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General Forum / Re: Septic leachfield vent
Last post by FredoN - Yesterday at 12:42:58 PM
From what I've seen, it really depends on the type of system and local regulations. Like others mentioned, conventional anaerobic systems usually don't require a dedicated vent on the leach field itself — most of the venting is handled through the plumbing vent stack in the house.

Where you do start seeing vents more often is with aerobic systems or certain engineered setups where airflow is part of how the system functions. In those cases, the vent is actually important, not just optional.

If your concern is mainly the look, a lot of installers will either:
- keep the pipe low and cap it
- place it in a less visible area
- or disguise it (landscaping, covers, etc.)

Removing it completely usually isn't a great idea if it's part of the system design, since it can affect how gases are released and how the system performs over time.

Also worth noting — sometimes issues people think are related to venting (odors, slow drainage, backups) can actually be tied to early-stage drainage problems or buildup elsewhere in the system. I came across a few good breakdowns on common water and drainage issues that helped clarify this:

https://austinhomewater.weebly.com/ 
https://centraltexaswaterguide.mystrikingly.com/blog/what-to-do-when-a-pipe-bursts?categoryId=800245 
https://austinwater-homeguide.blogspot.com/p/water-issues-in-austin-homes-and-how.html 

Might be worth a look depending on what you're trying to solve.

At the end of the day, I'd double check with your local code office before removing anything, but if it's just about appearance there are usually ways to make it a lot less noticeable without affecting the system 👍
#2
General Forum / Re: How much insulation on exp...
Last post by FredoN - Yesterday at 11:10:00 AM
You're already on the right track with insulation and heat tape, but the main issue here isn't just R-value — it's exposure and heat loss over that vertical section.

That 3 ft riser is basically acting like a cold bridge. Even with multiple layers of insulation, if the surrounding air is below freezing (especially with wind), the pipe will eventually lose heat faster than it can retain it.

A few things that usually make a big difference in setups like this:

- Blocking air movement is just as important as insulation (wind will kill your R-value) 
- Creating an enclosed "chase" or sleeve around the riser helps a lot 
- Extending insulation below grade (not just above) reduces heat loss at the transition point 
- Heat tape works, but like mentioned above, it's more of a safety net than a long-term solution 

The idea of using a larger pipe or boxed enclosure like lobster described is actually one of the more reliable approaches, especially if you can trap some warmer air from inside the cabin.

Also worth mentioning — even with PEX (which is more forgiving), repeated freeze/thaw cycles can still weaken fittings over time.

If that exposed section freezes completely, it can quickly turn into a burst pipe situation, especially in colder climates. In cases like that, this kind of issue usually needs proper burst pipe repair in Austin to avoid further damage.

In short, I'd focus less on adding more insulation layers and more on isolating that riser from cold air + sealing the space around it. That tends to be what really solves it long term 👍

#3
Owner-Builder Projects / Re: Okanogan 14x24 by a lurker...
Last post by OlJarhead - Yesterday at 07:56:57 AM
Oh it is :d and has been now for 15 years :D 
#4
Owner-Builder Projects / Re: Shed roof cabin constructi...
Last post by RandyRE41 - March 19, 2026, 12:29:56 PM
You'd typically use a birdsmouth at both ends of a shed-roof rafter so each end has a proper seat on the top plate. On the tall wall, it's still the same idea - the rafter gets a plumb cut for the wall line and a seat cut so it bears flat on the plate instead of just hanging off the face of the wall.

A couple things to watch:
  • Don't overcut the rafter for the birdsmouth.
  • Make sure you have enough bearing on both plates.
  • Add the proper hurricane ties / metal connectors to tie the rafters down.
  • Check your span, snow load, and local code before finalizing the cuts.

If the geometry gets awkward on the high side, some people use a ledger or dropped beam detail, but for a standard shed roof, two birdsmouth cuts is usually the normal approach.

I'd strongly recommend drawing one rafter full-size on plywood or on the floor first so you can test the fit before cutting the whole set.
#5
General Forum / Re: Looking for help on buildi...
Last post by RandyRE41 - March 19, 2026, 12:25:44 PM
A 16x36 cabin can work really well for what you're describing, and keeping it 16' wide is smart if you want to preserve the option of moving it later. If mobility is even a remote possibility, I'd be cautious about simple concrete pads/blocks alone for a structure that size. They can work for smaller sheds, but for a cabin you'll want something more stable and frost-resistant, like sonotube piers, helical piles, or an engineered pier system, depending on your soil and climate.

If you want to keep the lot buildable long-term, an elevated pier-style foundation makes a lot of sense and is much easier to remove than a full slab. I'd also think through access for a future move before final placement.

Your layout idea is very doable in 16x36. A main floor with one bedroom, bath, small kitchen, and open living area plus a loft for the second sleeping space would probably be the most efficient. Board and batten with a steel roof would fit the rustic look nicely, and an old cook stove could be a great feature as long as clearances, venting, and floor/wall protection are done properly.
Biggest advice: check setbacks, frost depth, and local code before committing to the foundation. That will drive the best answer more than anything else.
#6
General Forum / Re: Any suggestions on a lende...
Last post by RandyRE41 - March 19, 2026, 12:22:25 PM
To help clear up the terminology confusion: the reason you're seeing different down payments is entirely about the bank's risk.
  • Raw Land Loans (25-50% down): This is for land with absolutely nothing on it.. no roads, no power, no sewer. Banks view this as highly speculative, so they want a lot of your cash in the deal.
  • Lot Loans (10-20% down): This is exactly what you are looking at. Because the lot is in a development and already has water, power, and road access, it is considered "build-ready" or an "improved lot." The bank feels much safer lending on this, hence the lower down payment.
As for lenders, absolutely skip the national banks like Chase or BofA.. they generally hate land loans. Your best bet is to Google "Credit Unions" or "Community Banks" in the specific Idaho county where the lot is located. Local portfolio lenders actually want to finance local growth and will have the 10-20% lot loan products you need. (Also, Rothbard is 100% right.. read those HOA covenants carefully before you buy to make sure they allow your specific build plans!).

One longer-term tip regarding "improved" lots: If you plan on eventually using this property as a rental or investment (like an Airbnb/STR), keep a detailed paper trail of what you pay for the lot and the utilities/infrastructure.

While raw land itself can't be depreciated on your taxes, all those "land improvements" - like the grading, utility hookups, driveway paving, and fencing - absolutely can be. You can use a tax strategy called cost segregation to significantly accelerate the depreciation on those improvements and save a ton on taxes. I've used SMF Cost Segregation Advisors for my projects.
 The nice thing about them is they will run a free preliminary benefit analysis for you upfront, so you can see exactly what your tax savings would be before you ever commit to doing a full study.

Good luck with the Idaho lot hunt! Stick to the local credit unions and you'll find the financing you need.
#7
Owner-Builder Projects / Re: Okanogan 14x24 by a lurker...
Last post by RandyRE41 - March 19, 2026, 12:19:32 PM
Very nice - i am impressed. This is going to be an awesome spot for the family, I am sure 
#8
General Forum / Re: Building a severely simple...
Last post by RandyRE41 - March 19, 2026, 12:16:10 PM
Great points on the SIPs and slab-on-grade. That combination definitely shaves off a ton of framing time and foundation headaches when you're doing the heavy lifting yourself. Low-pitch asphalt is a smart, budget-friendly move too.
Totally agree on the cost segregation front.. it's a massive cheat code for freeing up cash flow if you're holding the property as a rental or investment. Just need to have REPS status if its a long term rental and of course need to materially participate. 

I saw you mentioned Cost Segregation Guys. I actually looked into them on my last build but ended up going with SMF Cost Segregation Advisors instead. I found SMF's process to be a bit smoother, mainly because they ran a free preliminary benefit analysis for me right out of the gate and I had a pretty nuanced tax circumstance as I needed to do a lookback study. It was incredibly helpful to see the exact estimated tax savings on paper before I had to commit or pay for the actual study and there was some adjustment they did to account for all the depreciation I didn't claim in the years prior.. 

Just throwing it out there as another option for anyone reading the thread who might be weighing their choices on the tax side. Good luck with the rest of the build!
#9
Owner-Builder Projects / Re: Okanogan 14x24 by a lurker...
Last post by Adam Raabe - March 03, 2026, 07:30:38 PM
See if this link works for you for: https://app.sketchup.com/app

They've really buried the free version (online only, and limited) but it still works for me when I don't need to export DWG's etc. 
#10
Owner-Builder Projects / Re: Okanogan 14x24 by a lurker...
Last post by OlJarhead - February 28, 2026, 08:42:59 AM
It's been a while :D so I thought I would toss out an update.

The foundation which is now about 23rds complete (the new foundation) and is entirely closed in now, has made a HUGE difference to overnight temperature swings and ease of keeping the cabin warm in the winter.  I know, I know, that was obvious but I didn't think it would make THAT much of a difference! ha ha

This spring we plan to finish the last 1 1/2 walls and add the foundation for the addition as well, which will be a 12x18 master and an 8x10 dinning area in an L shape around the East and South walls.  I used to have sketch up but it seems to no longer work and new versions they want you to pay or something....I might have to find something else so I can do a drawing.

We are also planning the first guest cabin which will be a D-log butt and pass style cabin in the 10x12 range.  Bascially a 'bedroom' cabin with a wood cookstove for heat, a bed, some chairs, maybe a counter of sorts and a power station to run things with a place to put a portable solar panel.  That way the power station and solar panel can be brought up when needed and removed when not there, making it secure :D

Meanwhile, my battle with the critters got a little higher tech :D