Conspiracy?

Started by Texas Tornado, June 06, 2011, 10:26:59 PM

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rwanders

Interesting article----first portion sounds like the writer has some realistic scenarios. However, I don't have independent knowledge to make a good judgment.  After that, the writer embarks on a rant based on his belief in a vast conspiracy to harm a very very small niche market. He segues from a seemingly rational and technical exposition into an agenda driven diatribe with no real evidence other than dubious assertions. and leaps of logic. Actually, this article is a model for many conspiracy enthusiasts----take a few facts, build a story at least believable on its' surface then slip seamlessly through the looking glass taking the reader further and further down the rabbit hole. The first part sets the reader up, garnering a few head nods as the discussion progresses---makes it easier to sell the later sophistry once the reader is thinking; This guy must know something----the last part must be true too.

Maybe, maybe not. The writer has some obvious biases----how have they have affected his analysis is unknown to us----he has made some extraordinary claims---they require extraordinary proofs. Not saying he is way wrong, just hasn't offered much verifiable proof to support his latter claims.

Best protection against being duped is to be skeptical of unsupported assertions and those with obvious agendas.  Unless you share their agenda, then you may become an easy sell.

The claim by professional con men that their easiest marks are other con men may be telling us something about those who so easily embrace conspiracy theories. Not that there's anything wrong with that.
Rwanders lived in Southcentral Alaska since 1967
Now lives in St Augustine, Florida


Sassy

With all the crackdowns on raw milk, supplements, etc.  I'm not surprised.  I suspected this all along.  If you've ever done much reading about Plum Island off of Long Island where the USDA & the military had a lab that studied zoonotics & tested microbes' ability to pass from animals to humans.

The lab started out state-of-the-art, but as you know with a lot of gov't projects, money gets scarce, things get lax - the lab worked w/some really strong bugs.  Lyme disease is suspected to have come from there due to the air vents/filters being old & poorly fitting.  Plum Island in on a major bird migratory path.  

Biochemical warfare has been studied at Ft Detrick which is close by.  Ft Detrick is where they traced the anthrax from after 9/11.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24065416/ns/health-infectious_diseases/t/govt-acknowledges-accidents-virus-lab/

http://wideeyecinema.com/?p=78   Interesting interview w/the author of Lab 257

I read the book a few years ago  
http://glennkathystroglodytecabin.blogspot.com/

You will know the truth & the truth will set you free

Windpower

#3
Since I have actually tried to produce anti-biotic resistant E Coli in a high school science experiment using penicillin
I can say for sure that it is not easy (admittedly this was in the dark ages of trechnology  ;D )

We did finally succeed (my biology teacher and I) but it was not a simple procedure.

Now to isolate a strain of E Coli that is resistant to all of the anti-biotics listed would be an extemely difficult project.

IIRC we estimated that to get just one colony of Penicillin resistant E Coli we had about a 1 in 10,000,000 chance in the wild strain we were using (I just googled this and it seems I remembered this correctly)

I do remember it was a LOT of plates and agar agar

now to get a strain that is resistant to 7 types of antibiotics would then put the odds on the order of  (1 X 10e7)e7

or 1 out of  1 followed by (7X7=49) 49 zeroes

(for comparison Avogodro's number (6 X 10e23)


not likely to happen by chance to say the least

If we can fairly safely rule out chance, what is left.  

This is the point Adams is making.

This strain of E coli did not just happen by accident -- it was produced by great level effort by someone with access to
very large resources for producing bacteria.

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Often, our ignorance is not as great as our reluctance to act on what we know.

Don_P

1 planet = many, many plates of agar agar... I wouldn't dismiss chance. Nature has all the time in the world.