Plywood siding on house... anyone done it or know how?

Started by Steve_B, December 30, 2012, 02:20:11 PM

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Steve_B



I joined the sister site yesterday and I saw a note about a low cost alternative to siding..... putting up batter boards and using plywood siding instead of vinyl siding

Anyone ever done it or even know how to do it with maybe an illustration or two?

I looked online for how to's or articles but can not find any

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cbc58

I have put up board and batten siding using rough sawn lumber - but not plywood - never heard of doing that except with maybe T-111. 


John Raabe

Ask at the local lumber yard for the single wall structural sheathings they carry. They may have T1-11 and other choices. When properly nailed off these are designed for an exterior that is ready for paint or stain. Adding 1x battens and window trim adds some depth to what is otherwise a rather flat looking exterior.

http://www.ehow.com/info_8470175_t111-plywood-specifications.html

Here is a countryplans gallery house that used such materials: http://www.countryplans.com/nicolaisen.html

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hpinson

And the key to using other plywoods would be to keep them well painted. Otherwise, they disintegrate fast! Saw this in action just last weekend - a cabin sheathed in non T1-111 rated plywood, and not kept painted, was quickly on its way to becoming a run-down and leaky shack.

Ndrmyr

We have some cabins in my area with T111, some are cedar, some are not.  Both have held up well with an occassional pressure washing and staining.   It is important to use the Z metal trim that goes between the ends of each sheet.  The protects the vulnerable end grain of your ply.   My advice would be to go a step further and the seal that end grain prior to installation.  A lot of things would help, I would recommend Anchor-Seal which is waxy and is often used to seal green wood from drying too fast, or to protect deck boards after cutting since there is always more treatment in the end of a board than the middle.
I believe this will greatly extend the life of your ply and help prevent curling due to moisture.  Sheet goods are very efficient at covering large spaces, but, are not efficent where a lot of openings in a structure exist such as doors and windows.  If you have a lot of windows, you will have to cut the ply around those openings and therefore will have a lot of waste.  Attempting to use those cut-offs can really reduce the cosmetic appeal of your project.   In that case, a horizontal narrow siding such as vinyl or cement board really starts to sign because of reduced waste.  Keep this in mind when making your choice.
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Steve_B


Does the T1-11 actually sheath the house itself, or does it go ontop of the plywood sheathing in the dry in stage outside the house?
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PEG688

Quote from: Steve_B on December 31, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
Does the T1-11 actually sheath the house itself, or does it go ontop of the plywood sheathing in the dry in stage outside the house?

It can generally be done either way. The most common is T1-11 right on the studs, or over Tycek / Typar / some other type of building wrap.

We use a Okoume type of T1-11, it comes with shiplapped edges , grooved and un-grooved , 4x8, 9 ,&10 foot sheets. Very nice stuff , no "football" type plugs , good core plys , etc. Way better than the "old" AC based T1-11 we used to use, cost difference is dollars per sheet not $10.00's of dollars difference , in fact our locate lumber yard doesn't carry the old AC type any more.

If you are in a high seismic, wind , tornado hurricane area ,  and you need to be code compliant you should check with the local building dept to insure you can go with "single wall" construction. Which is what we call T1-11 right over stud / not structural sheathing beneath the T1-11.   But here in Washington state on this island , we use single wall on occasions.  So it meets or exceeds our code requirements.

G/L

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Ndrmyr

One hesitates to return to the great tar paper vs. housewrap discussion, and even though I used housewrap, if I were using T-111 or sheet goods siding of any kind, I would almost certainly choose heavy tar paper under the siding.  The heaviness of the paper and it's moisture resistance in the event of penetration past a seam in the siding would give it my vote.  And certainly, the T-111 is a great surface to side over in the future if you want a different appearance or maintenance free.


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Steve_B



Really interested in doing this with my 20 x 34 two story universal build starting very soon!

I found this at home depot for starts, is this the right stuff for the job?

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-100000016/h_d2/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10053&langId=-1&keyword=t+111+plywood&storeId=10051#.UPNlbvKwVBQ


Question.... they will not sell or ship it to SC or GA.... does anyone know of another source where one could buy this or something similar??
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flyingvan

http://www.jameshardie.com/pdf/best-practices/hz/hz5-2012-v6-1-hardiepanel.pdf

  Hardiepanel has smooth and textured panels.  They come in 4x8, 4x10, and I think 4x9 sizes.  They are heavy and can be brittle too, and if you use it buy the electric shears to cut it (the special skilsaw blades make very nasty dust and ruin saws and lungs)  Around here we get a break on homeowner's insurance for using cementitious siding.  It looks good, bugs won't touch it, and it takes paint well---you can even get it pre-painted.  Also---if you have any horizontal seams, use Z-flashing between them.  Moisture behind any kind of panel product is not good.
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roadtripray

Steve,

Here is a link to a Fine Homebuilding article about board and batten http://www.finehomebuilding.com/how-to/articles/recycled-greenhouse.aspx?nterms=63054.  I am building a Builder's Cottage and will probably do either the T1-11 or Board and batten.

Peace,
Ray