Thanksgiving

Started by sparks, November 21, 2011, 11:26:35 PM

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Turkey Day Plans

Staying Home.....they're all coming here
7 (50%)
Travelling....to someone else's home
5 (35.7%)
Dining Out....less dishes to wash
2 (14.3%)

Total Members Voted: 14

Voting closed: November 25, 2011, 11:26:35 PM

sparks

The wife and I opted for dining out . She has a rather large extended pile of children, grandchildren, etc.
Spoke with my son yesterday.....he and a couple of his fellow workers will be doing volunteer stuff at Walter Reed........seems they know a few guys there.............................


Be Grateful, and have a nice Thanksgiving




Dave, Connie, and Mae Mae

My vessel is so small....the seas so vast......

Gary O

 Several family members will be coming over, along with some friends, and some that have no place to give thanks and eat at the same time......

Keep yer Turkey Moist

Gary & Cabi
I'm enjoying all that I own, the moment.

"Live in the sunshine, swim the sea, drink the wild air." Emerson


peternap

#2
I'd rather skip it this year to be honest.
When I was a kid, Thanksgiving was almost always the same day as butchering day. Half the county would be there and we had a big spread for everyone.

Later, my Mother always had a big Thanksgiving meal. My wife loved that and when we had kids, Thanksgiving was a big affair. Those were really the Norman Rockwell years.

About eight years ago, my Mother began to have their Thanksgiving dinners at a restaurant. We'd have our lunch here with the kids, then drive the hundred miles to do it over with the folks.

Then my son had kids and they decided to start having their own dinners. We kept on with the two for us and our daughter and her husband.

Mom died a few years ago and it devastated Dad. I think he snapped a little because he continued having Thanksgiving at the same Restaurant and insisting we all come. We did.

My son divorced his wife 3 years ago and they have joint custody of the kids. Just as well, I couldn't stand that woman. He also remarried and I like his wife and she wants to have a big dinner with her parents (whom I can take in very small doses) and us and the kids.

My wife insists on having her dinners and having our daughter over (Her husband doesn't come anymore. He comes from a dysfunctional family that isn't much into family events)...anyway....then we are supposed to go to our Sons for a meal.

My Father passed away about three months ago and I think I snapped a little.

Somewhere along the line Thanksgiving has lost it's meaning for me. I'm looking at a hectic day where everyone is rushing to overeat and most of it I can't eat at all. I have no idea what my Brother and Sister are doing but I suspect they're traveling somewhere.

I never gave much thought to the Holidays without Dad because I was certain he'd outlive me.

There's just a lot of baggage right now and it's a very empty feeling this year.
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

MushCreek

When I was a kid, my uncle tragically died in a car crash the day before Thanksgiving. What used to be a Big Day at my grandparent's was never the same. In later years, my aunt took over, and it did regain most of its importance to us.

Since my wife and I moved to FL 30 years ago, Thanksgiving is usually at our place, although we only have company every other year. I love to cook, and do most of the Thanksgiving Day cooking. Its a big ritual for me, and I'll miss it if I ever get to the point that I can't (or don't want) to do it. Since our relatives travel on Thanksgiving Day, we have the big meal on Friday, while the rest of the world is fighting over the last Tickle-Me-Elmo, or whatever the toy-du-jour is.
Jay

I'm not poor- I'm financially underpowered.

Redoverfarm

The true meaning of Thanksgiving & Christmas alike have all but disappeared.  But we try to hold on to traditional values.  Thanksgiving for us is family gathering.  This year it is w/my wifes family.  Bite your tounge day in more ways than one.  I think everyone goes through a transition when you move away from your immediate family as you remember of your youth and now that of your new (married) family.  Add a death of a close family member and that too lessens the value that you have know for this festive time of the year.  I hope that everyone has a good Thanksgiving and remember the tue meaning which is giving thanks for all that we have. 


peternap

Quote from: Redoverfarm on November 22, 2011, 08:22:12 AM

Bite your tounge day in more ways than one. 

I almost spewed coffee on my keyboard! [rofl2]
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

redbird


Quote from: peternap on November 22, 2011, 03:57:29 AM
I'd rather skip it this year to be honest.
When I was a kid, Thanksgiving was almost always the same day as butchering day. Half the county would be there and we had a big spread for everyone.

Later, my Mother always had a big Thanksgiving meal. My wife loved that and when we had kids, Thanksgiving was a big affair. Those were really the Norman Rockwell years.

About eight years ago, my Mother began to have their Thanksgiving dinners at a restaurant. We'd have our lunch here with the kids, then drive the hundred miles to do it over with the folks.

Then my son had kids and they decided to start having their own dinners. We kept on with the two for us and our daughter and her husband.

Mom died a few years ago and it devastated Dad. I think he snapped a little because he continued having Thanksgiving at the same Restaurant and insisting we all come. We did.

My son divorced his wife 3 years ago and they have joint custody of the kids. Just as well, I couldn't stand that woman. He also remarried and I like his wife and she wants to have a big dinner with her parents (whom I can take in very small doses) and us and the kids.

My wife insists on having her dinners and having our daughter over (Her husband doesn't come anymore. He comes from a dysfunctional family that isn't much into family events)...anyway....then we are supposed to go to our Sons for a meal.

My Father passed away about three months ago and I think I snapped a little.

Somewhere along the line Thanksgiving has lost it's meaning for me. I'm looking at a hectic day where everyone is rushing to overeat and most of it I can't eat at all. I have no idea what my Brother and Sister are doing but I suspect they're traveling somewhere.

I never gave much thought to the Holidays without Dad because I was certain he'd outlive me.

There's just a lot of baggage right now and it's a very empty feeling this year.



I like your post.  Makes me feel at home :)   Seriously, my Grandmother died 2 years ago today and she had the same view of Thanksgiving and Christmas, and I guess now I do too.  But when we were together we sure made it Norman Rockwellish.  Now that she's gone, I have dysfunction left.  O'well, I guess if I ever have children I hope to pass on a good Norman Rockwell feeling to them so that when life happens later they have memories to be grateful for and to by cynical about when they are older :) 

I am very grateful that I had so many wonderful holidays.  Even if now its going to another families house and pretending that I'm in their family.  Once I went to a vegan thanksgiving and everyone brought their dog.  It was one of the funnest holiday events I've ever been too, and a really interesting meal. 

Thanksgiving is what we make of it, but sometimes it sure sounds a lot more fun to just stay in bed under the covers all day. 

Anyhoo.  Happy Thanksgiving.

P.S. Is that a Woody Guthrie quote at the bottom of your post?

"Any fool can make something complicated. It takes a genius to make it simple."
― Woody Guthrie

peternap

Quote from: redbird on November 23, 2011, 10:58:43 AM

P.S. Is that a Woody Guthrie quote at the bottom of your post?
Del Gue
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

kenhill

It was a time for family gathering.  The elders are waining and the youngers are finding their own path.  We strayed to Alaska with family in the lower 48.  We gather with good friends.

I SAY BOYCOTT ALL THE STORES THAT OPEN THANKSGIVING EVE TO PROFIT FOR THE UPCOMING CHRISTMAS SEASON.  THOSE WORKERS DESERVE TIMEOFF TO BE WITH FAMILIES TOO.  Sorry for the shouting!!!


ChuckinVa

For us it is a time to pass on tradition to our children who are now adults. I understand what Peternap is saying as I lost my grandmother and mother in a little over a year. We had taken over the traditional thanksgiving meal from mom as I knew how stressful it was for her to get everything together. And Christmas eve was a special meal that my grandmother always enjoyed with us. I have great memories of those times but I miss my mom and grandmother very much. But I still have those wonderful memories and I hope my children will some day appreciate these times and will have fond memories of special family time. That is what makes all of the effort worthwhile. I hope everyone has a great thanksgiving and realizes how much we have to be thankful for.

CHUCK
ChuckinVa
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glenn kangiser

Lots to be thankful for in real life - without the commercial shopping venture that starts now - the reason for the commercial promotion of the season we call Thanksgiving.

For a short time the help of the Indians was as we see it,  but we always tend to write the nastiness out of our history that is our true heritage....

We need to be thankful for what we have but daily look at making our country turn into the kind of country we like to think it was.

A quote about the hidden history that is the true story of The Aftermath of Thanksgiving......

QuoteIn my 12 years of schooling in Rhode Island and Fall River, Massachusetts, I was taught nothing about Native American culture of the area, except at Thanksgiving. In grammar school, it was obligatory for students to create a drawing with Crayola crayons that depicted the first Thanksgiving: some weary, but benevolent white settlers mingling with Native Americans over a feast. The Indians always looked savage and the whites so civilized.

We also were told that turkey was the main fare for the feast, but again we were told another lie. Fish and small fowl, along with native vegetables, some of which the Pilgrims were unaware, adorned the menu.

The Wampanoag Indians, under Chief Massasoit, welcomed the Pilgrims to Massachusetts and provided food for what we now call the first Thanksgiving. The goodwill between the two peoples lasted only a short time, however.

Eventually, Metacomet (Anglicized name, Philip), Massasoit's son, became chief after his father's death. During the time of the new regime, the Puritans were launching a land-grab from the Indians and were hostile toward the Natives, who had benevolently given them the rights to thousands of acres of land while asking for nothing in return.

When Metacomet called "foul," the Puritans upped the ante. He approached the governing authorities of the Puritans and complained that they were encroaching on Indian land and stealing their crops. When a court met, it was run by three Puritain judges who negated the complaints of Metacomet and then ordered the Indians to be disarmed. That was the last straw for the Indian leader.

Over the next few years, tensions rose with Indians and Puritans alike being killed in raids. The more the Puritans encroached, the more the Indians resisted.

In 1675, all-out war began. The name given to the war was King Philip's War. Maybe it should have been the Puritan War, but history has been unkind to the Natives.

In the beginning, Metacomet's forces were dominating. At one time, the Puritans were pushed back and were discussing going back to England. But, the Natives began running out of food. Their demise was at hand.

Within two years, most of the proud Wampanoag Indians were massacred. A nation that included more than 30,000 people with highly-organized governments and social structures became a shabby band of no more than 2,000 Indians at the end of the war. They were ordered into slavery. Until this day, they have never recovered. The descendants of the Wampanoags of the 17th century live today in southeastern Massachusetts and most live in poverty.

Metacomet was killed when the Puritans paid an Indian informant to spy on him and report his location. The turncoat Indian was the person who pulled the trigger and murdered Metacomet. His body parts were put on public display throughout the region. Within six decades of landing at Plymouth Rock, the whites had forever destroyed a culture that had inhabited the area for thousands of years prior to the arrival of the Mayflower.

The rest of the story.... http://alethonews.wordpress.com/2010/11/15/the-aftermath-of-the-first-thanksgiving/



History cannot be re-written.... it can be subdued...temporarily covered over ...hidden from youth for generations.

What we can do is change the future - one person at a time starting with ourselves.  Make new friends even of foreigners.  I can tell you that the common people of the world... those not obsessed with greed and power, want things to be like our utopian first Thanksgiving without the problems that later occurred. 

I hope to treat the little people right, no matter what leadership is doing.  I am thankful to have the opportunity to do some of that.
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