Refuse Mandatory Injections

[glenn kangiser]

hmm I thought the Apollo missions were all done on a movie studio lot out in the California desert.  I saw a clip of the lighting falling during the filming.  

Sorry I don't have time to jump in deeper.  I worked late and have to leave early.  Have fun.

[glenn kangiser]

A bad reaction to seasonal shots.  Disabled for life.

http://eclipptv.com/viewVideo.php?video_id=7833

Any experiences good or bad with the shots?

[glenn kangiser]

Judge Halts Flu Vaccine Mandate For Health Workers
New York Health Care Employees Won't Be Forced To Get H1N1 Vaccine...For Now

http://wcbstv.com/breakingnewsalerts/mandatory.h1n1.vaccine.2.1252672.html

[Pox Eclipse]

I got my seasonal shot last week.  No side effects, not even a sore arm.  I am trying to get my swine flu shot before I travel to California at the end of the month.

It now appears that the supply of swine flu vaccinations is being held up by manufacturing delays.  The government can't even manage their own evil plot efficiently!   

[glenn kangiser]

If you travel to California, you will need it, Pox.  There are a lot of swine here.

The plot.... it's like Russian Roulette.  They can't kill us all immediately.... that would be too obvious....

Thanks for the good report.

If you get near Yosemite, drop in.  We are nearby.

[Pox Eclipse]

Thanks Glenn, I would love to see the Hobbit Hole!  Unfortunately, I will be in mostly LA and behind the Orange Curtain (San Clemente), out to Victorville, and maybe as far north as Bakersfield. 

By they way, it's too bad you didn't go on that TV show, "What's Up With That House!".  I use to watch it all the time, you would be in good company!

[glenn kangiser]

Thanks, Pox.  The invite is always open if you make it this way.

We have been on a few other public things but I didn't figure the risks outweighed the benefits on that one.

[Sassy]

I posted this article a few months ago, worth reading about the CDC research...   http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/cidrap/content/influenza/panflu/news/jan1404hybrids.html  or go to http://www.augustreview.com/news_commentary/general/pandemic_nonsense:_flying_pig_flu_20090428118/ for more sources...  

CDC to mix avian, human flu viruses in pandemic study  (just a portion of article - go to link for entire article)

Robert Roos * News Editor

Jan 14, 2004 (CIDRAP News) – One of the worst fears of infectious disease experts is that the H5N1 avian influenza virus now circulating in parts of Asia will combine with a human-adapted flu virus to create a deadly new flu virus that could spread around the world.

That could happen, scientists predict, if someone who is already infected with an ordinary flu virus contracts the avian virus at the same time. The avian virus has already caused at least 48 confirmed human illness cases in Asia, of which 35 have been fatal. The virus has shown little ability to spread from person to person, but the fear is that a hybrid could combine the killing power of the avian virus with the transmissibility of human flu viruses.

Now, rather than waiting to see if nature spawns such a hybrid, US scientists are planning to try to breed one themselves—in the name of preparedness.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) will soon launch experiments designed to combine the H5N1 virus and human flu viruses and then see how the resulting hybrids affect animals. The goal is to assess the chances that such a "reassortant" virus will emerge and how dangerous it might be.

CDC officials confirmed the plans for the research as described recently in media reports, particularly in a Canadian Press (CP) story.

You won't be getting me or most of my co-workers (particularly the nurses) to take the H1N1 vaccine.  Many of those same nurses work at other hospitals & say that their co-workers won't be getting the vaccine.  We see too many people come in to the ER sicker than a dog after receiving the regular flu shots, let alone the H1N1 vaccine!  The patient's classic "haven't got a clue" comment "I just got the flu shot."

Thought this was worth posting again...

[glenn kangiser]

New info from Dr. Mercola and Dr Blaylock

http://products.mercola.com/swine-flu/20091103.htm

[glenn kangiser]

http://blogs.healthfreedomalliance.org/blog/2009/10/21/nurses-got-sick-from-the-swine-flu-vaccine-in-sweden-%e2%80%a2-update-190-adverse-reactions-1-suspected-death/

[JRR]

Hmmm, ... the USA has been slow to deliver the voluntary doses of H1N1 shots to citizens ... approx 4000 have died thusfar:
http://health.usnews.com/articles/health/healthday/2009/11/12/22-million-sickened-by-swine-flu-in-6-months.html.

... on the other hand, the more populous China, the biggest of the "Big Brothers", the most Satan of 'em all ... has, all along, been forcing vaccinations on its poor people.  According to the Public TV news today ... only 36 of those poor Chinese have died thus far from Swine Flu.  (Of course, these are probably all "lies"!)

Well, I ain't going to China ... and my government isn't gonna make the rest of you take the shot .... so, just like Pox Eclipse, I'm hunting the needle!

[glenn kangiser]

G/L JRR.  Here's hoping you have no problems.

Poland just said no to the vaccine for the entire country.

[Pox Eclipse]

Well, I finally got my swine flu shot.

I feel fine.  See for yourself:

[glenn kangiser]

Pox, you are looking damn good.  I think I may go get one now....

[glenn kangiser]

Two (Ohio) sheriffs deputies hold boy down while he was forcibly vaccinated w h1n1 swine flu shot

http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/16812

[glenn kangiser]

It's a government pushed scam among other things.  Check out the investigative report.  13700 suspected tested in Ca. 86% not flu at all.  Follow the money. 

From other sources, the politicians have stock in pharma co's.  Obama was reported to have stock in Baxter. 

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/24/Superstar-CBS-Reporter-Blows-the-Lid-Off-the-Swine-Flu-Media-Hype-and-Hysteria.aspx

[glenn kangiser]

Only posting to let you make your own informed decision.  I felt this was important enough for affected ones to consider.

Swine Flu Alert -- Shocking Vaccine Miscarriage Horror Stories‏

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/11/28/Shocking-Swine-Flu-Vaccine-Miscarriage-Stories.aspx

[Pox Eclipse]

Glen, I don't see anything in that story about miscarriages that shows that those who got swine flu shots had a higher rate of miscarriage than those who did not.  Did I miss something?

[RainDog]

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2116

Heh.

[glenn kangiser]

The About site has the stories of the miscarriages in the comments section.

A few:

October 9, 2009 at 2:41 pm
(1) Jo says:
I got the flu vaccine (regular not H1N1) at 8 weeks pregnant. Three days later I miscarried. I am not going to get the H1N1.
October 26, 2009 at 11:07 am
(2) Regrets says:
I got both vaccines on Thursday. I was 9 weeks pregnant. I miscarried on Sunday. I was told by several doctors to get these vaccines. Now I wish I followed my gut feeling and not get them at ALL!
October 29, 2009 at 8:33 am
(3) says:
i work in a hospital like setting and was told 'the benefits outweigh the risks" 1am i got the vaccine, 3am i started bleeding and craming, 3pm miscarried. you decide
October 31, 2009 at 1:29 pm
(4) sue says:
I had the H1N1 vaccination and 24 hours later had a miscarriage.
October 31, 2009 at 8:25 pm
(5) Linda Hill says:
My daughter in law was 10 weeks pregnant and had the H1N1 vaccine on Friday that night she miscarried.
November 1, 2009 at 9:58 pm
(6) Stephanie says:
I received the H1N1 over a week ago. I am now 5 weeks. I am doing well so far.

The story itself was only bringing up the fear.  The comments are the experiences.  Yeah - I know - it's the internet, but I doubt so many women would choose amuse themselves writing false miscarriage stories.

I didn't go through the other links.

[glenn kangiser]

http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=2116

Heh.

I liked this comment from your referenced link

"#
# Periwinkleblueon 16 Oct 2009 at 2:58 pm

Re: #4 – Did you miss the article on the WHO website admitting to the mock vaccines? Here you go:

http://www.who.int/csr/disease/swineflu/notes/h1n1_safety_vaccines_20090805/en/index.html

Some excerpts:

Ways were sought to shorten the time between the emergence of a pandemic virus and the availability of safe and effective vaccines. Different regulatory pathways were assessed, and precautions needed to ensure quality, safety, and effectiveness were set out in detail.

and

Also in Europe, some manufacturers have conducted advance studies using a so-called "mock-up" vaccine. Mock-up vaccines contain an active ingredient for an influenza virus that has not circulated recently in human populations and thus mimics the novelty of a pandemic virus. Such advance studies can greatly expedite regulatory approval.

Yep – there you go. I simply typed in "WHO admits mock vaccine" in Google and found it.

Anyone here want to sign up to be the next test vaccination receivers on the next "mock" vaccine in Europe?
"

While Dr. Mercola and others may get mud slung at them sometimes - maybe sometimes deservedly however I haven't noticed any mal-intent, it is safer to err on the side of caution and investigate the information and links they provide if you don't want to take their word for it - which you of course shouldn't.

Likewise, if the mud slingers are only saying what you thought you wanted to hear, then you should investigate their claims also and hopefully find a middle ground.

There is more information coming in on this untested vaccine all of the time.  Many of the guinea pigs are reporting problems.  Many are not.  A bit of Russian roulette, eh?

[Pox Eclipse]

I don't doubt that women have miscarriages after the flu shot.  They also have miscarriages after breakfast, after they have their hair done and after the Oprah Show.  Correlation does not imply causation.  Show me the miscarriage statistics on two groups; women who got the shot, and women who didn't.   If one group is bigger than the other I will be surprised, and I will concede the point if it is the group who got shots.  That is the way science works, not random anecdotal stories with no basis to determine whether they are significant or not.

[MountainDon]

Correlation does not imply causation.  Show me the miscarriage statistics on two groups; women who got the shot, and women who didn't.   

That is correct. Too many stats are bandied about with only a portion of the data shown.

[glenn kangiser]

Since the vaccine has not even been tested except with no risk government protection on citizen guinea pigs, then I would also have to say show me a study that proves the vaccine did not cause the miscarriages as these women state.

It does make sense to consider these women's experiences if the possibility that they are right exists.  

I think the doctor covered your comments in his article,

"Flu vaccine manufacturers clearly indicate that safety and effectiveness of their flu vaccines have not been established for pregnant women and nursing mothers. Ditto for their H1N1 vaccines.

   The source links above contain personal stories of heartbreak – women who lost their babies just hours or days after getting the H1N1 vaccine this year. Naturally, the standard comeback is that miscarriages are commonplace, and surely have nothing to do with the vaccine. However, to simply dismiss these events as "coincidences" is a serious mistake.

   Perhaps some of the 20 women on one of the blogs would have miscarried anyway, but when a number of women have healthy, uneventful pregnancies up until they're injected with a vaccine, and then suddenly miscarry, it most certainly warrants investigation!"

[Sassy]

The problem with what you just stated, Pox, is most docs won't admit that any reaction is caused from the vaccines.  Glenn's granddaughter had a febrile seizure a few hours after getting her cocktail of vaccinations a little over a year ago - the doc said it had nothing to do with the shot  

One of the docs I work with took her 4 y/o daughter to get her vaccinations - a couple days later, she had a nasty infection in her leg.  The pediatrician acted like the mother (a general practitioner) was stupid because she attributed the infection to the vaccine - after all, it occurred in the same place the vaccine was given.

One of my granddaughters had a red, very painful, swollen arm from her last cocktail of vaccinations.

NEVER has there been a time that kids got so many vaccines.  They give 3,4 & 5 vaccines together in one shot.  By highschool, if they get all the vaccines that they are told they need to get & most schools require that they get, they've rec'd 25 vaccines!  And they keep adding more all the time.  Check out CDC guidelines...

Common sense & good medicine should convince any intelligent, thinking person that giving all these vaccines to children with immature immune systems is not good, while at the same time, these children are being used as the test subjects cuz how else are they going to test all this stuff on kids...  The pharmaceutical companies & advertising - which underwrite medical schools & medical journals, tell the docs that more vaccines are good...  the docs have been indoctrinated & don't have time to study any alternative sources - especially so because they are blackballed if they speak out...  they just put their tail between their legs & carry on with the status quo...

I know many docs who would never follow the same guidelines for themselves they are told to apply to the patients.