post to beam

Started by dogneck, July 30, 2008, 05:51:08 PM

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dogneck

On the 14x24 plan.   On the top side of the hill I was able to get the concrete piers exactly right.  On the lower side, I needed more height, so from the top of the concrete pier to the 6x12 beam, I was going to use 4x4 posts.    I upgraded from the 8" piers to the 10" piers.   I though everything was going good until I decided to use 4x6 posts.     They seemed better suited for a 6" wide beam-  they would line up so that simpson connectors would be flush.    I was a little careless, because the 4x6 simpson connector has a slot in the bottom (rather than just a round hole)  allowing you to slide it to adjust for about 1 ".      So after all the bolts were  in the concrete,  now I find that the slot goes in the other direction, so the posts are not flush with the beam.   I don't know if this is a problem structurally, since it called only for 4x4 posts anyway.   I guess I could get some type of T-connector or L brackets inside.    Any suggestions?
Thanks.

PEG688

#1

Would it be possible to line up the post and beam and still catch the bracket in the concrete?


Another thought is IF your beams are set back a bit , not flush with the box sill , just run the beams a bit skewed  / not parallel to one another and square up your box sill above the beams.
 

   
When in doubt , build it stout with something you know about .


MountainDon

A skewed beam is what I have due to some rocks 'n' roots I ran into on the second row of posts. The first set went in slick and straight. The west end of the beams are about an inch further apart than the east end, but with the floor joists being cantilevered as PEG said, there's no real problem. Match 'em up as good as you can, then take time to make the floor square.

Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

dogneck

I guess I didn't explain it right.    I have one beam.  It is a built up  6x12   24ft long.  It is straight.  The plans don't show any sill plate on top of it.  The joists rest directly on the beam.

The posts supporting the beam 4x6.   Where the posts meet the underside of the beam,  instead of being flush with the beam sides-  so you could put a simpson connector or metal t brace,  it is off by 1"-    one side  sticks out.     If I just used 4x4 posts, then the whole post would be under the beam,  but each one slight skewed.

Any help is always appreciated.  I'm new at this.  Just don't want it to fall over the hill.

mvk

Can you put a saw cut in the side of the post that extends past the beam, deep enough to accept the Simpson bracket, and fill the other side with ply. If nailing the bracket instead of bolting you would have to get longer nails. Do they make longer hanger nails?
Mike


MountainDon

Doing a "cut & fill" on the post like that should work okay. As for the bracket I'd through bolt it on this one. You could also use one of Simpson's heavy duty T-brackets on this one.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

dogneck

I think that's the right approach.   Cut off the little bit on one side and build up the other.    The 4x6 is still more  than the original 4x4.