Just Released: Dash Cam Video of Oklahoma Trooper Vs. EMT

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IronRanger

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Some stories on Policing the Pervs, err, rather Perv Police.

Former Police Captain Admits to Child Sex Abuse

http://ozarksfirst.com/fulltext?nxd_id=358816

Former sheriff's deputy pleads guilty to child porn charges

http://www.argusleader.com/article/20101119/UPDATES/101119028/1003/BUSINESS

Former trooper unable to get name off sex offender list

http://www.herald-mail.com/?cmd=displaystory&story_id=256997&format=html
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http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/manhattan/kiddie_pawn_shock_KnKyQ0JfMITAIqGawRJf8J
A group of old men busted for playing chess in an area where adults must be accompanied by a kid under 12.

Problem with this is that a pedophile with ....say a six year old, would have been legal there.
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IronRanger

Quotemust be accompanied by a kid under 12.

Wow.   >:(

Thanks for the injusticeeverywhere.com link, Glenn.

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Thought you might like it - had to look it up as I saw it yesterday.
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HoustonDave

Here's an interesting tidbit:

QuotePlatke, 49, the owner of the Shell station on Arsenal Street, claimed the man seen being hit by Ries was being disruptive that night and was struggling with the officer.

Platke said he was not at the station that night but had spoken to two employees and had viewed security camera footage. He later provided footage to the Post-Dispatch, but it was grainy and the view of the altercation was largely obstructed.

"The guy was plainly drunk," Platke said. "Inebriated." He said the man's friends got him outside but he continued to cause problems, struggling with his friends. That's when Ries intervened, according to Platke.

"The officer grabbed him and tried to get him to come out of the car. The guy fell onto his chest and locked his arms around this officer's ankles and would not let go," Platke said. Ries "was there with his feet locked together, screaming at this guy to let go. He used his baton to try to hit him to get him to let go. He finally had to use (pepper spray) and the guy finally let go."

Blaine Thompson, 21, of south St. Louis County, said he was the designated driver for the man who was beaten and two friends. He would not identify his friends but said they were cooperating with the police investigation.

Thompson said Ries had been justified to "take action." As for the use of force, he said, "It's not really my call."

He agreed with Platke that the man who was beaten had been grabbing the officer's legs. He declined to say more, saying officers had asked him not to speak to the media.

So the guy who got beat's designated driver says the officer was justified to "take action" and backs up the officer's statement that the guy grabbed the officers legs and would not let go.

But on the other hand, this is the third complaint against that officer for using baton and pepper spray.

I don't think being an a**hole and holding on to a police officer's ankles justifies baton and pepper spray.  He could have subdued him some other way.
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IronRanger

QuoteThe guy fell onto his chest and locked his arms around this officer's ankles and would not let go...

To me, this is the crux of an argument against pepper spraying and a beating.  The guy falls out of the car on to his chest (whilst being yanked from the car by the officer) and grabs the cop's ankles.  It seems, to me, that the guy was just grabbing whatever was in-front of him because he was drunk and scared.  If he was trying to wrestle the officer to the ground, fine, pepper spray and/or give him a wonk or two.  But seven times and pepper sprayed while hanging on to his ankles?  Pffffftttttt.  In the video, it didn't look like the cop was struggling to maintain his footing.


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IronRanger

Fell asleep at Denny's?  You're gettin' tased.

http://www.nwcn.com/home/?fId=115247239&fPath=/news/local&fDomain=10202

QuotePORTLAND, Ore. -- A jury has awarded $30,500 in economic damages to a man who was tased by a Portland police officer inside a Denny's restaurant.

The city of Portland was found liable for battery, but not liable for false arrest or malicious prosecution in the case.  Jurors determined that Officer Kevin Tully had a right to arrest Jason Elgin after he fell asleep at a Southeast Portland Denny's.  However, they also believed Tully went to far when he tased Elgin 2 times on the floor during the arrest.

"I'm happy with how it turned out," said Elgin. "I really wanted to speak on behalf of the public that the force was not needed." 

"I'm gratified the jury found no force was required, because a hell of a lot of force was used," said Greg Kafoury, the plaintiff's attorney.

Elgin's civil claim against the city for false arrest, battery and malicious prosecution originally asked for $300,000 for pain and suffering and legal fees.

While officer Tully declined to comment, his attorney did.  "Mr Tully's actions were a reaction to what Mr. Elgin was doing and they were proportional, including the use of the taser," said Bill Manlove, Tully's Attorney. 

Security video from two different camera angles showed 32-year-old Jason Elgin and a fellow student from Portland Community College at the restaurant in 2009, where they appeared to be asleep.

The two went to the Denny's in Southeast Portland at about 2 a.m. Elgin claimed they were exhausted after celebrating the end of midterms.

The manager at Denny's called police to see if they could help wake them up.

Officer Kevin Tully can be seen approaching the students. The video does not show Elgin being tased. There is a gap during the actual tasing and take-down.  "The tape really upsets me, because honestly you can't really see what's going on," said Elgin. "It was the independent witnesses that made the difference in this case."

From another angle, Elgin can be seen on the floor. His classmate testified she woke up to hear Elgin screaming.

The city's attorney said the video shows that Elgin provoked the arrest by resisting.

Several witnesses who were inside have testified that virtually everything officer Tully said was faulty.

Elgin was tased by officer Tully two times and was charged with trespass, disorderly conduct, resisting arrest, harassment and interfering with a police officer.

All the charges were dropped.
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IronRanger

Ex-Police Officer Now Convicted Sex Offender

Quote"...A Channel 2 Investigation last year revealed Palmarini had a history of questionable sexual behavior on the job, with multiple allegations of sexual assaults while he worked for several police departments."

http://www.wsbtv.com/news/27364378/detail.html
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