The American Form of Government

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MountainDon

March 13, 2009, 09:35:59 PM
I'm not sure where this video originated but it is quite good, IMO.
(click below)
Political Systems: Monarchy, Oligarchy, Democracy, Republic, Anarchy

It's ten minutes long, longer of you are on dialup.  ;D

I came across it on wimp.com
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sparks

#1
March 13, 2009, 10:24:16 PM
Nice find Don.




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glenn kangiser

#2
March 13, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
I can agree with that - I have been telling people for years that we are a republic- not a democracy, but that is all we have been selling to the world for years Democracy, democracy, democracy.  [noidea'

What gives... [waiting]
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ScottA

#3
March 13, 2009, 10:55:51 PM
Democracy was so Clinton era. We've had an Oligarchy for several years already.

MountainDon

#4
March 13, 2009, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
I have been telling people for years that we are a republic- not a democracy, but that is all we have been selling to the world for years Democracy, democracy, democracy. 

One of the things I like about that video is it presents a pretty clear explanation of the difference between a democracy and a republic. I believe the majority of the people in this country don't have a clue about the difference. Heck, tonight I caught a bit where an elected senator referred to the USA as being a democracy.

It is very frustrating. Even more frustrating is what has happened and is happening still with the erosion of what the Founders envisioned.

At 9 minutes and 15 seconds replace the word "Romans" with "Americans".  :(


Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

#5
March 13, 2009, 11:53:36 PM
I don't know what is happening here, Don.  I am in total agreement with you. :)  d* d* d*

They have been selling and preaching democracy for years - because it benefits them - We have been selling democracy to Iraq - check out the speeches over the years --- all of our polys - selling democracy. 

They do not want the limits a Republic (the one for which it stands), puts on them. 

If we got back to the Republic our founding fathers gave us, we would not have the problems we have today. 


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Sonoran

#6
March 14, 2009, 12:34:53 AM
I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC...
Individuality: You are all unique, just like everybody else.

BobHHowell

#7
March 14, 2009, 01:18:24 AM
If the Senate was still elected by the House instead of the public ... we would have one group of representation that was NOT beholden to lobbyist to get elected.  We have institutionalized bribery. 

Windpower

#8
March 14, 2009, 08:40:54 AM
Often, our ignorance is not as great as our reluctance to act on what we know.

BobHHowell

#9
March 14, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
The 10 steps to Fascism

But we really did (do?) have sleeper cells.  So, if you are paranoid, and someone really is following you ... are you still paranoid?

As for made up fears ... I think Global Warming ... I mean Global Climate Change ... takes the cake.

Pox Eclipse

#10
March 14, 2009, 07:10:57 PM

Quote from: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
I can agree with that - I have been telling people for years that we are a republic- not a democracy, but that is all we have been selling to the world for years Democracy, democracy, democracy.  

A republic and democracy are not mutually exclusive, you know...

We are a republic which is governed by system of representative democracy (where the people are represented by elected officials), rather than direct democracy (where everyone votes on every law).  This is in no way inconsistent with a republic.

MountainDon

#11
March 15, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
A direct democracy would be totally unworkable.
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

IronRanger

#12
March 18, 2010, 01:40:23 PM
Another good watch:

Naomi Wolf: 'Obama can lock any US citizen up without trial'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE&feature=player_embedded
"They must find it difficult, those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as authority"- G.Massey

"Freedom is just Chaos, with better lighting." - Alan Dean Foster

waggin

#13
March 18, 2010, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 11:53:36 PM
I don't know what is happening here, Don.  I am in total agreement with you. :)  d* d* d*

They have been selling and preaching democracy for years - because it benefits them - We have been selling democracy to Iraq - check out the speeches over the years --- all of our polys - selling democracy. 

They do not want the limits a Republic (the one for which it stands), puts on them. 

If we got back to the Republic our founding fathers gave us, we would not have the problems we have today. 





Be nice to America...or we'll bring democracy to your country too.
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pagan

#14
March 19, 2010, 08:35:11 AM
"Tyranny of the elite"...pretty much sums it all up right there.
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