I bought my last two stoves.

[peternap]

I came across these two in Craigslist today. They finish out the stoves I need. The Vermont casting was in use until yesterday. The lady wanted a front loader and bought a new one. When I told ger it WAS a frontloader, and the door was just stuck....she almost cried. Got it for 100.00



The second one is a Franklin. Good shape except dirty and dusty looking. 300.00. Done stove buying.


Still sick as a dog too.

[MountainDon]

You stole the Vermont Castings stove, Peter. 

[peternap]

You stole the Vermont Castings stove, Peter. 

YUP !

[glenn kangiser]

We have a Franklin that is convertible into an airtight stove.  Works great either way.  Good deals there, Peter.

[John_C]

At the risk of sounding cruel.  The lady who couldn't figure out that her stove had a door on the front might be safer with some other kind of heat.   

[considerations]

Here is a question on stoves.  Every installation guide I see says do not under any circumstances put in a chimney smaller than the flue opening. 

I think on my franklin stove with an 8" flue (just like the one in the pic on this thread) it means I cannot consider a 6" stove pipe. 

I'm not planning to do install a smaller pipe, I just want to know why the instructions I see say this.

Anyone know?

[MountainDon]

It's something to do with the overall design of the stove. I've been told that the reason many new stoves can use 6" pipe is the increased efficiency of newer stoves. The flue could be downsized from 8 to 6 inches because there is less air going through the system.

Anyhow, FWIW, that's what I've been told by two sources in the wood stove and chimney trade.

[glenn kangiser]

Possibly calculations for airflow say that you may get smoke into your house, but I wouldn't necessarily let that stop me from trying it.   Dampers used to be common and they restricted air flow usually without smoking.  Depends on the fire and your care in starting it.  Lighting paper under a pile of kindling could cause too much fuel to be released too soon - before the draft is established.  

Learned that in France  when I totally smoked up the cave we were staying in.  Bernard came down from the cave above  and showed me how to get the draft going through the underground stove pipe with a smaller fire first then make it bigger.

One thing I can say is that with pine, creosote may build up on the inside of the smaller pipe restricting it's flow sooner, requiring a couple chimney sweepings or more per season.

[considerations]

Thanks.  Just wanted to know why. 

[cordwood]

 The Mama Bear Fisher we have now has to have an 8" pipe, When we used the 6" that came with it you could not add wood without smoking up the house. I took the reducer off of the back instaled all 8" pipe and it has worked great ever since. We burn about 8 cords a year through it.
Both Ben Franklins I owned in the past smoked no matter what I tried. The only way I got one to work halfway decent was to put it in a fireplace that was in too bad of shape to burn in directly. The flue dampner had already fallen out so we just ran 8" flue pipe all the way up the brick chimney, An old cabin above Cedar City Utah that I am sure is a ruin by now.