roofing question

[PEG688]

I was just pondering making a drawing... and now I snagged a copy of that.

Ponder no longer my friend  We can count on you , all Glenn can think of  / his  mind goes to /  is the gutter when FLASHING is brought up 

And Glenn , I didn't say "A" gutter,  as in rain gutter , I was thinking the side of the road , analogy / example.     I like this new one as well , 

[ScottA]

OK so by looking at Peg's book the roofer told me right. I tried to hire him but he wouldn't work for just beer.

[PEG688]

OK so by looking at Peg's book the roofer told me right. I tried to hire him but he wouldn't work for just beer.

Well he's not much of a roofer then! 

Thats a joke yanno 

[glenn kangiser]

Imagine you took your skill saw and cut through the roof at 90 degrees, PEG -- I just drew a cut that could be applied to any roof pitch.  You guys didn't say you wanted any fancy 3D perspective drawing.

You didn't expect a real good drawing for free did you? hmm

[PEG688]

You didn't expect a real good drawing for free did you? hmm

Yes ! 

[gandalfthegrey]

Glenn?  Your drawing made the top of the list.    Now where did I put that dang list?

[glenn kangiser]

Well -- it illustrated something. hmm

[PEG688]

Well -- it illustrated something. hmm

Ya it did , you can't use flat roofs  details , to show sloped roof details 

I understood the cut view part , but still the roof part needs slope , thats like a torch down detail , except the metal would be on top and torched / heated to seal at the eave / edge.

Good try Glenn your heart was in the right place. I think   

[lockman]

Not tryin to hijack this thread, but Im in the process of installing a metal roof. I've got the eave trim, which goes on before the panels. Then after the panels, Ive got the rake trim that goes on. My question is, should I put down a drip edge on the rake over the underlayment, and under the panels, and then the rake trim also, or just use the rake trim?

[PEG688]

Not tryin to hijack this thread, but Im in the process of installing a metal roof. I've got the eave trim, which goes on before the panels. Then after the panels, Ive got the rake trim that goes on. My question is, should I put down a drip edge on the rake over the underlayment, and under the panels, and then the rake trim also, or just use the rake trim?

No harm in your post that I see.

Most metal roof rake trim is a 90 degree set up and generally quite wide , you'd have issues unless you used a flat 90 degree metal and it would be buried back under that larger rake trim so without seeing your metal and guessing like I did I'd say , No.

[lockman]

Thanks, I didnt think it would be neccesary, but just thought I'd check. I've got the underlayment and the eave trim up. Hopefully it'll stay dry this weekend so I can start puttin the panels on.

[MountainDon]

Just the metal roofing rake, IMO. We had a new metal panel roof installed a couple years ago. The wide metal roofing rake edge is all that's needed; at least that's what my hired roofing company guys did.

The only possible reason I could see for installing a standard drip edge on the rake before doing the metal roof would be if you were expecting long delays in getting the job completed. Then it might save some potential wind damage to the underlayment. 

[glenn kangiser]

Not used in a steel building so the steel roof is the same -- no drip edge because there is nothing to drip- the rake (Gable) trim covers the area.  Condensation should be taken care of by the felt and there shouldn't be much of that with sheathing and felt below.

[ScottA]

After 3 1/2 days of roofing I can safely say that the best advice is to hire a roofer. Oh well, too late now. Back to it.

[MountainDon]

Thank you, Scott. You've reaffirmed my decision in '05 to hire out the re-roofing of our home in the 'burbs.

But I'm pretty sure I'll be doing the cabin myself. 

[Redoverfarm]

Scott what would a contractor charge to do your roof?  Take that amount and when you get the last shingle on divide your time into that amount. That will tell you what you are worth.

[ScottA]

You sure know how to make a guy feel worthless.    On the otherhand I can always imagine the roofer trying to fix a leak under his house in January. 

[Redoverfarm]

Scott I am sure with all the guidance you received at CP combined with your attention to detail that it was probably done better than any contractor would have done. Besides it is the learning process that has it's value.