Age old guns

[poppy]

So I have been getting kind of stir-crazy from being inside so much in the last month or so.

Decided to pull out some of my collection to play and decided that I needed to share.

Have been a gun owner for over 40 years and a more serious collector for the past 15.  An odd catejory that I started is to find firearms manufactured in my year of birth.

Being on the leading edge of the baby boom generation with a birth year of 1946 makes it a challenge.  Not many guns made that year, but here is a couple.



Extra points if you can name that gun without looking at the following details.









Still trying to run across an Enfield MK 4 1 .303 rifle and a S&W revolver.

[MountainDon]

The rifle appears to be a MN.

Do you want the Enfield and S&W to be made in '46 too?



That was a good year, Me too!

[poppy]

Yea Don, you're correct about the Mosin Nagant model M44.  Most of them seemed to have been made in 1944; at least the ones I've seen.

Yes again on the Enfield and S&W.  Not really a big fan of British firearms and never became a S&W man either, so only looking for '46 dates.  I think some of the Enfields that are dated '46 were actually reworked during that year, but in some respects that makes them even better, because they may have been used in the war.

So I assume you also graduated HS in '64.  I recently dug out my year book to see what an old girl friend use to look like and wonder what happened to her. 

[MountainDon]

Colt M1911A1 Argentine Modelo 1927,   made by Argintina under licence from Colt marked on right of slide with "EJERCITO ARGENTINO / SIST. COLT CAL 11.25 mm. Model 1927"   I had to look at the other photo.    




http://www.sightm1911.com/1911Production.htm    approx 2/3 the way down the page

[NM_Shooter]

Collecting guns from your birth year?  What a great idea!

[poppy]

Sorry Don, your source on the 1911A1 was not really complete.  So close, but no cigar.

Here is another clue.



This factory also made some Colts for the Air Force.

[MountainDon]

Where's my son when I need him?

[MountainDon]

Collecting guns from your birth year?  What a great idea!

I have to agree.    Great idea, I'll have to have a look at what was being manufactured in '46 too.

[flatdarkmars]

I'm not sure exactly what was missing from Don's answer.

The markings are for Direccion General de Fabricaciones Militares - Fabrica Militar de Armas Portatiles.

I suppose the gun would have been made at the Esteban de Luca Arsenal in Buenos Aires, and possibly assembled at the Domingo Matheu plant in Rosario.


Here's some more 1946 love for ya:

Enfield No.5 Mk.1 "Jungle Carbine" http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=153065120
Browning Hi Power http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=25406
Colt .38 Super http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=6670&osCsid=2899697b50608da572c914a6c4c75114
Winchester 62A .22 http://www.collectorsfirearms.com/admin/product_details.php?itemID=34175
Winchester Model 70 .30-06 http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=153998049
Winchester Model 1897 shotgun http://www.simpsonltd.com/product_info.php?products_id=9347&osCsid=2899697b50608da572c914a6c4c75114

[MountainDon]

It's a Sistema Colt made by a company in Argentina named Fabrica Militar de Arms Portatiles.  Assembled at the Domingo Matheu plant in Rosario, Argentina

D.G.F.M. - (F.M.A.P.) on the left side of the slide, indicates manufacture by the Direccion General de Fabricaciones Militares at the Fabrica Militar de Armas Portatiles.

Yours is one of 7627 produced that year.

The crest means it was government issue; not police or commercial sales.

[MountainDon]

Enfield No.5 Mk.1 "Jungle Carbine" http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=153065120

There's one of those at a local shop. I forget how much and never had my flashlight to look down the bore. I knew I liked them for a good reason.         1946

[poppy]

The crest means it was government issue; not police or commercial sales.

That's correct.  My '46 was issued to the army.  I also have one that was issued to the Air Force, marked AERONAUTICA ARGENTINA with a wing type crest.

What was missing from Don's first post on the Colt was the Rosario factory.

Plus I'm not really sure the Modelo was a 1911A1.  Typical Argentine Colts marked Modelo were not A1 designs because they didn't have a grip safety.

Thanks for the links flatdarkmars; I wasn't aware of any of those.  Now I'm going to have to look harder and there's a gun show tomarrow. 

Don, better go get that carbine. I've been told that everybody needs a .303

[gandalfthegrey]

Sorry Don, your source on the 1911A1 was not really complete.  So close, but no cigar..

Argentine D.G.F.M. (F.M.A.P.) 1911-A1 Modelo 1927 .45 acp

al./Gauge: .45 acp
Barrel(s): 5"
Weight: 39 oz.
Sights/Scope: Driftable rear, blade front
Metal Condition: Parkerized refinish
Bore Condition: Very good


Manufactured in Argentina, under license from Colt, by Fabrica Militar de Arms Portatiles The serial number on barrel, slide and frame match. There is importer's stamp on the bottom of trigger guard