Cedar shingle questions

[John_M]

Thinking that we may go with western red cedar shingles for our small cabin.

Any good books out there that anyone knows about?  Websites?

Also,

What about treating the wood?  Sikkens?  Cabot?  Anyone have good or bad experiences with these higher end products?

I was leaning towards cement fiber siding but have changed my mind!  Am I crazy to use real wood?  I know the maintenance is there but this is not a 5000 square foot home we are talking aobut!

[glenn kangiser]

The older red cedar didn't need treatment.  I am most familiar with shakes.  

Possibly more fire danger.  There may be insurance considerations.

[John Raabe]

I think cedar is a great choice. It ages gracefully and can get by with no treatment at all if you don't want to mess with stain. It will get streaks, turn dark or whatever happens in your particular climate. In that way it will look "rustic" rather than "dirty" which is the low maintenance option of cement siding. (Granted - pressure washing is easier than staining but doing nothing is even easier!)



A cedar shingle version of the Little House

[Jochen]

Although I don't have cedar shakes on my house you might want to look at it. I have used a combination of Western Red Cedar shiplap and board on board siding. After one winter the siding starts to grey a bit, but that is nothing bad when you will keep in mind that you save a bunch of maintenance work.

Jochen

[PEG688]

 Thinking that we may go with western red cedar shingles for our small cabin.

 Any good books out there that anyone knows about?  Websites?

 Also,

 What about treating the wood?  Sikkens?  Cabot?  Anyone have good or bad experiences with these higher end products?

  I was leaning towards cement fiber siding but have changed my mind!  Am I crazy to use real wood?  I know the maintenance is there but this is not a 5000 square foot home we are talking aobut!

  Great choice IMO.

 http://www.cedarbureau.org/installation/wall_manual/introduction.htm

 I'd use 15 lbs felt under them , or 30 lbs if your in a high wind /rain / envir.  Or some of the high tec systems that have been bashed around here, If it where mine , it would be 15 lbs felt , proven to work in my area of the country I have remodel homes / shacks , some of them,  in this area that where negected / abused / etc and have seen felts proven results .  

 I'd leave them raw   But those mentioned finishs are good . I have worked with shingles that where dipped , sort of dirty's your tool / hands etc , But the product is applied very well that way . PITB as you'll MTL be the one dipping hanging / handling the shingles so it's labor intensive .  Most rig up a dip trough / draining area to "recover " the product as the shingles drip dry.


 Not  IMO   Real wood like cedar sidewall shingles look sweet 8-) , especially on a steep pitched roof small building.

 Woven outside corners add a real "carpenter "look to  

 http://www.cedarbureau.org/installation/wall-manual.htm

 http://www.cedarbureau.org/installation/wall_manual/page09.htm#

 


 Lots of good info on those links ,IMO .

 Good luck , GREAT CHOICE , PEG

 

[keyholefarmhouse]

I put cedar shakes on my home ten years ago.  Seems like yesterday.  Bought them from a local roofer at a discounted price.  They wern't your typical contractor quality, meaning they wern't a nice big square and uniform quality.  They were however thicker and more stout.  More durible in my estimation.  It took much longer to aply them but the end product was a better roof.  They are very attractive and durable.  They have survived several moderate hailstorms with no problem.  We do not have a wood burner and are not isolated in a forest with constant fire threat.  We left them untreated for the above reason John stated.  I think they will last another fifty years provided the hail doesn't exceed golf ball size.

[PEG688]

I believe John is talking about using shingle of siding , is that right John ?

Althought cedar shingles and cedar shakes can and have been used for both siding and roofing.

 A lot of people confuse the two products and also the two different application / techniques / details of the different appliactions.

 There are also differences between western red cedar and atlantic white cedar .

 
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