Toward a North American Union

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Amanda_931

Even if you don't really care if this country keeps its sovereignty by going on the way it's going, that superduperhighway idea is atrocious.

And about 35 years out of date.  Not to mention splitting the country in two or three.  

If they really wanted to do it right, four or so railroad tracks would use less energy, probably get more use as oil peaked and became much more expensive.  With, not roads passing over it, but underpasses--and run the rails more or less above ground when possible.  Putting containers or trailers on the rail cars.

There are a handful of science fiction stories set in some basically post-holocaust world.  In them people sometimes go from one place to another using the remnants of some kind of superhighway, amazed at what their forefathers had built.  This thing might be in that condition before it even gets built!

Sassy

MtnDon, have you looked at any of the links posted here?


MountainDon

QuoteMtnDon, have you looked at any of the links posted here?
Oh, yes Sassy. I have. I simply haven't been able to put together a printable comment. Till now.   :)

MountainDon

#56
Reaction from a few states
http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom83.htm

More on the "Amero"
http://www.amerocurrency.com/

(this thread seems to have much in common with...
http://www.countryplans.com/cgi-bin/yabb2/YaBB.pl?num=1177694637 )

Leo

Im in the latest rust buckets company's that made parts for the big three auto makers,while the honda plant in maryssville keeps growing ,went up on a hill overlooking the once mighty Bethlehem steel company to the rusting plants in Chicago.textile mills new england and mid Atlantic..my time in this area is limited but the tension in those I work with is high.printing now all done down in another country?

Sassy

#58
Destruction of the Mexican Peso 1910-2006

Interesting article on currency destruction - wonder what's happening to the US dollar?

Hugo Salinas Price, president of La Plata in Mexico, gives a succinct history of how the central Bank of Mexico destroyed the value of the Mexican Peso. In light of the proposed North American Union, which will join the economies of Mexico, Canada and the U.S. together, understanding currency destruction is essential!

John Maynard Keynes: "Lenin was certainly right, there is no more positive, or subtle means of destroying the existing basis of society than to debauch the currency. By a continuing process of inflation, governments can confiscate secretly and unobserved an important part of the wealth of the citizens. The process engages all the hidden forces of economics on the side of destruction, and does it in a manner that not one man in a million can diagnose" (Economic consequences of the Peace)  (I am indebted to Bill Murphy of GATA, for this quote, at www.lemetropolecafe.com)  article continued at link above


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Sassy

http://www.augustreview.com/news_commentary/north_american_union/giuliani_linked_to_nafta_superhighway_2007051459/

I guess Rudy Giuliani's lawfirm is representing Cintra, the company from Spain who have contracted with the politicians to build the trans Texas corridor.
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benevolance

I like the Highway....Looks great....

Might bring some economic development to the area

I would prefer a rail line being built where passenger trains could travel on the tracks as well as freight...

I believe that trains should eclipse long haul truckers for moving freight...Cleaner for the environment....We could reduce dependency on fossil fuels as well....

Instead of massive road monstrosities like the one sassy posted I would like to see massive and I mean massive pipelines built for pumping water inland from the ocean....Where it could be de-salinated and used for irrigation, sewage treatment, drinking water, replenishing ground water levels...etc...

Water is going to be worth more and more... Investing in water infrastructure is never a bad idea.... We should be looking for ways to pipe more water inland cheaper...To grow more food and stabilize food prices worldwide...

As oil runs out and fuel costs get more insane...We will need cheap abundant food supplies to avoid world hunger...

We hear talk of a green economy...More water for the arid regions means more vegetation less land lost to desertification...Less pollution...

Texas is half coastline....Limitless potential for building irrigation and water pipelines.... Mexico has both sides surrounded by ocean.... California has massive access to the ocean...Arizona has close by salt water in the baja....

these states need to focus on securing massive amounts of water for future development...

we keep reading reports of lake levels at all time lows...Cities in the west running out of water like Phoenix and Vegas.... And at the same time ocean levels are going to rise because of global warming...

Why not use the extra sea water to quench the thirst of the west?

I am sure that for the cost of a new nucular submarine or an aircraft carrier we could build the infrastructure to double the amount of irrigated land in Texas and Arizona

We have the ability to generate massive economic booms in this country... solar power plants covering 7% of the land mass of arizona would power all of the USA.... :o

Yes it would be expensive to build at first....But when oil is $60 a barrel and we are importing 10 million barrels per day.....It adds up pretty fast

Harnessing the sun and using the water we have available wisely would create more jobs and churn out more economic growth than building super highways...

of course if a president announced that the money for new nukes and aircraft carriers was being diverted towards clean energy and water infrastructure ....I am sure that the friends of coal and oil would have him killed within minutes of the announcement...


Sassy

#62
PREMEDITATED MERGER
10,000 protesters expected at North America summit
Bush to attend meeting critics view as stepping stone to continental union

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56703

SPP "Security & Prosperity Partnership"

Public forums denied on upcoming SPP Summit

At least two highly visible citizen's organizations that intend to expose the activities of the Security and Prosperity Partnership may have been effectively shut down for the upcoming SPP Leaders Meeting in Montebello, Quebec on August 20-21.

The Council of Canadians, after renting a public facility in the Municipality of Papineauville (about 4 miles from Montebello), were bluntly informed by the hall's management that the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police), SQ (Security Quebec) and the U.S. Army will not allow their meeting even though it is scheduled on the day before the SPP meeting! (See Police nix meeting near world leaders)

[highlight]In fact, these security officials allegedly declared that they intend to enforce a 25 kilometer (about 15 miles) blackout around the Chateau Montebello where Bush, Harper and Calderon will be meeting to advance their agenda of "deep integration" of Mexico, Canada and the United States.[/highlight]

http://www.augustreview.com/news_commentary/north_american_union/public_forums_denied_on_upcoming_spp_summit_2007071270/

Sassy

http://www.house.gov/list/speech/ca52_hunter/Nafta_hgwy_amendment.shtml

     HUNTER NAFTA SUPER HIGHWAY AMENDMENT PASSES HOUSE

Washington, D.C. – Late last evening, Congressman Duncan Hunter (R-CA) successfully offered an amendment to H.R. 3074, the FY2008 Transportation Appropriations Act, prohibiting the use of federal funds for participation in working groups under the Security and Prosperity Partnership (SPP), including the creation of the NAFTA Super Highway.  The Hunter amendment gained strong bipartisan support, passing the House by a vote of 362 – 63.

"The proposed NAFTA Super Highway presents significant challenges to our nation's security, the safety of vehicle motorists, and will likely drive down wages for American workers," said Congressman Hunter.  "Much like NAFTA, the super highway is designed to serve the interests of our trading partners and will lead to neither security nor prosperity.  

"This 12 lane highway, which is already under construction in Texas, will fast-track thousands of cargo containers across the U.S. without adequate security.  These containers will move from Mexico, a country with a record of corruption and involvement in the drug trade, across a border that is already porous and insufficiently protected.  con't at above link



Sassy

#65
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/july2007/250707mayorsigned.htm  No "Conspiracy Theory": OKC Mayor Signed North American Union Document
Mayor Mick Cornett endorsed "The Declaration of North American Integration"
Ridiculing claims by the establishment media that the North American Union plan is a "conspiracy theory," an activist has brought to light a document signed by the Mayor of Oklahoma City, which was also approved by 90 other officials, that endorses an economic and political integration of the U.S. with Canada and Mexico.

Jerome Corsi has the goods,

   The endorsement by a major city mayor of a document described as "The Declaration of North American Integration" represents a long-term effort by local governments to bypass state and federal governments and work directly with Mexico and Canada to create agreements that integrate the continent below the radarscreen, charges an activist.

   Adam Rott, founder of watchdog blog Oklahoma Corridor Watch, brought to light the document signed by Mayor Mick Cornett.

   The document was presented at the May 2004 summit meeting of the North American International Trade Corridor Partnership, or NAITCP. According to an Internet-archived summary report of the meeting, held in Kansas City, Mo., the document was signed by 90 people.

http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=56848
OKC mayor washes hands of North American Union
'It was a pretty stupid thing to get involved with'

Sassy

http://www.freepressinternational.com/?p=160  Protests in Ottowa against the Security & Prosperity Partnership in Montebello, Quebec that started today - Bush, Canada's Harper & Mexico's Calderon are in attendance... their goal - to "harmonize regulations between Canada, US, & Mexico."  

So what does that mean to each country?  What will that do to our constitution?  Mostly NGO's (Peter, that stands for non-elected gov't officials  ;)  ) & corporate heads are attending - the general public has been barred from attending, there is a 25 kilometer barrier around the area & the US Army is helping to police it  :o  

What is so secret that the general public is not entitled to be privy to the information?