20x30 1 1/2 story in Northern PA

peteh2833 · February 23, 2009, 08:12:43 PM

I just stopped the insulation and baffles short because I don't have the sofit and facia done yet. I just blocked the ends with insulation to keep the cold air out now. In the spring when I put the metal on I'll do the sofit and facia and then finish the insulation and baffles. I'm going to use a mixture of drywall and 3/4 T&G on the walls. The end walls upstairs will be drywall as well as the divider wall. The rest upstairs will be T&G. Down stairs will be mostly drywall because there is already alot of wood and the floors will be wood and ceramic tile. Thanks. Pete

wed68 · February 24, 2009, 07:39:34 AM

Pete..... I love the cabin, I am currently building a 18X26 on Toledo Bend lake in Central Louisiana, I have a few questions if you dont mind!

What thickness is the T&G boards your using in the upstairs? Is it solid enough with the 32" centers, I really like the look and would love to copy it!

Thanks in advance and keep the pictures coming

February 24, 2009, 08:07:17 AM

wed68, If you are talking about the T&G on the floor it is 2x6 T&G Pine. I think you can even go with a large span with the 2x6 T&G but I kept it at 32" OC. The loft floor upstairs is very solid and has no bounce or deflection. I will be using 3/4 T&G on the loft knee wall and ceiling. Any other ?'s just ask. Pete

wed68 · February 24, 2009, 08:40:34 AM

Thanks for the quick reply, I may try to start my own build thread soon.

Where did you get the 2x6 T&G? Custom milled?

peteh2833 · February 24, 2009, 10:54:41 AM

No, got it from the local Lumber Yard. Not Home Depot or Lowes but a local store that sells mostly lumber. Pete

March 10, 2009, 11:11:14 AM

I made it up to camp on Thursday and Friday last week. Here are some pics of the progress. I know it doesn't look like much but I got alot done. I finished the loft floor and we finished most of the wiring on the 1st floor and in the loft. I still have some wiring to do. I also started installing the PEX Tubing for the plumbing and got the hot water tank in.

MountainDon · March 10, 2009, 12:49:18 PM

It's coming right along Pete. The wiring and plumbing take longer than what the finished results would indicate. Have you started the DWV piping? It's usually best to get those things in place before the wiring and the PEX as DWV doesn't bend as easily as the other.

peteh2833 · March 10, 2009, 06:38:46 PM

I have most of the drain pipes ran under the camp. I did this before I put the subfloor down. I have no codes so I will be using Studer Valves as vents. Thanks Don. Pete

Redoverfarm · March 10, 2009, 06:48:18 PM

Pete I think I would re-think the vent stack. I have heard that they (Studer) are no subsitute for main lines only hard to service items away from the main works. It is really no problem with a vent stack and the metal roof. They make inexpensive boots to use for metal. And yes they do go bad. If you haven't run your DMV then I would consider a vent.

March 11, 2009, 07:24:24 AM

Redoverfarm, The only problem I have is that I have no common chase to the roof. The bathroom wall is right over a beem and there is no wall above it. The small camp I have now has no vents and works well. Do you think it will be a problem with no vents???

Redoverfarm · March 11, 2009, 07:39:05 AM

Might want to drop a PM to ScottA and run it past him as he is a plumber. Personally it was trouble for me as well but I worked through it. Mine was open beam and I dropped the ceiling in one area to take care of getting it to the roof. If you had something to look at I am sure he could give some good advice. With the Studor I was told they they can go bad and it needs air to draw. Therefore you can't put them in partitions that are sealed up. You wouldn't want to anyway to have access anyway.

peteh2833 · March 11, 2009, 11:09:24 AM

Thanks. I'm going up on Thursday/Friday again and I'll try to map it out. Pete

MountainDon · March 11, 2009, 11:25:00 AM

There is a reason the Studer valves have threads for installation. They are designed for replacement when they fail.

MountainDon · March 11, 2009, 11:34:19 AM

Here's a link to the specification sheet for the Mini-Vent. It is a PDF file.

The installation instructions state: "a minimum of one vent shall extend to the open atmosphere for every building drainage system." among other things.

FWIW, here's a really old thread on them
http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=612.0

March 11, 2009, 01:06:04 PM

Sorry guys but what is DWV piping

MountainDon · March 11, 2009, 01:26:37 PM

DWV = drain waste vent

peteh2833 · March 11, 2009, 07:54:34 PM

Thanks for the info Don. Pete

John_M · March 12, 2009, 09:42:23 AM

Quote from: MountainDon on March 11, 2009, 01:26:37 PM
DWV = drain waste vent

That's one of those things that seems so obvious afterwards!!!

ScottA · March 12, 2009, 02:05:44 PM

That's ok it's plumber lingo. You can't expect to know everything.

pete I recommend you try to get one vent out somewhere. The toilet vent is the one I'd pick. Also don't seal a studor vent up inside a wall.

I just finnished mine and they all go outside. It can be done but can take some creativity.

peteh2833 · March 13, 2009, 03:15:32 PM

I might be able to get the toliet and bathroom sink vented out. Also maybe the shower and washer on another line. But the kitchen sink I won't be able to. Pete

March 13, 2009, 03:19:35 PM

Sounds like a plan Pete. I can't get my kitchen sink to outside either (Island) so Studor it is.

peteh2833 · March 14, 2009, 08:10:00 PM

I made it up to camp on Thursday and Friday. Didn't get much work done. I cleaned up some outside since it was nice out and all the snow was gone. I haven't seen the ground since early November !!!! I built a small knee wall that is actually 36" high instead of a railing in the loft by the stairs to keep my young children from going over it an falling down the stairs. I also got some of the insulation in the walls. Also, I woke up Friday morning and was having a power problem. I called the power Company and they sent someone out after I left for home. They called on my way home to tell me that I had a bad Lug in the base for my meter and that I needed a new base for the meter. So they pulled the meter and disconnected the power at the weather head and stated that I could call when I had the new base installed and they would turn the power back on. Oh ya, and by the way there is a $50 reconnect few. Here are some Pics. Pete

Redoverfarm · March 14, 2009, 08:42:01 PM

Nice work Pete. When you get it all buttoned up that stove will probably run you out of there.

peteh2833 · March 15, 2009, 06:30:03 AM

Yes it will and my wife will love it because she is always cold !!!!!!

peteh2833 · March 27, 2009, 05:36:52 PM

Made it up to camp on Thursday and Friday. I got my new meter base installed and got the power back on. Of course it poured when I was working on it. I got some small stuff done like cleaning up the mess from several projects, finished some wiring, some more insulation installed and worked on the drain waste lines. The drain lines took awhile to do since all of the work was from under the camp on my back !!! I got the toliet installed and the bathroom vanity drain line installed. Only a couple more to go. Here are a few pics. Pete