Those little Handi Rifles are addictive

Started by peternap, November 14, 2009, 09:56:30 PM

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peternap

I bought one of the Handi Ultra Slug guns because they are one of the strongest on the market and I wanted to build a 12FH. I did and it's awe inspiring. Then I bought another one just for tri ball loads. All load are the Blammy Shell type ;D

Then I bought another one with a 45/70 barrel and loved it. Then another in 30/06 c*

There are some simple steps to accurizing them and I just finished the 06.

Not bad for a cheap little single shot at 150 yards





These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

devildog

I bought a .243 about 5 yrs. ago because it was cheap and not so strong of a kick for my boys to shoot and I really like them. Mine has the black poly stock.
One shot One kill
Darrell
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peternap

The FH is fascinating but I'm really enjoying playing with the tri balls.

Just think....1300 grains of lead, :o
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

MountainDon

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

NM_Shooter

Nice work!  What are the details to accurizing those?
"Officium Vacuus Auctorita"


peternap

Quote from: NM_Shooter on November 16, 2009, 10:34:44 PM
Nice work!  What are the details to accurizing those?

I'll tell you about the scope in a sec Don

Getting them to shoot is pretty easy NM.
First, a trigger job which is a stroll in the park compared to some I've done.

Next and most important is the forend. They are the most forend sensitive rifles I've ever seen. I used a rubber O ring around the screw stud to set the forend off the barrelk a tad and keep some tension on the screw. Then I free floated everything forward of the stud. Then I relieved the spacer where the hinge is so it had very light pressure. Worked like a charm.

Last is screw tension. The screw has to have the same tension every time you remove it. I made a torque screwdriver by putting a 2 pound lead weight on a rod and welding it to an old replaceable bit screwdriver.

Don, the scope is a SIMO
There's a story about them.
I was at a Gunshow looking for a used Leupold for this barrel and not finding one. It was a pretty slow show and it was Sunday. The fellow selling these was Chinese and a really nice fellow (I couldn't pronounce his name so I renamed him smiley..I know, I know [slap])

Well he was selling some junk the NGStar or whatever, but also had these SIMO's that I had read a little about. Pentax set up a plant in China to produce high end optics for the military. Spent Billions on it from what I read. These scopes are just hitting the US market and there isn't much known about them yet. Most that had them, liked them.

Anyway, slow show and I kept looking through it and walking away. The optics are a good as my Leupolds and that's on a 54 mm lens. Just amazing on a hundred dollar scope. Even so, I couldn't bring myself to buy a Chinese scope.
The last time I looked at it, Smiley told me in very broken English, I could have it for half price since he hadn't made expenses yet.

I bought it and kicked myself all the way home.
BUT, I had it, might as well see if I could break it. I mounted it on the 12FH which kicks more than any gun other than the bread slicer, I have.

The darn thing stayed on zero aand I tried changing settings and then changing back and the repeated like a high dollar scope. I put it on a 45/70 and it shot beautifully. Then I switched it over to the 30/06 Handi. Still did what it was supposed to do.

The big surprise came Saturday evening. It was late and I was still on stand. It was close to the end of legal hours and I heard a twig snap. Too dark to see but I looked through the scope and it was bright enough to see clearly.....on a hundred dollar scope. I  shot the deer and had to gut it by flashlight.

The thing has an illuminated mil dot crosshair and so far, just keeps on going.
I have no way of knowing how it will stand up over time but so far, I'm darned impressed.

The only thing I've found to complain about so far is the eye relief isn't very forgiving. You either have your head positioned right or you don't see out of the scope. I can live with that if the innards hold up.

I got it soaking wet last Wednesday and the next morning, clear as a bell.

We'll see.
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

MountainDon

Simo. That's sort of funny or some weird coincidence, if Simo is Chinese for something.

Simo Häyhä is the name o the famous Finnish sniper. He preferred iron sights on his M28 Finnish Mosin Nagant. He did not like telescopic sights as using one he presented a larger, higher target.


Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

Mike 870

I have the 12 guage slug gun, I love it.  I have not made any mods to it except to take the weight out of the stock.  It's a great gun and very accurate out of the box.  We call it the deer cannon. 

peternap

Quote from: Mike 870 on November 17, 2009, 10:18:00 AM
I have the 12 guage slug gun, I love it.  I have not made any mods to it except to take the weight out of the stock.  It's a great gun and very accurate out of the box.  We call it the deer cannon. 

I think the slug guns are the best of the bunch Mike. I flat love mine. The FH is a little awe inspiring with that 4.5 inch case. The 3.5 inch is great with the TRI ball loads and the 3" is plain murder with Lyman Sabot Slugs and 95 to 110 grains of RE 17. I've always had this fascination with the English Big Bores and this lets me play with ultra big bullets in a gun that I didn't need a mortgage for.

Next on the list is a 10ga ultra barrel. ;D
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!


Mike 870

Ha, ha, I am actually considering putting the weight back in the stock.  I fired it 5 times a couple months ago while testing a new scope.  My entire shoulder area was one big mess of black and blue.  I use the whitefield slugs in the white box (forget what they are called exactly).  I didn't think much of it while shooting, but after I got home my wife saw my shoulder and asked what the heck happened to me.  They are just mean looking when you look at how big the bore is.  I can't imagine the 10 guage.

My father in law won the 28 guage shotgun in a raffle, and gave it to my wife but I have not tried that one yet.  

MountainDon

I wondered about your shoulder when I read you took the weight out.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

MountainDon

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

peternap

Pretty much Don.

You can take it a little further if you really want one hole accuracy.

http://www.angelfire.com/ma/ZERMEL/accuhandi.html

One irritating thing about the SB2 receivers. The shotgun SB2 is slightly wider (Recess ) than the Rifle so the two aren't interchangeable.
I was told in no uncertain terms that you could not put a rifle barrel on the shotgun. I hate being told that so I bedded the recess and put a rifle barrel on. ;D

These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

Mike 870

Figured I'd post some eye candy for you guys...

Note that you need an extension for the hammer if you are going to mount certian scopes.  I think it comes with it but can't remember if my FiL gave it to me or not.


muldoon

I have been watching this thread and feeling something familiar about that forarm grip, and damascus styled receiver.  Sure enough I have one in 410 after I went and dug it up.

Mine is stamped New England firearms, Pardner model SB. 

I guess H&R bought them out at some point as H&R now has a pardner 410 - exact same shotgun in their lineup. 
They call it a SB1-041

http://www.hr1871.com/Firearms/Shotguns/pardnerYouth.asp

Here is mine,




peternap

That's another thing that fascinates me about them Muldoon. Everyone had/has one. It i the shotgun that most every farmer had propped in his corner and almost every kid got to hunt with.

The SB1 .410 was my first shotgun and I can't tell how many rabbits, squirrels, doves and pidgins I killed with it. I even killed a troublesome groundhog once.

It is also the first gun I did a trigger job on. I carried it a little too far and really had a hair trigger...but it worked. :-[

They just ooze of rural America indays gone by.

I started handloading with my .410 also. At the age of 11, I used a nail to decap the shells, a dowel and piece of glass to prime them, measured the powder with a filed down .38 shell and used a pipe I had riled a bevel on the inside...to crimp over a cardboard wad I cut with the brass off an old shell. A little elmers glue finished the crimp.
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!