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Offline BigMish

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Scaling down the 1 1/2 story
« on: June 21, 2007, 12:04:04 PM »
I’ve got a set of the 1 /1/2 story cottage. It turns out I’m going to begin with a much smaller structure than I originally planed, something closer to the 14’x24’ of the little cottage. My question is this: can I just follow the 1 /12 story plans and simple change the dimensions as needed or will this affect the engineering to greatly? Obviously, I’d like to avoid buying another set of plans and it seems straight forward enough.

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Re: Scaling down the 1 1/2 story
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2007, 03:23:37 PM »
Yes... you could just reduce the basic dimensions and scale down the 1 1/2 story. You can also reduce the size of the structural members (joists and rafters) with a span chart.

If you don't need complete drawings for a permit you could come up with several different configurations and floor plans that way.

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Re: Scaling down the 1 1/2 story
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 11:01:26 AM »
I'll probobly do the floor layout in Viseo and the 3D in SketchUp. Can you point me twords a "span chart"?

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Re: Scaling down the 1 1/2 story
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 06:09:08 PM »
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Re: Scaling down the 1 1/2 story
« Reply #5 on: July 22, 2007, 05:02:55 PM »
I was also wondering about this, but on an even smaller scale!

My wife and I are planning to raze the old rotten rabbit barn and put in a 12 x 18 from the Little House plans for use as a potter's studio and storage building (and experience for later building projects) - and we'd like to raise the loft up with kneewalls, mimicking the proportions listed in the Optional Raised Roof at Loft for 14' Wide Cabin description from the Enchilada plan set.

Would we be safe using fireblocked 2x6-12' balloon framed walls, following the dimensions from the 14' plans? I don't mind overbuilding, since most of the structures on this hilltop were *underbuilt* and we're paying the price now.

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Re: Scaling down the 1 1/2 story
« Reply #6 on: July 22, 2007, 08:04:11 PM »
I don't see why that would be any problem.  The semi-balloon framing is used by a lot of people.
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Re: Scaling down the 1 1/2 story
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2007, 08:22:13 AM »
Yes, that same detail (as shown for the 14' wide) would work fine for the 12' span. You will want to use 2x6 framing if you will be notching for the ledger.
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