intersection of my built up beams in corners

[tesa]

i'm not sure that subject title makes a heck of alot of sense, but its the best i could come up with

in looking at the simpson AC brackets i noticed there is a bracket for the corners where my beams meet
thats not on my materials list for my 1 1/2 story, can i use this bracket? i wish i would have written down
the stock number, but i didn't, i only remember it had a place for the beams comming off one wall, and the
beams comming from the other angle fit in perfectly to malke a corner, and if i'm not mistaken, they make them
for both 4X and 6X post to beam connections

otherwise, how DO the beams connect in the corners to eachother and the corner post: i've seen the bracket called out
in my plans, but it looks sort of like this other bracket i saw would do the same thing

i know i've asked these type bracket questions before, and i beg your indulgence whilst i get this
put together in my mind

on another note, it would seem we need to take down one last tree, to fit the house where we want it, and then
we're free  and clear to break ground!!  yea!!!

hopefully, we'll get that tree taken down within the next few weeks, and then start footing s

have a great day!

tesa

[MountainDon]

Which beams.  Most of us are handicapped by not having the plan sheets.


built up beams usually run parallel to each other and then have floor joists on top of them... unless you are talking about some other beam or that plan is different.

[tesa]

the built up beams that run on top of my 6X posts

tesa

[MountainDon]

The beams usually run parallel to each other and do not meet at corners. In some plans the end of a beam overhangs the post a little, say a foot or so, other plans may have the beam stop on the post with no overhang.

Type AC requie some overhang,,,


Type
LPCZ do not...


or type LCE4...


or type ACE


They can be all be found here...
http://www.strongtie.com/products/connectors/AC-ACE-LPCZ-LCE.asp

[tesa]

you know, i must be really confussed, and i'm thinking you guys are ready to ring my neck

the built up beams only run on the long axix of my house, i guess i was thinking the built up beams
run on all 4 sides, but after doing some materials list studying, i guess its the 2X12X20's that run
on the 20' sides, my gable ends

but when i try to match the brackets/hardware with the beams i'm missing something!

so the 8 lag bolts must be used to secure the beams that run along the 20' sides, 2 for each end times 4 ends equals 8

i also noticed my foundation plan states " beams at gable ends can be eliminated if no cantilevered floor joists are supported"

i take it that i can do away with those 2X12X20'ers on both ends since i dont have any cantilevered floors and just mount
my first joist up against the outside edge of my beams ?

phew,

tesa

[MountainDon]

Yes, tesa, on something like the 20 x 30 the built up beams would usually run parallel to the long sides of the building. Then the floor joists will sit across them at 90 degrees to the beams. It sounds like you are building a basic 20 x 30 foot rectangle with no planned protuberances. I'm not sure where the lag bolts are meant for but you're likely correct on that.

Yes the first (and last) joists will be placed right at the beam ends.

[tesa]

YEA!!!

i get it!!

i've said it before, and i'll say it again, this has been the most rewarding learning experience of my life!

i continue to learn and feel confidant that i can do this!!

it a really good feeling when things that you didn't understand come together

thank you so much for not ringing my neck, my husband kinda likes it

tesa

[John Raabe]

Tesa:

Note that the foundation plan shows piers at the midpoint of the 20' walls. These are to support and stabilize the gable end walls. Just notch out the post for the joists and nail the doubled joist into the notch. You do not need a beam there, the double joist with mid support will have plenty of support for the porch loads.

If you do this on both ends you will be able to add a shed roof extension off the back end of the building in the future if needed.

[MountainDon]

thank you so much for not ringing my neck, my husband kinda likes it

tesa

We will only wring your neck when you don't understand something, but go ahead and build something anyhow, then ask later what we think.  

[tesa]

thanks a million

tesa