For Those of Us Who Have a "Thing" About Large Diameter Bullets

Started by MountainDon, March 22, 2010, 11:46:00 PM

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MountainDon

 :D :D    The 454 Casull chambering is what's new  :o   6 shots, too.   :P



Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

peternap

These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!


Windpower

Often, our ignorance is not as great as our reluctance to act on what we know.

peternap

Quote from: Windpower on March 23, 2010, 07:14:32 AM
the 3" snubby would be 'interesting' to fire




More flamethrower than Handgun ;D

The problem with the 45/310 combos is that unless you do some real creative handloading or a rechamber, they are just not very accurate.

I had to burn up a lot of powder before I got my BFR shooting well.

The long cylinder makes for a lot of freebore unless you make a case that spans it.
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

NM_Shooter

I went to the range 20 years ago with my boss and a gun-nut co-worker.  He brought along his Casull for us to shoot.  My boss was not a handgun shooter, and fired the Casull with bent elbows.  The revolver kicked back and smacked him in the forehead.  It was all I could do not to laugh. 

A)  He was my boss
B)  He was holding a loaded revolver  ;D
"Officium Vacuus Auctorita"


MountainDon

Quote from: peternap on March 23, 2010, 08:02:33 AM
, they are just not very accurate.


That is the criticism I have read about.  But it is an interesting revolver.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

MountainDon

Quote from: peternap on March 23, 2010, 08:02:33 AM


The long cylinder makes for a lot of freebore unless you make a case that spans it.

Do you use 410 all brass cases or size 444 marlin?
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

peternap

444 Don.

All of the 410 brass that I know of except RMC, is baloon head and won't stand the pressures I put in it.

Some people are making cases out of 9. something (Sorry, my CRS is acting up) and that has a little more length.
You do have to use a rebated heel bullet unless you rechamber.

If you're willing to rechamber, there are a number of other options.
I do use brass 410's for my Buckshot, Bear loads. These are .50 balls I size and flatten the ends so they will syack in the case,

You can see the bear loads here:

These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

SardonicSmile

I'm a little wary of the "new" calibers. There have been many, and all but a few are practically out of production.


MountainDon

Quote from: SardonicSmile on March 23, 2010, 05:38:08 PM
I'm a little wary of the "new" calibers. There have been many, and all but a few are practically out of production.

If you are referring to the 454 it's been around for over 50 years, although there have not been many handguns made for it. Based on the 45LC it uses a heavier wall gauge and longer case and produces much higher pressures. 45LC can be used in a 454, but not the other way around.

335 gr      1,600 ft/s    1,904 ft·lb
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

eddiescabin

I like Peter's pic,  FIRST he smacks the bear with the crecents wrench!  Don't make him grab his shotgun!  Thanks for the info on guns a casual observer would not know about...I think they rate guns in Cali by how many Caddy dorrs it will shoot thru!