Infant Discovered In Barn, Child Protective Services Launch Probe

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Nazareth Carpenter Being Held On Charges Involving Underage Mother

12/25/10 --"Information Clearing House" - Bethlehem, Judea - Authorities were today alerted by a concerned citizen who noticed a family living in a barn. Upon arrival, Family Protective Service personnel, accompanied by police, took into protective care an infant child named Jesus, who had been wrapped in strips of cloth and placed in a feeding trough by his 14-year old mother, Mary of Nazareth.

During the confrontation, a man identified as Joseph, also of Nazareth, attempted to stop the social workers. Joseph, aided by several local shepherds and some unidentified foreigners, tried to forestall efforts to take the child, but were restrained by the police.

At one point Joseph became confrontational and delusional claiming the child was "God's child". An officer, who used a Tazer device on Joseph, stated,"The man became uncooperative. We feared for his own safety and that of the child so we used a less-lethal weapon and restrained him in handcuffs. This was the same man I detained earlier for attempting to take a donkey on a public highway. At that time he incredibly claimed a 'common right to his conveyance of choice on a public highway' explaining that his donkey only used the grassy portion and was no interference to the faster vehicles.

He showed no identification, said he had no job and claimed to not have a social security number-laughing and uttering some non-sense that it was the 'mark of the beast'. He was cooperative at that time so I let him go with a highway warning and a charge of vagrancy. It's a trend with these types of people: We find that they start in minor trouble like traffic incidents and graduate to more acts of civil disobedience. Eventually they cross-over and break one of the many many laws of and for government. Still, I can't understand why he became uncooperative to the point that we had to use less-lethal force-after all we're just doing the job of the 'consent of the governed'. Don't these people understand that they must submit to authority that is in their best interests?"

Also being held for questioning are three foreigners who incredibly allege to be "wise men" from an eastern country. The INS and Homeland Security officials are seeking information about these who may be in the country illegally. A source with the INS states that they had no passports, but were in possession of gold and other possibly illegal substances. They resisted arrest saying that they had been warned by God to avoid officials in Jerusalem and to return quickly to their own country. The chemical substances in their possession will be tested. An officer at the scene said the suspicious enclosures for the chemical substances might constitute "drug paraphernalia". The agent for Homeland Security stated that he contacted the IRS under the suspicion that this gold might be linked to a foreign trust method of "under-reporting income".

An agent commented: "The presence of paraphernalia, chemical substances, gold, and foreign people without passports is certainly suspicious. Terrorists are known to fund terrorism activities through illegal drug trading. Or these could be part of an illegal-alien smuggling ring from Mexico. In either case the claim that these three are Kings is unsubstantiated as they are not diplomats registered with the Department of State."

The owner of the barn is also being held for questioning. The manager of Bethlehem Inn faces possible revocation of his license for violating health and safety regulations by allowing people to stay in the stable. Civil authorities are also investigating the zoning violations involved in maintaining livestock in a commercially-zoned district. The owner of the barn claimed he provided the lodging free hence the guests did not need to register.

He was noted to exclaim, "For heaven's sake, it's Jesus! Can't we forego government intrusion into our lives for the Christ-child celebration?" Authorities were not amused and demanded his identification and his Inn lodging and restaurant board-of-health certification.

The location of the minor child will not be released, and the prospect for a quick resolution to this case is doubtful. Asked about when Jesus would be returned to his mother, a Child Protective Service spokesperson said, "The father is middle-aged and the mother definitely underage. This is suspicious behavior worthy of investigation." When asked who these people were and where they were from, the spokesman replied: "Both parents refuse to provide identification. Both claim no social security number and provided no marriage license.

The father claims a license from heaven as a common-law right. They have no birth certificate for the baby Jesus. In this sense they are deemed uncooperative by us and are probably members of some anti-government common-law movement group. I simply can't imagine why parents would not want to register the birth and citizenship of a baby such as Jesus!

In America everybody does this--it's for the welfare of the child. Why would they not want to register that baby Jesus as a UNITED STATES CITIZEN and hence leave his real citizenship in question? If they are not hiding something, what do they have to fear?

I tried to reason with the father. I asked the father the question as to why he never applied for baby Jesus' social security number explaining that Jesus could have earnings credits and receive retirement benefits. The father uttered total non-sense about 'rendering unto Caesar', more religious 'mark-of-the-beast' dogma, and retirement in God's kingdom.

Frankly I'm flabbergasted by these types of people. It's a trend we wish to stop. They never volunteer and this we view as uncooperative behavior. They never apply for social security numbers, they never register the birth of their children, they refuse to register to vote for our two parties, they don't show us identification when we ask 'for their papers" kindly, they refuse to send their children to public education under a home-school banner, they claim adherence to God's law and not man's, they claim government harassment as the reason they must be transients, and they protest filling-out voluntary-compliance government forms. Frankly, these types of anti-government people are always uncooperative. We are checking with officials in Nazareth to determine what the legal relationship is between father, mother and baby."

Joseph has admitted taking Mary from her home in Nazareth because of a census requirement. However, because she was obviously pregnant when they left, investigators are looking into other reasons for their departure. Joseph is being held without bond on charges of molestation, kidnapping, child endangerment, and statutory rape.

The local prosecutor had this to say: "I feel confident that this man is either suffering from a psychological problem or is hiding his uncooperative, anti-social and anti-government viewpoints under the disguise of religious dogma. Everybody is entitled to a viewpoint but the defining line is statutory criminal activity and possible terrorist threats. We will weigh the evidence collected and then decide the extent of the charges and whether to prosecute."

A spokesman for the court said this: "We always consider the welfare of people first. If this case is brought to trial we will judge it on the basis of social welfare for the child and criminal activity in violation of law for government. If brought to trial they will be allowed court-determined due process before a jury of their peers to present factual evidence on their behalf. Rest assured, they will NOT be permitted to express their view of the law to the jury-even though they claim to operate under God's law and not man's. This could 'unduly influence' the jury.

They will be appointed an attorney free of charge as attorneys are always for incompetents only. Rest assured that even though our incarceration rate is the highest in the world, the People still claim our courts and judges are the fairest in the world. We respect their religious viewpoints however, they will be judged and prosecuted to the full extent of our government statutory law and we will not allow their religious viewpoints to interfere with our government statutory law in the administration of our justice."

Mary was taken to the Bethlehem General Hospital where she is being examined by doctors. Charges may also be filed against her for endangerment. She will also undergo psychiatric evaluation because of her claim that she is a virgin and that the child is from God.

The director of the psychiatric wing said, "I don't profess to have the right to tell people what to believe, but when their beliefs adversely affect the safety and well-being of others - in this case her child - we must consider her a danger to others. The unidentified drugs at the scene didn't help her case, but I'm confidant that with the proper therapy regimen we can get her back on her feet."

A spokesperson for the governor's office said, "Who knows what was going through their heads? But regardless, their treatment of the child was inexcusable, and the involvement of these others frightening. There is much we don't know about this case, but for the sake of the child and the public, you can be assured that we will pursue this matter to the end."



bayview

    . . . said the focus was safety, not filling town coffers with permit money . . .

glenn kangiser

Sacrilege in a way, but while Jesus is real, the whole Christmas story is itself, Sacrilege.  The above story is not much farther from the truth than the official supposedly true Christmas story.

I assume I will get a thumbs down for this but..... Christmas is based on lies..... all lies...... Parents are forced to lie to their children to promote this holiday, then they wonder where the kids get off lying later in life.... they grow up to be politicians......

It is promoted by big business since it is a major sales period for them... follow the money.


It is actually a Celebration moved by the church to a Pagan celebration day, Saturnalia, and the whole story is a lie.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/Christmas_TheRealStory.htm  This is confirmed here straight from the Jews - Judaism online.

More explanation from that site....

The Origin of Christmas Tree
Just as early Christians recruited Roman pagans by associating Christmas with the Saturnalia, so too worshippers of the Asheira cult and its offshoots were recruited by the Church sanctioning "Christmas Trees".[7]  Pagans had long worshipped trees in the forest, or brought them into their homes and decorated them, and this observance was adopted and painted with a Christian veneer by the Church.

The Origin of Mistletoe
Norse mythology recounts how the god Balder was killed using a mistletoe arrow by his rival god Hoder while fighting for the female Nanna.  Druid rituals use mistletoe to poison their human sacrificial victim.[8]  The Christian custom of "kissing under the mistletoe" is a later synthesis of the sexual license of Saturnalia with the Druidic sacrificial cult.[9]

In pre-Christian Rome, the emperors compelled their most despised citizens to bring offerings and gifts during the Saturnalia (in December) and Kalends (in January).  Later, this ritual expanded to include gift-giving among the general populace.  The Catholic Church gave this custom a Christian flavor by re-rooting it in the supposed gift-giving of Saint Nicholas (see below).[10]

Tons of problems with Santa... check the origins in the article.

Nicholas was among the most senior bishops who convened the Council of Nicaea in 325 CE and created the New Testament.  The text they produced portrayed Jews as "the children of the devil"[11] who sentenced Jesus to death.


So - sacrilege or not -- depends on how deep you dig.  If you go for the facade, then - possibly...sacrilege, but if you go for the facts , then Christmas itself is sacrilege.  Just point of view.
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muldoon

Glenn,

Yep.  Everything you wrote is true.  And I don't care.  We don't celebrate the tree at my house.  We don't buy abunch of plastic junk from China either.  Christmas is about family and experiences we have at this time of year when were all off work and off school and have time together. 


bayview

Quote from: muldoon on December 25, 2010, 08:02:15 PM
Glenn,

Yep.  Everything you wrote is true.  And I don't care.  We don't celebrate the tree at my house.  We don't buy abunch of plastic junk from China either.  Christmas is about family and experiences we have at this time of year when were all off work and off school and have time together. 

   Thanks Muldoon . . .

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    . . . said the focus was safety, not filling town coffers with permit money . . .

glenn kangiser

I agree that the time to get the family together is good and have no question about that or problem with those that choose to do the whole Christmas thing any way they see fit.

My only point here is that the truth about it takes sacrilege out of the picture no matter how you look at it.  :)

Actually my ancestors were real pagans.  Lithuania had all kinds of weird celebrations and haunted woods etc. from what I read.

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MountainDon

When it comes to religion and the practitioners of any particular religion, the "truth" is whatever the particular religion being embraced teaches/believes. It may not be the accurate historical truth as has been determined so far, but it is that particular person's belief/truth. As long as nobody is being abused or killed etc. as far as I am concerned, they can have those beliefs just the same as a person can be a total nonbeliever in any religious preachings. It's an individual right and falls under the First Amendment.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

Actually, truth only comes in one flavor, but I agree that people can believe whatever they want. :)

The Inconvenient Truths are more political/religious colorings of the truth that are actually not truths but meant to sell products or ideas based on what the perpetrator can get the victims to believe, but yes, I agree with you 100%, it is our right as Americans to believe whatever we want to... still doesn't make it true though... [ouch]
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Ernest T. Bass

Yeah, "history" is such a cloudy topic you wonder why the heck you waste any time "learning" any of it.. It's completely biased to promote someone's agenda. I mean, we can clearly see how many "historical" facts have been warped just over our short life times. There is absolutely no way anyone knows exactly what happened thousands of years ago, unless you believe that the bible is 100% the inspired word of Christ. I really don't think/believe that God would (or even COULD) put His Word into a book. It's written in our hearts and there alone.. Books are too easily capitalized on to gain power and control... *Steps off soap box...* ::)

But I can't help it. I still love Christmas.  ;D I think this was one of my best ever!

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glenn kangiser

Dang it, Andrew... there you just went and blew all of my preconceived beliefs... [waiting]

....but, yup - it's a good time of year to get together... make sure none of the kids are starving to death, keep the retailers in business and in general have a good time. :)

I don't often get into religious discussions one way or the other except to bring in a counter point to a point that could be felt differently about by someone who felt differently about it, if they didn't feel the same way as the other person felt about it, whatever that means. rofl.

As Don mentioned - everyone is free to feel and believe as they wish, but it is sometimes fun to kick a few ideas back and forth.

Party on, Andrew. :)
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