Refuse Mandatory Injections

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Quote from: peternap on August 18, 2009, 08:55:24 PM
I think everything increases the chance of cancer. :-\


Even Cancer?  :P

Don't know if this was linked to, but it's a short video about the flu shot from a comedy show that used to be on here in Canada.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWfCnjnShnM

glenn kangiser

As usual - I hope to stay well by avoiding doctors.

Doctors kill more people than guns or so I read. [waiting]
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peternap

Quote from: glenn kangiser on August 18, 2009, 11:55:37 PM
As usual - I hope to stay well by avoiding doctors.

Doctors kill more people than guns or so I read. [waiting]

You know, there's a lot of truth in that Glenn.
My observation of Doctors is that they are self centered, greedy, unfeeling, SOB's. They could care less if you live or die, just as long as the insurance company covers the bill.

That is in direct contrast to Nurses who I've found to be the real humanitarians of the trade. Unfortunately, they are so restricted by rules and regulations, generally made by Doctors....that they can't legitimately do the job they are so good at. >:(

My rant of the day!
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

glenn kangiser

Vaccine induced disease outbreaks .... they care .... yeah....right. [waiting]

http://www.rense.com/general87/indu.htm
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ScottA

I don't know why people are waiting for them to actualy do it. The fact that they are making these laws should be proof enough. The republic is toast. It's all over baby, the whole damn country is in denial. In all these years we never needed such a law and now all the sudden???? Get real!

glenn kangiser

Totally agreed, Scott.

This is not the country my great grandparents risked their lives for, lost their children for (5 of them), and pioneered.  That country has been stolen.

I'm sure Germany was like this as Hitler grabbed the power.  The citizens could see no wrong.  They were part of the greatest country on earth in their own eyes.  How could there be corruption in their leadership?

Our citizens have been programmed to rely on the government to take care of them.  If they don't snap out of it they will become the next victims....just like the German population.
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Pox Eclipse

Quote from: glenn kangiser on August 30, 2009, 08:16:25 AM

This is not the country my great grandparents risked their lives for, lost their children for (5 of them), and pioneered.  That country has been stolen.


Just for the record, you are talking about America, right?  The America whose first president George Washington declared martial law, and personally commanded 12,000 federal troops to occupy Pennsylvania to collect taxes?  That's the same country your grandparents risked their lives for, right?

Some reading about your country may be in order:

The Whisky Rebellion

glenn kangiser

#33
A tax to pay off the national debt... no chance of that happening now ... impossible as there is not that much money in the universe.  

I'm not just picking on Obama, Pox.  

I am talking about the whole political, financial and military industrial complex that is in charge now.  Bush had the same puppetmasters.

Actually my ancestors left Lithuania to get out from under Russian oppression and the country they came to was supposed to be a land of freedom and who knows  - maybe at that time there was actually an American dream.  

I can't help that many of our leaders have trampled on our Constitutional rights and other laws and ideals that this country was founded on.  Corruption is hereditary in politicians.

BTW - thanks for the link to the story.  A good one.  My relatives would have been the unjustly overtaxed citizens but they didn't get here until 1889.

I see that true patriotic citizens resisted the Fed successfully there too .... what a great ending.
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Pox Eclipse

48,161,019 Americans received the 1976 swine flu shot.  There were 512 cases of Guillain-Barré syndrome linked to the vaccination.  That's one in 94,000.  The CDC predicts that 50% of the country will contract H1N1 virus; my wife has pulmonary fibrosis and alveolitis as a result of scleroderma.  I've done the math; we are getting the vaccination.

glenn kangiser

I hope the vaccination helps her with no bad side effects.  Please keep us posted.  I can see your position also.
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Virginia Gent

Quote from: Pox Eclipse on August 30, 2009, 01:32:31 PMJust for the record, you are talking about America, right?  The America whose first president George Washington declared martial law, and personally commanded 12,000 federal troops to occupy Pennsylvania to collect taxes?  That's the same country your grandparents risked their lives for, right?

Some reading about your country may be in order:

The Whisky Rebellion

By Federal Troops, you mean militia from several states who happened to be under the command of the President and those appointed by him right? According to that article, and Wikipedia isn't the best source to be citing mind you considering anyone can edit it, they didn't occupy, but merely ran around wasting money & time looking for the agitators, of which only 20 were found and only two of those 20 were actually arrested, one later sent free. As that article states, they were exercising their power, which they were in the right to do mind you. As is the way of the Federal Government however, it wasn't handled in the best way possible, mainly that it got involved in something it probably shouldn't have. Not to mention Congress dropped the ball drafting the legislation the way they did. Of course those who rebelled didn't help either, attacking tax collectors and those who were complying with the new federal tax; they were violating those people's and company's rights. That's not a good way to win people over to your side.

I digress, however. I shall not be getting the injection, but all those who do I wish you best and a healthy life  ;D
"I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending too much liberty than to those attending too small a degree of it."
~Thomas Jefferson~


glenn kangiser

I also hope any partakers have a good experience but the facts don't agree with the hype.

Flu vaccines for fun and profit, eh?

http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2009/09/26/Flu-Vaccine-Exposed.aspx

Watch the video in the above link if you have time.
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The Sheriff says they can stop forced vaccinations as they are not sworn to the Federal government.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzC7dmyKG4E
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muldoon

interesting piece of research out from canada.  reputable news source and government agencies, paper is peer reviewed. 

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/technology/science/study-prompts-provinces-to-rethink-flu-plan/article1303330/

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A "perplexing" Canadian study linking H1N1 to seasonal flu shots is throwing national influenza plans into disarray and testing public faith in the government agencies responsible for protecting the nation's health.

Distributed for peer review last week, the study confounded infectious-disease experts in suggesting that people vaccinated against seasonal flu are twice as likely to catch swine flu.

The paper is under peer review, and lead researchers Danuta Skowronski of the British Columbia Centre for Disease Control and Gaston De Serres of Laval University must stay mum until it's published.

Met with intense early skepticism both in Canada and abroad, the paper has since convinced several provincial health agencies to announce hasty suspensions of seasonal flu vaccinations, long-held fixtures of public-health planning.

"It has confused things very badly," said Dr. Ethan Rubinstein, head of adult infectious diseases at the University of Manitoba. "And it has certainly cost us credibility from the public because of conflicting recommendations. Until last week, there had always been much encouragement to get the seasonal flu vaccine."

On Sunday Quebec joined Alberta, Saskatchewan, Ontario and Nova Scotia in suspending seasonal flu shots for anyone under 65 years of age. Quebec's Health Ministry announced it would postpone vaccinations until January, clearing the autumn months for health professionals to focus on vaccinating against H1N1, which is expected to the more severe influenza strain this season.

"By the time the H1N1 wave is over, there will be ample time to vaccinate for seasonal flu," Dr. Rubinstein said.

B.C. is expected to announce a similar suspension during a press conference Monday morning.

Other provinces, including Manitoba, are still pondering a response to the research.

New Brunswick is a lone hold-out, announcing last week it would forge ahead with seasonal flu shots for all residents in October, as originally planned.

So far, the study's impact is confined to Canada. Researchers in the U.S., Britain and Australia have not reported the same phenomenon. Marie-Paule Kieny, the World Health Organization's director of vaccine research, said last week the Canadian findings were an international anomaly and could constitute a "study bias."

An international panel is currently scrutinizing the research data. "The review process has been expedited, so we're hoping for a response within days," said Roy Wadia, spokesman for the B.C. Centre for Disease Control.

Dr. Rubinstein, who has read the study, said it appears sound.

"There are a large number of authors, all of them excellent and credible researchers," he said. "And the sample size is very large – 12 or 13 million people taken from the central reporting systems in three provinces. The research is solid."

The vaccine suspensions do not apply for people over 65. Seniors are considered more susceptible to severe seasonal flu symptoms. At the same time, they carry antibodies from a 1957 pandemic that seem to neutralize the current version of H1N1.

Even if the statistical link is proven, the medical link between seasonal flu shots and H1N1 remains mysterious. One hypothesis suggests seasonal flu vaccine preoccupies the cells that would otherwise produce antibodies against H1N1.

But, according to Dr. Rubinstein, the research shows that people who received the seasonal shot during the 2007-08 flu season remained vulnerable to swine flu well into 2009 – an interval that should provide most immune systems ample restoration time.

"We don't understand the mechanism," Dr. Rubinstein said. "At the present time it is quite perplexing."

Bobmarlon

Muldoon I live in B.C and I was reading through to see if anyone has mentioned this but you had. 

Where I live flu vaccines are being suspended because they think they are causing H1N1

but there isnt much news or worry about swine flu here Im pretty sure its all made up. 

glenn kangiser

That was the plan all along.  There are too many of us.  That is why it is threatened to be made mandatory.  Baxter admitted sending out live virus to get a jump on the flu bug... but only after they were caught.
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Windpower

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http://spktruth2power.wordpress.com/2009/09/28/navy-ships-breaking-out-with-swine-flu-after-h1n1-vaccinations-five-turning-back-from-mission/#


Data gleaned indirectly from anonymous testimony of Navy wives of the affected crew via the internet radio show A Marine Disquisition!

From Bob Chapman's International Forecaster

1) Unnamed US Navy vessel put to sea in April with 347 man crew.

2) Entire crew was vaccinated with H1N1 Swine Flu vaccine shortly after they put to sea.

3) Crew sickened so severely that other ships had to respond to render aid. 16 Medical Dr.s put aboard from an unnamed aircraft carrier and other responding vessels. Total of 50 Navy personnel sent aboard to respond to crisis.

4) Two of the crew of 347 died – including the Captain of the ship (a Lieutenant Commander) and a Chief Petty Officer.

5) 50 personnel sent aboard to help are quarantined in Navy hospital in Balboa, Spain after 10 of them caught the flu from the ship's crew. Two of the 50 quarantined are in serious condition at last report.

6) Of the 347 man crew that were vaccinated, 333 contracted the H1N1 flu FROM THE VACCINE. Two died, as mentioned above, and 331 survived. Only 14 of the 347 vaccinated sailors did not show any ill effects from the vaccine.

7) Navy has threatened all the spouses of the ship's crew to remain silent – claiming all this information is classified. Some are whistle-blowing and that is where this information is coming from.

8) On the unnamed aircraft carrier that provided assistance, 415 sailors contracted the swine flu and are currently quarantined onboard.

9) The truth is that the swine flu epidemic will be created BY THE VACCINE. If we don't take it, there will be no epidemic. From this one test it's apparent that the vaccine as tested on that ship's crew in April is 96% effective at infecting the recipient with swine flu. Such an infection rate is impossible to achieve by any natural means. Though it only killed 1% immediately, there is no telling what the long term effects on those injected with the vaccine will be. See the research on the long term effects of the 1976 swine flu vaccine, and the Gulf War anthrax vaccine programs for more information.

10) Also note that mere contact with those that have been vaccinated creates a 20% chance of you contracting the swine flu even if you have not been vaccinated.

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Squirl

Quote from: glenn kangiser on October 02, 2009, 12:39:44 AM
http://www.timesnews.net/blogger.php?id=4&postid=7522

Swine flu vax refusal tea party.... [waiting]
rofl [rofl2]

I was trying to stay out of this one,  but I lost it at this.  So a large group of people who are against immunization want to congregate during flu season? 
rofl

Also number 10 on the list above, people that are being vaccinated are people most at risk, like children and the elderly.  So even if they weren't vaccinated and you had regular contact with children or the elderly you would be more likely to contract any virus.  The claims of this guy seem to over the top to be credible.  The vaccine has already been given to tens of thousands of children and pregnant woman.  Even if you were to believe that Mid twenties healthy men are as likely to die from H1N1 as pregnant woman and children, we would already be stacking the bodies high and deep right now.  Along these same claims 4-9 year olds are being vaccinated in a 2 part vaccination this week.  At a 96% infection rate and a higher mortality rate for children, this means in the next two weeks we should have a few hundred thousand children dead.

I will let you know how it works out. Maybe I will be in the 4% that don't get it.

glenn kangiser

We will watch you and Pox, Squirl.  :)

Windpower,

I posted this once but apparently military put out a counter story claiming this one was a hoax.  

It is now my opinion that the counter story is a hoax and that this is the true story as more and more whistle blowers come forward indicating that the original story was true.

This agrees with the story that the Vaccine is a bio-weapon meant to create the pandemic and with the resurection of the 1918 virus a few years ago from DNA.  I knew at the time I heard of this absurd criminal act that it would appear in our near future as part of a population control ploy.  

We have to look at our criminal leadership and their associates for what they really are if we want to increase our chances of survival for a longer period of time.  We must keep our eyes open and not only see what we want to believe is true.  Our leadership and their associates are not benevolent.

They have the money and power.  We are breathing their air.  We must be made to stop.
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Squirl

Now, I don't want you to get from my posts that I disagree with naysayers.  It was the people who didn't go with the company line that exposed tobacco, asbestos, and many other problems.  But the logic seams to have some flaws.  If it was for population control, why would they give it to the military?  Disabling the military industrial regime seems counter intuitive to creating a pandemic.  That just seams like anarchy.  According to the article over 30,000 troops are disabled.  Isn't that equivalent to 1/4 of our forces in Iraq and more than the entire force in Afghanistan.  The military can't even control those countries and they are a tiny portion of the size of the U.S.