For those of us that like ultralight bullets

[peternap]

There are a couple of us here that shoot 45 caliber rifles and handguns. For me, penetration is king. These are the serious business bullets I shoot. Remember, these things are big enough to be considered pre-expanded.

For my 45/70 guide gun



525 grain
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm

for my 45 Long Colt



345 grain
http://www.beartoothbullets.com/bulletselect/index.htm

[MountainDon]

I though this was to be a treatise on the 17 HMR. 
And I wondered why Peter would mention it?



How's that 525 gr feel compared to a 350? On the firing it end, not the receiving it end.   

[peternap]

I though this was to be a treatise on the 17 HMR. 
And I wondered why Peter would mention it?



How's that 525 gr feel compared to a 350? On the firing it end, not the receiving it end.   

I am not very recoil sensitive Don and I consider the 45/70 in all loadings a pleasant gun to shoot. I would not like to do a full day working up loads for the 525;s off the bench. ...but it's not something I dread to shoot.

I shoot a lot of very heavy 12 gauge in light guns. I do consider them unpleasant.

Now the 345 grainers in my 45 LC BFR, are like shooting 22's...Boy I love that gun. Even shooting my wildcat 444/45 wildcats in the thing are comfortable.

[MountainDon]

I shoot a lot of very heavy 12 gauge in light guns. I do consider them unpleasant.

I tried out some heavy 3" 1 3/8 rifled slugs for the heck of it a short time ago. Ouch!  It was a noticeably harder kick than my usual 00 and slugs from the 2 3/4" Federal I shoot. Harder than any 45-70