina Fey did one of the best impressions of any candidate so far in this race.  So far I have been disapointed with SNL in this election.  They had the best Bush I, Clinton, and Bush II impersonations, and nothing good for Obama or McCain.

[glenn kangiser]

It doesn't matter to me because so far no choice of anyone suitable to run the country has been or will be offered.  

[desdawg]

I guess they finally realized that they had been upstaged:
http://www.thestreet.com/story/10437455/1/opinion-mccain-obama-talk-wall-street-reform.html?puc=_tscrss
Heaven forbid that Presidential candidates should be involved in current events.

[glenn kangiser]

One doesn't have a clue - the economy is strong -- Go back to sleep McSwine. 

Osama wants to meddle with it.  Just what we need - more politicians fixing things.

Will the federal government please leave the room....

[desdawg]

I think they are fearful of commenting. Doesn't matter what either one says some analyst is going to tear it apart. And both of them have been in the Senate while things got to this point economically. Obama puts the blame on Bush and McCain. But what was he doing for the last eight years. They both mutter inconsequential things and neither one really has much to say.

[glenn kangiser]

"It is better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt."

Mark Twain

[glenn kangiser]

Osama's lost  brother found in Kenya living on $1 per month.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/uselection2008/barackobama/2590614/Barack-Obamas-lost-brother-found-in-Kenya.html

[desdawg]

I have come full circle. I have gone from being undecided to being undecided. Now and again I hear something that sounds good but it get's blown out of the water shortly after that. I think I am with you Glenn. There just isn't a reasonable choice. Option 3, none of the above seems pretty likely. I was looking for that post but I don't remember what thread it was in.

[glenn kangiser]

You have to love these guys.  None of them have a clue...   

OK ...that was a satirical comment...the love part anyway

[Squirl]

Bob Barr was just put on the ballot in my state.  Is he on in anybody elses?

[MountainDon]

What atate would that be?

He is listed on NM I believe.

[Squirl]

Pennsylvania

[John_C]

Bob Barr is from my state of GA.  Good man but no chance.

I'm feeling like I have to vote for McCain. 

Obama in office with a democrat controlled Congress is not something I want to see.  He would have a rubber stamp for many of his hair brained "tax'em high" solutions, and the way left Supreme Court justices he would nominate are too much for me.

A republican in the White House and a democratic controlled Congress....   gridlock is good. The less these clown can actually do, the better.

McCain   ...   the lesser of two evils.   Now there is a Campaign slogan.   Or to steal a line from the movie "Master and Commander"     

"The lesser of two weevils".