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« on: October 21, 2011, 03:46:44 AM »
Just a year before the rebels got their financing from the banks

http://www.examiner.com/finance-examiner-in-national/america-s-true-reason-for-attacking-libya-becomes-clear-with-new-central-bank

the Gadhafi government completed the  Great Man Made River Project.

Here is a description of the great man made river project that was a tremendous infrastrcture success for Libya. (I say "was" since the aquaduct and the factory to build the cement pipes were 'unfortunately' severely damaged by NATO)

http://www.galenfrysinger.com/man_made_river_libya.htm

water from GMMR costs about $.35 per cubic meter ($25 Billion project completed by the Libyan government with no IMF loans)

water from the bankster financed desalination plant (not built)  $3.75 per cubic meter


thumbing your nose to the banksters will get you killed every time, even if your name is

John Kennedy, who wrote Executive order 11110  authorizing silver backed US currency just 5 months before his trip to Dallas.

http://www.john-f-kennedy.net/executiveorder11110.htm


never mind small timers like Gadhafi or  Saddam Husain (who was going to start selling oil in Euros),

They used to "take them down" covertly like  Jaime Roldos,  Omar Torrijos, Mosaddegh and on and on

So now we have this report from MSNBC.  My, isn't Jim Miklaszewski a smug POS

'Frankly Brian, they were poised to take out anything that moved"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/44971257/ns/world_news-mideast_n_africa/?GT1=43001



John Perkins, author of "Confessions of an Economic Hitman"  sums it up in about 2 minutes









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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2011, 04:03:35 AM »

Secretary of State Clinton on the assassination

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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2011, 02:41:11 PM »
Those evil people! Why would anyone want to harm a nice guy like Gaddafi?


http://current.com/community/93011049_gaddafis-forces-massacre-citizens-in-benghazi-updated-report-benghazi-now-in-hands-of-protesters.htm

http://bigpeace.com/jxenakis/2011/06/28/28-jun-11-world-view-genocide-charges-against-gaddafi/

During the 1980s and 1990s, Gaddafi openly supported international terrorism as well as independence movements, including Nelson Mandela's African National Congress, the Palestinian Liberation Organization, the Irish Republican Army and the Polisario front, which led to a deterioration of Libya's foreign relations, culminating in the US bombing of Libya in 1986. After the 9/11 attacks attacks, however, Gaddafi began to distance himself from terrorism, and during the 2000s, Libya's international relations were mostly normalized, the US rescinding its designation of Gaddafi's Libya as a state sponsor of terrorism in June 2006. Gaddafi's final appearances as the leader of Libya on the international stage were his eccentric 100-minute speech to the United Nations on 23 September 2009, and his attendance at the G-8 summit in Italy in July 2010.


At the beginning of the 1987 Libyan offensive into Chad, it maintained a force of 2,000 in Darfur. The nearly continuous cross-border raids that resulted greatly contributed to a separate ethnic conflict within Darfur that killed about 9,000 people between 1985 and 1988.  Janjaweed, a group that is accused by the U.S. of carrying out a genocide in Darfur in the 2000s, emerged in 1988 and some its leaders are former legionnaires.[29][30]


In 1972 Gaddafi tried to get the People's Republic of China to sell him a nuclear bomb.

Gaddafi was a major financier of the "Black September Movement" which perpetrated the Munich massacre at the 1972 Summer Olympics
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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2011, 02:51:00 PM »
N_NM      


yeah everybody loved Gaddafi
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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2011, 03:45:55 PM »
he was a good man, he was a bad man.  I am not convinced it matters much. 

Perhaps you think Bush was a good man, perhaps you think he was bad.  Perhaps you think Obama is good, perhaps you think he is bad.  What would you think if Libya or some other country decided to just come over and assassinate based on their opinion. 


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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #5 on: October 21, 2011, 04:44:43 PM »
If either Bush or Obama were dictators, murdering tens-of-thousands of Americans, plundering billions while millions starved, executing and torturing anyone who dared dissent, I'd be pretty happy if somebody came in and killed the SOB...

I think there was more to it than his opinions...
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« Reply #6 on: October 21, 2011, 08:34:01 PM »
nm source says

"After the 9/11 attacks attacks, however, Gaddafi began to distance himself from terrorism, and during the 2000s, Libya's international relations were mostly normalized, the US rescinding its designation of Gaddafi's Libya as a state sponsor of terrorism in June 2006. Gaddafi's final appearances as the leader of Libya on the international stage were his eccentric 100-minute speech to the United Nations on 23 September 2009, and his attendance at the G-8 summit in Italy in July 2010."

So that's makes him worth assassinating ?

Perhaps more critically, a nation which had a remarkably high standard of living prior to the conflict now faces a potentially massive humanitarian crisis. Speaking with RT earlier this week, former MI5 agent Annie Machon claimed NATO’s intervention has plunged Libya back into the Stone Age.

“They’ve had free education, free health, they could study abroad. When they got married they got a certain amount of money. So they were rather the envy of many other citizens of African countries. Now, of course, since NATO’s humanitarian intervention the infrastructure of their country has been bombed back to the Stone Age. They will not have the same quality of life. Women probably will not have the same degree of emancipation under any new transitional government. The national wealth is probably going to be siphoned off by Western corporations. Perhaps the standard of living in Libya might have been slightly higher than it perhaps is now in America and the UK with the recession,” she said.

Misrata before and after the rebels and NATO





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« Reply #7 on: October 21, 2011, 08:55:26 PM »
Thanks, Windpower, I've been trying to find that video to post here - watched it awhile back.  Makes a person sick to think of what our USA terrorist dictator "leaders" are perpetrating around the world in the name of "freedom"   :-[







Per a complaint rec'd I deleted my original post and am tagging it on here to keep proper context.  GLENN






So your justification is only that they are not Americans, Native NM.  

As long as it is us doing the murdering elsewhere in the world it is good, eh?

Bush Senior

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Highway_of_Death

http://www.infowars.com/ron-paul-enters-evidence-of-bush-war-crimes-in-congressional-record/

Shrub

http://zeenews.india.com/news/world/canadian-protesters-demand-bush-s-arrest-over-war-crimes_737729.html

and now we are going to help Uganda.....God Help Them...I have personal friends there.

Charmaine... what will she look like with a drone strike in her vicinity or one of our rounds through her face?



Collateral damage.... damn ... I hope not.

Every country we help runs rivers of blood and gets bombed back to the stone age.  Our military no longer fights legal wars but rather sits in Nevada playing virtual video games with real blood and guts at the end.

Obama.... Assassinates his own people without trial.  He refuses to present evidence to a court....no justification necessary.  Might you be his next victim?

http://www.ancientchronicles.com/content/obama-assasinates-american-citizen-no-trials-no-judges-no-jury

I am ashamed to have my name associated with the murderers running our country.  Our policy of murder for oil and protection of the dollar banking system is not worth even one of the innocent lives.  Face it.... we do not benefit from the wars for the bankers or oil corporations.  Oil prices would likely be cheaper if traded than at the price we pay through keeping the war machine running.

Murder is murder by any other name.

I prefer Cherise's solution.



Cherise is another Ugandan child we may soon be able to call collateral damage... except for me... I would call it murder if her or anyone like her is killed.


Ghadaffi Assassination justified?.... I may need to have more proof to swallow that government propaganda.

You think Obama is not set to quell our dissenters?

http://thenewamerican.com/opinion/954-chuck-baldwin/2338-us-troops-wearing-un-colors

Think again.
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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #8 on: October 21, 2011, 09:39:56 PM »
(Replaced Glenn's modified quote- original was removed)

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Quote from: glenn kangiser on October 21, 2011, 23:07:18

So your justification is only that they are not Americans, Native NM. 

As long as it is us doing the murdering elsewhere in the world it is good, eh?

That's a stretch, don't you think?  

My "justification" is that a dictator who has spent 40+ years in power by brute force, who has sponsored terrorism around the globe, blew planes from the sky, committed genocide on his own people, looted billions of dollars from the public treasury, and is otherwise a real SOB is hardly worth losing any sleep over.  And in case you missed it, he wanted to kill all of you infidels simply because you were American.  He stated, in fact, that even Muslims who relocated to America should die unless they embraced terrorizing the west.  

As for my opinion on war, its stated elsewhere - bring all the troops home now.  

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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #9 on: October 21, 2011, 09:43:19 PM »
Sassy -- it was a while back -- I have since verified by other sources the facts

He wasn't perfect but he did his best to make Libya a better place



Glenn

Powerful post -- I can find no words



I find it very sad that some Americans have sunk to levels of depravity that dismiss life as colateral damage



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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2011, 09:49:01 PM »

He wasn't perfect but he did his best to make Libya a better place


Neither was Hitler, but he did his best to make Germany a better place.   

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Re: Gadhafi Assassinated
« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2011, 09:53:59 PM »
When you hear it from Western News sources you can count that as a stretch.

I did find Hillary's death wish though.  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shirin-sadeghi/hillary-clinton-wants-gad_b_1020705.html

Sorry I haven't followed your opinion elsewhere as I am a bit out of touch working out of town.  

I agree... bring them home now.  We are powerful enough to protect our own country from here without killing all around the world.  We can get to problem areas in plenty of time and we don't need our troops guarding the Afghan Poppy fields anyway if we shut down the drug running.
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2011, 09:57:54 PM »
Neither was Hitler, but he did his best to make Germany a better place.   



That's all you have ?


that's all you have. 

 rofl

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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2011, 10:01:34 PM »
Thanks, Windpower.  That is the way I see it.  I haven't heard from Carol (mother)  in Uganda recently.  I hope she is OK but she is with the Government Ag department so hopefully they will be OK.

I heard from Seeng in Botswana a couple days ago.,  She is in mostly the safe areas though there is trouble there too.  I chat with her every couple of weeks.  She has a daughter about 15 years old.

I have a friend from Yemen I had to remind that the internet is a two way street and that his dissent here in college could be watched at home and he could be in for it when he got back.  He worked out a way to voice his opinion and stay out of trouble.  We are also killing in Yemen.  My friend thanked me several times.  Nice kid.  

I have personal friends in many countries, many of whom have shared our house and meals with us as well as hiking Yosemite.  I do not wish to lose any of them for any reason, especially an impersonal bombing.
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2011, 10:10:27 PM »
Glenn

you have been blessed with meeting people from other places around the world and being able to stay in contact with them

*envy*

so wonderful for you and Sassy

 

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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2011, 10:36:24 PM »
I have to agree with you, Windpower.

It makes it harder to see wars and senseless killing though.

It makes prejudice next to impossible.  I admit I am prejudiced though.  I despise those who look on other races and neighbors around the world as being less than we are.  I am prejudiced against bad people right here in the states even of my own race.  I am prejudiced against those of religious affiliations that will council our leaders and agree with them about killing our neighbors for any reason.  An infidel's missile or DU round kills now but our gift of DU in these countries continues killing nearly forever with mutations and birth defects. How proud should we be of that.

Look at the Libya Pix above.  Should that make US proud to be an American?... sing it, Lee Greenwood.....

I like this song better......Note the nice gift we gave to him...... click for the video

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« Reply #16 on: October 22, 2011, 06:48:33 AM »

Charmaine... what will she look like with a drone strike in her vicinity or one of our rounds through her face?


Do a quick Google image search of "Gadhafi atrocities" and see for yourself.  Make sure your Safe Search is turned off and that the kids are in bed.
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« Reply #17 on: October 22, 2011, 07:30:00 AM »
I really hate to be the one to point this out but Gadhafi isn't the only one whos ever committed atrocities. In fact the good ole USA has been guilty more than once. I'd be willing to bet there is hardly a government on earth today or in the past that wasn't just as guilty of killing and starving people.

I can hear the outcry already. THE USA would never do such things! Wanna bet? And yes I can prove it if you're to lazy to read the history for yourself.

THE UK is just as guilty. Don't belive it?

How bout France? Think they ever murdered anyone?

Russia?

Germany?

Mexico?

Spain?

The Vatican?

By your logic none of these countries should be spared the bombing either. Damn we're gonna need alot of bombs.

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« Reply #18 on: October 22, 2011, 07:47:49 AM »
Point is, why whitewash it? It is what it is. A war for control of the geopolitical landscape. Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan...name your favorite drone target of the week. The targets are always evil and NATO is always the hero on the white horse saving people from their brutal dictators. Too bad they need to be bombed into oblivion to save them, but that's how it goes.

This sort of thing has been going on for thousands of years. It's nothing new and it's far from over. All we, each of us need to do is decide if we like whats happening or not. To understad it you need to see whats really going on and why other countries get attacked. It really has nothing to do with saving people from brutal dictators.

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« Reply #20 on: October 22, 2011, 09:16:56 AM »
I'm an advocate for dissolving NATO, or at least demanding that is equally funded.  The non-sequiturs end up turning a discussion into little more than pages of "I know you are but what am I?"  

Frankly, I'm shocked that anyone, regardless of political ideology, would defend Gadhafi.
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« Reply #21 on: October 22, 2011, 09:24:37 AM »
Here's a list of evil doers to bomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_genocides#United_States_of_America

Well, since Gadhafi supported and help fund the regime that committed genocide in Rwanda, what are we arguing about?  He was an evil-doer and we eliminated him. 
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« Reply #22 on: October 22, 2011, 09:33:31 AM »
You are missing the point.

We didn't eliminate him because he was an evil doer.

And I wasn't defending Gadhafi, just pointing out the real reasons he got attacked.

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« Reply #23 on: October 22, 2011, 10:59:26 AM »
You are missing the point.

We didn't eliminate him because he was an evil doer.

And I wasn't defending Gadhafi, just pointing out the real reasons he got attacked.

Land grab? Oil? Late on his Visa bill?  Why do you think he was targeted?   
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« Reply #24 on: October 22, 2011, 10:59:40 AM »
Amazing what our administrations will tolerate and for how long.  Shoot, we'll even provide weapons, technology, and chemicals to many of them while they are committing genocide.  Interesting how all of those previously ignored characteristics suddenly become paramount when these nervy despots try to accept something other than US dollars in exchange for oil.  Surprising co-inky-dink, isn't it?
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