The players of 9-11

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glenn kangiser

Good article giving info on the Official Conspiracy Theory as espoused by the USG, identifying the suspects and where they are coming from and why.

I am surprised that we have so many Israeli US dual citizens running our country.  MAakes you wonder where their loyalty lies.

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/911_attack/news.php?q=1207934314

Players and ID's are toward the bottom of the page.
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sparks

 What's next? How far can these sort of shenanigans go?

Oil? Power? Control? My god is bigger than your god?

Which brings to mind, if god is so all powerful, can he make a rock soooo large he can't lift it??
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glenn kangiser

Interesting point that there were so few required to pull it off -- the rest were mostly confused sheep, and the reason the secret is being guarded so well is that it could be a death sentence if any of these traitors talked.

...and he's probably still working on it.  The god of these people is surely not the real God.
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sparks

  What was it that Churchill said?  Something about so much owed to so many by so few??  aarrghh :-\
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glenn kangiser

Thats good enough for me, Sparks.

An airlines security insider told me he could not understand how they could sacrifice so many people to forward their cause.  He knew they did it.  It took about half an hour to pry that admission out of him.  I could tell he was really repulsed by what he knew. 

In the scheme of things -- from their point of view ...

QuoteWhy kill your own people?

This is the toughest part for the uninitiated to understand. The people who planned and executed the treasonous, heinous crimes of 9-11 are largely drawn from a handful of people known as NeoCons. Many of these are current or former members of PNAC (Project for the New American Century). Many are disciples of Leo Strauss, a German-born, fascistic, political philosopher who taught at the University of Chicago. Strauss thought that the average person was too stupid to decide what is in their best interest and that a ruling elite should govern all of humanity.

...we are nothing but breeders of cannon fodder for the big guns of the elite and their military industrial complex.
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sparks

  Glen, there are small handful of us still around...the sixties ....and ... seventies....and maybe a smidgen of the truth........even a little bit of truth is better than none.....KTF.....
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glenn kangiser

I had my eyes opened by my second grade teacher...meaner than hell but she told it like it was.  That would have been in about 1959.  They can promote their lies all they want but some of us can see through them.

In general the type of people who make it to the top didn't get there by being anyone you can trust or anyone who cares about the people they consider to be below them.

They have learned to generate fear by giving the people a common enemy they are scared to death of.  They cause the 95% of the people who will give up anything for protection from the bogeyman to do just that -- they willingly give up their freedoms one by one for protection by the real enemy who is in control of the country. 

They teach the children of the fearful in their controlled state schools, to respond to bells and whistles.  To think that they must not think for themselves, that they must have team spirit, to unquestioningly follow their mascot whether right or wrong.  All authority in a public school is a representative of god himself and parents who question it will be quickly brought into line by police and even court action.

America -- the land of the free.  Ha ... free to do what.  To sit back -- shut up and go with the flow.... that's what.

Sit back -- ignore reality, ignore physics, because that's what our infallible leaders have told us. 

Believe the unbelievable lie because its what our leaders have told us and to face reality is to admit that we are being royally screwed over and we just can't bear to face that.  It just couldn't be true that everything they have told us is a lie.  Nope -- better to close our eyes and pretend it isn't happening.  Yes... sleep......sleep.........sleep

Sorry.  I don't buy it.
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sparks

On Sept. 11, 2001 I sat down in front of a tv about 20 seconds before the second plane hit the Trade Center. My only thoughts were something like, how could they do this?

The next day it was more like, why did 'we' let 'them' do it?

And when I attempt to discuss the subject with anyone today, I get treated like i've got the plague!!
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glenn kangiser

I am an Instrument/Commercial rated pilot and the second I heard  that a plane hit the WTC and the official conspiracy lies by the criminals holding office, I knew that our government was at the very least assisting it to happen if not the full sponsor of it.

In my little 6 passenger plane, I have been a very short distance off course on IFR due to turbulence near a restricted area, and been intercepted by the military. I knew there was no way one of those planes could have done all that flying around off course without getting intercepted.

Military planes were ordered to stand down on 9-11.

War games were scheduled the same places the same day to make a cover of confusion.

http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/02/all-roads-lead-to-dick-cheney.html

Bush family members were in charge of security at the affected airports and WTC at that time. 

Jeb Bush declared Martial law in Florida 4 days before 9/11.

It looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
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sparks

It is a duck.

Envy you Glenn, I wanted to get a pilot's license in the worst way. However a certain character defect kept that from happening.

Man, there's a lot of ducks out there.
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MountainDon

100 octane avgas is $5.24 a gallon locally. It's a little cheaper at a couple of regional air fields with self serve.

Private planes just became even more pricey
Just because something has been done and has not failed, doesn't mean it is good design.

glenn kangiser

I got it, Sparks but the first year here in Mariposa the plane had corrosion at annual so it never came out of the shop.  After landing here I wasn't looking to go anywhere else so I don't know if I'll fly again.  I did more in 10 years than most people will do in their lives flying casually, so it doesn't matter to me.

Wow -- that gas is up there -- seems 6 years ago it was still $2.50

More incentive to not worry about it.
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sparks

The 9-11 subject has gotten me into more trouble than anything else on the net.

Good stuff Glenn.

It appears this is a limited participation thread.

Some people have an opinion, some don't.

Me?? A nature lover. Just watching the ducks.....
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glenn kangiser

I know what you mean and I don't care what people think about me.  I will present it to them every so often because every so often one of them will put two thoughts  together and it will click and things will start to make sense. 

Most do not want to know and would rather believe things are all peachy keen-- like the Germans around 1940.  I keep beating this dead horse because it is the big lie that started all of the crap we're in now.  It is when the criminals took control of our country.  (OK -- so when the bigger criminals took control-- yup -- we've had more than our share).

[deadhorse]

Our leaders know what is best, will protect us, look out for us  and will do what is best to protect us and keep us the best country  in the world forever. Our freedom and privacy is a small price to pay.

Not.
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sparks


"NOT"  How dare you say 'not' ??  rofl rofl  You some kind of infidel??
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glenn kangiser

#15
I hope so.

I just can't understand how the majority will buy the official lies without question.

I can understand them not being able to do anything about it but not their buying it.

Even many in our military are not buying it and have given their lives to stop our criminal leaders.

Info on the recently stolen nukes and the dead heroes who stopped the theft - the ducks again.  Note - one nuke did go missing -- look for it to show up in a city near you -- courtesy of Michael Chertoff's gut feeling (dual Israeli/American citizen  -- order of loyalty not specified).

http://www.pim-fortuyn.nl/pfforum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=53501

Several airmen gave their lives to try to stop that one.  Dead of various questionable causes but still dead --

It might have been ducks...bird flu? ???
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sparks

Re: "The majority buying the official lies"

Remember the Maine. The Lusitania. A day which will live in infamy. Tonkin?  Who's pigs?

Ollie North?  Osama o' Bama???   Flight 800......Grateful I had no reason to go to Paris that day.

Manipulation....Domination........the end of a nation  .......

I do not fear for my own life. Only the grandchildren.

Uummmm, shotgun recommendation????

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Ernest T. Bass

Quote from: sparks on April 16, 2008, 11:25:15 PM
It appears this is a limited participation thread.

I don't have anything to add, 'cuz you guys hit the nail on the head perfectly.. But, just for the record, I'm cheering you on. :)

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sparks

Ernest T,

I don't believe anybody has hit the nail on the head yet. However, there are those out there that are getting much, much closer. Stay tuned.
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glenn kangiser

Andrew, it is nice to know that another one is at least aware.  Thanks for posting that comment.  I feel this is important information for people to understand and not hide from even if they don't or can't do anything about it. 

People knowing things like this may be the only thing that has kept our criminals occupying the White House from bombing Iran or even setting a nuke off in our own country and blaming it on the Muslims to tighten their stranglehold on the fearful unknowing citizens of our country.  It also helps them to make plans - possibly in a different better manner for the care of their families, loved ones and future.

It can be part of the explanation of why a few of the city types are selling out and moving to the country to build homes and be more self reliant.

What a terrible thing to say of our leaders, you say. [shocked]  Why would you say such a thing? hmm

Because it has been done many times in the past, and the criminals in office are worse than they were in the past.  You can tell what they will do in the future by studying what they have done in the past, then reading the fine print written between the BS.

http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/070906_false_flag.html

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Terrorism/10_False_Flag_Operations.html

The Reichstag fire is an interesting one as it is a close parallel to 9/11 and the Bush family was quite close to Hitler in business dealings.  It looks like they learned some great lessons from him.  ::)

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Sassy

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Ernest T. Bass

Quote from: glenn kangiser on April 18, 2008, 12:06:55 AM
What a terrible thing to say of our leaders, you say. [shocked]  Why would you say such a thing? hmm

No, I'd never say that... :) Try as you might, you can't surprise me with any of this. ;) This is common daily discussion in our household...

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glenn kangiser

Interesting point you bring up.  Consistency on the part of the ones who have a clue of what is going on.  Common daily discussion of this in your family and yet you agree with what we are saying.

If there was not truth in it, then the story would not be consistent.  This applies also to the official government false flag operation. 

It is so full of holes that they will not let a legitimate investigation be done of it.  The only way you can believe it is if you are willing to completely ignore the truth and facts as you know them and enter into he fantasy land of the government lies, where a woman can stand in a gaping hole waving a flag for help, in a building that is supposed to be hot enough to be molten and instantly falling.

The evidence was whisked away immediately to be melted down so it could not be analyzed.

I think it is great that your parents make you aware of the situation in the US and the world, and that they care enough to teach you all how to be self sufficient.
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Heather

I can only agree with what has been said here. I find it a relief to see that
there are still people in the world thinking for themselves.

I just wanted to tell Glenn and Sassy, I really admire you and Sassy,
I enjoy reading what both of you have to say, and have yet to disagree
with it.

Also, I think your house is awesome. My only complaint would have to be my almost
9 year old daughter is rather disgusted that we are building a "boring" above ground house
when clearly we could do so much better.  :)

glenn kangiser

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Thanks so much for the encouragement, Heather.

Seems you have a very smart young daughter with some very strong points.  :)

It is hard to keep trying to get people to look at what is going on around them when the vast majority of them don't want to know, think you are crazy for not believing the official lies like most everyone else, and, being good people themselves, they want to believe that their leaders have the same high regard for life that they do.

If only that were the case. 

The citizens of the US are nothing more than meat to the greedy power mongers holding the offices of leadership of our country now.  Nothing more than a breeding factory for the production of sons and daughters to sacrifice their lives and sanity for the sake of corporate greed, oil, power, the guaranteed provision of oil and protection to Israel, and protection of private contractors who benefit stock holdings and corporations held by our politicians.

http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4504 Guaranteed oil - we are required to carry a reserve for them.

http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Oil%20Guarantee.pdf  Renewed quietly every 5 years.

The NYFD fire fighters know many of their people were sacrificed to forward the cause of the current regime and maybe daddy Bush's (and others) NWO?, in the  9/11 attack, which answered the needs of the PNAC suggestion that a new Pearl Harbor was necessary to put the plan into motion.  http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html

How convenient to have the attacks happen on the very same day the attack games were being played and directed by Cheney and others in NY.  That must have really added to the confusion -- as if it wasn't planned. (Note that they used the same MO later in Britain in the bombings there-- this is bigger than just the US).

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/455418/bush_knew_of_9_11_cheney_forced_norad_to_stand_down/  (This is a must see.)

QuoteThe strategic "transformation" of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination would require a huge increase in defense spending to "a minimum level of 3.5 to 3.8 percent of gross domestic product, adding $15 billion to $20 billion to total defense spending annually," the PNAC plan said.

"The process of transformation," the plan said, "is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor."

American Free Press asked Christopher Maletz, assistant director of the PNAC about what was meant by the need for "a new Pearl Harbor."

"They needed more money to up the defense budget for raises, new arms, and future capabilities," Maletz said. "Without some disaster or catastrophic event" neither the politicians nor the military would have approved, Maletz said.

The "new Pearl Harbor," in the form of the terror attacks of Sept. 11, provided the necessary catalyst to put the global war plan into effect. Congress quickly allocated $40 billion to fund the "war on terrorism" shortly after 9-11.
from http://www.americanfreepress.net/12_24_02/America_Pearl_Harbored/america_pearl_harbored.html

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