Do Not Call

Started by Redoverfarm, December 16, 2011, 07:58:55 AM

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Redoverfarm

Just another example of the goverment biting off more than they could chew. Apparently the FCC is in charge of enforcement of the "Do Not Call List" but their enforcement has failed.  [toilet] The telephone spammers as I call them have now developed a new tactic from what I see.  The initial law worked for just a short period of time and then failed.  I have been getting several calls for which the person/persons have blocked their telephone numbers from display on the caller ID only to show " private caller or "hidden unknown number" .  When I get these calls their is no telephone number displayed to report.  Some have even went so far as to submit pre-recorded messages for which you cannot even inquire what number they are calling from. Short of having the telephone company trace the calls what else can be done.   Anyone else receiving these similar calls?    >:(

peternap

Quote from: Redoverfarm on December 16, 2011, 07:58:55 AM
Just another example of the goverment biting off more than they could chew. Apparently the FCC is in charge of enforcement of the "Do Not Call List" but their enforcement has failed.  [toilet] The telephone spammers as I call them have now developed a new tactic from what I see.  The initial law worked for just a short period of time and then failed.  I have been getting several calls for which the person/persons have blocked their telephone numbers from display on the caller ID only to show " private caller or "hidden unknown number" .  When I get these calls their is no telephone number displayed to report.  Some have even went so far as to submit pre-recorded messages for which you cannot even inquire what number they are calling from. Short of having the telephone company trace the calls what else can be done.   Anyone else receiving these similar calls?    >:(

Yep!
Got one day before yesterday.
Darned if I know where they get the number. We only have cell phones. I always lie about the number on orders, warranties and everything else.
The scammers are getting bad. I got a letter yesterday telling me I had 50% off of an IPad. No company name or anything else except a coupon number and an 888 number to call.

These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!


Gary O

Yup, and pretty darn irritating.
It's an invasion.
I do love to play with the minds of callers in that genre, but the recorded messages take all the fun out of it.
It's just darn hard to keep pace with technology, applied with dirty hands.
Thinkin' about blocking everyone and creating a very short 'do call' list.
I'm enjoying all that I own, the moment.

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MountainDon

One thing to remember about the Do Not Call list is that if you do business with a company they are permitted to call you with marketing calls for a period of up to 18 months since your last purchase, delivery, payment. Political organizations, charities, or telephone surveyors are exempt from the list. In addition, a company may call a consumer for up to three months after the consumer makes an inquiry or submits an application to the company. And if a consumer has given a company written permission, the company may call even if the consumer's number is on the National Do Not Call Registry.

If you ask a company not to call, the company may not call, even if there is an established business relationship. Indeed, a company may not call a consumer - regardless of whether the consumer's number is on the registry - if the consumer has asked to be put on the company's own do not call list. I always tell unsolicited callers that if I get a call where there is an actual person on the line, plus I tell them that the call has been recorded. Don't know if it does any good, but we've had the same land line number for 26 years and get surprisingly few marketing calls on it.

So that leaves a lot of room for calls even when you register with the Do Not Call Registry. Cell numbers are not supposed to be called at all unless you provide the number voluntarily. Then they can call your using the above mentioned 18 month rule.

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

MushCreek

I got a lot of calls on my cell phone, and call block didn't work! I continued to get calls (about 6-8 a day) from the same number for a week. I googled the number, and people all over the country were getting the calls.
Jay

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Redoverfarm

Quote from: MushCreek on December 16, 2011, 04:47:44 PM
I got a lot of calls on my cell phone, and call block didn't work! I continued to get calls (about 6-8 a day) from the same number for a week. I googled the number, and people all over the country were getting the calls.

We have a cell phone for basic calling and emergency when traveling.  We started getting alot of text messaging.  We don't text ( technology challanged) so we basicly had to contact the provider and have the text blocked. 

Sassy

I is pretty irritating - I've changed our phone service to pay for less minutes because we weren't using them & then they waste a bunch. 

Don't think the "do not call" ever worked on our landline phone lines.
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frazoo

We let the answering machine screen our landline calls.  If we don't know them, we just don't pick up. We have blocked all calls to the cell phone except known callers (friends and family).

frazoo

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Native_NM

Get yourself that Magic Jack contraption.  It works great if you have internet.  Use that number for everything.  It is a valid number, and you don't have to have it ring.  Send it to voicemail.

I have a few email addresses.  I use one for registering everything.  It has more spam than a Hawaiian birthday party. 

Here is a little experiment for you.  Next time you have to order something online or register for something, change your name a bit.  Instead of Frank, put Funk.  Don becomes Done.  You get the picture.  Now sit back and watch the email and the mail.  Keep a note of the terms and conditions of the original site.  You will receive tons of email and junk mail addressed to "Funk" or "Done". 

I submitted an email to one of the Senators in NM.  You had to fill out everything on the webform.  I didn't enter a salutation, so when I hit submit it kicked it back.  I entered "Dr." by mistake - it was the first choice in the list.  Within a few weeks I was receiving mail addressed to "Dr. xxx".  It just seemed to spiral out of control.  Soon I was getting calls from people looking for donations.  Invitations to fundraisers.  I went back and looked at the privacy policy of his website, and he states that he will not share your information.  Coincidence?  I don't think so.

Sandia Labs once screwed up the bidders list on a RFP.  They send out a list of the people who attend the pre-proposal meeting.  The list was in Excel.  When the guy sorted it, he got the order wrong.  My last name was matched to another first name.  For months I would receive paper mail addressed to that name.  Somebody got the list and sold it to a company, and it perpetuated through the system. 
New Mexico.  Better than regular Mexico.


MountainDon

I almost don't want to pass on this info, but I will as there can be honest reasons for wanting to use a email address that won't be sold and thusly begin the generation of countless emails you don't want. There are services that provide disposable email addresses. Some spammers make use of them; that's why I hesitate.

Do a search for disposable email address. There are many providers and I'm not going to provide any referral links. Some require registration. Some will permit forwarding email to another address. Some permit the user to make up any address as long as it is followed by the "@disposablecraoemail.com" Some have the incoming email automatically erased after a short time period. Some allow anyone to read the incoming email. Lots of variations. 
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.