Refuse Mandatory Injections

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Pox Eclipse

Quote from: glenn kangiser on November 28, 2009, 07:36:41 PMHowever, to simply dismiss these events as "coincidences" is a serious mistake.
Maybe.  Maybe not.  Maybe more women would lose their children from the flu than they would through side effects of the vaccination.  I see no reason one hypothesis is more likely than the other.  I do not like jumping to conclusions.  I am not very smart, so  I need a method to distinguish between the likely truth, and likely false conclusions.  I choose the scientific method to do that.  The absence of evidence is not proof of the contrary.  "I don't know" is a valid answer until more evidence is forthcoming.  And sometimes when that evidence contradicts my conclusion, I have to admit I was wrong, and change my mind. 

But not until I see the evidence.

JRR

We'd better have a roll call!  I know me an' ole Pox are still here ... got our pig shots and all.  But I worry about the rest of you hold-outs!  10,000 Americans have so far have succumbed .... (if we can believe the press.)
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http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/11/health/11flu.html


MountainDon

I'm a hold out and will remain so. I know four people, friends, acquaintances and clients who all came down with serious flu within a day of getting their vaccinations. Could be coincidence, could be they would have got the flu anyways. I've had shots in previous years; not this year though.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

SpoonyG

QuoteI am not very smart, so  I need a method to distinguish between the likely truth, and likely false conclusions.  I choose the scientific method to do that.

We've seen how the scientific method, if driven by an agenda, can manipulate, mislead, and withhold information (read global warming scam).  I am skeptical of all things that are deemed "good" for me by others.  Just saying...

glenn kangiser

I have friends who got the shot and got the flu.  

Sassy and I did not get the shot and did not get the flu.

Most medical people, doctors, nurses, etc.  working with Sassy at the VA refused the shots and did not get sick.  

Patients she knows got the shots and got the flu.

So much for an unscientific study.
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MountainDon

I also probably know people who got the shot and did not get sick, but they don't talk about it. Like many things you hear about the crap before the good, most often. But I'm still not getting shot.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

Pox Eclipse


peternap

Well, I still don't think it's worth the risk. Both Jane and I got the Flu last week (Saturday) I don't know what kind of Flu but it's been miserable...just like the Flu is supposed to be.

But we're getting over it and don't have to worry about side effects later.
These here is God's finest scupturings! And there ain't no laws for the brave ones! And there ain't no asylums for the crazy ones! And there ain't no churches, except for this right here!

JRR

Quote from: Pox Eclipse on December 11, 2009, 08:12:00 PM
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The plural of anecdote is not data.
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Nice! I wish I had written/thought that.


glenn kangiser

I'll be happy to sit by and watch as you guys offer yourselves for experimental testing. 

Realize that there is no recourse against the manufacturer as the government granted them immunity from lawsuit.

I'll take my chances with the bug.  At least I won't have to fight off the vaccine. :)

I hope all continues to go well for you.
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glenn kangiser

Good doctor contract giving you a guarantee if shots are forced on you or your children.  Word Document

http://www.davidicke.com/content/view/29718/83/

http://www.davidicke.com/images/vaccineform.doc

Yes - I am aware the above site is a bit radical, maybe sometimes considered crazy, but you can't argue with the wisdom of getting the good old doc to guarantee your welfare if the state will not, eh?  You know he has your best interest at heart and he himself is so convinced of the vaccine safety, that he will sign the contract without even reading it....... Right? [waiting]
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JRR

Kinda funny story:

This morning DW and I go to our usual breakfast spot (Ruby's): and there sits "Billy" just out of the rain, as usual smoking like a chimney and quick to tell you of his lastest ailment.  Billy is a local fixture, a widower in his late eighties, no relatives, has more money than he or I could ever spend.  If Billy is not sitting there early in the morning, then you know he's spending time in the hospital ... getting something fixed.  Last time it was a hernia ... somewhere.  But this week Billy is back at Ruby's, so all is right in the world.

As usual, we inquire, "Billy, how are you feeling today?"  

He takes the weed from his mouth.  After a theatrical pause, "I feel great!  You know .... I really think its because of all those darn flu shots they made me take."

(I nearly fell over!)

glenn kangiser

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