rustic cupboard and drawer handles

[cecilia]

At the Duckpond we're finally up to cupboard doors and drawers! Seventyfour doors to be made and quite a few drawers.

We'd really like to use pieces of not-very-straight sticks from small trees around here to make the cupboard handles and drawer pulls. Has anyone done this in such a way that there's room to grab the handle but doesn't need a complicated mounting which takes too long to make? Jonni tells me it took him two days to make the towel rail in the bathroom and he doesn't want to have to go through that torture with so many needed.

Just managed to get the broadband up and running and I've been enjoying trawling through the Country Plans site looking at all the photos it took too long to download before.

Looking forward to brighter ideas than we can muster up here!
cecilia
www.duckpond-design.com.au/theduckpond

[PEG688]

Welcome to the faster world of broadband / DSL  

Here's some ideas ,

http://www.interknobs.com/cgi-shopper/search.cgi/interknobs/ezshopper?user_id=id&12_option=8&1=knob&8_option=3&8=buck+snort+lodge&database=dbase1.exm&output_number=15&records_in_row=3&sort_field=25_na&template=template.htm

 http://www.castinstyle.co.uk/section.php/7/1/cabinetknobs/9c63146f80e22ad343ec9417109f2f6b


http://www.castinstyle.co.uk/section.php/7/1/cabinetknobs/9c63146f80e22ad343ec9417109f2f6b

Not stick and twig , but still some funk to the look , might work , it depends .

I can appriciated Johnny's not wanting to make  74 or more custom bored door pulls .

G/L PEG

[glenn kangiser]

I have done something similar with 2 screws countersunk into the handle then giong through two short drilled dowels to hide the screw and give finger room.  The dowels could be made from the same material and need not be round on the outside.  They could be cut from a stick with a chop saw and the edges manually touched up with a sander - predrill the screw hole to clear the threads and countersink the handle with a drill press.  

If not clear I can sketch it up for you.

Glad you got the high speed -- we always like to hear from you/

[Sassy]

Your place looks great, Cecilia!  Beautiful  8-)

[glenn kangiser]

What the heck -- drew it up anyway...

[PEG688]

Nice drawing Glenn , I think that will be a easy part   Boring all those lil pieces and the splitting that the boring will cause along with the splitting the drying out will cause and the splitting the use will cause , I think ya get my drift eh  

But hey it may be just the ticket  8-)

I wouldn't want to try it but , Johnny's MMV

[PEG688]

Here's the ones I was looking for ,


 








http://www.rocklerpro.com/search_results.cfm?filter=uptown+collection+&submit.x=7&submit.y=11


Don't tell anyone , but this is the super secert " Rockler Pro" section  

We now return you to the underground bunker  

Over and out  

[glenn kangiser]

I would slightly oversize the holes to allow for shrinkage if wet wood and set up with a drill press or a piece of cardboard to prevent scarring and a good pair of pliers, the drilling should be easy.

Short dowels could be cut by the hundred in a few minutes with a stop set on a saw.


That's the way we would do it at the underground command center (to Cheney it would be an undisclosed location).

Poor folks have poor ways.  :'(  Can't afford that corporate produced high dollar hardware.

[PEG688]

Your detail drawing does not show wood dowel it shows a stick / limb.

See that's where design and real world part company , like Architect's who draw sloped / curved lines , etc  but "will settle . or meant " something straight . There's a difference , details should be drawn as your expecting things to "really be" .

As a builder I've bid many jobs "to spec" and lost the job only to drive by and see all the spec's where a waste of time   That 5/8" CDX sheathing was 7 /16 th" OSB , that Clear Cedar trim was really cheap asre hardi plank , that  enclosed soffit with 1x6 Pine T&G "really was" open soffits with bird blocks , etetetetetetetetc!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


AAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

[glenn kangiser]

I guess I generalized it to much  but it really is a piece of stick or limb as Cecilia wanted.  Could we compromise and call it an unfinished home made dowel with a hole in the center? :-/

I really meant it to be a stick part.  I used the word dowel improperly.  

[PEG688]

Oh sure how you gonna cut 200 sticks that are not round and straight , off square and true like your drawning   :-/

You designers are all alike , say what you mean not what you meant?? Are you a women ??  Has Sassy stolen your log in name   And posting as Glenn  

My point is , easier said than done  

[Sassy]

Heeeyyyyyy!!!!!    

[glenn kangiser]

Sometimes rustic takes a little more time -- I haven't dressed in womens clothes in a long time.

[PEG688]

Sometimes rustic takes a little more time --

 I haven't dressed in womens clothes in a long time.

Shouldn't should it  :-/ :-/ It should be easier to cob it up than do it up  


 Are you feeling a Tootoo moment

[cecilia]

Well - thanks for that lively conversation! Glen, your drawing shows exactly what Jonni's been trying to do, but the sticks keep splitting as he's drilling through them and he keeps saying "*&^%$#@!"

The sticks he's been using for the 'dowels' are pretty straight but I was hoping that if it wasn't too difficult an exercise the actual 'pull' part of the handle could be more bent and twisted - otherwise we may as well buy standard boring handles.

Peg (I think it was PEG) Your Rockler hotlink was certainly top secret - and I'm not privy to the password!

I keep suggesting leather thonging (which I can make) to tie the wobbly sticks onto something to attach to the doors/drawers, but Jonni keeps asking me how I think he's going to attach my thonged up sticks to the doors and I tell him that's his part of the deal!!

Anyway, we'll keep trying - perhaps try some different types of trees - sheokes or silky oak may not split so readily.

Hope your garden's flourishing Sassy - we've had quite bad frosts here, but luckily the native plants don't seem to mind that.

cheers from downunder
cecilia
www.duckpond-design.com.au/theduckpond

[PEG688]

 Ah ha what I say Glenn spilts   Hehhehehehhehheheh!!

Humm the link won't work for me right now so maybe it's a glitch in the system  :-/ I just checked and a three ways I tried to get to Rockler where tha same , maybe they are doing system mantiance ??

You askin a lot outta the wood and outta Johnny   as well Ceilia     How about a routed in finger type pull ?? A hidden one ? Are your cabinets Euro style ??

 

[glenn kangiser]

OK --

Out of dry oak -- maybe not up to the standard you want though - drilled oversize with a sharp drill - hand sanded ends - flats dadoed in with saw blade - countersunk holes for screw heads using common tools found in my shop -- pieces cut with a normal  carbide tipped chop saw.  A table saw would work  - sanded with a small circular sander -  in under ten minutes or about 3 minutes per piece.

Glue at each joint could make it stronger.

I know - it's an okie rig job but it is rustic.

A bit more preparation time could render a better product.  I just wanted to point out what could be done quickly and rustically .

[PEG688]

OK 75 more and ship to Oz Do you install as well  :-/

[glenn kangiser]

I do, but I charge time and travel. :-/

[glenn kangiser]

I know - it's an okie rig job but it is rustic.

Definition:  The way Okie BoB and I have to do things to prove we can" git er done."

[glenn kangiser]

PEG -- the ten minutes includes me splitting one by drilling too fast.  Had to cut another and drill it too.  I guess that drops my time to 2.5 minutes or less each.

[cecilia]

It looks as if we're all on the same wave length. Jonesy sent a drawing and mentioned using brass tube or similar to fix the handle to the door. This made Jonni prick up his ears as something rattled in his head and reminded him that we have some copper tubing up in the garage. Could do the trick perhaps?

PEG, I don't know what a Euro style cupboard is. Ours are sort of straight up and down with no frills - here's a photo

[cecilia]

Sorry about last night's dishes on the sink still. Have been too busy reading all your conversation to attend to the boring stuff.

As you can see PEG, the cupboard doors are at a stage where Jonni wouldn't be too thrilled at the prospect of taking them all off and attacking them with the router. Besides, I'm just about ready to start oiling them with my trusty tin of tung oil.

cecilia
www.duckpond-design.com.au/theduckpond

[glenn kangiser]

The tubing would work fine, Cecilia.  Same idea as the wood unfinished homemade dowels with holes in the center without any chance of splitting.

Nothing much prettier than nice solid wood doors.

[PEG688]

That would be euro style   no face frame , no big space between the doors and draw fronts .

Why is jonsey's PM in ya ?? Is he to shy to share  his ideas out in front of the whole world  

I still think the stress of using a pull like that will result in a lot of replacements being made over the years   let alone the ones that just split cuz they can / on there own at night . YMMV

So Glenn will you take care of failures/ broken ones  for say  a 5 year period  :-/