builder's cottage w/ shed roof?

[rita]

could the builder's cottage be done with a shed roof?  I'm curious because I have this idea to then put a walkway between the two lofts (enlarging the storage one to extend over the porch) and a bank of windows (for solar), then to a one story shed roof bedroom (like an L from it).  This would be a very neat modern looking house, with some practicla applications, i think.  I'm planning on putting kids in the lofts with built in bunks under the eaves on the low side.  (kind of ship like...maybe even do little port holes)

anyway, would this work???

[tjm73]

I'm really interested in what this would look like.  Can you put up a rough sketch?  

[John Raabe]

Sure, the Enchilada plans kit comes with this option. It isn't drawn on the Builder's cottage drawing but is in the Little House plans (that come with it). It is shown as a low slope roof on p. 2 of those plans. You can change the slope to fit your needs as it is already structurally sized. You would paste that detail into the Builder's cottage plans.

Here is a quick sketch of a cross section through the 14' wide buidling. I think I would play a bit with the slope and perhaps lift up the plate on the left (low side). (I added some notes to this diagram on 1-19)

[rita]

how high a wall would I want to put on the top side (to deal with lofts and a walkway?  I don't have any plans yet...need to find land first!

[rita]

I've no clue if this will work...but here's what I've come up with...from the builder's cottage obviously



I think these may turn out to be awefully small but

[jwv]

Hi Rita,

Being a visual person, it was very hard for me to "see" waht you were saying, the sketch really helps.  I think it looks great.

Judy

[rita]

above the lower shed roof I want to do a band of windows.  The inside would have a walkway from one loft to the other.  glad the tiny pictures helped

[glenn kangiser]

Looks like it should work, Rita.  We have a bridge from out kitchen to our bedroom.

[tjm73]

OK, I follow the idea now.  I like it.  Kinda neat.

[John Raabe]

Here's a little model in 3DHA of 14x24 with a high shed roof. I have added an addition with another shed roof. Because of the limitations of 3DHA, the addition is shown as a second (but very close  ) building. When you do the printed plans you would overlap the floors and elevations to get things to read properly. This gets close to the look of the place. Another addition could be done off the back or the other side in much the same way.



Floor plan Main (with addition offset for roofs to work right)



And the loft floor.



You can change windows, cabinets, try out furniture, do an electrical plan, and then print these out and add them to your plans set. This is the kind of thing the Enchilada Plans set http://www.jshow.com/y2k/listings/43.html allows you to (it has the structural information). You probably won't get a perfect set of drawings ready for the inspector, but you can get close enough to build from and you can work with a local draftsman for the final prints if you need to submit a professional looking complete set.

I have added this 3DHA (ver 3) file to the download section of the new PlanHelp site: http://www.planhelp.com/public/programs/downloadsearch.cfm?searchtype=simple&searchmode=cat&keywords=recent&sortby=name&cat=3DHA%20Plans

[rita]

John, that is sooooo awesome.  I like the idea even more now that I can see it better!!

[rita]

wow, Now I definitely want to build this.  How hard would this be to build?  I might extend it slightly to a bigger loft, maybe even them out since I want a bed in each.

[mikeschn]

John,

Does 3dHA export vrml (wrl) files? Has anyone here experimented with cortona? I think it would be neat if we could get some houses here in cortona...

How would that work you ask... easy... install this client...
http://www.parallelgraphics.com/products/cortona/

And then look at some vrml files...
Here are the VRML(.wrl) files

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/ww1.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/ww2.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/ww3.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/ww4.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/lildiner_c.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/longweekender3.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/longweekender32.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/longweekender33.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/longweekender34.wrl

http://www.mikenchell.com/images/longweekender35.wrl

Sorry, I don't have any house plans yet... these are a couple of my teardrop plans...

Mike...

P.S. BTW, it helps to hit the study button before moving things and spinning things around...

[John Raabe]

I don't think so. 3dha ver. 3 was designed in 1999 or there abouts. It was an early version of the $1000 program Chief Architect. It can export a type of walkthough, but I've never used it.

[june]

My Mac running Tiger OSX will not open the .wrl files.  Anyone know a way for me to do that?
Thanks!

[tjm73]

Here's a little model in 3DHA of 14x24 with a high shed roof. I have added an addition with another shed roof. Because of the limitations of 3DHA, the addition is shown as a second (but very close  ) building. When you do the printed plans you would overlap the floors and elevations to get things to read properly. This gets close to the look of the place. Another addition could be done off the back or the other side in much the same way.



Floor plan Main (with addition offset for roofs to work right)



And the loft floor.



You can change windows, cabinets, try out furniture, do an electrical plan, and then print these out and add them to your plans set. This is the kind of thing the Enchilada Plans set http://www.jshow.com/y2k/listings/43.html allows you to (it has the structural information). You probably won't get a perfect set of drawings ready for the inspector, but you can get close enough to build from and you can work with a local draftsman for the final prints if you need to submit a professional looking complete set.

I have added this 3DHA (ver 3) file to the download section of the new PlanHelp site: http://www.planhelp.com/public/programs/downloadsearch.cfm?searchtype=simple&searchmode=cat&keywords=recent&sortby=name&cat=3DHA%20Plans

That picture looks pretty good, but it needs to have at least 4' or 5' of wall from the floor till the ceiling starts.  Would make the lofts more usable and take out the extreme looking roof line.  And I thin originally the idea was to carry the front lofy out over the porch section to make it as big as the rear loft.  Which I believe would make it a canetlevered room with a porch under it.

But I like it.  I'd even add a resonably sized master bath off the bedroom.  I prefer a private bathroom for the master bedroom.

[rita]

i would like to extend the front loft over the porch.  I don't mind sharing a bathroom and am most concerned about a reasonable size house that doesn't cost so much.  You certainly could add another bathroom tho.

[june]

Found Cortona plugin for Mac and put it in the internet plugin library.  Now I can open .wrl files!  Should have worked harder to do it myself before posting the question.  

[Jimmy C.]

Mike, What cad progrgam are you using that creates vrml (wrl) files?

[mikeschn]

Mike, What cad progrgam are you using that creates vrml (wrl) files?

Jimmy,

I use Ironcad to export wrl files of my teardrops.

But that's not quite applicable here... So I experimented with IMSI Floorplan 10 this morning and exported to w wrl. It didn't work. I got a material error. So I changed the material callouts to Null, and then the wrl worked. If anyone wants more detail on that, just ask.

I'll post a wrl file of a tiny house for you guys in the next day or so...

Mike...

[Jimmy_Cason]

I was hoping that Autocad LT would work with that program.
I can only export dxf,dwf,bmp,wmf and postscript file formats.
Do you know of any similar programs that will support any of these formats?

[mikeschn]

Jimmy,

I am familar with Autocad. My advice, is to try something else... Floorplan can do a lot...
http://www.imsisoft.com/prodinfo.asp?t=1&mcid=316

I use to balk at floorplan because it wasn't what I was used to... but if you can set aside your knowledge for a moment, and give floorplan an open mind... it really is a wonderful program. And it exports dxf if you have to tweak something in Acad...

A 20 year veteran of CAD software, I can relate to changin'. Patience is the answer my friend...

Mike...

[mikeschn]

Okay, here's a wrl for you guys to look at ... this is the wrl of the 400 sq ft house that i posted in another thread...

I found this wrl very difficult to navigate, probably cause the house is so small... but if you click on the study button, and then carefully work your way to the inside of the house, it's pretty cool!

Mike...

http://www.mikenchell.com/tinyhouse/400sqft.wrl

[Jared]

I don't think anybody answered her question about how high the wall would be on the high side of the house. I'd like to know that also. Is it 16'?
jared

[jraabe]

Look back at the cross section drawing. I added some notes.