Doctors advise masks to avoid the Swine flu…Not in Virginia Bubba

[Sassy]

My next door neighbor in Washington state was Randy Bachman - we lived on H St road that was the last road running parrallel to the border - I could walk out back a 1/4 mile & go across the border...  H St ran from the Guide Meridian to Blaine.

He built a great big mansion on the property next to where I lived (of course his house was a lot nicer than mine    Never did ever go over to meet the neighbors - should've...

[MountainDon]

This explains a few things......

Well, I'm happy about that, but wonder what it expalins?

[StinkerBell]

I have made comments about Nethog's h1b1 and his resident alien card and some of the drama that goes with it and you seem to totally understand. Did you know that seeing that Nethog is not a citizen but a resident alien and if he is caught holding a fire arm (like my 12 gage) he can be kicked out of the country....Now he can for a FEE file a permit form but it makes us so angry when someone has jumped through all the hoops legally yet a gang banger here illegally who has a fire arm gets special treatment.

[MountainDon]

I know there are differences in Resident Alien cards that are issued, but I do not know why. My card was issued in 1985 in Canada. It was permanent, no expiration date. We had a woman from the UK work for us a few years ago. Her card had an expiration date; she was married to a US Citizen same as I was and still am. I have wondered why the difference but have no idea if it was because of country of origin, date of application, or my own good looks. 

The prohibition against nethog touching or possessing a firearm has me puzzled. I am aware that persons who are aliens and are illegally or unlawfully in the United States are prohibited from receiving a firearm; as are individuals who have been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa, e.g., aliens traveling temporarily in the United States for business or pleasure, students who maintain a residence abroad or aliens who are temporary foreign workers. Is he in one of those classes? Certainly he is not a druggie, or been judged mentally defective (by someone other than you Stink, that is)  and any of those disqualifiers.

Info from the FBI at...
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsindex.htm
or here...
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm

[StinkerBell]

He is a regular Resident Alien married to US Citizen (that is me!). He has been told by immigration and I believe an immigration lawyer the same thing. Even one of the questions on my application last weekend at Cabela's asked if I was a citizen or not, did not offer if I was a resident. I believe at one point Hog had the specific code. I will ask him if he recalls it.

[StinkerBell]

So I am sitting here with Hog and he has mentioned that the regulation is Washington State specific. He is looking up the code.

[MountainDon]

So I am sitting here with Hog and he has mentioned that the regulation is Washington State specific.

AAAAAH! WA state liberals strike again.


Right, the form simply asks if you are a US Citizen and if not, then what country. I always stated citizen of Canada and then filled in my A# in the blank provided. I never received an instant Yes, or No for that matter. The Yes, always came within 3 hours though. Except for back when there was no computer system. Then it took the 3 days allowed by the Brady Act.

[StinkerBell]

Well he was looking it up. He is now distracted with NetHogJr.


RCW 9.41.170
Class C felony.

[MountainDon]

Well, we don't need one of those.   

[MountainDon]

That totally sucks!!!!!!!!!!!

Interesting link... NRA legal action. Opens a PDF document

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.saf.org%2Flegal.action%2Fwa.alien.resident.lawsuit%2Fwa.alien.resident.complaint.pdf&ei=bOT3ScfdNJ_ktQPdkNnlDg&usg=AFQjCNGIq_SyyCoDTOm_rQYyvFujY07lgg&sig2=ESNMQ4MQSNQ5zmXNOHp8Ig

I guess we pretty well hijacked this topic. Peter won't mind though. 

[Sassy]

Guess I'll bring it back on topic... 
Breaking News

Mexico Reports 159 Swine Flu Deaths
Container of swine virus explodes on Swiss train

Yesterday, 09:39 am
Reuters
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/22/20090428/twl-uk-flu-swiss-accident-sb-a7cf3b4.html

[akemt]

About the Meadows Massacre:  It wasn't mormons killed, correct, but you can't state that Brigham Young order the massacre, either.  That is what the controversy previously mentioned is about --Who did it and was it ordered or not.  Fact is, we don't know.  If the mormons did do it, I'm sure it wasn't under the direction of the prophet (our religion doesn't allow preemtive/offensive attacks, even from writings back then).  That said, it isn't hard for me at all to see a group of people on their own, who had led such a life, being beaten, raped, killed, driven from their lands and all they knew/owned, over and over and over with no government willing to protect them -all because of religious persecution- now in a strange dessert where they think they are finally going to be left alone (which they weren't) doing such a thing out of fear or even hatred/revenge (even if revenge didn't apply, transferrance is common).  I'm sure there were a number that came through the persecution (that word just doesn't even do it justice) better, stronger people, and like every other group of people who suffer such, many who weren't quite right afterwards or who became bitter, hateful, or began to emulate those who had caused them to suffer.

I just didn't want it left sitting as fact that Brigham Young ordered the massacre when there isn't proof of such.    ETA:  Sorry to take it back off-topic again!  Moving on...

I can't help but wonder if it is fake, if not atleast being played up heavily.  Look at the bird flu nonsense.  Wash your hands and cook your food and you're fine.  Just trying to sell vaccines?  No idea, really, but the more scared we are, the more willing we are to give up our freedoms in the sake of security.

[pagan]

akemt,

Thanks for clearing up your position. Nuff said.

[Homegrown Tomatoes]

I know there are differences in Resident Alien cards that are issued, but I do not know why. My card was issued in 1985 in Canada. It was permanent, no expiration date. We had a woman from the UK work for us a few years ago. Her card had an expiration date; she was married to a US Citizen same as I was and still am. I have wondered why the difference but have no idea if it was because of country of origin, date of application, or my own good looks. 

The prohibition against nethog touching or possessing a firearm has me puzzled. I am aware that persons who are aliens and are illegally or unlawfully in the United States are prohibited from receiving a firearm; as are individuals who have been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa, e.g., aliens traveling temporarily in the United States for business or pleasure, students who maintain a residence abroad or aliens who are temporary foreign workers. Is he in one of those classes? Certainly he is not a druggie, or been judged mentally defective (by someone other than you Stink, that is)  and any of those disqualifiers.

Info from the FBI at...
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsindex.htm
or here...
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm

Re: the temporary green card issue.  When DH and I married, it took about a year and a half to finally get him a temporary green card, which was good for two years, and provided we were still married at the end of that period, he got a permanent one and then moved on to citizenship.  According to the INS interviewer, it was because of the frequency of "marriages" that really weren't just to get residency... it was kind of funny because here we were with a newborn by the time he got the temp green card, and the interviewer just kind of laughed because it was obvious we hadn't married for the "green card only" purpose.

[StinkerBell]

I know there are differences in Resident Alien cards that are issued, but I do not know why. My card was issued in 1985 in Canada. It was permanent, no expiration date. We had a woman from the UK work for us a few years ago. Her card had an expiration date; she was married to a US Citizen same as I was and still am. I have wondered why the difference but have no idea if it was because of country of origin, date of application, or my own good looks. 

The prohibition against nethog touching or possessing a firearm has me puzzled. I am aware that persons who are aliens and are illegally or unlawfully in the United States are prohibited from receiving a firearm; as are individuals who have been admitted to the United States under a nonimmigrant visa, e.g., aliens traveling temporarily in the United States for business or pleasure, students who maintain a residence abroad or aliens who are temporary foreign workers. Is he in one of those classes? Certainly he is not a druggie, or been judged mentally defective (by someone other than you Stink, that is)  and any of those disqualifiers.

Info from the FBI at...
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsindex.htm
or here...
http://www.fbi.gov/hq/cjisd/nics/nicsfact.htm

Re: the temporary green card issue.  When DH and I married, it took about a year and a half to finally get him a temporary green card, which was good for two years, and provided we were still married at the end of that period, he got a permanent one and then moved on to citizenship.  According to the INS interviewer, it was because of the frequency of "marriages" that really weren't just to get residency... it was kind of funny because here we were with a newborn by the time he got the temp green card, and the interviewer just kind of laughed because it was obvious we hadn't married for the "green card only" purpose.

When Nethog went in for his green card we had our baby. Who just pooped his diaper. We looked at each other and at the same time said "Your Turn" The INS agent said "Oh, you two are indeed married!" I had to sign off on paper work saying that for the next 10 Years I am responsible for Nethog even if we divorce. If he divorces me and goes on welfare I am going to billed. My ten years is almost up! :

[MountainDon]

Stink, you reminded me of something. At the time we were applying to make the move to the USA neither of us had any job prospects. K's father had to sign a similar promise to keep us off government welfare. I don't recall if there was a time limit, but he's been off the hook for 3 years now.

[StinkerBell]

Sad thing is I could have killed him and done less time. :

[Squirl]

I really think this is a manufactured scare - here are some more links 

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/LR454443.htm
http://www.naturalnews.com/025760.html
http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=13554
http://www.cnn.com/2004/SHOWBIZ/books/04/02/lab.257/
http://spitfirelist.com/?p=106

Draw your own conclusions...

I do agree that this seems a bit out of proportion yet.  Only time will tell.  So far it just seems like a new strain of the flu.  I heard on the news that the flu currently kills over 35,000 people a year in this country.  I have not heard much that this virus is deadlier than the current flu.

[MountainDon]

But it remains that it is unusual to see a new strain become active at this time of year. Normally flu season is winding down.