Cop shoots fire chief in Ark. court over tickets

ScottA · September 04, 2009, 05:49:12 AM

This story is a prime example of what is wrong in America. The government serves it'self not the people.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/32680338/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts

Pox Eclipse · September 04, 2009, 08:10:10 AM

You think that is bad? Check this out:

Man Says Police Forcibly Collected Urine Sample

September 04, 2009, 10:57:24 AM

I have avoided this subject as I rag on everything government, but I think it is time that the citizens stop looking the other way and take their country back from these criminals acting under color of law.

peternap · September 06, 2009, 07:12:04 PM

Quote from: glenn kangiser on September 04, 2009, 10:57:24 AM
I have avoided this subject as I rag on everything government, but I think it is time that the citizens stop looking the other way and take their country back from these criminals acting under color of law.

I tend to agree to a point Glenn....but the question is how? Kill them? That's not a good approach. For every police officer like these, there are a thousand that are true professionals... and you can't tell the good ones from the bad.

The real criminal as I see it, is the Judge. The Judge should be the balancing point between the police and the citizen. We have had fair success in Va, removing Judges that simply won't administer justice. There are still problems, but one by one, using video and Digital recorders, which are legal in Va, we're whittling the problem cops out and bringing the problem PD's under control.

ScottA · September 06, 2009, 07:28:58 PM

I agree Peter but there also needs to be someone responsable for enforcing police ethics other then the department themself. A citizen should be able to contact the state at some level and expcet a real investigation if they feel they have a problem police force. The way it stands now in most places there is no one to call.

September 07, 2009, 08:01:23 PM

State Attorney General office. Here at least they do seem to do some weeding out of public officials gone bad or astray. Generally political party lines don't seem to stand in the way much either.

glenn kangiser · September 07, 2009, 11:21:52 PM

We had a Sheriff here that tried to straighten out our local department by going to the AG in Sacramento. They were in on it too and the straight Sheriff ended up at the bottom of the lake in about a month. It took 10 years before his remains were found.

I think they are better now - or at least they hide it better.

I guess your solution is one method to improve it, Peter, if it can be improved.

ScottA · September 08, 2009, 03:52:41 PM

A few years ago a buddy mine got tossed in jail for 2 days. They never let him make a phone call or see a judge. No lawyer no nothing then just let him out without any charge being filed. He claimed the officer had it in for him over land dispute and just did it to harass him. He called every agency in the book to complain but no one would do anything. He tried to get a copy of the arrest report but they told him he couldn't have one so he hired a PI to request it through the public records laws. They told the PI there was no arrest record and that the guy had never been in their jail. So much for that idea.