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wrong plans endless foundation searches
« on: April 24, 2005, 04:55:01 PM »
 my wife ordered the wrong plans for my xmas gift ,I had wanted the 14 foot wide ,instead I got victorias  cottage plans ,which have grown on me as she said they would?  Now as dirt breaking time nears and things have been built in my mind  ,the only question remaining is how many concrete blocks an hour can a geezer lay?

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« Reply #1 on: April 24, 2005, 05:03:11 PM »
On a good day a halfway decent bricky should do about 250  8" concrete blocks per day, 350/400 bricks  or aroud 1000 commons that are to be plastered or bagged.
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I've got nothing on today. This is not to say I'm naked. I'm just sans........ Plans.

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« Reply #2 on: April 24, 2005, 06:20:37 PM »
That was amazing info, Jonesy - I'll bite -- How do you know that Jonesy ???
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« Reply #3 on: April 24, 2005, 06:32:21 PM »
Thought you might Glenn, ;D
In my former life, when I was young, fit, and handscome (we are, talking a couple of years ago here)I got to lay the odd one or two.
One job I am particularly proud of, and had a ball working on, is here,

http://www.johnscott.net.nz/pages/aniwaniwa.html

About 5000 8" concrete blocks on this job, Trout fishing in the morning and Deer stalking in the evening.
One of the great things about working in the building trade is, there are all these little monuments to your passing. Of course, more often than not, it is only you who are aware of this.
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« Last Edit: April 24, 2005, 07:01:52 PM by jonseyhay »
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« Reply #4 on: April 24, 2005, 07:11:46 PM »
Nice job Jonesy.  

Most of my monuments are not as pretty as yours -A medical building is probably about my best - all the structural steel and operating light hangers - decking -welding- stairs  etc.

Heres a rendering - completed last year.

http://tinypic.com/4pv7mp
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« Reply #5 on: April 24, 2005, 07:23:28 PM »
Nice one Mate,
Does sort of make you proud when you can say to the grandkids, "I helped build that." Don't it.
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« Reply #6 on: April 25, 2005, 05:04:08 AM »
Thanks Joneshay ,back in the early 70s I worked for a stone mason and can still here  more rock and we need to move that pile around front.Slate and soapstone floors were an easy day.  

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« Reply #7 on: April 25, 2005, 06:06:39 AM »
Each project in its way is a bit like one of your kids.

You're proud to see 'em out there on their own.

It's not exactly immortality, but it does show you stomped around on the planet a bit.

A legacy from our "X" chromosomes, I guess. (Just finished reading "Adam's Curse" by Bryan Sykes [subtitle: A future without men] — fascinating!)

None of us are as smart as all of us.

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« Reply #8 on: April 25, 2005, 06:26:17 AM »
And - like kids, sometimes they're a little bit bad but you get them straightened out without much problem --- sometimes they're real bad and cost you money but you get them straightened out--- occasionally they're all good. :)

At times like that you can recall that quote from our famous president ---- "It's all good." William Jefferson Blythe IV  (Bill Clinton) ;D
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« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2005, 06:43:06 AM »
No fair! Almost everything I design gets buried!  Not that I'd boast about that 36" RCP drain pipe I designed.  And the stuff that is visible is usually complained about, I mean a detention basin really isn't pretty after the client has "value engineered" it down to a hole in the ground that "might" grow grass if you are lucky.  I have yet to see a plaque on my pump stations either.....
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« Reply #10 on: April 25, 2005, 06:50:31 AM »
So, Daddymem, post a pix here of one of your cool looking projects before it's been buried and you'll have your own little monument.  Guaranteed to get several hundred hits.

Once the picture is up, Jonesy and I will sit back and suck the suds off a cold one in recognition of your accomplishment.  Just because it's buried doesn't mean it isn't great. ;D  (Besides I haven't had a beer in a while.)  :)
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« Reply #11 on: April 25, 2005, 07:00:54 AM »
I  like looking back over my shoulder at what Ive built.     I look forward to this project as it will not be compromised by customer input.The best work is when we are take  the time to think it through and do it right.

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« Reply #12 on: April 25, 2005, 07:26:22 AM »
Well I wouldn't want to ruin someone's excuse to chug a brewsky.... (that's not me in the picture)

That there is a steel sleeve that was jacked under a set of railroad tracks.  Inside the sleeve a 6-inch hdpe sewer force main was pulled through coming from my 85,000 gpd pump station.  Isn't it pretty?  ok keep both hands on the keyboard guys... ::)
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« Reply #13 on: April 25, 2005, 10:37:22 AM »
Got a picture of the "jack"?

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« Reply #14 on: April 25, 2005, 11:18:25 AM »
The contractor thought better of it and decided to use an excavator to push it through...I thought it was pretty shallow but the RailRoad engineer was satisfied and he was the one who had to sign off on it.  I guess we can call the operator Jack if that works ::).  I do have a photo of the directional drill rig also used on the project to go under a concrete culvrert in a roadway across a pond....
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« Reply #15 on: April 25, 2005, 01:19:24 PM »
Nice pipe Daddymem, and I like the fact that your picture included the mandatory 4 guys watching - must have been publicly funded ;D
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« Reply #16 on: April 25, 2005, 01:30:38 PM »
I'm proud of my pipe :P  No this was a privately funded summer camp project.  One of the guys is a flagman for the railroad since it is active, one of the guys is from our office to keep an eye on the contractor, the rest are contractors and people wondering how the heck this was gonna work (which it didn't work as planned).  This was supposed to be a horizontal bore but the contractor thought better, he got lucky that the railroad approved what he did.
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« Reply #17 on: April 25, 2005, 03:25:30 PM »
Now that the topic has been derailed...
From Handbook of Construction Contracting Vol. 2
"Labor Placing Concrete Block Work Element Unit Man-Hours Per Unit Concrete Block, lightweight 4" block 100 S.F. 10.50 6" block 100 S.F. 11.70 8" block 100 S.F. 12.80 10" block 100 S.F. 15.00 12" block 100 S.F. 17.90 Concrete Block, hollow, standard weight 4" block 100 S.F. 11.00 6" block 100 S.F. 12.00 8" block 100 S.F. 13.00 10" block 100 S.F. 15.00 12" block 100 S.F. 18.00 Time includes set-up, clean-up, joint striking one side only, cutting, pointing, steel alignment and grout. Suggested Crew: Small jobs, 1 mason, 1 helper"
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« Reply #18 on: April 25, 2005, 04:24:38 PM »
Why people hate 12" block.  (still faster than two parallel lines)

(What is the number 10.5 or 18.0--minutes, hours, days for the 100 square ft?)

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« Reply #19 on: April 25, 2005, 04:58:08 PM »
10.5 would be man-hours for 100 sf of 4" block. That way you can figure how long based on number of people you use for the job.  Means estimating probably has this information as well but I am not in my office right now.
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