Need book recommendation for pole frame building

Started by PunchAndJudy, November 08, 2011, 09:03:11 PM

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PunchAndJudy

I was going to build a small lofted gambrel building from plans.  The plans call for traditional stick building.  After studying the matter some, it appears that pole framing would be a less expensive option.  One of the reasons is, I have a lot of good lumber salvaged from a building I tore down.  I would be able to use a lot more of this salvaged lumber with pole framing than with stick building.  If I can get a book that covers the basics of modern pole frame construction, and includes plans for something similar to what I want, I'm pretty sure I could save a bundle.  I know most of what I need to know, but framing and attaching trusses is one of the areas where I have to study up. 

So, pole frame builders, what is your best book recommendation?

Thanks.

Don_P

If you're near St Louis this is coming up early next year;
http://nfba.org/uploads/NFBA_ExpoBrochure.pdf

This is the site map to the Frame Builder's association, there is alot of info there;
http://www.postframeadvantage.com/modules/pages/content/sitemap.cfm

These two standards are what changed the old farm pole barn to modern post frame, pretty heavy reading but they quantified post restraint and diaphragm stiffness.
http://bse.wisc.edu/bohnhoff/Publications/Copyrighted/EP486_1.pdf
http://bse.wisc.edu/bohnhoff/Publications/Copyrighted/558.pdf

If you look up papers by David Bohnhoff at UW-Madison or Harvey Manbeck at Penn State, these are the main engineering brains behind modern post frame development. I saw Manbeck will be in St Louis, I've been to one of his introductory sessions. I dug up his powerpoint and posted it here some time ago, it might show up in a search.

Edit;
Here's a list of Bohnhoff's papers; I see truss bracing and others that you were asking about;
http://bse.wisc.edu/bohnhoff/publications.htm

Edit 2;
Manbeck's papers... just titles to look for unfortunately;
http://www.abe.psu.edu/fac/Manbeck/publications.html


PunchAndJudy

Thanks.  :-)  The pdf for spliced nail laminated posts is going to be very helpful. 

Don_P

If you have a fast connection I got an email about 3 upcoming webcasts from the frame builders ass'n. My connection is too slow so I haven't watched any of those. These are an intro, design for archies and design for engineers. If you're interested pm me your email and I'll forward the note.

Alan Gage

How big is your build? Every penny counts but I think you'll find in the end that the lumber used to construct the frame is one of the cheaper parts of the build. Studs are cheap and so is sheathing. I tore down my existing house and salvaged enough lumber to frame and sheath the exterior walls. I was happy to reuse the lumber instead of let it go to waste and it was nice to save the money. But when I added it up I didn't save a whole lot, especially in comparison to all the other costs.

I don't know anything about pole framing, if it's easier or harder, but there's definitely something to be said for doing the "normal" thing, especially when you don't really know what you're doing. It's much easier to find information on your own and to get advice from others.

Alan


bayview

    . . . said the focus was safety, not filling town coffers with permit money . . .

PunchAndJudy

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Quote from: Alan Gage on November 10, 2011, 05:58:09 PM
How big is your build? Every penny counts but I think you'll find in the end that the lumber used to construct the frame is one of the cheaper parts of the build. Studs are cheap and so is sheathing.

Hi Alan.  Thanks for your reply.

To some people, that stuff is cheap.  To me, none of it is cheap.    [noidea'

My Father is an old junkman.  My Mother is the child of a man who owned his own garbage route.  Half our house was built from salvaged materials and furnished with salvaged items, and it stood for over 50 years.  :)  Craigslist, dumpster diving, curbside crawling...I can be very resourceful, when I have to be.  It's in my genes. 

Peace, love and sunflower seeds.   ;) 



PunchAndJudy

Quote from: bayview on November 10, 2011, 07:31:05 PM
Pole Building Construction

http://www.scribd.com/doc/11992924/Pole-Building-Construction

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Thanks for your reply, bayview.  :)

I've got that one.  It's not really as descriptive as I need it to be.  It's also kind of dated.  Basic principles are the same I suppose, but it really just lacks details I need.

BTW, if anyone needs one, I found a thoroughly decent recipe for making...creepersote.  (I think c r e o s o t e might be illegal to treat posts with now, and I don't do illegal things.   ;)  )

Erin

Creosote is still used on a regular basis...   
Not particularly healthy stuff, but it's perfectly legal.
The wise woman builds her own house... Proverbs 14:1