What Japan Thinks about Airport Body Scanners In U.S.

[Shawn B]

Yep that's right a lot of the world knows that America is becoming a nation of fearful, idiots herded around like sheep.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEeRD26hDDw

[IronRanger]

In all honesty, the Japanese shouldn't laugh.  Kamikaze much?

But, yes, I agree.  Especially about the ones who "believe in freedom".  Funny thing is, they're always in lockstep with government authority first.

We love freedom of religion.  Show us your gay marriage license.

We love freedom of the press.  Give us your camera or Your criticism of America makes you unpatriotic.

I come from a military family.  I've never understood their hatred of government.  Don't they realize they (the military) are a branch of government? 

Nah, we're not "becoming" a nation of idiots, half of us are there.

[glenn kangiser]

Our TSA is a disgrace and I will not allow them the opportunity to run their perverted lustful fingers over my dashing perfect body....

Bite me, TSA....

This was all to keep the sheeple scared after the Bush administration false flag attack assistance on the WTC.  I will not pretend that they are legitimate and will boycott travel until they are gone.

Good illustration of an all too true USA disgrace, Japan.  Thanks for portraying the disgusting monster they have created.

I will not help cover for our corrupt government by offering them any legitimacy. 

Our politicians are profiting from the scanner sales.  Follow the money.

http://www.rense.com/general89/chert.htm 

"Chertoff" translates to "Son of the devil" I have read.

[Pox Eclipse]

I will not pretend that they are legitimate and will boycott travel until they are gone.

Ouch!  That'll teach 'em.

[glenn kangiser]

They are feeling the pain right now....

[NM_Shooter]

Glenn has it right.  Don't fly. 

Air travel is a privilege, not a right.  If someone does not like the idea of the whole body scanners or the ridiculous pat down, then don't fly. 

I have a friend who has a pacemaker implanted, and he has to suffer the hand search every single time.  He has to fly quite a bit for work, and is just resigned to the process. 

We've got shoe bombers, underwear bombers, and folks who are now having explosives implanted into their bodies.  How we'll figure that one out, I don't know. 

Sad thing is that none of these procedures really make us safe against someone determined and knowledgeable. 

[peternap]

I will not pretend that they are legitimate and will boycott travel until they are gone.

Ouch!  That'll teach 'em.

According to the airline industry they're damned concerned that the new body searches are costing them business. You keep flying though POX.

Glenn...here's a You Tube video of a man that said no, turned the video function on his phone on and sent it through the Xray machine.

http://johnnyedge.blogspot.com/2010/11/these-events-took-place-roughly-between.html

[ScottA]

I wonder how people will react when these things are set up at every public building? Nekid body scanners at the football games, at the concerts, train stations, subways...where does it stop? I'll be damned if I'll get on a plane with this barbaric treatment forced on everyone who flies.

[glenn kangiser]

Thx guys.  Glad I'm not the only one refusing the continuing fake security from our governments false flag operations coverup.

Al CIAda is a US created entity.

http://cgiproxy6.appspot.com/u?purl=bG10aC5kZW5pYXJ0LXN1LXNtcmlmbm9jLW5vdG5pbGMteXJhbGxpaC8xMS8wMTAyL21vYy50b3BzZ29sYi5uYWhrLXJpc2FuLy86cHR0aA%3D%3D


"Ms. Clinton accepted that the U.S. had created certain radical outfits and supported terrorists like Osama bin Laden to fight against the erstwhile Soviet Union, but that backing has boomeranged.

"Part of what we are fighting against right now, the United States created. We created the Mujahidin force against the Soviet Union (in Afghanistan). We trained them, we equipped them, we funded them, including somebody named Osama bin Laden. And it didn't work out so well for us," she said."

[NM_Shooter]

Know what we really need? 

A scanner that potential presidents walk through to prove their place of birth.

[glenn kangiser]

From what Larry S. says, BO would opt for the pat down....

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/12/travel.screening/index.html?hpt=T1

More and more people refusing.

Nov 24th - National Opt Out Day...

http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/11/tsa-opt-out-day-now-with-a-superfantastic-new-twist/66545/

[peternap]

Hey POX...looks like Glenn isn't the only person who won't fly. You think it might hurt business a little?

http://blogs.reuters.com/ask/2010/11/12/are-new-security-screenings-affecting-your-decision-to-fly/

Stepped-up security screening at airports in the wake of foiled terrorism plots has provoked an outcry from airline pilots and travelers, including parents of children who say they are too intrusive.

With the busiest holiday travel season nearing, fliers face long security lines and new rigorous patdown checks aimed at discovering hidden explosives. As a result, some travelers are questioning whether to fly at all.

Are you less likely to fly because of stepped-up security procedures such as full-body scans and patdowns?

   * Yes - I will make alternate travel plans to avoid intrusive security scans and patdowns (96%, 56,207 Votes)
   * No - It is a necessary procedure to ensure terror plots are thwarted (2%, 1,443 Votes)
   * Undecided (2%, 803 Votes

Hmmm...
Real People=96%
POX People=2%

[MountainDon]

The proof will be after the holiday.

I believe our government is going about this security all the wrong way. We continue to look for bad "stuff" noit bad people. If we would spend more time doing the unthinkable... that is profiling people as they entered the airport, etc. it would do a lot more good. Borrowing a leaf from the anti-terror threat book that the Israelis have developed would help more than a bunch of expensive machines and invading everyone's body.

[glenn kangiser]

The thing we need to remember here is that the crying wolf to scare the sheeple has all been exposed as propaganda or at the very least very questionable fake plots contrived by the US propaganda machine along with assistance from allies in other countries.

This evidence of fake scares by gov. takes away all of their credibility and more and more people are getting onto their game.  

Actual credible terrorists stopped by the invasive perverted screenings = 0%

Mothers milk - water confiscated- fake water bombs - etc. that are really threats proven to be likely contrived= 100%

Brainwashing attempts by scare tactics to keep the sheeple scared that have to many ridiculous elements of evidence saying they are contrived by gov and associates.... 100%

Just more games to get approval for the looting and murderous foreign policies of our military industrial world banker complex.

[Windpower]

No Don

we are emulating the Israeli procedures


Israelis are experts at humilating goyim

That is what this is about, reducing people's sense of decency and making them submit to degrading procedures

I have to fly as part of my job. But where I used to fly to places like MSP or St Louis, I now drive 6.5 hours each way.

I will not submit to this degrading, humiliating hobson's choice ---  walk naked and be photographed or get sexually assaulted.

btw the 'underwear bomber' did go through the back scatter x-ray machines at Schiphol

and they obviously did not catch him

Here's a picture of a TSA computer screen saver



here it is full size so you can appreciate the 'humor'




http://gizmodo.com/5688087/the-tsas-sense-of-humor-makes-me-nervous


the whole thing is a dirty joke and I refuse to participate

[glenn kangiser]

Not only emulating Israel... this outrage is implemented by dual Israeli-US citizens in our government.

As mentioned above Chertoff derives his major income from this scourge on the American public.  It is obvious that his allegiance ios not to the US and it's citizens.

http://www.viewzone.com/dualcitizen.html

[Shawn B]

Actually air travel is a contract right between the ticket holder and the airline. The Feds are interfering with that contract, assuming that they are a third party to it.


Don........the scanners, and TSA are not about safety. It's about conditioning the American people to accept a Police State.


Proud member of the Non-Flier club.


I'm with ya Windpower......the faster we cut off the zionist nation of Israel the better off America will be.

[NM_Shooter]

Quit yer bitchin' already.  We were conditioned long ago to start accepting government intrusion.

If you don't like the "security" requirements, don't fly.  Or buy your own airplane.  Problem solved. 

I'm also amazed at how easily the anti-Semites can be worked into a froth. 

[Shawn B]

Apparently some were more conditioned than others, while many either accepted part of it only to reject it later, or neither accepted the conditioning in the fist place.

Like a middle class American is going to be able to buy a personal airplane in this economy. But as I said earlier... I'm a proud member of the Non-Flier Club.

Actually Frank, I'm somewhat of a libertarian therefore I do not attack groups of people as a whole, either by nationality, religion, etc. Referring to the Nation of Israel (it's government) as zionist does not mean equating the Israeli people as the same. Though many support it's actions. I'm sorry you can not see the difference between the two. Must have something to do with the social conditioning thing  Also you accusing me of being a anti-semite reflects the same conditioning.

[Windpower]

Some people such as myself do not have a choice of whether to fly or not if we want to stay employed at our current job.

in today's job climate resigning is not an option.

BTW I do have my own plane. At a Michigan class D airport my wife and I needed to use the bathrooms at a gas stop. This was 2007.

The man fueling the 170 said to us "no problem just punch in 2 - 7 - 6 - 8 at the door lock. You do not have to go through security just punch in the same code to come back."

And we did walk right by all the passengers x-raying their carry ons and walking through the metal detectors and we by-passed all that and  just walked through the security door back to the ramp. TSA took no notice us at all

For those with children or wives....

Would you allow your daughter to be fondled by the TSA enhanced grope procedure  or would you prefer her to be photographed naked ?


Read what this mother has to say about the sexual assault she experienced

(Mods: sorry if this is too graphic -- if you delete it I understand)


http://www.ourlittlechatterboxes.com/2010/11/tsa-sexual-assault.html

"She instructed me, "Spread your feet apart and hold your arms out to the side." I obliged.

She patted my left arm, my right arm, my upper back and my lower back. She then said, "I need to reach in and feel along the inside of your waistband."

She felt along my waistline, moved behind me, then proceeded to feel both of my buttocks. She reached from behind in the middle of my buttocks towards my vagina area.

She did not tell me that she was going to touch my buttocks, or reach forward to my vagina area.

She then moved in front of my and touched the top and underneath portions of both of my breasts.

She did not tell me that she was going to touch my breasts.

She then felt around my waist. She then moved to the bottoms of my legs.

She then felt my inner thighs and my vagina area, touching both of my labia.

She did not tell me that she was going to touch my vagina area or my labia."

[muldoon]

NM_Shooter -- "I'm also amazed at how easily the anti-Semites can be worked into a froth.  "

Well you can label me as you see fit to make me crazy in your mind.  But I do have a problem with these practices.  When your wife and daughters go through it, you will to. 

http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/new-tsa-pat-down-procedures.html

Women in tight skirts that don't allow an agent to feel the thigh area may be asked to remove the skirt in a private screening area and will be given a gown or towel to put on.

stripped searched by a 12 dollar an hour mall security guard for no reason?  That's an acceptable practice?  To say otherwise is anti-Semitic?  what are you smoking? 

[NM_Shooter]

I'm with ya Windpower......the faster we cut off the zionist nation of Israel the better off America will be.

Ahem.   

[MountainDon]

I do not understand all the broohaha that came after I remarked that perhaps we could learn something from the Israelis. They employ people who job description contains the word profiler. The people they employ as profilers are intelligent university graduates, people who after their military service receive specialized training and are well paid. They are competent at watching for signs that indicate a person may need further questioning, any person, not just a goyim. They do not simply ask if anyone packed your bags for you; what kind of a farce is that?  Israel also uses technological devices but places a great reliance on personal interaction.

It is not racial profiling as much as it is behavior pattern recognition. Logan International in Boston has been using such techniques, BTW.



I wonder why the mere mention of Israel or Israeli security practices brings out the anti Israel comments so rapidly.   I know that any comment that might be favorable at all to the Nation of Israel or Israelis in general, will bring out the forces of anti-Semitism with their anti-Semite comments. And those who do express such views/opinions, know it'll piss me off.  Is it, let's see what we can do to get the moderator riled up? 

I wonder what countries, what peoples, those who bear grudges against Israel/Israelis deem to be better than them?

[ScottA]

I think people are just tired of the whole security industrial complex in general. Much of which sorry to say orginated in Israel and is promoted and sold by Israel based companies. There are too many checkpoints. Too many cameras. Too many scanners. None of this seems to have made anyone much safer but made someone a lot of money. No matter what they do someone will find a way around it all if they really want to bad enough. Risk is part of life. I for one don't want to live in cage or a fish bowl and that's what all this security is bringing us to.

[dug]

Risk is part of life. I for one don't want to live in cage or a fish bowl and that's what all this security is bringing us to.

My sentiments exactly. You always seem to nail the heart of the matter Scott.