What Japan Thinks about Airport Body Scanners In U.S.

[Pox Eclipse]

There will be no exceptions for religious reasons:

Transportation Security Administration Chief John S. Pistole told a Senate committee yesterday that air passengers selected by the TSA for enhanced screening who decline to undergo either a full-body scan or a full body pat down will not be allowed to board planes in the United States.

There will be no exceptions, Pistole said, even for people who cite religious reasons for refusing to undergo the scan or pat down.

The definitive statement came at the conclusion of a nearly three-minute exchange on the question between Pistole and Sen. John Ensign (R-Nev.) in a hearing of the Senate Homeland Security Committee.

"Either the imaging or the pat down, let's just say I don't want either of them, because of religious reasons, what happens to me?" Ensign asked at the end of the exchange.

"So, while I respect and we respect that person's belief, that person's not going to get on an airplane," Pistole replied.

"There will be no exceptions?" asked Ensign.

"No," said Pistole.

[sparks]

The wife, grand daughter (she's 2 and a half) and I are finally going to Hawaii this weekend.

Flying from Chicago to Honolulu.

Could be interesting......


I'll keep you folks informed.  



sparks

[glenn kangiser]

Hope all goes well, Sparks.

They have even been molesting the little kids and putting their hands inside of the men's underwear from what I am reading now as more and more of this stuff comes out.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330569/Airport-security-staff-caught-camera-body-searching-crying-3-year-old-girl.html

"It has also emerged the TSA is being sued for a an incident at the Corpus Christi airport when a woman's breasts were exposed.

An unnamed 23-year-old college student was allegedly singled out for 'extended search procedures' before flying in 2008.

'As the TSA agent was frisking plaintiff, the agent pulled the plaintiff's blouse completely down, exposing plaintiffs' breasts to everyone in the area,' the Amarillo Globe-News quotes the lawsuit as saying.

'As would be expected, plaintiff was extremely embarrassed and humiliated.'The suit said the woman filed an administrative claim against the TSA, but when they never responded, she sued.

The suit also claims staff joked about the woman's breasts.

'One male TSA employee expressed to the plaintiff that he wished he would have been there when she came through the first time and that 'he would just have to watch the video,'  the lawsuit said.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330569/Airport-security-staff-caught-camera-body-searching-crying-3-year-old-girl.html#ixzz15gzBKWL1

[glenn kangiser]

I guess someone should look at what the federal gov is trying to pull off at this time as everyone is preoccupied with the pornoscanner thing.  Must be some big operation they are pulling.

[phalynx]

I gotta weigh in here.....

Don't TSA me bro!!!!!!

[peternap]

I guess someone should look at what the federal gov is trying to pull off at this time as everyone is preoccupied with the pornoscanner thing.  Must be some big operation they are pulling.

Glenn, I think among other things they're testing the limits to see how far the American public will allow them to go.

[Don_P]

I always get special treatment. Been thru the scanner in Charlotte and Denver. Possible health risks aside, I feel more violated by a hospital gown. Like most people I've been x rayed many times.

I am curious if all the workers in terminals who are beyond security are getting screened daily or multiple times daily.

[phalynx]

I believe it is the set a precedent.  Enough time groping people in airports "because you purchased a ticket", why not extend it to your car as you are on gov't roads.  Why not your computer?  Your home.......  etc....   Incrementalism.

[bayview]

   And, while being groped and x-rayed . . .

   The TSA agent has plenty of time to "inspect" your carry-on luggage.   

   "More than 60 TSA screeners have been arrested for theft at 30 different airports, both large and small. Some have been caught going through bags in full view of airport security cameras -- one is even seen on tape pocketing a gold bracelet."

   "The TSA has settled 15,000 passenger claims filed over theft by screeners and has paid out $1.5 million in damages."

   "ABC News has learned that at New York's three major airports -- John F. Kennedy International, Newark Liberty International and LaGuardia -- 400 of the first 2,000 screeners hired had criminal records."

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[Woodsrule]

"ABC News has learned that at New York's three major airports -- John F. Kennedy International, Newark Liberty International and LaGuardia -- 400 of the first 2,000 screeners hired had criminal records."

Holy Cow - I hadn't heard this! This is an overwhelming percentage of hires with criminal records; no other industry or profession would stoop so low as to hire 20% of its employees with criminal records. I reiterate my earlier position - the TSA has been allowed to run rampant for too long and needs to be reined in. I hope the new Congress takes this issue up soon.

[glenn kangiser]

OK - so we have learned that 20% of TSA agents are thieves.

Let us assume that at least another 20% or more are perverts, another 20% are child molesters, another 20% are looking for same sex contact, and another 20% are pedophiles.  

Those types of people are drawn to jobs like this where they can get free access to victims under color of law.  They don't even have to have a previous record.  

The TSA just makes it easy for them to fulfill their fantasies while being protected from prosecution, but having full power to prosecute under Federal protection.

A perfect job for an incompetent low life on a power trip and while getting rewarded with an American lower class wage and bonus testosterone surges  for making the life of the sheeple miserable.  That will teach the sheeple what terrorism is really about...

Oh yeah -  I am not putting down any of them individually.... consider this statement to apply only to the generic perverts employed there....and not to the good one..... [ouch]

Consider that people unemployable in this hard financial time will gladly sell themselves out to the federal government TSA for a lower class wage.  That is the quality of agent we get as we enjoy their hands fondling our family jewels.

[Windpower]

(Soldiers returning from Afganistan)


http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/11/18/another-tsa-outrage/

snip

This is probably another good time to remind you all that all of us were carrying actual assault rifles, and some of us were also carrying pistols.

So we're in line, going through one at a time. One of our Soldiers had his Gerber multi-tool. TSA confiscated it. Kind of ridiculous, but it gets better. A few minutes later, a guy empties his pockets and has a pair of nail clippers. Nail clippers. TSA informs the Soldier that they're going to confiscate his nail clippers. The conversation went something like this:

TSA Guy: You can't take those on the plane.

Soldier: What? I've had them since we left country.

TSA Guy: You're not suppose to have them.

Soldier: Why?

TSA Guy: They can be used as a weapon.

Soldier: [touches butt stock of the rifle] But this actually is a weapon. And I'm allowed to take it on.

TSA Guy: Yeah but you can't use it to take over the plane. You don't have bullets.

Soldier: And I can take over the plane with nail clippers?

TSA Guy: [awkward silence]

Me: Dude, just give him your damn nail clippers so we can get the f**k out of here. I'll buy you a new set.

Soldier: [hands nail clippers to TSA guy, makes it through security]

This might be a good time to remind everyone that approximately 233 people re-boarded that plane with assault rifles, pistols, and machine guns–but nothing that could have been used as a weapon.

[phalynx]

Windpower, that was actually a made up story.   

[Windpower]

This was at the top of the post

it could be false but this was written at the top of the article and it is not a satirical site


What is the source that it is false.....



"Posted by Erick Erickson (Profile)

Thursday, November 18th at 6:28PM EST

68 Comments
UPDATE: I'm getting a lot of emails asking if this is actually true and is this person actually someone I know. (1) Yes it is true — it is too absurd to be made up. (2) Yes, I know the person."

[phalynx]

There was a long thread about it on another forum.  I'll have to find it.  Basically, many service men and women debunked it on many fronts as not possible.  Everything wasn't SOP except maybe the nail clippers...  Which,, they do allow today.

[Windpower]

I certainly agree it sounds absurd

but then to quote a Rod Machado, a favorite flight instructor

"truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense"

[phalynx]

I agree that the TSA is so absurd, they could actually do it....

Hitler had his brown shirts,,,, 0bama has his blue shirts....

[glenn kangiser]

TSA - Breast Cancer - no problem -

http://www.wbtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=13534628

[phalynx]

I have a solution...  We can send the TSA to the border...  They'll do the job the ruling class won't allow the border patrol to do...

[glenn kangiser]

TSA: Travelers Who Refuse Scanning Can't Leave, Will Be Fined
Passengers 'Can Not Just Decide to Leave'

Faced with the prospect of large numbers of people refusing the invasive "screening" measures they've implemented this holiday season, the TSA is hoping to fight back with threats of fine and arrest.

"Once a person submits to the screening process, they can not just decide to leave" warned Sari Koshetz, a TSA spokesperson. TSA officials say that anyone refusing both the "full body scanners" and the "enhanced pat down" procedures will be taken into custody.

Once there the detainees will not only be barred from flying, but will be held indefinitely as suspected terrorists, face fines of up to $11,000 and may also be turned over to local police. One sheriff's office said they were already preparing to handle a large number of detainees and plan to treat them as terror suspects, held until they are convinced they don't pose a terror threat.

The TSA genital "patdowns" have led to threats from some local prosecutors to charge them with sexual assault, but the TSA has shrugged off public outcry over the measures and seems more intent than ever on cowing the public into submission.

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/19/tsa-travelers-who-refuse-scanning-cant-leave-will-be-fined/

[Phssthpok]

Since this:



wasn't enough to prevent a secondary feel-up pat-down, I guess the next logical step will have to be



Remember folks...it's all about YOUR safety.

[Windpower]

TSA: Travelers Who Refuse Scanning Can't Leave, Will Be Fined
Passengers 'Can Not Just Decide to Leave'

Faced with the prospect of large numbers of people refusing the invasive "screening" measures they've implemented this holiday season, the TSA is hoping to fight back with threats of fine and arrest.

"Once a person submits to the screening process, they can not just decide to leave" warned Sari Koshetz, a TSA spokesperson. TSA officials say that anyone refusing both the "full body scanners" and the "enhanced pat down" procedures will be taken into custody.

Once there the detainees will not only be barred from flying, but will be held indefinitely as suspected terrorists, face fines of up to $11,000 and may also be turned over to local police. One sheriff's office said they were already preparing to handle a large number of detainees and plan to treat them as terror suspects, held until they are convinced they don't pose a terror threat.

The TSA genital "patdowns" have led to threats from some local prosecutors to charge them with sexual assault, but the TSA has shrugged off public outcry over the measures and seems more intent than ever on cowing the public into submission.

http://news.antiwar.com/2010/11/19/tsa-travelers-who-refuse-scanning-cant-leave-will-be-fined/

I spent literally 45 minutes reading the TSA website today.

I could find no reference to a fine for refusing the scan and grope.

This is interesting because the 'don't touch my junk guy' was threatened with the fine if he left the airport and as I recall he said 'go ahead' or something similar.

Now the point is if a passenger is not informed beforehand   of the ramifications of refusing the scan and the grope then it is unenforcible

there must be a sign or a statement that you sign or some thing to inform the passenger.

IMO this would never stand in a court of law (not to say it could not be rammed through in this day and age of illegal actions by the governments)

but I think there are some lawyers that would love to make a 'federal case' over this


and then there is this news article from the Daily Mail in the UK about a man that flew out of Cincinnati who refused the scan and the grope and went on his flght

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1332276/Beating-TSA-How-determined-passenger-spent-hours-arguing-rights-waved-checks.html


I think that the TSA is running scared on this one

Since I am not flying until the week after thanksgiving I personally hope that the opt out day ---tomorrow -- is an absolutely fantastic success

that is to say, I hope they shut down air travel in the US on what is typically the busiest day of the year 


 

[bayview]

I have a solution...  We can send the TSA to the border...  They'll do the job the ruling class won't allow the border patrol to do...

   You've got my vote!

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[Pox Eclipse]

Body Scanner Operator Caught Masturbating at Colorado Airport

A full body scanner operator was caught masturbating during a scanning session by airport staff late Tuesday.

Airport officials at Denver International airport were on high alert yesterday when a full body scanner operator was caught masturbating in his booth as a team of High School netball players went through the scanner.

"The young ladies were going through the scanner one by one, and every time one went through, this guys face was getting redder and redder. His hand was moving and then he started sweating. He was then seen doing his 'O' face. That's when the security dragged him out of his booth and cuffed him. He had his pants round his ankles and everybody was really disgusted," Jeb Rather, a passenger on a flight to New York told CBS news.

[Windpower]

I guess we need a little levity sometimes, Pox







BUT THIS IS NOT THE TIME

and this is a very perverted post


is this 'screener' your champion or idol ?

or do you just think this is funny