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Title: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 11, 2007, 11:41:32 AM
Since I got so much inspiration from this site I thought I shoud share my project. We are just getting started. I'll update as we progress. This structure is based on the Victorias cottage but it's been changed alot. I'll try to get a plan up soon.

Here's some shots of the foundation work under way.


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Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 11, 2007, 07:33:15 PM
Thanks for the pix, Scott.  Glad you decided to share with us. :)

Nice woods there.  Should be a great place to build.  Will this be a primary residence?
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 12, 2007, 04:31:32 AM
Yep this is my retirment home/cabin. Why is it when you tell your friends you are building a house you suddenly can't get intouch with them on digging days?

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 12, 2007, 05:19:20 AM
You need some friends who don't know why they are coming over. :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on October 12, 2007, 05:47:50 AM
Scott, when we were hand-digging out from the crawlspace  to rebuild the floor of our old house in Oklahoma, we would invite all of our friends over for a great dinner and tell them we had activities planned, so they should wear old clothes!  They were great friends because every single time they came and helped, it rained cats and dogs!  BUT they got to eat one of the best meals they'd had in ages (they were mostly grad students at the time.)  I would cook like it was Christmas, Easter, and Thanksgiving all rolled into one!  (If you feed them, they will come.   ;D)  Have any starving students nearby that you could recruit?   If you're close to Stillwater, just walk into the MAE department and hold up a sign that says, "Free food, follow me!"
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on October 12, 2007, 02:24:08 PM
Just make sure the beer doesn't come out until the end of the day!
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 18, 2007, 12:59:11 PM
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Looking back at corner #3 finnished 2 days ago. Poured corner #4 today.
Anyone need an oak log 16"x14' ?

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on October 18, 2007, 01:10:36 PM
I'd love an oak log but it's too long for UPS or FedEx   :'(   ;D ;D

I appreciate the slow hard work that goes into those holes in the ground.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 18, 2007, 07:58:18 PM
That's a nice big fairly straight Oak log.  My sawmill is lusting after it. ;D
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on October 18, 2007, 08:16:15 PM
I have first dibs, Glenn!

(Is that an Americanism or just something Canuks understand?)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 18, 2007, 10:16:46 PM
No - Americans understand it.  Sassy got first dibs on the top bunk when she was a kid so she could wipe her feet off on her sisters blankets as she climbed up to the top. ::)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 27, 2007, 09:12:20 AM
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Not much progress this week due to crappy weather but I did get corner 4 done and the center pier on the north side.

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Figured I'd sneak in this picture of the lake I took this morning. This was taken about 1/4 mile from where I'm building the cabin.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 14, 2007, 08:47:28 PM
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I finaly got around to uploading a floorplan. Sorry for the delay. (updated plan shows better loft detail)

Bed sits on loft floor (7'-6" high) so you climb right into bed from ladder. Ladder tilts in/out for stowing/access. Will be a ships ladder type design. There will also be an attic storage area above the bathroom.

Veranda/deck is 5 1/2" lower than cabin floor.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 14, 2007, 09:11:21 PM
Interesting -different design, Scott. :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ListerD on November 15, 2007, 04:13:37 AM
Whoah! I like that!

First thing that came to mind was screening in the veranda as a sleeping porch. But done with removable screen panels so the "room" has multiple purposes. You could even make glass or plexi panels to mount there in the winter to trap some heat.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on November 15, 2007, 04:20:18 AM
Scott, I like the design... different is good. :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 15, 2007, 08:59:23 AM
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Here's a couple of shots of the foundation progress I took this morning. I'm slow I know. Should be done with block work in 2 weeks if the weather holds. Leaves are really starting to come down now.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on November 16, 2007, 04:20:58 PM
Scott, which lake are you on?  Looks like a nice place.  My folks used to own a little place at Eufala, near Belle Star Landing, but they never got around to building anything on it.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 16, 2007, 04:39:56 PM
Lake Hudson. 50 miles east of Tulsa.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on November 17, 2007, 05:19:36 PM
Pretty part of the state over there.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Woodswalker on November 18, 2007, 07:01:15 AM
Scott,

Thanks for the nice pics.  Look forward to seeing more as you progress.  Your open floor plan should work well with the wood stove.  I've been heating with wood for 20yrs, and love it.  Hope you're planning some sort of window or vent for the sleeping loft area.  I've slept in lofts of cabins heated with wood, and found the heat up there to be overwhelming.  Then later, as the fire dies and your're finally asleep with no covers, the cold kicks in to wake you.  If you're on the grid, a ceiling fan would help greatly.

Nice to see you're using the really correct way of starting a foundation, with batter boards and lines.  Slow and accurate at this stage will pay big dividends later.

As for that nice oak log, you may be able to find someone locally with a portable, bandsaw type of sawmill that could saw it into some nice stuff.  Around here, they'll do it for a portion of the resulting lumber.

Keep on build'n,

Steve
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 19, 2007, 03:06:13 PM
Thanks for the kind words Woodswalker. Yes, there will be a window in the sleeping loft.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: desdawg on November 28, 2007, 04:30:26 AM
Hey Scott, I like your design. Very efficient use of a small space. I don't get into looking at these threads too often because my dial up connection takes soooo long to load the pictures. I had a Verizon wireless card for a while and it worked great-everywhere but here at my primary residence. Anyway it is good to see what you are doing.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 28, 2007, 05:48:38 AM
Thanks desdawg. I originaly planned to do a 16x24 but after a zillion designs this was the best way i came up with to fit everything in. I needed the extra 2' to allow room for a dinning table in chairs in the center of the room without being cramped. Very little space is wasted. I thought about going to 28' but it looked like the extra footage would just be wasted space. Less to heat and cool the better around here.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 28, 2007, 07:25:42 AM
Hey desdawg, there is a dial up accelerator program available if you don't already have it.  I haven't used it in so long I don't remember what it was -- yes I do - Accellanet -- or similar..  It is a little program that shrinks and compresses on both ends.  Some ISP's offer it -- it is available from outside them too though.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: desdawg on December 01, 2007, 04:44:03 AM
I had one of those accelerators at one time. It was free but came complete with tracking cookies and all kinds of junk. Things worked much better when I finally got rid of it. If Verizon ever gets another tower in my area I will go back to using the PC device as it really is pretty good when you have the signal strength. Their tower to the south of me is blocked by some hills and the one to the north is just at or beyond the limits of it's range capabilities. Verizon is letting me cancel part or all of my services without the early temination fees if I so choose so they have been good about it. They would be the best company for my phones and the PC if they just got that next tower in place but while it is on the drawing board it isn't on the construction schedule yet. LOL.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 02, 2007, 09:05:57 AM
I tried to reduce the pics as best I could so folks could DL them easier. I can remember my dial up days and I know it's no fun to wait 20 minutes for a page to load.

Piers are finnished as of friday and I'll be getting started on the main floor beams this comming week. Spent some hours raking leaves and cleaning up all the loose rocks under the house in preperation for crawl work. I'll be digging the stubouts for the plumbing and electrical in the next few days as well.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 13, 2007, 10:00:42 AM
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Foundation beams are done. Weather is still crappy for over a week now. Starting on the floor tomorrow weather permiting.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 13, 2007, 01:42:52 PM
Must feel good to be started.  :)

Re the picture, most anybody should be able to handle/see the 800x600 size okay.

What image processing software do you use? From what I can see the jpg compression could be upped for images that are meant only for web viewing. No big deal, the image loaded fast for me, but I'm on a mis speed DSL line. I'm just going by image size (169KB... IMO it could be compressed down to 115 KB or so and most folks would not see any difference.) NO big deal, just FYI.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 13, 2007, 02:07:20 PM
Feels good to be out of the ground Don.

Re. the pics I just shrank the size in windows paint. I didn't think about it being able to go smaller by reducing the quality. I might try that on the next pics .
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 13, 2007, 02:43:45 PM
I don't think MS Paint has the option for choosing JPG quality. Like I said not a big deal.

I use Photoshop (educator's version) and/or ULead Smartsaver. Smartsaver is cool. It allows you to change compression and see the before and after in side-by-side windows. That's all it does... no other image editing. Both cost money though.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 13, 2007, 06:28:16 PM
If you have to upload with dial up, then reducing the pix first is a real time saver, but if on DSL it may be easiest to load to Photobucket then click the 640x480  or so option for output size.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 13, 2007, 06:46:14 PM
If you have to upload with dial up, then reducing the pix first is a real time saver, but if on DSL it may be easiest to load to Photobucket then click the 640x480  or so option for output size.
But he doesn't use Photobucket. He uses what appears to be web space provided by his ISP, BrightNet Oklahoma.   :-\
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 13, 2007, 08:01:04 PM
Obviously I didn't know that because I don't listen well enough. d* ::)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 13, 2007, 08:20:17 PM
You just weren't nosy enough
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 13, 2007, 08:26:33 PM
I'm probably nosy enought but russhing through things since I was behind -- work interfering with the forum. :(
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 13, 2007, 08:30:24 PM
We forgive you for placing the dollar above this. After all your diesel doesn't grow on trees.  ;D
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 13, 2007, 08:40:45 PM
Thanks, Don.  At least I made them pay half travel time at the regular rate to cover it.  Need money to pay for toys too. ::)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 16, 2007, 02:29:18 PM
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My son and I got out and worked a little today. This angle stuff was frying my brain for a bit but I think we got it worked out.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 17, 2007, 03:46:32 PM
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Made a little progress on the floor today. Shutting down work on this for a few days since I got a paying house job to start tomorrow. I'll get back on it asap. Talked to my lumber guy today about ordering the framing lumber. He said he needed 3 weeks lead time on my ceiling beams since they seem to be non stock items. But he does have my douglas fir studs.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 17, 2007, 06:44:33 PM
Looks good, Scott.  I see I'm not the only one who sells himself for money.  :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 22, 2007, 08:48:08 AM
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Got some help from friends and finnished up the floor framing before the rain started and decked the veranda. We'll see when the weather lets me do the subfloor.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on December 22, 2007, 09:01:26 AM
Looks good Scott. Well thought out detail with the porch.  :D

Merry Christmas to all!
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 22, 2007, 09:36:08 PM
Looks good, Scott.  Looks like you  got the original CCA PT wood -- I think it is better than the new stuff and I think it is still available for commercial uses. 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 23, 2007, 07:00:07 AM
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Looks like you  got the original CCA PT wood -- I think it is better than the new stuff and I think it is still available for commercial uses. 

I'm not sure Glen but it's all our local lumber guy sells. He thought I was nuts for putting 2x8's for decking. He said,  That ought to last forever.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 23, 2007, 08:58:12 AM
Scott I was wondering about the decking also. What influenced your choice of 2X verses 5/4 decking.  Looks like you have a great start.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 23, 2007, 09:09:48 AM
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What influenced your choice of 2X verses 5/4 decking.

Look and feel mostly. I wanted something that felt more substatial and solid if that makes sence. My brother has 5/4 on his deck and it's fine I supose but it always felt kinda flemsy to me.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on December 23, 2007, 12:50:18 PM
I did 2x4 cedar on my North deck and I'm glad I did. After 25 years some of the boards needed replacing but there was still plenty of meat and we were never in danger of breaking through even though I procrastinated for several years.  ;)

This deck is almost constantly wet for 8 months of the year.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 23, 2007, 02:15:47 PM
I'd like to have ready local access to cedar here. The only cedar we see are fence pickets.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 24, 2007, 12:23:31 PM
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Got out and worked on the house a little today. Weather is fantastic for this time of year.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 27, 2007, 05:32:06 AM
I got some disturbing news yesterday. The hiway department refsed my request to build an all weater access road to my property saying there wasn't enough visability. What makes me mad is I had the local superintendent come out and look at my plans back in October and he said he didn't see any problems and signed my application. What's more there are 6 other roads connected to the hiway within a mile of my place and none of those roads meets the state requirments either and a couple have less visability than mine. One of these roads was built by a land developer less than 6 months ago. A call to the superintendent that signed my application wasn't returned. So now I'm faced with building a 600' road intead of a 100' road. Something smells in this whole deal.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on December 27, 2007, 09:03:38 AM
Sorry to hear you have to start playing politics! >:(

You might take photos of the other access points, make a report and send copies around to higher-ups. If you don't lose your cool and ask for a review in a professional manner it might be worth the effort.

All this stuff is just opinions anyway and subject to which side of the bed someone got up on. (And opinions can change - especially if heels don't get dug in.)

Best wishes for the new year. At least the building is looking good. :D
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 27, 2007, 09:26:56 AM
Well I got the the girl at the hiway office to tell me the super is on vacation this week. She also told me that these visability regulations are a written standard that the engineers must go by. I asked about the recent road built by the developer and basicly she told me he didn't have a permit but built it anyways. I hinted at if she knew what would happen if I did the same and she didn't say anything. This leads me to belive that they know the rules don't work in the real world and will basicly look the other way as long as they can deny any responsability.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 31, 2007, 02:29:30 PM
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My son and I finnished the subfloor today.

Happy New Year All!
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 31, 2007, 05:04:04 PM
Good progress, Scott.  The best to you too.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: lonelytree on December 31, 2007, 05:08:16 PM
Looks great!!!!

I am starting to really like it.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 31, 2007, 05:18:47 PM
See he's got a wood pile back there.  :)

All the best in '08!
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 04, 2008, 01:25:47 PM
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We have a wall.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 07, 2008, 02:57:19 PM
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These logs will become the posts that will hold up the loft and roof over the veranda after I get them peeled and cut to size.

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Finnished 10 more feet of wall framing by the kitchen window.

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This limb came down in the ice storm last month. It landed 20' from the cabin. We had debated cutting this tree down when we where clearing. I guess Mother Nature decided it needed to come down. I won't argue the point.

Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 07, 2008, 03:13:09 PM
ScottA

Just set 5 Locust post today ( avg 8-10" diam) for the porch roof support. Hope your's were lighter than mine.  I have several larger trees left around my cabin but I think if they go it will be the other direction.  While working on the cabin I had a rock or chestnut oak fall from the ice. It was 24-30"diam. I hadn't expected it to go. Wasn't really near the cabin but it decided it had stood long enough I guess. :o
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 07, 2008, 05:19:56 PM
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Hope your's were lighter than mine.

Nothing light about these logs. Also 8-10" but white oak. Was quite an effort getting them out of the truck.

Sorry you lost that big oak. I hate to see them go. I think we are safe from the trees for now. This was the only one that was really iffy and as predicted it missed when it fell.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 07, 2008, 05:56:46 PM
I had noticed this summer that there was a fungus growing around the base but didn't pay that much attention to actually what it was. When it went down there were no roots attached to the stump. It was just like they had disolved. Thats probably what the fungus was.  It was not that good of a species anyway. Doesn't burn that clean for firewood(leaves alot of ash).

Interesting about the weight. I hauled mine up on a trailer that I had loaded them onto with the tractor at the house. Normally I would have left my tractor on the mountain but most of my really heavy lifting was over and I moved it back home for the snow season. Anyway my son 13 YOA went with me to take them up on Saturday. On the way he said "shucks the tractor is at the house how are we going to unload them". I told him " the old way son with your back" his reply again "shucks".  We got it done by swinging them from the trailer to the porch using the side of the trailer to cantelever them over onto the porch floor. Took about 5 minutes.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 10, 2008, 12:18:22 PM
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Revised floorplan. Additional details added and some minor changes.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 12, 2008, 07:11:06 AM
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Made a little progress this week. This framing stuff is harder than it looks.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 12, 2008, 07:17:11 AM
Looks good, Scott.  That porch will be cool.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: CWhite on January 14, 2008, 04:27:21 PM
I look forward to seeing how your porch works in under the roof.  I do like your floor plan very much.  Lots of planning went into that, and it sure looks like it will be very livable. 
Watching your progress,
Christina
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on January 15, 2008, 09:49:52 AM
Scott, I really like the fact that though it is really small, it is very well thought-out and completely liveable.... I sometimes wonder how the pioneers lived in such small cabins and dugouts, but then a little planning goes a very long way.  Your house is going to be awesome... and by the way, I like having the washer and dryer right inside the door because when you come in covered in red clay or manure or whatever, it'll be nice to be able to shed everything right into the washer without having to track through the whole house.  Looks like your weather is going to be a little cooler this week for working outdoors... hope that the framing goes faster as you go, and that the weather will cooperate with you on it. 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 15, 2008, 12:48:33 PM
Thanks for the kind encouraging words. I spent several months trying to boil down what's really needed in a home without losing anything that is. My wife is starting to fall in love with the design even though she was sceptical at first that I could make a small house work. Problem is when women start taking an intrest in a house the price seems to suddenly start going up. I originaly planned on rustic but now it looks like like this will become some sort of craftsman style home with details to the nines. Craftsman style being much more high end than rustic but still woodsy. She has some really cool ideas so this might turn out rather well if I can pull it all together. My best friend is an expert at high end interiors and woodworking so I might get lucky.

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Here's an example. That round hole was going to be a normal window($200) . After my wife got involved it turned into this...

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$800 specialty window. http://www.andersenwindows.com/servlet/Satellite/AW/AWProduct/awProductDetail/AWProduct/1136264459195/1102951372825?model=400+Series+Circle+Windows&pc=Window&tab=1-1 (http://www.andersenwindows.com/servlet/Satellite/AW/AWProduct/awProductDetail/AWProduct/1136264459195/1102951372825?model=400+Series+Circle+Windows&pc=Window&tab=1-1)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: CWhite on January 15, 2008, 02:06:09 PM


I like the specialty window, and completely understand needing those details.  I paid more for the 2 quarter rounds in my house than any other window in the house, and had to wait 6 weeks for them to arrive.  They really add a lot to the front, and I'm glad I did it.  My husband nods a lot, but he really agrees with those windows being there. 

Now your house is going to be even more fun to watch the progress on. 

When women get involved, it becomes a home. 
Christina

Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on January 15, 2008, 05:38:11 PM
That's looking good Scott. I like the 'specialty' window. I have an 2 ft. octagon shape in our plans. And I did it to ourselves, myself.  ;D  No input needed. I can spend money with the same flourish as my wife.  :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on January 15, 2008, 08:38:00 PM
Scott A said:  "My wife is starting to fall in love with the design even though she was sceptical at first that I could make a small house work. Problem is when women start taking an intrest in a house the price seems to suddenly start going up. I originaly planned on rustic but now it looks like like this will become some sort of craftsman style home with details to the nines."

Christina said:  "When a woman gets involved, it becomes a home"

Glenn said, "when a man makes a home, it's a nest"    d* d*

BTW, I like your plan Scott & I like even more what your wife is adding  :) ;D


Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on January 16, 2008, 07:09:15 AM
Better watch out, Scott.  When women get involved it becomes more complicated.  When the stove went out two Novembers ago, I got involved in the remodeling process of our kitchen, and even though it didn't cost more (probably less, actually) than what DH was thinking, it has certainly been time-consuming and complicated.  After 14 months, we're finally done with all the major work in there... there are still touch-ups, but nothing huge.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: williet on January 16, 2008, 07:18:58 AM
Scott,
I see those windows at the Habitat restore all the time. Have you looked there? It might be a different size, but around here, it would only cost $30 or $40 and most likely be new.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 16, 2008, 10:24:54 AM
It's already more complicated Homegrown but that's ok we have plenty of time. I don't need to move in for 2 more years. I haven't discussed it but this is just phase 1 of the project. We also plan to build a small guest cottage that will be conected via a deck extention. I'm looking for designs for that already. I like the little 200 sq. ft. cottage I saw in the contest thread. There is also a garage a shop and alot of landscaping plans in the works as well.

Willet I've got several people out looking already for a cheaper window. There is a habitat store in Tulsa. I may drive over soon and have a look. If you see one somewhere for $40 I'd gladly buy it for double and pay the shipping. The framing is for the 2-0 version Andersen makes.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 16, 2008, 01:43:06 PM
Scott there is a builders auction coming up in this area 2/2 and they always have a few of those windows new for around $40-60. Some are special order and returned because of the wrong size.  I haven't paid full price for windows in the last 4 years since they started coming around. I got a Andersons double hung double 36" window set for $25(new). Shame you are not closer.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on January 17, 2008, 10:59:27 AM
Scott, there is a Habitat Re-Store in Stillwater, too (I know that's a ways from you, but it might be worth a day trip sometime.)  At least, I am assuming it is still there.  It is right off 177 just on the south side of town, as you cross the railroad tracks to the right less than a block... think it is on 9th?  Maybe one of these days when the weather is bad for building you could just take a mini-road trip down there and stop for some good Mexican food at El Tapatio.  My old landlord used to get a lot of his stuff there for fixing up the dumps he and his wife would buy... then he'd sell them after collecting rent for a few years for 2-3x what he paid.

 Your plans sound good... I daydream a lot, but at this point that's all it is.... waiting for DH to get a job offer so that we can move back to OK.  I keep clicking my heels together and saying, "There's no place like home, there's no place like home, there's no place like home," but it hasn't worked yet.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 17, 2008, 11:17:41 PM
Careful, Homegrown.  You'll end up in Kansas.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on January 18, 2008, 07:24:33 AM
Glenn, at the rate we're going, that's where we're going to end up.  DH got an offer yesterday there... we're thinking about it.  Not quite home, but a heck of a lot closer... ???  and a relocation package second to none which would eliminate most of the stress of moving... 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 18, 2008, 08:29:12 PM
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Still plugging along. The snow melted off today so I made some progress.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on January 18, 2008, 08:32:03 PM
nice views through the window!  Glenn has tried to ban me from using that word "view"- everytime he wants to build shop stuff or put his equipment certain places I tell him it will ruin the "view" ...   ::)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 18, 2008, 08:44:23 PM
Yup...She can't say the "V" word. [crz]
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 18, 2008, 08:52:29 PM
I was thinking to park the backhoe right in front of that window. Sound like a good spot glen?
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 18, 2008, 09:24:32 PM
That's what I would do. :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 19, 2008, 01:49:47 PM
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Some other angles of the cabin. Worked on the bumpout today. Was a very cold day. My brain was numb by the time I left to go home.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on January 19, 2008, 04:48:24 PM
I was thinking to park the backhoe right in front of that window. Sound like a good spot glen?

Scott, are you taking "passive/aggressive lessons from Glenn?  ??? d*

btw, lookin good - looks pretty tidy to me!   :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 20, 2008, 08:30:14 AM
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Scott, are you taking "passive/aggressive lessons from Glenn?

In some ways this whole project is passive/aggressive. I mean who decides to build a 360 sq. ft. home in the woods that doesn't have some resentment of the status quo. I'm basicly telling the system to kiss my behind. We're even considering a privacy fence between us and the road with a locked gate.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on January 20, 2008, 04:12:47 PM
We have a locked gate where the forest service road crosses onto our property with a four wire barbed wire fence to keep the range cattle out. At times it's a small hassle, like when we expect visitors. But knowing that it keeps most (honest) folks off our land more than compensates.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 20, 2008, 11:31:23 PM
Good attitude, Scott.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 21, 2008, 04:09:25 AM
Don once you get things established you could always buy some 3" pipe and make a cattle guard at the crossing and not have that gate and fence to worry about.  Of course you would still have your entrance up the road to keep gated.  When I started my project the first thing I did was install gates.  It didn't stop the foot traffic but did make it more difficult to drive in and take things.  But I have to "knock on wood" I haven't had anything bothered in almost two years.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on January 21, 2008, 06:33:18 AM
I am all in favor of good fences and gates.  Our family farm used to get a lot of prowlers because it had a driveway 1/4 mile long or longer.  A lot of the "prowlers" were kids looking for a place to park or party because they didn't realize it was a driveway (thought it was an old, semi-unused road.)  Grandpa never tired of stepping out in the drive with a shotgun and standing there in front of their cars until they saw him, freaked out, and started frantically trying  to back down the drive in the dark.  We did have our share of prowlers who were out to steal and/or do harm.  Before putting in the gates, Grandma and Grandpa put in a big light up by the house that lit up the whole drive, carport, and parking area.  That didn't seem to deter the kids much. Then they put up a gate all the way at the end of the drive, but a lot of times neither of them wanted to walk all the way down (especially in bad weather) and back to shut it at night (they gave all of us family members keys to the padlocks they kept on the chain.)  When Grandpa got sick, they put in a second gate halfway up the driveway that they could control with a remote in the car.  There was a keypad on the gate and you could unlock it with a code... sometimes they closed both gates, but if weather was bad, they only closed the electric one.  Anyway, the gates deterred a lot more punk kids than the light ever did... though Grandpa and his shotgun were by far the scariest deterrent!
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 21, 2008, 10:43:44 AM
Our cabin is only 200' off the road so it's obvious that it's a driveway. We live in a pretty good area. Never had any problems. The cabin site is 1/4 mile away from my current house on the opposite side of the road so I don't see us having problems there either. We have a gate now but it hasn't been closed in 30 years. Doubt it even still works. Difference here is that you can't see the house from the road so no one even knows it's here. The cabin can be easily seen from the road in winter. I've been thinking my privacy needs to extend to the property line though and not just inside the house.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on January 21, 2008, 11:21:48 AM
we live at the end of a mile long private road - there are 3 houses before ours - our house is at the end of a 1/4mi dirt road - you don't even see the house when you drive up to it - most people wonder where it is  :)  We've thought about putting gates at the beginning of the dirt road or at the end closer to the house, but it's just too much hassle to get in & out of the vehicle to unlock, open, close, lock.  We have good neighbors & they keep an eye on things - know when strange vehicles or people drive by - their used to us, though  [crz] so they just ignore us.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on January 23, 2008, 07:47:14 AM
Summer before last we went camping in northern WI... really pretty area up there.  We had read about a waterfall that you could hike in to see, so we were looking for it, and we were in the right area, but there were no signs so we missed it and got lost on these beautiful dirt roads in the middle of nowhere... I saw a little sign that said "bed and breakfast, 7 mi" so out of curiosity we followed the little signs, thinking maybe we could ask the proprietors for directions.  Seemed a lot longer than a 7 mile trip because we didn't see another car, person, or even house in that whole time.  The road eventually dwindled down to two small tire tracks in the grass, which we followed, hoping to at least find a place to turn around.  Suddenly, we came up a little rise and there was the prettiest place you ever saw, two cabins and barns, and hanging baskets of purple and red petunias on the porch.  An older man sat on the front porch swing whittling.  He stood up and smiled when we stopped the car and even drew us a map to get back to the waterfall, which was only about 5 miles from there.  The B&B was called something like the Penokee Mt. Inn, or something like that... folks were really nice, but as far away from civilization as they were, I figured that they didn't even need gates... by the time you make it that far, you're pretty much expecting the road to just peter out entirely and to be in the middle of the forest somewhere; I was really surprised that there was actually a house out there by the time we got to it.  Now THAT's a private drive.  We sat on the porch and talked to the owners for a few minutes, and I was surprised to learn that they had just hosted a wedding party of 45 the day before. You would've never guessed it by the narrow path through the trees.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on January 23, 2008, 08:15:33 AM
Sounds like one of those idyllic places you usually only see in pix  :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 25, 2008, 01:02:48 PM
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Had alot of work this week and it was cold as hell so not alot of progress unfortunatly. Framed the bathroom and started on the storage loft above. Warmer weather comming this weekend so we might get more done tomorrow.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on January 25, 2008, 01:53:59 PM
Lookin' good Scott. :D
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 25, 2008, 08:32:31 PM
hmm Hmmm - my old boss told me he didn't heat the shop because the guys worked faster to stay warm.  Must not have been true. [crz]
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 26, 2008, 06:14:51 AM
I heard the same story when I was a kid just starting out Glen. Wasn't true then either. Thus the saying...slower than molasses in January.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 26, 2008, 11:04:58 AM
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We got the double 2x12 beam up for the sleeping loft this morning.

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Also got the joists installed for the storage loft.

My buddy came over to help this morning. He suggested a barrel vault cieling for the sleeping loft.

Here's a rough sketch of what we are considering.

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This would be done in toungue and groove wood of some kind. I need to study it a bit but my wife likes the idea. Right now though I need a break.  :P
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 26, 2008, 09:54:46 PM
Looks good, Scott.  Barrel vault looks interesting.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on January 27, 2008, 05:11:51 PM
It will be extra work but the idea merits study. It would be a charming ship-like interior space that would also allow you to increase the insulation value in the ceiling rafters.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 28, 2008, 12:20:06 PM
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Veranda posts and beams.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 28, 2008, 06:23:02 PM
Looks good, Scott.  No concerns with them interfering with the view of the backhoe?
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 28, 2008, 07:12:27 PM
Damn I didn't think of that. Maybe if I park it just right it will be ok.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 02, 2008, 01:13:39 PM
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Another slow week. Weather to blame this time but it's comming along. Got the floor joists in for the sleeping loft and built the short wall around the loft. Sheathing and exterior walls are finaly finnished. Now the fun part starts.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on February 05, 2008, 08:46:57 PM
Question for you Scott; regarding the A/C over the fridge.

Is this for a regular window type A/C, but without an actual window? Curious because I haven't worked out the details for how I'm going to install a small A/C.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 06, 2008, 04:54:54 AM
Yes Don it will be a window unit with all the trim stripped off. I did the same thing in my workshop and it worked fine. The framed hole is larger than needed in case I need to replace the unit later and can't get one the same size or if I want to put in a larger unit. Most models have remote control now so easy access is not needed.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 06, 2008, 07:53:40 AM
We have done the same at our other place -- works great.

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Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 06, 2008, 08:48:02 AM
Makes for a much neater install IMO. Window units in windows look awful.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: daybreakhuntin on February 06, 2008, 09:27:49 AM
Is your wall studs on 16 or 24 centers, they look a little big for 16.  Also what did you use for your subfloor? What are you plan on doing with the concrete blocks, leave them as is or put somthing over them. I thought of covering them with field stone would give a nice rustic look.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 06, 2008, 01:18:04 PM
Scott did you get your round window? Went to the sale but on this date they didn't have any. They had the flex molding that goes around them. Someone bought some that I know just in case.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 06, 2008, 03:10:52 PM
Studs are on 24" centers, subfloor is 23/32" OSB. The house gets a wrap around deck that will hide the blocks on 3 sides. Deck will be supported with large stones. The blocks that remain un-hidden I may cover with stone as you suggested. Undecided at this point.

I didn't have time to look for the round window yet. It's not a high priority at the moment. More concerned with building the roof. I'm a one man show so my time is tight.  :P
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mvk on February 09, 2008, 02:57:59 PM
Scott

Wanted to take a minute to compliment you on your place you did a good job. But what I really think is that you nailed the floor plan and design, great job. Think my wife and me would kill each other in about a week in a place that size but I'm aware of all the advantages and again you really nailed it.

Are you going to do your barrel ceiling. How? Wood? I have played around with spruce/pine and fir over the years, spruce/pine on the flat and the fir on edge 3/4" revel, every 2nd or 3rd  or whatever board, gives you a little 3rd dimension  look. I thought it came out pretty nice and costumers liked it, didn't take much wood working skills so it was fairly cheap, but gave you a different look. Just a thought, one thing I learned is that you can love something and someone else can hate it.  I really  liked that scrape wood stair case that was posted and if it works out with the design, I do want to do some eyebrow dormers. 

Thanks again for the advice you usually have some good ideas,  among many others I want to add

Mike
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 09, 2008, 03:46:27 PM
Thanks alot Mike. I worked on tweaking this floor plan for several months including doing some mock ups to try out the space. Right now it looks like the barrel cieling will be done with T&G white pine but plywood has also been suggested. I'm also thinking of possibly using hardwood flooring. We're going to incorporate some sort of bent trim work on the cieling as well for a 3d effect. The whole thing is still in the design stage so we'll see. Like everything else on this project, when the right idea pops up we know it and run with it. My wife and I share a tiny office so we're used to being close.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on February 09, 2008, 06:31:52 PM
Scott you cabin is coming along nice! I have been following in the posts. I am dieing to start mine if this snow would just go away!! Mark
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 10, 2008, 06:31:34 PM
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Here is an example so you can get some idea what the barrel vault cieling will look like. We're hoping for a look very close to this. This will be in the sleeping loft area only. Framing is done by attaching plywood gusets, cut to the proper curve, to the framing. I think the radius will end up being 6'.
Peg will think I'm crazy for sure now.  d*
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 10, 2008, 06:44:03 PM
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In the main living area I'm going to build a three trusses similar to the ones in this picture. They will be installed after the roof is on so the only thing structural about them will be to function as collar ties. I'll use some temporary ties to hold the walls plumb until these are installed.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: daybreakhuntin on February 16, 2008, 01:14:48 PM
Did you go with 10 ft side walls???
When pouring your concrete footings, what size did you pour?
Is your floor frame PT ?

Keep up the good work...



I live in Clarksville, AR probably 4 hrs from your location.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: travcojim on February 16, 2008, 03:41:23 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but I grew up there in the Clarksville area, actually Knoxville.  I am building outside of Kingston. 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: daybreakhuntin on February 16, 2008, 04:01:41 PM
I grew up in the Scranton area and now live in Lamar, if I ever get a chance to build would hopefully by near the River
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 16, 2008, 06:58:59 PM
Side walls are framed with 9' precut studs (104 5/8").
Pier footings are aprox. 24x24x12" at the 4 corners and aprox. 20x20x12" on the other 11. Keep in mind these piers are sitting in clay/gravel which has a very strong bearing and is quite stable. In some of the holes I hit rock. The cabin is sitting on the crest of a narrow ridge so the soil is well drained. The bottom of the piers are about 18-24" below grade. The spoils from the holes where packed around the piers to increase the depth by about 4-6 more inches. The frost line here is less than 12"

The frame is not PT except in the veranda area.

Been a few days since an update...both lofts have been decked and the lumber for the roof is on site. Just waiting for a break in the rain to get going again.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: daybreakhuntin on February 16, 2008, 07:06:46 PM
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Foundation beams are done. Weather is still crappy for over a week now. Starting on the floor tomorrow weather permiting.

Scott

How did you attach the beams to the piers, do you have any close up pics of this???

I like this block and beam design and trying to learn as much as possible.

Thanks again
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 16, 2008, 07:57:28 PM
Each pier has a long 1/2" anchor bolt set into it which passes through the framing. I used several sizes of washers to step up to a large (1 1/2" o.d.) washer and tighted the works down against the pier. There is an asphalt shingle on the top of each pier between the wood and the concrete.

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You can kinda see the bolts in this pic. The beams are 3 boards wide everywhere else except this corner and the bolts come up in the center. Maybe not the perfect solution but it turned out pretty solid.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 18, 2008, 11:30:28 AM
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Started framing the roof today finaly  after a long delay.

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I built a temporary bridge between the lofts to construct the roof.

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No chemtrails today just bright blue sky.

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Another look at my bridge from the sleeping loft.

Now if the weather will just cooperate maybe I can get this thing done.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on February 18, 2008, 01:06:59 PM
Wow, you just started on the roof today?  I thought you were working alone?  I'm amazed at how quickly the whole thing has come up since the fall.  At the rate you're going, you'll have it dried in in no time at all.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 18, 2008, 01:33:04 PM
Looking real good Scott.  Make sure of your rafter spacing.  Nothing will tick you off more if the sheeting does not break right on them. 

Been working on the loft floor myself. 2X6"TG on 4X8" beams.  Think PT lumber is bad to warp and bow try prefinishing the T&G and leaving it for over a year.  Pipe clamps and joist pullers on almost each piece.  To top matters off I found out that a Bostich flooring nailer will not work on 2X only 3/4".  Solution found with using 3" deck screws in the tounge. 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 18, 2008, 07:02:33 PM
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Make sure of your rafter spacing.  Nothing will tick you off more if the sheeting does not break right on them.

I spent about an hour and a half this morning laying out the walls and ridge board before I put it up. Not sure how I managed it but the house somehow grew an inch longer than it was suposed to be. Maybe all the rain I'm not sure. Anyway I hope I have it worked out.

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Wow, you just started on the roof today?  I thought you were working alone?


Yep, I started at sunrise this morning and got to this point about 2:30 this afternoon. Had to quit and go do something else after that. Thought I was going to die putting that ridge board up. Took me a few minutes to get the courage up to stab it into the temporary holders. Rafters went up easy. Did those 6 in less than an hour.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 18, 2008, 08:55:40 PM
Looks good, Scott.  Did the sheathing add the extra inch? ???

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No chemtrails today just bright blue sky.
   >:(  You must have looked up. 

I was so ticked when I woke up this morning -camping out by a lake after prospecting until 2AM or so.

Here is our sky this morning - they did the x right above me..

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One of the culprits.

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These two raced and altered course to block the last remaining major patch of clear blue sky.

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Even with photo evidence , people fail to or refuse believe that that is what is going on.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 21, 2008, 04:15:27 AM
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Made a bit more progress yesterday. The rain is back again today.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 21, 2008, 04:49:50 AM
Starting to take shape well. :}
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: CWhite on February 21, 2008, 04:51:59 AM
What a great looking cabin.  Your round window and porch tucked in there are features that really make it's appearance unique and inviting.  I look forward to seeing more innovative ideas that you will incorporate.
Christina
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 21, 2008, 06:05:11 AM
Scott taking on the shape of a house now.  Won't be long and you will be out of the weather.  If you are putting on metal roof are you going with sheeting or purlins? Looks like you could use your tractor bucket and a ladder to install. Might do the sheeting as well that way after the first 4 feet.

I will ask a silly question. Did you double the rafter on the next to last one?  Are you going to install a false rafter for a overhang?  Just curious I guess.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on February 21, 2008, 07:42:35 AM
Yes, it's taking shape nicely, Scott!  I really like the log columns & the round window  gives a really nice, unique look!
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 21, 2008, 10:16:19 AM
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I will ask a silly question. Did you double the rafter on the next to last one?  Are you going to install a false rafter for a overhang?  Just curious I guess.

It's going to be a dutch gable. Yes the rafter is actualy trippled with a double 2x10 collar tie for the ledger for the hip portion that will hang off the end. The gable roof will then extend out to the end with one more rafter sitting on the hip roof forming a recess for the window. The last rafter will be a double 2x4 the others are 2x6 . The roof gets sheathing and 30 year comp shingles. I got the first hip rafter up and the first dutch common this morning but it's too wet to work any more today. I'll get a picture soon as it clears up so you can see whats going on.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 21, 2008, 11:46:50 AM
 d* Now I remember where I read that. Couldn't recall and had no way to go back to check when I sent the reply.  Are you getting conventional 3 tabs or architect shingles. I have them on my house and they are worth the extra$.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 21, 2008, 03:06:03 PM
I haven't picked out the shingles yet but I'm leaning towards something nice.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 21, 2008, 03:16:33 PM
Scott, you may not want to start with full blown shingles first.  How about a good case of the hives. hmm
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 21, 2008, 03:21:05 PM
Damn now I'm all itchy.  [shocked]
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 21, 2008, 05:21:53 PM
If you really wanted to get sick then think about cedar shakes. Last price I heard was $270 a sq. And how many squares did you need?
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 21, 2008, 07:42:05 PM
You are talking about the bargin shopper of all time Red. I've only got $3300 in this whole project so far. No way I'm paying $270 a sq. for shingles. BTW 10 sq. should do it.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 21, 2008, 07:47:48 PM
I sort of figured that. Just wanted you to feel better after Glenn gave you those hives.  Just wondering if price was the reason for the shingles instead of metal.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 21, 2008, 07:55:20 PM
No not really. I could probly do metal for not much more than shingles. Personaly I don't care that much for the look of it and every body and his second cousin is using metal these days. To me shingles look more home like if that makes sense. If I wasn't so cheap I'd put slate or copper shingles.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 24, 2008, 01:02:19 PM
Took a new batch of pics today. Making progress on the roof framing. Got the temporary staging removed and all the nails pulled. Weather is still cold and gloomy but atleast it didn't rain today.  :P

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Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 24, 2008, 03:02:54 PM
Looks more like home each time I see the new pics.  Good job .
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 05, 2008, 03:20:08 PM
Just about to finnish up the roof framing. Got most of the blocking done today and I'm hoping to start sheathing tomorrow weather permitting.

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Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on March 05, 2008, 04:32:22 PM
I think that sheltered porch tucked under the wrap around roof is going to look real classy.  :D [cool]
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mvk on March 05, 2008, 05:15:25 PM
Scott
I second what John said, I had commented on how great I thought your floor plan was and I think that you did a really great job on the roof also. Yeah Classy!
Congratulations Mike
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on March 05, 2008, 07:23:55 PM
Nice way your finishing your roof! Won't be hard to sheet it off now. How are you going to vent the upper area/roof? Mark
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 06, 2008, 04:15:13 AM
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Nice way your finishing your roof! Won't be hard to sheet it off now. How are you going to vent the upper area/roof? Mark

Sealed cathedral ceiling (foam filled). No vents.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on March 06, 2008, 05:31:14 AM
A full foamed in place insulation system for a cathedral ceiling is more expensive but it allows for much simpler framing and is very energy efficient.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 06, 2008, 07:41:48 AM
I read alot of conflicting information on venting of cathedral cielings. Some feel that venting can cause as many problems as it solves. My feeling is that a sealed cieling is less likely to have moisture problems than a vented one. Shingle manufacturers will warrantly shingles on a sealed cathedral cieling. Also studies have shown that roof color has more to do with surface tempatures than venting.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on March 06, 2008, 07:57:54 AM
I read alot of conflicting information on venting of cathedral cielings. Some feel that venting can cause as many problems as it solves. My feeling is that a sealed cieling is less likely to have moisture problems than a vented one. Shingle manufacturers will warrantly shingles on a sealed cathedral cieling. Also studies have shown that roof color has more to do with surface tempatures than venting.
I have 2 buildings that are only vented on the ridge cap. The buildings are not insulated and are 18X28 one story and 26 X 36 barn with one haft 2 story. I do not heat the buildings so there is little tempture change in them. The roofs are metal with plywood & tar paper under the metal. Both can be sealed off from the weather and the 2 story one is all the time but not my shop it has the garage door open 95% of the time. I have never had any mold, moisture ect problems in 12 years. I did have to plug off the ridge in the 2 story part due to snow blowing in it but left 2 small cavitys open to let a little air thru. I can't get away with this on my cabin it is being inspected but till it is finished it will sorta be the same with out insulation on the ceiling. The difference will be the screened eves on the sides. Mark 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 06, 2008, 03:28:15 PM
I do not heat the buildings so there is little tempture change in them. The roofs are metal with plywood & tar paper under the metal. Both can be sealed off from the weather and the 2 story one is all the time but not my shop it has the garage door open 95% of the time. I have never had any mold, moisture ect problems in 12 years. 

Mark that is the key. No heat then usually no moisture as the outside temps are the same as the inside or very little difference.  The mold and the like start with the moisture,
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 06, 2008, 04:14:50 PM
You know if I didn't heat I wouldn't need insulation.  ???
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on March 06, 2008, 05:09:20 PM
You know if I didn't heat I wouldn't need insulation.  ???
Yes but you need some insulation R-Factor under the metal to keep it from sweating and dripping inside the building. That is what my plywood and tar paper does it has a little R-Factor of insulation to stop this. So realy it is insulated a little not just R-38 like they want my cabin to be I am building. The inside of the building is warmer than outside when the sun hits the building, it warms up inside alot compaired to the outside air even in the winter. So condinsation can happen under the metal and the little R-Factor keeps the metal more constantly the same temp on both sides and will shed away any moisture that may happen. Mark
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 07, 2008, 12:20:21 PM
Scott I had my thinking cap off last night when we were talking about sheeting.  I don't know if you are planning on using "ice guard" on the eves of your cabin or not. To me that is a no brainer.  I usually use one run along the bottom edge then felt above that. 

I would also use it on the intersection of your "hip roof" and wall below the window in addition to flashing running out on top of that.  I don't remember how steep your 'Hip roof" was but it is cheap insurance to prevent ice/water backing up. If you haven't be sure that it is "ice" and not "storm" gueard. Ice as the rubber quality. Both self stick but the rubber will self heal your nails.

Hope you got alot done today with your sheeting.  Is it square?
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 07, 2008, 03:14:56 PM
John belive it or not I got the first sheet on crooked. Despite my best effort I screwed it up. But I got things corrected after that. I only managed to get 5 sheets up before the snow hit though. I don't know if you can even buy Ice shield around here. I've never seen it used on a house around here. We have so little real snowfall, maybe 3-6" a year on average and a random 12-18" of snow ever 10 years or so. We've had less than 3" total this winter that stuck. I'll check with the roofing supplier and see what they have anyway since that sounds like a good idea.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on March 07, 2008, 04:24:28 PM
John belive it or not I got the first sheet on crooked. Despite my best effort I screwed it up. But I got things corrected after that. I only managed to get 5 sheets up before the snow hit though. I don't know if you can even buy Ice shield around here. I've never seen it used on a house around here. We have so little real snowfall, maybe 3-6" a year on average and a random 12-18" of snow ever 10 years or so. We've had less than 3" total this winter that stuck. I'll check with the roofing supplier and see what they have anyway since that sounds like a good idea.
Scott on that first sheet put one nail it the center of the top or bottom edge and then line it up. You can rock it into place real easy to make it square. Mark
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 07, 2008, 04:42:12 PM
You make it sound easy Mark. But somehow when I'm trying to balance a sheet of wood, hold a hammer and a nail, keep from falling off the scafold and get the wood on straight something went wrong.  d* But I did NOT fall off the roof, as instructed by my wife.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on March 07, 2008, 05:04:21 PM
You make it sound easy Mark. But somehow when I'm trying to balance a sheet of wood, hold a hammer and a nail, keep from falling off the scafold and get the wood on straight something went wrong.  d* But I did NOT fall off the roof, as instructed by my wife.
OK you got me but if you screw two spaced out blocks of wood on the eve edge and start a nail in the sheet first you can slip the plywood up on the roof let it slide down to the blocks then tack the nail in. With the blocks holding the sheet lower than it needs to be you just line up the spot where the nail is right and nail it. Level the plywood perfict and nail it off. Then the rest of them go easy after that. By the time you get done with your roof you will have all kinds of ways to do it better. To bad we figure out all the easy ways by the end of the job! Mark
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mvk on March 08, 2008, 04:54:12 AM
Scott
I used to snap a line for the first sheet taking into acount the thickness of the trim say 47". Then I would put 2 nails on the line at 2nd rafter and 5th to set my first sheet.  these nails are stops so they should be tapped in enough so the wont move when you slide the first sheet up to them. I then slide the first sheet of sheathing up to the stops holding the middle of the sheet with my legs lean over and check that the ends are where I want them and tack it. then I can check both ends and if it looks good nail it off, the nails also act as spacer's when you put the sheets on above. I then repeat the process across the eve till the end. Once you set and nail off the first row you can nail a 2x4 along the edge to stand on. On the upper part above the hip I would just tack the rake and straighten when all the ply was on with a string or someone with a good eye on the ground.
Mike
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 10, 2008, 12:41:23 PM
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I'm not dead yet. Just a little slow. Got the first row of sheathing all the way around and finnished this side. Got the end rafters up on this end also.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on March 10, 2008, 12:57:07 PM
Looks good! You picked a hard roof to sheet off with the angles and hips. It will also be fun to shingle to up under those overhangs along with the hips meeting the courses all even going around the roof. Be sure to roof it on a warm day as the shingles will shape better on the hips. If not you can use a heat gun to make them lay down nice and not crack. Mark
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 10, 2008, 01:06:46 PM
I am notorious for not doing things the easy way. Always have to be the one who is different. I figure this dutch gable roof took double the work a regular gable roof would have taken.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on March 10, 2008, 04:33:56 PM
Well, Scott it may be more difficult but it'll look very  [cool]

I wouldn't don't have the ambition to tackle it even though I love the look.  :-[
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 12, 2008, 01:58:04 PM
Got my shingles today and the style D roof edging Peg recomended. I ended up getting Tamko Elite Glass-Seal AR 3 tab shingles. I looked at the fancy shingles but thought they might be beyond my ability to install. These are the best 3 tabs available. Also got the cedar for the facia. Cedar is hell of expensive these days. Ouch. The good news is the shingles where way under budget. I had no idea they where so cheap. The delivery guys got lost 3 times then showed up and unloaded the wrong shingles before I got around to check the order. They had to load them back up and go get the right shingles. Poor guys, those shingles are heavy. Anyways things are starting to move along I just hope I don't poop out before I get dried in. Oh and the big news for the day is I talked to the guy from the power company and he said since the house is almost dried in they will now come put in my power. Duh!  :P
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 14, 2008, 02:11:30 PM
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Roof decking progress pics. I have a new found respect for the guys who do this for a living. Not for the faint of heart.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 14, 2008, 02:20:28 PM
Scott looking good though. You are fancier than me. I just nailed 2X4 with 16d to work off of.  If you have an extra set of roof jacks it makes it easier to relocate them without giving up your footing.  The shingles will be another thing alltogether though and you will need the jacks for that. 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 14, 2008, 02:43:48 PM
The $100 I spent on roof jacks and walk planks was money well spent. No way I'd do this off a 2x4. I bought 6 12/12 jacks and 3 2x10x10' select structural planks.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 14, 2008, 04:40:22 PM
Scott mine was only 10/12 but once I got confortable no problem.  I also started my Titaninum felt from the top and slipped the next course under the first and made my way to the eve.  That was because I went for a long period of time before the roofing was installed and I didn't want any nailholes to leak over the time period.  Then with the roofing I used tin so the jacks were useless in that application. Believe it or not a 10' 2X4 with 3-4 16d in the rafter was very substantial.  You are exerting pressure in the opposite direction that the nails would lift up. It was also easy to change it's location by just a clawhammer to pull them up and  drive them back to the surface and nail again. But the planks would give you a little more security.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 17, 2008, 04:50:51 AM
Rainy day today so I'm stuck at home. A few factoids for those planning to build. It took me right at 3 months to frame this working part time mostly alone. I had help maybe 5 days total. I'd estimate I worked 20-30 hours a week. Doesn't sound like much but when you factor in my regular work it makes for some very long days and no time off to rest. This is without the aid of nail guns, hand drove every nail. I've spent $4150 to date and that includes the shingles, felt, roof edging and cedar trim for the roof which are on site but not installed yet. I still have some interior walls to build and the sofits need to be framed yet before the framing will be complete. Alot more work than I thought going into this deal. Scary part is I'm thinking another year to finnish this project. We'll see. My total budget is $15k not counting the land. So far I'm right on budget.

Scott
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on March 17, 2008, 06:14:00 AM
I have to say that I couldn't have imagined building my home without a nailgun.  I admire your will.  I usually sit behind a desk and click a mouse.  When I hammer by hand, I am sooooo sore the next few days.  Your arms must look like Popeye..  :)
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 17, 2008, 07:54:16 AM
Thanks for posting facts and figures, Scott.  If not documented here, a lot of this stuff is never known or lost later.  Useful to those who don't know, are planning , or even to ourselves at a later date. 

Un-clutters the long term memory -- if you still have one. [crz]
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on March 20, 2008, 12:13:03 PM
Scott, thanks for posting the costs and the budget you are running with.  As we're looking for land and so forth, it is nice to have an idea of what it cost someone else locally to build, both in time spent and in money.  Your house is beautiful so far, and very well thought-out.  I'll be so glad to see the finished product.   :)  Bet you will too!  Working 20-30 hours a week in addition to your day job is nothing to sneeze at, by any means, and you probably picked the hardest time of year to do it, too.  I hope you're not up on that roof today as the wind is really blowing and going out there!  Sounds like you did a thorough job of planning your costs and everything.  I want to do that, as well, and not be caught off guard and end up off schedule because we had to wait for something we thought we could do right away.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 20, 2008, 03:58:31 PM
Glad to help Homegrown. Thats the kind of info I was looking for when I was planning but couldn't find anywhere. I picked winter to start this because as anyone in construction knows this is the slowest time of the year. No way I could build this in the summer, too busy and too hot to work 12 hour days.

I finnished the roof trim today and got the style D roof edging installed along the eaves. More metal goes on the rakes later on. I start shingles tomorrow. The schedule has been cleared so I can work on the roof full time until it's done. The wife says no more rain is allowed in the house.


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Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 20, 2008, 04:54:09 PM
Great Scott [shocked]  I mean Great, Scott.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on March 25, 2008, 05:01:53 AM
Well, Scott, I'm hoping you didn't blow off the roof the last few days!
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 25, 2008, 08:29:30 AM
Hanging on by my fingernails. Sure makes it hard to get the felt on flat. I picked up my plumbing flashings and the chimney for the wood stove today.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 25, 2008, 08:37:45 AM
I was wondering what you wanted to get on a felt hat for.  Damn reading glasses and dyslexia --- not a good combination. [crz]
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 25, 2008, 08:41:12 AM
And I picked up a new pair of reading glasses.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 25, 2008, 11:14:06 AM
Not sure whether you have a "Big Lots" store in your area but they are my best friend when it comes to glasses. I usually buy a couple pair at the price of drug store glasses and leave a pair everywhere I think I will be in the shop and house. If I had to have one pair they would be lost in a minute and I would be fumbling hitting my fingers or something.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 25, 2008, 01:03:11 PM
No "Big Lots" around here. The nearest Wal-Mart is 15 miles away. That's where I usualy go since theres not much else close. We are pretty far out in the sticks here. I usually keep 2 pair of glasses. One I carry with me and another back up pair in my desk. 
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 25, 2008, 02:37:12 PM
Shoot you are almost in town. My closest Wal-Mart is 48 miles away.  I usually make a list of things I need and make it every two weeks or so.  But if I am going to go shopping I usually go further where there is more selection.  Someone told me once that the Walmart Plan was to have a store within 30 miles of each other.  Don't really look for it here as the county of 912 sq miles and a population of 9,000.  Well it might employ the majority of the elgible workforce though.  Might try Dollar General or Family Dollar.  They are usually cheaper.  There is a chain or discount stores called Gabriels and usually pick them up for $2 pair.
Title: Re: 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on March 25, 2008, 03:48:50 PM
My closest Wal-Mart is 48 miles away... ...Someone told me once that the Walmart Plan was to have a store within 30 miles of each other. 
In town I have my choice of 5 Wal-Marts (4 of them Supercenters, 1 Neighborhood Market) within 10 miles!; 2 M west (the one we usually use), 6 M south, 10 M north, 6 M SW, 10 M south.

From the mountains, it's another story... 60 miles S or 45 mile NE, both Supercenters
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 28, 2008, 11:57:31 AM
I'm still roofing. I'd be outa luck if I had to shingle for a living. 3 squares left to go out of 10. I updated the thread title to the name of our property. My grandmother named the place about 40 years ago when she saw a some deer running through the woods soon after they bought it. She had a habit of naming all their properties. At one time my grandparents owned over 2000 acres in this area. All that's left of that is 6 acres I own and 200 owned by my mother.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 05, 2008, 12:26:21 PM
Finnished up the shingles today after many difficulties. If you are building don't get the idea to shingle your own roof if it's 12/12 pitch. Hire a roofer. Trust me I know these things.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 05, 2008, 01:28:04 PM
Oh we learn so much to beat the dollar.  I guess we can now call on you as one of our resident experts on roofing. Feels good though doesn't it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 05, 2008, 01:53:08 PM
So true. I figure I made about $8 an hour on this roof. Feels great to be dry. My wife is jumping up and down and wants to move in.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 05, 2008, 09:42:23 PM
Good job, Scott -- don't think about the low wages -- add the value of the education you received.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 07, 2008, 03:38:08 PM
Indeed Glen, I learned alot. I supose if someone is as determined as me and has the time they might want to tackle roofing.

Google Earth shot of the building location.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on April 15, 2008, 05:54:55 AM
So, what's next, Scott?  The weather is drying out nicely and is warm again, so I'm looking forward to your updates.  (Windy as heck today, though... glad you're not still on the roof.)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on April 15, 2008, 10:22:38 AM
Scott, I have to ask why the sat view is "upside down"?   ???  (North down.)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 15, 2008, 11:36:14 AM
I don't know Don. I was playing around with it, spinning it around etc. and thats how it ended up when I took the screenshot. I didn't plan it that way. lol  d*

I just finnished framing the sofits and some other misc. framing I had left undone in my rush to build the roof. Currently working on the cedar battens that will hold the siding away from the exterior walls. I'm planning to felt the south wall tomorrow and put up the battens. Should be interesting to see how this rainscreen system holds up. I'm currently calling it the rainscreen experiment. That way if it fails in less than 50 years I have an excuse.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: BiggKidd on April 15, 2008, 02:58:10 PM
Scott

That way if it fails in less than 50 years I have an excuse.  

I think evrything I do is an experiment. :)

Larry
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 16, 2008, 11:44:37 AM
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I got the felt and battens on the south side today. Kind of a trial run to see how it worked. There is an 8" strip of galvanized metal along the bottom edge. You can see whats left of the roll sitting in the doorway. Over that is 2 layers of #30 felt paper. The battens are 1x2" cedar that have been treated with oil stain on all sides. These will provide a 3/4" air space between the siding and the felt. I'll add a few more pieces after the door is in. I went ahead and put these up to help hold the paper on.

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You can see the soffit framing I finnished up a couple of days ago in this shot.

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View from the veranda. Spring in Oklahoma and the dogwoods are in bloom.

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Line of the sun at 3:30 this afternoon. A couple more weeks and this line should be outside. The roof overhangs are working as planned.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on April 16, 2008, 11:54:05 AM
Sun line looks good. Are you doing low-e glass in the windows and doors? They'll be a perfect "fit" with the direct warm weather sun being shielded from hitting them directly.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 16, 2008, 12:18:46 PM
Scott get your window yet. Going to a 2 day auction this weekend. Want me to PU one. Maybe you said before but what type of siding are you going to use. Harde plank?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 16, 2008, 12:33:30 PM
Don I'll have to double check but I belive the windows and doors are low-e double pane glass.


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Siding will look pretty much exactly like this picture John. Lots of over priced stained cedar. If you find a good deal on the window grab it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on April 16, 2008, 12:53:46 PM
If they are low-e glass that gives you the benefit of the radiant heat from outside (sunlight reflected off the ground up at the windows, for example) being reflected back outside by the low-e coating.

Similarly in the winter radiant heat energy from inside will bounce back. In winter the sun's direct rays striking the glass would be passed through allowing some heat gain.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 26, 2008, 07:54:20 PM
Decided to take a few days away from pounding nails. Thought since the weather was so nice I'd spend some time working on beating back the woods a bit before the hot weather sets in. We cleared all the undergrowth back about 20-30' from the cabin in all directions. Burned most of the brush and deadfalls today to get rid of any fuel sources close by. My son and I also started digging out the stones I'll use to support the outer edge of the wrap around deck and moved them near where they go.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 28, 2008, 03:11:29 PM
Took a few pics today. Not alot of progress but still creeping along. I needed a break after framing and roofing.

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This is entry to the cabin from the hiway. I Started putting down gravel for the drive. Thats the glare from the rocks. I got 7 tons of washed creek gravel to spead on the drive and around the cabin for walk paths. It looks great in the forest enviroment.

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Got all the felt on the lower walls. Also built the bump out for the kitchen window.

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Laid out the stones for the rest of the deck. Deck is the next project. I need to get it done so the wood can weather all summer and be ready for stain by fall.

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We built a small fire pit SE of the veranda. It works really well. I've been burning dead branches that we cleaned up around the cabin.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on May 28, 2008, 03:22:32 PM
Boy it is sure green around your cabin. Gonna be a lot of leaves to rake in the fall! I am not used to that much geen here in Eastern Washington. Looks good but you better get pounding on those nails winter is around the corner(5 months and snow for us again) even tho summer is not here yet? Mark
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 28, 2008, 03:31:46 PM
I've been dealing with leaves for years, our current place is just as bad. I'll get handle on it by fall. The plan is to have the exterior 100% complete by October. I don't see any problem doing it by then.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 28, 2008, 03:42:50 PM
Looks great, Scott.  Nice beginning of a rain screen wall.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 28, 2008, 04:55:00 PM
Looking good Scott.  But as they say " no rest for the weary". I hate to get bogged down on one phase but that usually happens.  I did get the platform built on the roof to finish the stone on the top of the chimney yesterday.  Was going to parge but it was intermitent rain showers and I didn't want to get stuck up there in a downpour with a whole bunch of mortar mixed up.  I did get it today in the afternoon after the rain as well as some of the grout on the inside while it rained this morning.  Using a grout bag I know what a pastry chef feels like now.  RPIA. And I am just beginning.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on May 28, 2008, 07:51:25 PM
Scott, looks really pretty there - I really like what you are doing with the cabin - that deck will really give you lots of extra room, too.  I like the felt better that the house wrap - after seeing how fast the house wrap breaks down & other problems with it, I wouldn't want to use it but it's all the rage. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 29, 2008, 03:47:09 AM
Thanks. I never liked house wrap either. I think it's one of those products that marketing made popular. Felt is time tested and proven to work. Yes it crinkles a little when it gets wet but it keeps the water out.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 29, 2008, 07:26:20 AM
Many houses have mold problems - many houses and apartments torn down due to house wrap.  Never heard of one with felt.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on May 29, 2008, 07:43:41 AM
Thanks. I never liked house wrap either. I think it's one of those products that marketing made popular. Felt is time tested and proven to work. Yes it crinkles a little when it gets wet but it keeps the water out.
I may be wrong here but the way it was explained to me felt does not breath but keeps water out. The house wrap will let air thru to breath but not the water molicules(air molicules are smaller then water). I have had the house wrap on my place for 13 years so far and I can see it on the attic end walls. It has not broke down, no moisture problems, no mold ect. I see no mold on walls on my home, no problem heating the home with 3 1/2 cords a year. I have no moisture problems inside my house. Some of the problems with house wrap may be that it was exposed to the weather/sun to long before cover? I do know that even 30 lb felt will wrinkel up, shrink back and pull off the stapples and lose it petrolium base in the sun real quick! The 30 lb felt I put down on my cabin roof went to crap in just a couple weeks before I had a chance to put the metal over it. It pulled loose from the stapples, wrinkled up and tore because it shrunk and pulled off the stapples all over the areas exposed to the sun. Mark

This is a interesting artical that tested different products and gives reasons why some work and some do. This is not testing done by the manufacture but indipendent. Good reading!
http://www.umass.edu/bmatwt/publications/articles/housewraps_feltpaper_weather_penetration_barriers.html
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 29, 2008, 10:38:06 AM
That's a good artical Mark. They seem to feel felt and house wrap are both effective. When I was researching rain screen walls the one thing I noticed repeatedly being stressed was that the drainage plane be as air tight as possible. This is best accomplished by starting with solid ridged sheathing which will block airflow. This should be covered with a non permiable  waterproofing. There are some specialty products designed just for rain screens but they are expensive and not readily available. Based on what I had read I decided #30 felt was the most cost effective option. 2 layers where recomended saying the performance was better and less likely to leak around fasteners. Also the inner layer is protected so it's unlikely to deteriorate even with prolonged exposure to the sun. I don't have much of an issue with the sun anyway since my site is very shady and the overhangs shade the walls most of the day.

I could not find any one solid source for rainscreen info but they have been used for many decades in europe with a felt and batten method similar to what I'm using. I'm of the opinion that wood will last longest if it can breath so keeping the siding away from the inner wall makes alot of sense to me. There are lots of methods for making rainscreen walls. The one I'm doing is called an open joint rainscreen. The siding will actually have gaps between the boards rather than fitting tightly together. To my mind this will encourage rapid drying after rains. So what if some water gets passed the siding it will just drain out the bottom.

As for the wall itself I'm hoping to keep moisture out of the wall completly by having vapor barriers on both sides and making sure it's dry when it's closed up. Maybe more info than anyone wanted to read but I wanted to share my thinking on the matter. I think the advantage of house wrap is that it will allow a wall to dry out even if closed up wet as is common in production new construction. If you have the time to let the frame dry out before closing the wall I doubt it has any advantage over felt.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 29, 2008, 12:13:43 PM
Scott I often wondered about two other products.  One of which I am not sure but it has proved to be superior in the roof underlayment and that is Titaninum Felt.  IMO this is far better than felt for the roof with extended uncovered exposure of 12-18 months.  Mine was on for about 6 months and never a hint of failure.  It has the UV protection.  But it should be installed with button nails vs. roofing or staples.

The other which might be cost prohibitive would be the ice guard or storm guard.  The ice guard is far more superior IMO but it is self healing so that any pentetration by nails would not be a problem.  The ease of installation would also be good that it is self adhesive until you can permanently attach with nails.

When I did my addition I used a product by Styrofoam which appeared to be far better than convientional house wrap.  About 3-4 times the thickness and was more flexible.  Yes it was more expensive  about $150 a roll for 9' but a solid builder swore by it's performance.  I don't know exactly the name and wouldn't tear my siding off to get it but it's blue in color and is sort of foam backed product.

Just thought I would throw this out if someone wanted to invest a little more than usual.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 29, 2008, 06:57:32 PM
The wrinkling of the felt is one thing that causes it to drain water away.  If it is wet for an extended period of time then it turns into a wick and wicks the moisture away.  When it is gone  it dries out and goes back to it's old wrinkly self.  This is great if there happens to be an unexpected leak.

House wraps will vent vapor but if improperly installed or punctured and water gets through, then there is no way for it to get out and that seems to be the main source of problems.

Surfactants - soap - pressure washing- oil - dirt - cedar and  redwood natural oils can all cause failure of the house wrap chemicals allowing penetration of water.

If you do use housewrap, then the screenwall as Scott is doing will allow drainage and help keep the water from being forced into it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mvk on May 30, 2008, 08:20:24 AM
Scott

Quote
As for the wall itself I'm hoping to keep moisture out of the wall completly by having vapor barriers on both sides and making sure it's dry when it's closed up.

What's your outer vapor barrier the felt? I thought that that wasn't a vapor barrier and that's why it worked so well? I'm not trying to split hairs here just want to know. You can't give to much info as far as I'm concerned and as I've said before.

Also I thought that you shouldn't have a inner and outer vapor barrier? I've always thought that they were to hard to do 100% and that's where you got in trouble?

Mike

PS anybody else ever try to put on that grace water shield on a hot sunny day with a good wind by their selves >:(. talk about a tar baby :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 30, 2008, 09:22:42 AM
Felt is a vapor barrier to a degree but like all things it's not absolute. Water can soak through it and evaporate on the opposite side. The wetter it is the more it lets pass. But this happens very slowly. Thats how it keeps the rain out. As for not having an inner and an outer barrier I've seen it argued both ways. I'll let you know how it works out in a few years. LOL
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mvk on May 30, 2008, 01:09:59 PM
thanks scott
Hopefully a few years will be to late :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 14, 2008, 12:56:44 PM
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Got started on the deck framing this week. I also put  hurricane ties inside on the rafters at the plates. Work's been busy so building progress is slow. I'm hoping to get more done next week. Lots to get done before winter.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 17, 2008, 01:57:11 PM
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More deck progress pics. Yes that is plumbing pipe inside the front door. Did I mention I hate plumbing?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 17, 2008, 02:43:40 PM
Like your deck supports outside the front door.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 17, 2008, 08:09:48 PM
Scott, how can you hate plumbing?  Your daddy make you do it?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 18, 2008, 04:12:46 AM
After 25 years it gets old Glen.  d* You could say it's dad's fault since he didn't leave me millions in a trust fund. That's ok though I didn't leave my kids millions either.  [slap]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 18, 2008, 09:23:39 AM
I guess I can understand that -- and the pipes -- so brain intensive making sure all the right stuff goes to all the right places and all...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 18, 2008, 03:10:08 PM
It's all good, I'm getting out in about 2 years or less anyways. I'm already picking and choosing what jobs I do. This cabin is my ticket to freedom.

My brother has been comming by the cabin a lot lately and looking things over. Well yesterday he comes with a sketch of a house he wants to build. Is construction contagious? I told him to check out some of John's plans before he commits to anything. He has helped me exactly 0 hours on this job so far. How much you want to bet he wants my help come time to build his?  d* And I'm just sucker enough to do it is the sad part.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 18, 2008, 06:37:13 PM
I've been doing the same - picking jobs.

The illegals are coming in here - welding for $10 or so per hour.  Knocking the bottom out of the business - then the guy they are working for doesn't have a clue on pricing so he is bidding major jobs at as little as 1/3 of the going rate.  I heard he ate one big and started raising his price some, so either he will come up to a competitive price to stay in business or go broke. 

Unfortunately I don't think he will get to any standard reasonable pricing system, as he doesn't know what he is doing -- just pulls numbers out of his hat -- or possibly someplace a couple feet lower, so I will stay home rather than try to beat him.  He can't go on forever but he believes turning over large amounts of money and massive quantities of work is a good substitute for making a profit.

I confirmed that that was what is happening with a project manager for a big steel co. so it isn't just me, which is some satisfaction, in fact he brought their name up.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 18, 2008, 07:10:58 PM
I see the same sort of things Glen. Another one I run into alot is the change order contractors. They will underbid a job on purpose because they can see things that are wrong on the plans and they know they will be able to charge for them later on a change order. Usually the change order rates are 1000% or more higher than the bid rates. So they bid the job way low and wait for the greed to kick in then they stick it to the general contractor and the owner.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 18, 2008, 07:37:15 PM
I was on a job with one of them doing concrete -- gave us permission to drive over his rebar to get the\access our contract required, borrowed our equipment - reach lift etc. often - didn't bring hi own equipment - then back charged us, the general and another a combined $5000 to repair after he did it and never allowed us the option to fix the $200 or so worth of bent bars.

I advertise for him whenever I can.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 19, 2008, 03:15:31 PM
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Progressing with the deck. I'm enjoying this work quite a bit. Not too fancy but it's quite solid under foot. Very nice to walk on. I dug the rock out of a nearby dry creek bed. Framing is 2x6 decking is 2x8. All pressure treated and nailed with 16d hot dipped galvanized and zmax hangers. The lumber is very wet still.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on June 19, 2008, 06:00:26 PM
Nice deck details - practical and handsome.  ;)

This place is getting to have a kind of Zen feel to it. (Whatever that is?)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 19, 2008, 06:34:49 PM
Thanks John. I'm shooting for harmony with the site. Thats kinda like zen I guess.  ???
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on June 19, 2008, 09:35:58 PM
Yes, it really is looking good  8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 19, 2008, 10:28:43 PM
Now were getting into zen, eh?  I'll be sure to not let my karma run over your dogma.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on June 20, 2008, 05:40:20 AM
I'm rereading "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zen_and_the_Art_of_Motorcycle_Maintenance)"

It has a very powerful philosophical message about "quality" or aesthetic choices. This is especially important to me as I've always rebelled against the egotistical, taste-maker, I-know-better-than-you attitude of my architectural education. Yet none of us can build anything without it having a sense of style or quality.

You can't NOT have a style. The grunge rock movement found this out. Wearing old grubby clothes and not attending to personal hygiene was just as much a style as the blow-dried hair and bell-bottoms that had preceded it.

The zen of quality is elusive but, in building, it has something to do with an unself-centered attention and appreciation of the materials and the setting in which we build.

Maybe I'll be able to come up with a better understanding and statement of that when I finish the book. ;)

At any rate, Scott is onto something here and it has something to do with a certain quality...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: gandalfthegrey on June 20, 2008, 05:41:53 AM
And plese don't let your feng   shui    [slap]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 20, 2008, 06:20:42 AM
Somehow the rocks supporting the deck do seem very appropriate. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on June 20, 2008, 07:25:13 AM
I really like the wall treatment. I know it is temporary and meant to be a rain screen for the siding.

Yet, it has its own finished look and is an honest practical solution.

Consider:
• It is quick, easy and inexpensive to put up 15# or 30# building felt over the structural sheathing.
• Vertical battens protect this new "siding" from it's main enemy, wind.
• Battens provide the standoff for drainage behind future upgrades to the siding.
• Should it take 10 years to get around to the upgrade, battens can be pulled and fresh felt redone with little extra expense or work.

This could be the lazy man's zen siding. :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 20, 2008, 07:53:00 AM
I wonder if it would hold a good coat of paint?

Scott would be almost done.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 20, 2008, 08:48:29 AM
Interesting comments. Glen my wife insists I finish the siding so painting the felt is out. During the design process I looked at thousands of house photos online of nearly every style. The final design has a strong Japanese influence but it also has some northern Europe influences as well. The basic structure shell is really just a modified Victorias cottage without the wing added. It looked easy to build and efficent use of materials. But I also want a sort of holiday home look as well. Like going on some sort of permanent vacation. In the end its just a cabin but one with a slightly unusual and I hope interesting style. Thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on June 20, 2008, 09:09:09 AM
Interesting comments. Glen my wife insists I finish the siding so painting the felt is out. During the design process I looked at thousands of house photos online of nearly every style. The final design has a strong Japanese influence but it also has some northern Europe influences as well. The basic structure shell is really just a modified Victorias cottage without the wing added. It looked easy to build and efficent use of materials. But I also want a sort of holiday home look as well. Like going on some sort of permanent vacation. In the end its just a cabin but one with a slightly unusual and I hope interesting style. Thanks for the kind words.

Scott I noticed you are not siding behind the decking material? Are you going to pull up the decking when you side or leave it that way? Not being picky but tring to figure how you are going to weather in the wall along the edge of the deck behind the wood joists, beams and deck boards. Maybe it is just the angle of the camera taking the picture and the deck is below the felt? Mark
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 20, 2008, 11:25:30 AM
I think I understand your question. The felt goes all the way down the wall to about 1" below the deck. There is a layer of 8" wide galvanized metal and 2 layers of #30 felt there. If that won't weather it in nothing will. The deck wood will shield the felt from the sun. Siding does not weather proof the wall the felt does. The deck is actually below the wall and floor and is attached to the foundation beams of the house. Siding will start at the top of the deck. The deck boards are spaced away from the house 3/4" to allow water to drain out below.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 20, 2008, 01:47:23 PM
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Another pic. Can you tell I'm having fun with this deck? If you look by the tree in the foreground you can see the Oklahoma shaped rock I found when I was digging out the deck stones. Cost to date just passed $5k this week.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on June 20, 2008, 02:06:51 PM
I think I understand your question. The felt goes all the way down the wall to about 1" below the deck. There is a layer of 8" wide galvanized metal and 2 layers of #30 felt there. If that won't weather it in nothing will. The deck wood will shield the felt from the sun. Siding does not weather proof the wall the felt does. The deck is actually below the wall and floor and is attached to the foundation beams of the house. Siding will start at the top of the deck. The deck boards are spaced away from the house 3/4" to allow water to drain out below.
OK I see what your doing now. I thought the felt was on the wall and the deck was also up the wall some. Is that 5K for the total project or just the deck part? Mark
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 20, 2008, 02:28:10 PM
That's total cost of building materials for everything. I've spent about $600 on the deck so far. I haven't included fuel yet which I guess I should but I doubt it's over a couple of hundred since I try to buy lumber on my regular trips to town. The cabin is only a 1/4 mile from my house so not much fuel use there.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on June 20, 2008, 03:11:07 PM
That's total cost of building materials for everything. I've spent about $600 on the deck so far. I haven't included fuel yet which I guess I should but I doubt it's over a couple of hundred since I try to buy lumber on my regular trips to town. The cabin is only a 1/4 mile from my house so not much fuel use there.
Well mine is around 165 miles round trip and that 1 ton only gets 10 MPG down hill! You got some good prices on your wood!!!! The next one I build I am going to design it myself to make maxium use of the wood to cut down on waste just to split up roofs ect. That Rhino Decking is big bucks for a deck next time it will be wood and low to the ground. Mark
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: apaknad on June 21, 2008, 02:57:13 AM
hi scott,

 nice job so far. i would love to see a price list on your building materials as the cost so far seems very reasonable and can maybe help others to keep costs down (read me ;D).
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on June 21, 2008, 05:43:41 AM
That's total cost of building materials for everything. I've spent about $600 on the deck so far. I haven't included fuel yet which I guess I should but I doubt it's over a couple of hundred since I try to buy lumber on my regular trips to town. The cabin is only a 1/4 mile from my house so not much fuel use there.
I went just thru my reciets and not including any wood other than for the sofets wood covering, rear deck and some cedar trim it was $4,580.00 total. This amount was for the complete rear deck, front porch planks, complete metal roof, all doors(and handles), all windows, cedar trim and paint. I think you will see yours go up when you do your doors, windows, trim and paint. These things seem to add up fast. I remember my framing package being cheap and plywood was only $980.00 but after a while it seems to snowball and add up quick. Mark
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 21, 2008, 05:59:44 AM
Oh I expect it will go up alot. My budget is $15k for the total project so I'm only 1/3 done.

I'd have to go thru all the recipts to get a price list together but I can give some examples.

2x4x104 5/8 stud- $1.99
4x8 sheet 7/16 OSB- $5.35
2x6x16'- $8.00
2x8x10' treated- $8.39

Something to watch out for when shopping for lumber is price per foot for various lengths. The longest lengths are not always the cheapest per foot. For example a 2x6x10' treated is $5.79 a 2x6x12' treated is $8.55 and a 2x6x16' is $12.00 as you can see buying the wrong length will cost you more. The 10' board is the best value so when possible I used shorter boards. On the other hand the best price I got on 2x4 lumber other than studs was on 20' lengths for $5.19. I compared prices among several stores before each major purchace.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on June 21, 2008, 06:26:28 AM
Oh I expect it will go up alot. My budget is $15k for the total project so I'm only 1/3 done.

I'd have to go thru all the recipts to get a price list together but I can give some examples.

2x4x104 5/8 stud- $1.99
4x8 sheet 7/16 OSB- $5.35
2x6x16'- $8.00
2x8x10' treated- $8.39

Something to watch out for when shopping for lumber is price per foot for various lengths. The longest lengths are not always the cheapest per foot. For example a 2x6x10' treated is $5.79 a 2x6x12' treated is $8.55 and a 2x6x16' is $12.00 as you can see buying the wrong length will cost you more. The 10' board is the best value so when possible I used shorter boards. On the other hand the best price I got on 2x4 lumber other than studs was on 20' lengths for $5.19. I compared prices among several stores before each major purchace.
Your right on the cost per foot! That is one of the reasons my costs went up fast. I was buying 16 ft material when I needed 14 ft 2x10 rafters so no ends would have any splits. This made sure I would allways have good ends to work with. On my tall walls I used full length wood and 14 ft 2x6s start to add up. I allways tried to make all my plates full length and no breaks in them. All my floor joists were full length 18 ft and I could have made them 10 ft instead. I was going to sell my cabin with out any wall board up. My framing lumber had to look as good as trim wood, no way to hide any sins under sheet rock. All cuts had to fit perfect and no splits in the rafter tails or bird mouths. So each board was hand picked by me and there is a lot of select and #1s. Sometimes I would go thru 10 boards to get 1 real good one. Guess I am glad I did because a guy out of Canada who is a builder is buying my cabin. He said he liked being able to see the framing. His whole family if flying in to Oroville for me to pick up and take there. He is in love with it and is a avid hunter and fisherman. He said he will wrap it up the way he wants and it was just want he dreamed about getting. So it looks like another cabin is in the works for next spring! Mark 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 21, 2008, 06:47:33 AM
That's great news on your cabin, Mark.

Thanks for the pricing info, Scott -- people  are always wondering and that stuff always helps.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 21, 2008, 07:00:19 AM
Well everybody has me beat.  I have more in the log shells than everyone else has in their completed rough framed cabin.  I did get a good price on my lumber for the framed portion, rafters and the like.  But I guess if you want nostalgia you have to pay for it huh. I have never added my receipts up yet.  Really no need at his point.  You have to get it finished irregardless.  So in the end I will try to figure out if I built it as cheap as the original owners did. Right. ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 21, 2008, 10:57:03 AM
Mark that's great. I'm glad you found a buyer so quick. John those logs are rare and are bound to cost. Chestnut? I don't think they even make those anymore. I bet it's better quality than the original cabins where. You got a 100+ year place there for sure. If I'm lucky mine will last for 50.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 21, 2008, 11:43:49 AM
None are Chestnut.  Wish they were.  Some were made with Chestnut but these are just Oak and one Black Walnut log (replaced sill log).   I really got a deal on these two cabins. Both were less than 10K which normally the small cabine 12 X 14 would have been that much. 

Talked to a friend the other day who said that there is a new developement going in at Hot Springs, VA ( Home of Sam Snead) in which they are mating the log to new construction.  Probably 2500-3500 sq ft.  Main part is log. They set it up on a time share deal with 10 buyers. 175K for ($1.7m total) each siting on 1 ac lot.  So I figure mine is 18 miles from there' I should get at least 20K for mine. ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on June 21, 2008, 03:39:57 PM
Mark that's great. I'm glad you found a buyer so quick. John those logs are rare and are bound to cost. Chestnut? I don't think they even make those anymore. I bet it's better quality than the original cabins where. You got a 100+ year place there for sure. If I'm lucky mine will last for 50.
After the deal closes I am going to do a different thing. Not sure yet what but it will be different style building. I just wanted to see if my idea works for making a living then step it up a knotch on the pay as you build plan. Now I can re/invest into a bigger cabin next year. I want to beat the General Contractor rullings which save a lot of money in the long run. So I still need to build fast, get it on the market, still do fires for a few months and enjoy the whole winter being off work! This is my plan I have been doing it allready for 5 years, just figured a way to boost it in the spring some doing something I also enjoy. Mark
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on June 22, 2008, 11:32:03 AM
Scott, I notice your PT lumber looks different than my PT lumber.  All of mine is dark brown and turns my hands red..Your's looks more like real wood.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Willy on June 22, 2008, 03:16:08 PM
Scott, I notice your PT lumber looks different than my PT lumber.  All of mine is dark brown and turns my hands red..Your's looks more like real wood.
Pressure treated wood comes in different standards. Some is rated for weather resistance, ground contact, concrete contact, underground direct burial use ect. Some is treated for landscape use only and other for constuction use. Some has the treatment soaked on, other pressure appilied thru perferations. You need to read what the wood your buying is realy treated for and it's approved use. Most of the time there is a tag stapled to the wood and you can read what type of treatment and different treatments have different colors, ratings ect. Also not all treated wood is as good as some or can be used in all places, it depends on the treatment, ratings ect. Mark
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 22, 2008, 03:30:22 PM
The wood I used is rated for above ground outdoor use. Mainly intended for decks. I'm going to stain all the outward faces with oil which will give it a bit more protection. The wood needs to weather for 3-4 months before it will be ready for stain since it is very wet when purchased.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 25, 2008, 11:49:42 AM
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OK this pic is off topic but I thought it was cute. Taken today in my front yard. The lake is still full as you can see.

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Deck is decked and it even has stairs. Nothing fancy but they work. Even made a gravel path.

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West side wrap around decking. This deck will be continued to the north to connect to the future guest cottage and the pool.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 25, 2008, 12:27:28 PM
Really looking great, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 25, 2008, 01:10:28 PM
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Thanks Glen.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 26, 2008, 02:58:37 AM
Looking good Scott.  I guess you should be thankful that the water is still in the lake and not in your yard or living room.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 26, 2008, 03:38:51 AM
I'm very thankful but since my house is on a hill 5' higher than the dam a lot of land would be underwater first. I'd be building an ark.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ListerD on June 26, 2008, 03:43:46 AM
Scott,

It's been a while since I checked this thread and the place is simply gorgeous! Awesome job man!



Rick
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 26, 2008, 09:10:10 AM
Thanks Rick. You guys really keep me motivated with your kind words. Looking forward to seeing your project soon Rick.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ListerD on June 27, 2008, 03:36:43 AM
We're redesigning now. Hope to get a rough sketch here in a few days.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TheWire on June 28, 2008, 03:30:45 PM
Scott,

What did you use for batten strips on your building felt?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 28, 2008, 08:24:44 PM
The battens are 1x2" cedar that have been treated with oil stain on all sides.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 01, 2008, 11:49:10 AM
Finnished up the flashing work on the gable ends today. Still need to put felt on the east gable tomorrow and the flet will be finished. I'm planning to start glass soon after the forth of july holiday. I picked up a couple of big jobs for july so I'm not sure how fast it'll get done. The south door has been changed from a slider to a double french door with 15 lights per door. The veranda door will still be a slider.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on July 01, 2008, 02:32:27 PM
I hate it when making a living gets in the way of progress  like today for instance-- I had to work today - away from the area anyway - Fresno -- almost couldn't drive back home fast enough. d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 01, 2008, 05:13:43 PM
Got a call tonight. The house I was suposed to start monday has been delayed do to the permit being denied. Seems the house is too big for the addition. I never heard that one before. LOL
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on July 01, 2008, 05:18:30 PM
Sounds like more time for Deer Run unless you can shift the jobs.  Ever find a round Window?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 01, 2008, 05:30:50 PM
I have not had time to look really. I know where i can order one but I'll search the surplus market first. That window is under the veranda so it's not critical atm. The only place water ever got in is through the south doorway but I put a sheet of osb over that.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Alasdair on July 02, 2008, 07:29:08 AM
You're making a lovely job of it. I love watching peoples projects develop.  [cool]
good luck with the rest

Al
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 17, 2008, 10:20:12 AM
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I haven't had a chance to go to Tulsa to pick up windows yet but I did get the ships ladder installed. Hand rails will go on when I do trim work later on.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on July 17, 2008, 10:26:44 PM
I really like that view out the round window there, Scott.   The backhoe will look lovely.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 07, 2008, 12:54:54 PM
Well due to the heat a visit from the inlaws and the normal distractions I managed to get completly off schedule again. But here's some new pics.

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Shot of scissors from the sleeping loft.

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Looking out onto the veranda.

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Closet framing and some framing in the loft.

Still a good bit of framing left to do inside. I'll get to it in time. I'm working in Tulsa next week so the plan is to start bringing windows home each day after work.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: apaknad on August 07, 2008, 01:30:10 PM
i'm jealous scott, i'm jealous!!

 looks very nice. keep posting pics
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on August 10, 2008, 05:53:32 PM
Wow, look at all those tidy angle cuts!  Sweet!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on August 11, 2008, 05:59:20 AM
The creative craftsmanship just keeps on coming...

Very nice work. [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 11, 2008, 09:47:14 AM
Thanks. You guys are too kind.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 18, 2008, 12:13:04 PM
Finnished up most of the framing in the sleeping loft.

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Platform where the bed will sit.

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There will be a counter top in this nook opposite the bed with shelves on the right and a couple of drawers under that.
I insulated the short wall above the loft and closed it up with some left over osb. The area behind the wall will be for storage.

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Installed the first window today in the bathroom. I may set the record for the worlds slowest build.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 18, 2008, 12:18:55 PM
No Scott I think I got you beat.  Maybe you will come in a close second. Looks like you got some rain lately.  It is so dry here that the chickens are laying powdered eggs.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 18, 2008, 12:30:32 PM
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Here's the round window my wife picked out. It's a special order through Lowe's for $350
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 18, 2008, 12:37:24 PM
Well I guess the hunt is off.  There is an auction on 9/13.  Probably have a half dozen now that you don't need one huh.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 18, 2008, 12:39:45 PM
No it's a done deal now she wants that window. Never take your wife to Lowe's with you.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on August 18, 2008, 12:40:44 PM
I may set the record for the worlds slowest build.  d*

But it's a very careful and well done build.  :)

It's going to be a house with character.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on August 18, 2008, 12:42:04 PM
Never take your wife to Lowe's with you.

They have that nice display for custom shapes. We saw it too.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 18, 2008, 12:46:39 PM
Here's the companies web address. http://www.specialty-windows.com/ (http://www.specialty-windows.com/) They're in North Carolina.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 18, 2008, 03:47:30 PM
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Here's the round window my wife picked out. It's a special order through Lowe's for $350

Scott, how does she expect you to see the backhoe through that?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 18, 2008, 06:30:49 PM
I think thats why she picked it Glenn. So she wouldn't see it. It is a very nice window though. They had one on display at Lowe's. Tripple glass design. The pattern is sandwiched between 2 other pieces of glass.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 18, 2008, 07:03:35 PM
Should be easier to clean that way.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on August 18, 2008, 07:12:18 PM
I like it  :)  Your wife has good taste  8)  we do have some extra portholes windows (off a Navy ship that you can do Morse code with) maybe you could offer her one of those instead?  We have one in our bedroom door... 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 18, 2008, 07:21:50 PM
I don't know sassy  I'll have to see.

Something else shes picked out. I'll tell more about where this is going later on.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on August 18, 2008, 07:35:16 PM
Your house has an oriental flare to it...  I've always liked to mix in some oriental decor with other stuff.  My parents had a lot of stuff from Okinawa, Japan, Guam & Taiwan when they or my dad was stationed or had TDY there.  I have an ornately carved round coffee table with 4 little stools that has dragons carved on the wood.  The top has jade & other semi precious stone placed in the carvings of a village, mountains & lake - covered by glass to protect it) I think my dad got that from Guam years ago - very beautiful.   
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 23, 2008, 12:22:37 PM
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South door. This was fun to install.  d*

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Rainscreen siding sample. Stained Western Cedar. Opinions?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TheWire on August 24, 2008, 05:57:05 PM
Looks neat, but will bugs and bees and hornets get into those cracks?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 24, 2008, 08:02:05 PM
French doors are fun. 

Siding looks good - are you going to do anything about the spaces between or is that part of the plan?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 25, 2008, 02:21:33 AM
I'm sure some bugs will go behind the boards but I don't think it will be a big deal. Not really enough room in there for hornets to nest. and they can't get inside the house. We'll see.  d*

Yes the spaces are planned. I know it looks odd but this is an experiment.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 25, 2008, 02:40:40 AM
Scott bee's can get into tiny spaces especially mud doppers.  I think I would buy some plastic screen stretched over the strip first.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on August 25, 2008, 03:41:30 PM
Mud daubers are a pain. They love to build in the vents of RV furnaces for some reason.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 25, 2008, 04:36:29 PM
I'm sure you guys are right about the mud daubers. They have gotten in my mower exhaust and in a compressor motor. In the siding though I can't see them causing any real serious problems. I did think about putting screen but decided it wasn't really needed since the critters can't actually enter the house that way. We've lived with insane insect populations for many years around here. No siding can keep them completly out. Same with the water which is why I decided to try this unusual method. That and I'm hard headed.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on August 25, 2008, 05:11:14 PM
I like the look.  :)

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on August 25, 2008, 07:16:00 PM
I think it looks nice, too - if you have spiders, they'll probably like it a lot...  we have problems with the mud daubers in the eves - more so in the valley, although I see them around here whenever the ground gets wet... 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: soomb on August 26, 2008, 10:20:59 AM
Hello all!

Tired of lurking on the side line and figured I would actually sign in!  been a long time. So to jump back a few pages...
Are you at around $6k out of pocket to get to this point? (land aside). 
I have to say that this post (love the rain screen) and Willy's for his WA cabin have my wheels turning.  I live in the 50th ranked state in the union for education (AZ) and found out baby #1 is on the way.  So that along with a few other things has me wondering if a slower pace would suit me.  I am on track for a million dollar funeral at this pace.

I will apologize now for the bolus of questions I am sure to ask a good many of you (Mountain Don your up next).
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 26, 2008, 01:02:44 PM
Yes right at $6k so far.  I expect that will go over $8k in the next month or so. w* soomb

Quick update.
We're looking at product called Dryvit http://www.dryvit.com/systems_list.asp?type=2&country_id=1 (http://www.dryvit.com/systems_list.asp?type=2&country_id=1)
to use on the gable ends. I saw some samples in Tulsa today and it looks sharp.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 26, 2008, 02:17:07 PM
I see Dryvit used directly over foam here in ca - about 1/8 inch of it over foam and that's the finish -- on all the big shopping mall building exterior moldings that are foam.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 29, 2008, 11:48:35 AM
I just hauled a truckload of cedar from Tulsa to the cabin for siding. It's not bad looking stuff. Came from the same lot as the sample picture I posted earlier. Nice thing about it is it is 7/8" thick and not the normal 3/4 I've been seeing. Nice solid boards with most having 4 good sides. I'll let it dry for a couple of weeks before I start working on it.

The Dryvit is out since I was given enough treated cedar shakes today to do the gable ends. Can't resist free stuff.

Now if I can just get enough free time to work on the rest of the windows I'll be set. Too blasted hot again this week. I'm glad this is a long weekend.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 29, 2008, 11:51:04 AM
That's great, Scott.

Hotter than heck here too -- I'm trying to get up the courage to go out in it and work.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 18, 2008, 11:49:29 AM
Some new pics.

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Got started on the siding.

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Most of the windows are in. Some still need flashing.

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Kitchen window

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Veranda door is in. Needs flashed in. Round window is on order at Lowes. It's starting to come together slowly. I'm starting to feel pressure to get things done before winter.  :P Work this summer has been much bussier than I had expected. Atleast the place can be locked up now.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on September 18, 2008, 02:20:07 PM
Your siding experiment is very appealing to the eye.  [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 18, 2008, 02:53:14 PM
Looks real sharp Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: soomb on September 18, 2008, 03:18:26 PM
Your siding experiment is very appealing to the eye.  [cool]
I second that!  It is making me change my thoughts on siding.  Is it very labor intensive?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 18, 2008, 03:28:52 PM
Thanks for the kind words. Very labor intensive. Cutting, sanding, pre drilling and staining all sides of the boards does take some time.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on September 18, 2008, 04:43:28 PM
Scott,  one question,  and it's kinda late for me..  What did you use to seal the joints on your T&G plywood subfloor?  I need to do it to mine.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 18, 2008, 04:57:05 PM
Kilz primer
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 18, 2008, 06:19:15 PM
It looks good, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on September 18, 2008, 06:56:15 PM
Extremely nice. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on September 19, 2008, 01:11:13 PM
I love the look of wood on a house! I wish I could have done it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on September 23, 2008, 01:34:46 PM
That is one sharp-looking house, Scott.  I love the look... very impressive.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 24, 2008, 07:48:11 AM
Thanks for the kind coments everyone. I made a deal last night to buy an additional 4.6 acres that joins our current 1.5 acre lot on the north side. No idea what I'll do with it but having control of the ajoining property is nice.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 24, 2008, 01:04:36 PM
Is there another cabin in the future Scott?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 24, 2008, 04:57:11 PM
Could be.  ::)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on September 25, 2008, 09:12:18 AM
Gorgeous, what can I say?  I really like the siding  8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 26, 2008, 11:36:01 AM
Couple of new pics.

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Weather has been warm and dry for almost 2 weeks. I'll try to sand and stain the deck next week if it holds out. Forcast is for continued dry weather for another week.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 26, 2008, 05:18:47 PM
Looks like you are moving right along, Scott.  1/2 yet on the siding?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ListerD on September 27, 2008, 03:16:36 AM
 :o WOW!  :o

Gorgeous
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 27, 2008, 09:39:11 AM
Quote
Looks like you are moving right along, Scott.  1/2 yet on the siding?

I wish. Maybe 1/4 done.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 27, 2008, 06:53:20 PM
Well it looks great. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Alasdair on September 28, 2008, 09:23:30 AM
Nice looking job! You must be pleased! :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 28, 2008, 11:49:10 AM
It's turning out ok. I'm glad you like it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on September 30, 2008, 06:05:39 PM
It's better than ok.  It has style.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Lorangerlife on September 30, 2008, 06:11:16 PM
 :)

I am really digging that ceder siding.  How come you can't put it right over the sheathing and #30 to avoid the bugs having a small space behind there to nest?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 30, 2008, 09:27:05 PM
The space prevents capillary action from causing possible leaks and gives one more way to have a longer life on the building. 

It is a Rain Screen Wall.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 01, 2008, 04:07:37 AM
What Glenn said.  :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 01, 2008, 06:00:41 AM
Actually not only capillary action but also any place there is a hole, tear, imperfect papering technique etc., the water will drain out before leaking into the insie of the paper into the wall cavity.  In cases where the water gets to the vack side of the board it will run down the back of it and drain down the back and run harmlesly downhill to the outside.

A perfect system for a plumber's house.  Lots of draining going on there. :)

A perfect system for any house for those who care to do it.  It is the safest system with housewraps since it is easier for a housewrap such as Tyvek or others to have problems or loe the chemicals that make them work.  Any surfactant such as soap in a pressure washer, or even dirt has been shown to sometimes destroy their water proofing ability.

From University of Iowa - Mississippi Mold inspection

Quote
As contrasted with adjoining paper enclosures, Tyvek envelopes Nurtured mold
bloom of their contents. Glazed exhibit cases nurtured extensive mold as
contrasted with the condition of adjoining materials that were not cased.
Glazed wall mounted materials were also at high risk. In general, item
labeling on boxes or in tabular exposure, was more at risk for mold bloom
and damage than the enclosed items. We advised that soaked items should not
be spread out directly on polyethylene covered assembly platforms. A wicking
under-layment [such as tarpaper-felt GK] is needed to prevent an interface for mold bloom.

Most reports on Tyvek will not agree with me.  It will normally allow vapor through but if water gets through it or condensation occurs on the inside of it for some reason, then thr trouble starts.  The common response that will get them off in most cases is that you did it wrong, or a million other excuses.

I was told by family that an entire fairly new apartment complex in Oregon had to be torn down due to housewrap such as Tyvek causing mold.  Felt will wick the water out.  Tyvek will trap it.  There are tons of houses out there with no problem....but there are some that do have problems.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 01, 2008, 12:32:27 PM
Good info Glenn.

I've been sanding and staining the deck the past 2 days. Did you know that if you stain enough wood even outside the fumes get strong enough to make you dizzy? Had to call it a day.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 01, 2008, 12:42:56 PM
Just more suppressed information, Scott.  That type of info is rare on the net as big companies like to make it go away.  I previously found other refs that didn't show up this time.

In Fresno the kids will pay to help with solvent based products.... ::)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 01, 2008, 02:37:33 PM
As a plumber I've seen lots of water damage and mold problems in houses. I planned this house to eliminate as many of those issues as possible. Rain screen wall, wide eaves and overhangs, house raised off the ground etc. All of my doors and windows have a roof directly over them to prevent water from seeping in. Water is the biggest enemy a house has. Maybe I'm just paranoid but all these things make me feel better.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on October 01, 2008, 04:10:33 PM
Scott, I don't think you're paranoid.   I think you're wise.  We've had issues, especially in our first house, and of course they were all caused by water, not having the house high enough off the ground, etc.  I'd want to do the same thing if I were building right now (I wish we were!!! Still trying to get that doggone house sold!!!)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 01, 2008, 05:54:01 PM
I think it's a good plan, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: soomb on October 06, 2008, 06:03:13 AM
I learn more and more from you guys.  (filling up my sketch/note pad)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 06, 2008, 06:41:51 AM
Try Evernote - use the desktop version w/the webclipper for Firefox - it syncs to the web one too - free version is great - thanks to Daddymem for the recommendation.

http://www.evernote.com/
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on October 16, 2008, 12:50:34 PM
how's the cabin coming, Scott?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: soomb on October 16, 2008, 12:54:51 PM
Glenn, Evernote.com  I am addicted!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Whitlock on October 16, 2008, 01:40:37 PM
WOW! I like that cabin :) and all the creativity you have put in it [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 16, 2008, 03:03:51 PM
You only get one ride. Why go second class?  ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 16, 2008, 08:56:14 PM
Glenn, Evernote.com  I am addicted!

I thought you might like it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: SkagitDrifter on October 23, 2008, 01:51:25 PM
Hey Scott-
I have watched your progress over the last few months-
your project is beautiful- great job so far.
I looked back through the thread and did not see you mention the product you are using to stain your cedar siding.  From the pictures it looks great.  I too am using western red cedar siding on my project and am looking for a similar color/look.  Can you tell me the brand and color?
Thanks- and keep up the good work.
Tom
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 23, 2008, 02:12:56 PM
It's McClosky semi transparent deck and siding stain. The color is natural cedar. http://www.valsparglobal.com/val/resident/mccloskey_ext.jsp# (http://www.valsparglobal.com/val/resident/mccloskey_ext.jsp#) Also a little goes a long ways.

Thanks, I'm happy you like it. I should have some new pics comming soon. The deck has been stained. The round window is in and I'm shingling on the west gable end ATM.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 23, 2008, 02:23:05 PM
Oh also so you know the wood is sanded to 80 grit with a random orbital sander and wiped after the stain soaks in for few minutes.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 23, 2008, 02:29:21 PM
It did turn out well Scott.  What about sealer?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 23, 2008, 02:32:10 PM
Turned out nice. The whole works will get a second coat sometime next year so no sealer yet. Needs to weather a bit first. I'll take some pics tomorrow.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 24, 2008, 11:47:48 AM
Sorry taking so long with new pics. Been real busy.

I finnished up the siding on the south side and got the deck stained.

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The round window is in. This was the last one so all windows and doors are in now.

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An outside overview shot.

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I'm working on the west gable end. The cedar shakes are on and I've started on the sofit. The sofit is 1/2" exterior A/C plywood that's been water proofed. It would have been better to put the sofit up first but I had a duh moment.  d*

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Here's the next piece drying in the workshop.

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In case you didn't notice I have ADD so I jump around alot.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 24, 2008, 12:07:57 PM
Looks real good Scott. I have to admit the window looks better than the backhoe.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: apaknad on October 24, 2008, 02:25:32 PM
very well done scott. you must be quite pleased with your work.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 24, 2008, 07:51:47 PM
Looks real good Scott. I have to admit the window looks better than the backhoe.

Can anything look better than a backhoe, John? hmm 

I hope Scott made that window open so his wife can see the backhoe when she wants too.  It appears a bit obscure... [crz]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 25, 2008, 05:22:20 AM
If you tilt your head just right and squint you can sorta see out.  ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: apaknad on October 25, 2008, 05:41:08 AM
i love backhoes(that's all i'm going to say).  ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 25, 2008, 06:16:23 AM
Are we on the same page, Dan? rofl
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on October 25, 2008, 07:38:23 AM
 :D :D  you guys are funny...   Scott, I'm sure your wife will insist that you leave the views open so she can see the beautiful wilderness  ;)  I've had to fight Glenn to keep him from blocking all our windows (and we have a lot!) with shops, equipment, walls etc  ::)  I told him "we may as well be down in the valley" if all the views are blocked"...  he's listened to me somewhat...  d*

BTW, Scott, your place keeps getting beautifuller & beautifuller  8)  I wouldn't mind one of those round windows...  I have a round signal shutter window off a ship in a door in our bedroom  ;D

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Whitlock on October 26, 2008, 07:07:21 AM
What great work you have done. [cool]

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 26, 2008, 09:51:53 AM
Thanks for the kind words.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 30, 2008, 10:15:10 AM
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Finnished up the west dutch gable. Hard to belive it's been over a year since I started this project.  d*

Cost to date $8700. 15k budget. Think I'll make it?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 30, 2008, 12:48:02 PM
Good job Scott.  Looks better without the roof jacks on the roof. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MadisonsDad on October 30, 2008, 03:52:31 PM
 :)This place is the bomb!!! [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MadisonsDad on October 30, 2008, 04:56:09 PM
Does you cedar siding on the outside corners butt up against the other side or did you make an angle cut on the ends to match up? Did you use some kind of spacer as you went to keep your gaps uniform or just measure it as you went? I think it's really impressive how the cedar lines up with the next side and how it looks straight as an arrow.

That deck would be a great place to sit and listen to a Minnesota Twins game and enjoy a cool one. c*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 30, 2008, 05:11:30 PM
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Here's a closer view of the corner. I used a 3/8" drill bit as a spacer.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 10, 2008, 09:57:51 AM
Wet cool rainy day today so I'm trapped at home. Quick update. I sold 3 acres of the 4.5 I purchaced on the north side to my brother. He's going to build a small cabin there in the spring after doing the clearing this winter. I guess he liked my idea of small and self sufficent living. Will be good to have him next door.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 10, 2008, 10:35:18 AM
That is great, Scott.  Nice to have someone nearby that you can trust and count on in emergency or even when either of you need a hand.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 03, 2008, 08:08:02 AM
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Not much to see this month. I poured a slab for the wood stove to sit on. 360 lbs. of concrete covering about 9 sq. ft. for thermal mass. The flooring is doubled under the slab. Spent some time clearing trees around the cabin and making firewood. I also put in the outlet and switch boxes for the electrical. The weather has been too chilly the past week or so to do any staining but I did manage to get the shakes on the east gable. Waiting for a semi warm spell to trim it out. Maybe next week. Till then I'll be working on the inside.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 03, 2008, 09:42:10 AM
It'll be nice to get the stove in place, is that on the to do soon list?

I thought about building the floor up in the corner where our stove sits too. I decided against it as thermal mass works both ways. It would take longer to warm the cabin when we go up on a winter weekend.

Are you going to tile or stone it?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 03, 2008, 12:05:11 PM
We're talking about tile but I don't know yet. The wall behind it gets bricked so I need to do that first. I'm trying to get things ready for the stove but I don't know how soon it will get done. My schedule has been crazy lately.

This cabin will be used year round so the thermal mass comes in handy.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: CWhite on December 04, 2008, 07:14:04 AM
Scott, I love the pictures of your progress, and look forward to watching your thread.

I also envy your route to being debt free.  Our place is done, but we're paying for it every month. 

Christina
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: wildbil on December 04, 2008, 08:46:23 AM
I've just read through this thread. Thats one awesome house Scott. [cool] [cool] [cool] [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bishopknight on December 04, 2008, 11:11:29 AM
An absolutely gorgeous and unique house. I love the siding and how you're putting all the finishing touches on it.

Great job on staying below 10k up till now. Its come out beautifully. Keep the pics coming. Yours are one of the few I can view pics of from work!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 04, 2008, 12:02:19 PM
Thanks, I'm happy you all like it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on December 06, 2008, 06:04:15 AM
Hopefully it'll warm up soon and you can keep working.  Ok, so really I'm hoping it will warm back up soon so that the kids can play outside and quit tearing up the house, but.... it would benefit you too. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 06, 2008, 06:14:36 AM
HG when we where kids we had hats and mittens.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 29, 2008, 11:14:10 AM
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We got a break in the weather so I was able to finish the east gable end finaly. I installed all the electrical boxes and drilled the holes for the wires. Next will be the can lights for the sofits outside and the breaker panel. I'll get going on siding again once warmer weather gets here. I've been helping my brother clear trees for his cabin which we'll be starting in the spring. He's going to hire me to help him build it. I'll put up some pics of that when we get it going. His cabin will be about 400' north of this cabin.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on December 29, 2008, 11:18:53 AM
400' is a tough distance....  It's close enough for you to see him read his newspaper in his underwear but too far to throw a rock at him.   d*

Gable end looks good.  Very nice detail work.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: soomb on December 29, 2008, 02:50:28 PM
400' is a tough distance....  It's close enough for you to see him read his newspaper in his underwear but too far to throw a rock at him.   d*

Gable end looks good.  Very nice detail work.
that is why God made slingshots... to solve such a problem as this.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 29, 2008, 03:23:36 PM
There's a few hundred trees in the way of a clear shot though. I'm more inclinded to artillery type shots to clear the trees. Maybe a potato gun.  ???
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on December 29, 2008, 04:08:55 PM
ooooh, this takes me back... CONDOR DROPPINGS!!!!!  soaked toilet paper in a ball, lobbed over the trees will sure make him put his pants on.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on December 30, 2008, 06:52:36 PM
HG when we where kids we had hats and mittens.

And health insurance...not that we were ever taken to the hospital unless something was definitely broken.  Heck, I didn't even get to the hospital for a week after breaking my collar bone, cause grandma said, "you're just being a baby", and she'll never live that one down!

I love your house dude.  You are doing an amazing job with the exterior.  Love that rain screen siding.  Gonna be a hard act to follow up on the interior though...what do you think, Irish immigrant style wood paneling everywhere (jab, jab, from a part Irishman)?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 31, 2008, 09:36:20 AM
The inside will likely end up looking like an old english pub. lol We'll see. What's the Irish immigrant style look like anyways?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on December 31, 2008, 12:53:21 PM
HG when we where kids we had hats and mittens.

And health insurance...not that we were ever taken to the hospital unless something was definitely broken.  Heck, I didn't even get to the hospital for a week after breaking my collar bone, cause grandma said, "you're just being a baby", and she'll never live that one down!

I love your house dude.  You are doing an amazing job with the exterior.  Love that rain screen siding.  Gonna be a hard act to follow up on the interior though...what do you think, Irish immigrant style wood paneling everywhere (jab, jab, from a part Irishman)?
They have hats and mittens, but they just don't have much to do... the back yard is a tiny little postage stamp with stockade fences.  They go feed and water the dogs and play for a little while, but then they get cold (entire back yard is shaded and there's not enough room to run around and get warm, so fifteen to twenty minutes and they're knocking at the back door again.)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on January 01, 2009, 05:02:30 PM
Its part of a Dennis Leary comedy bit.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt-rz6jmmbE&feature=related
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 02, 2009, 05:32:33 AM
Yep, that about covers it.  d* I shot myself in the hand with a staple gun once. Had to pull it out with pliers. I didn't cry.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: alcowboy on January 02, 2009, 12:35:45 PM
I actually saw one of the guys on DIY Blog Cabin shoot himself through the fingers with a nail gun. Luckly, he had no bone injuries.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 02, 2009, 01:59:11 PM
Shot myself with an air nailer.  16d nail right through the palm near the thumb.  It would have been alright if it hadn't hit the bone.  Had a friend pull it out.  Didn't hurt until about 10 minutes afterwards.  Awkward standing position (window sill) and leaning to the outside.   d* d*.  Long time healing on that one but no Dr. or hosp. I think if you work any at all you will get injuries. Some more serious than others but it will happen.  My wife worries constantly being on the mountain by myself. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on January 02, 2009, 03:43:28 PM
I was nailing sheething one day in the dead of winter.  Here I am, standing on the header of a window, 15 or 20' up, leaning over the top of the wall and reaching down to nail the sheet into the header.  I was a little high with one shot, and ofcourse it was the one where my already frozen foot was placed!  Didn't puncture, but MAN did it hurt! 

Had a 16d skip off the top of a plate when it split off some wane on the board, hit my fist that was holding the stud in place. 

No matter how careful you try to be, how far away you try to keep your hand, accidents do happen...that's why they're called accidents.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: soomb on January 02, 2009, 09:06:25 PM
not to turn this into the "I remember one time..." forum... BUT I remember one time where I was doing office interiors with metal framing and sheet rock and screwed right into the meat of my hand below the thumb on the other side of a corner.. It is amazing how fast you can switch a screw gun into reverse with one hand when you have just been motivated.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on January 10, 2009, 11:59:02 AM
First post here,but I've been reading for awhile. So many great ideas here! Just have to say thanks to Scott for sharing all he has done so far. Really like his design and is just what I've been looking for. Can't wait for more pics as he does the inside!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2009, 12:02:40 PM
w* to the forum. Scott is building a real beauty.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 11, 2009, 11:59:20 AM
Thanks for the kind words.  w*

Things have been in a bit of a lull the past few weeks but I'm set to get rolling again next week. The can lights are in as of friday and I'm going to set the panel and start pulling wire next week. This will be followed by the plumbing rough. If it's still too cold to finish the sofit and siding by then I'll start insulation. I've decided to hold off on the wood stove till later in the year as there's alot of other things higher on the priority list ATM.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 13, 2009, 06:00:36 AM
I picked up the panel and the wire yesterday. Add that to the boxes and can lights I bought before and the total was less than $400. Not bad for the electrical rough in. I had figured $500-600. Now if wasn't so damn cold I could get some work done.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 14, 2009, 04:07:28 PM
Well I managed to get the electrical panel in along with breakers and pulled the wire for the kitchen. Deep freeze cold front moving in tonight so I'm dead in the water for the next couple of days. Was nice to get a little something done this week though.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: bayview on January 14, 2009, 04:24:02 PM


Scott: 

   I may have missed it before, but what size service are you using?  How many amp box? . . . and what size cable - wire are you running into the box?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 14, 2009, 07:07:10 PM
Service will be #4 copper. Panel in the cabin is 100 amp. It is actualy a sub panel.  The calculated load on the cabin and the future guest cottage which will be fed from this sub panel is about 75 amps. There will be another 30 amp sub sub panel in the guest cottage. The main panel (200 amp) is on the pole under the meter. There will also be another sub panel in the shop I'm going to build later fed from the main panel.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 18, 2009, 01:27:50 PM
Here's a few pics of wiring in progress.

Sub panel serving the cabin also contains a 30 amp breaker that will feed a second sub panel in the future guest cottage. Mark said not to put it in the closet but I did anyway. No inspections here. Still plenty of room to work on it if needed. I ended up with 10 circuts.

30 amp 240v for Dryer
30 amp 240v for guest cottage
20 amp 120v for kitchen recepticals West
20 amp 120v for kitchen recepticals East
20 amp 120v for washer
20 amp 120v for A/C
15 amp 120v for microwave
15 amp 120v for GFCI's in bath and on veranda (cieling fan is also on this circut)
15 amp 120v for lights
15 amp 120v for all other recepticals

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Kitchen wall wirng.

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Cieling fan box.

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Looking up into the loft.

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I should finnish up the wiring this week. Then I'll start the plumbing rough.

Next years firewood is almost done just a few more blocks to split this week.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on January 18, 2009, 03:15:42 PM
It's always a good idea to be a year ahead on the wood. It amazes me when I see folks cutting wood in the fall for that winters use.  d*

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 20, 2009, 06:04:30 AM
Lots more heat out of it that way.  I have lots of several year dead wood that makes immediate seasoned wood - a bit harder on the saw chain but not bad.

The electrical looks great, Scott. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 23, 2009, 01:59:42 PM
I finished up the electrical rough today with the exception of the main service line. I still need to wire for phones and networking. A buddy of mine whos hard up for some work came by today and helped me start sanding the scissor trusses. I'm going to sub out my tile work to him since that what he does and can likely do a better job than I can. He may help with a few other minor things as well. Starting in about 2 weeks I'll be working on deer run more or less full time until it's finished. After discussing it with the wife we dicided it wasn't worth chasing low paying construction jobs right now and I'd be better off working on the house. Plumbing rough starts next week.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 23, 2009, 08:36:44 PM
I know how you feel about the low pay jobs.  I quit taking them for the most part too.  If I can't make a bit of a profit then there's no use working.  I'm a whore but I'm not a cheap whore. d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on January 24, 2009, 10:04:42 AM
What is it you do again Scott?  Sparky?  Nice panel BTW, nice and clean. 

I agree about the low paying jobs, its tough to work for free.  I'm finishing up on my first furniture commission, the wife cracked me the other day, "what are you making, about $3 an hour?".  Probably true, but it is for a friend who is quite special, wanna give him something he can't afford, and can pass on to his baby when grown up.  In low paying situations, I find that the employer expects lower quality as well, I just can't do that, so they get upset, and I am upset for not making anything...it's a vicious cycle!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 24, 2009, 10:44:04 AM
The ones I have a problem with is the ones who want to pay low for top quality.  I'll work at home, thank you. [crz]

When the ones that will pay good realize they need me worse than I need them, I have no trouble getting what I want. [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 24, 2009, 02:45:50 PM
I do plumbing and HVAC mostly. I had a contractor try to get me to lower my price to a point I would only have made about $8 an hour. I told him no thanks. This is a guy I've done work for years. I haven't started a new house since september. BTW the contractor that got the work uses 100% Mexican labor.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 24, 2009, 03:48:54 PM
My cousin says he can hardly compete with the Mexican workforce and he is in North central Oregon.

I have nothing personally against the Mexican workers but I think it would be better for our economy if the illegal ones worked in Mexico.  Actually all the illegals who don't have a permit to work here.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on January 24, 2009, 04:08:43 PM
I think it would be better if the greedy white man weren't trying to screw everyone, from the labor force, to the supply companies, to the subs, to the buyer of that new cracker jacks box house they are building.  If only there were more pride, respect, morals, and Biblical commands out there...being used I mean.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 24, 2009, 06:33:36 PM
I don't have anything against them either really. They are just trying to survive. Problem is they break all the rules I have to follow. No licences, no insurance, no quality. I don't see how anyone can expect skilled workers to work for minimum wage. It's a sign of the time I guess. They'll go after the white collar jobs next you watch.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 24, 2009, 06:57:04 PM
Glenn that is because of your warm weather.  We had some nearby but when it got really cold they seem to disappear.  I guess the work force has downsized and there were not as many jobs available as there once was either.  That don't have to travel as far either. ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 24, 2009, 07:20:42 PM

Some of them use antifreeze.... [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 27, 2009, 12:40:51 PM
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I could use some antifreeze.  c*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Terry on January 27, 2009, 01:19:10 PM
ohhh, the cabin looks so pretty with the ice. Is that snow or ice on the ground? We have freezing rain here and they're talking it might ice and snow tonight if the temp drops.
Be sure and post lots of pics when you start the plumbing. I learn best from pics.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 27, 2009, 01:28:25 PM
Ice and sleet for about 24 hours straight now. It's still sleeting.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on January 27, 2009, 07:03:01 PM
The place looks so good Scott.  I really like the dutch gable.  You forgot some siding on the front there.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 27, 2009, 07:17:15 PM
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You forgot some siding on the front there.

I'll get right on that. Soon as the Ice melts.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: diyfrank on January 27, 2009, 07:34:55 PM
Thats a great picture!

Scott I really like your design.
  I would like to be able to do something similar, but then I would feel Like I stole Your work.
I'll keep an eye on your progress.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: hnash53 on February 03, 2009, 08:20:06 AM
ScottA,

Great story on your house!!

I am wondering, while you were building before you got the roof on, did you cover the cabin from the rain?

If not, did the water on the OSB floor do any damage?  Is that what the sealer is for?

When I built my cabin here in Wyoming (where it rains MUCH less than in OK), the little rain we did get did cause some damage to the OSB flooring.

Also, did you insulate the floor before putting on the OSB?  (Maybe that was in your story but I've forgotten after reading 21 pages!).

Thanks.
Hal
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on February 03, 2009, 08:52:30 AM
Too bad that icing didn't happen at Xmas, you would not need decorations.  Beautiful.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 03, 2009, 08:55:49 AM
Hi Hal. No I didn't cover anything while I was building and as luck would have it we also had one of the wetest winters ever last year. It rained about every 3-4 days. The OSB floor started showing some edge swelling after about 2 months. The sealer was my wifes idea. I'm not sure how much it helped but the swelling didn't get any worse after that. But it worked out OK. The damage was nominal and didn't hurt anything so far as I can tell. I spent about 4 hours with a sander and its good as new again. Insulating the floor will be one of the last things I do. I'm still arguing with myself over the best way to do this. Often when I'm not sure of something I'll put it off for a while so I can think it over.  
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on February 03, 2009, 09:08:48 AM
"Insulating the floor will be one of the last things I do. I'm still arguing with myself over the best way to do this."

1) Take Aleave/Tylenol/asprin ahead of time.
2) Do it in segments, like 2 hours a day, several times.
3) Send everyone away so what comes out of your mouth doesn't upset people.

Any way you slice it, it's a PITA.   >:(
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 03, 2009, 10:27:37 AM
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3) Send everyone away so what comes out of your mouth doesn't upset people.

You drove a truck-- you have a license.

If their ears and minds are that tender they are likely not going to survive in the wild anyway.  Let's weed them out.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 03, 2009, 04:50:10 PM
Framing with a hammer has the same hazard. One miss and smashed finger and suddenly it sounds like a navy yard.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 23, 2009, 02:01:33 PM
Quick update.

As usual I managed to get side tracked the past few weeks. All the material for the DWV plumbing is on site and all the holes are drilled. I also picked up the wall cabinet for the tankless water heater so you guys will be able to see how an in the wall install works soon I hope. I'll be working on this over the next few days. I started on the sofits. I was working on the cieling for the veranda today. I got the insulation in the loft floor so I'm all itchy now. The wood for that is varnished and will be going up tomorrow. Things should be moving much faster now since I'm going full time on the cabin for a while. Atleast untill we start my brothers cabin. The wife has set the completion date as 12/09 or sooner. I'll try to remember to get some pics as I go.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Terry on February 23, 2009, 05:42:33 PM
Good, glad to hear you're back working on the cabin. Anxiously waiting for those pictures.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 23, 2009, 09:04:28 PM
Good to hear, Scott.  I assume you can handle the plumbing OK? :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on February 25, 2009, 06:12:51 AM
There you go assuming again Glenn
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 25, 2009, 08:44:03 AM
I can handle it if I ever get started on it.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 25, 2009, 12:42:11 PM
Here's some new pics.

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Veranda cieling in progress.

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Cabnet for tankless water heater.

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I'm not sure what this stuffs for. ???

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W/H cabnet from the inside. This will get swallowed up by the kitchen cabnets.

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Can lights. There are 8 of these around the outside of the house.

Trying to make some progress but it seems like I can never work more than a couple of hours with out getting called away for something or other.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on February 25, 2009, 08:57:23 PM
Looks really good, Scott!  I kinda like the black contrast of the felt with the spacers (screen wall, strapping, whatever it's called - I asked Glenn  ;) )
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 25, 2009, 09:51:10 PM
Great Scott!  - Looks great, Scott.

I like the backhoe viewing window. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Terry on February 26, 2009, 05:21:09 AM
Looks really good. Curious about that cabinet for tankless water heater. The ones I've seen were alot shorter and installed inside.
 [cool] house.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 26, 2009, 07:02:05 AM
Looking good Scott.  I still think a stone entryway around the door would set it off.  You already have the builders paper up. Add lathe, parge and stone.  Maybe find something in the color that compliments the siding color.  If I was closer I would do it for you. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 26, 2009, 08:45:58 AM
Terry the tankless water heater mounts inside the cabinet. There is also room inside for all the valves and connections. With this setup no vent is needed as it vents directly to the outside. Also makes it easier to work on since it access from outside.

John are you talking about around the veranda door?
I'm planning to do the wall behind the woodstove and the visable piers with the veneer stone that home depot sells.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 26, 2009, 09:15:08 AM
John are you talking about around the veranda door?
I'm planning to do the wall behind the woodstove and the visable piers with the veneer stone that home depot sells.

Thanks for the kind words everyone.

Yes that is what I was talking about. Like I did around my front door to the cabin. 

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 26, 2009, 09:21:39 AM
That's a good idea. I may do that. Thanks
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Terry on February 26, 2009, 11:26:24 AM
Thanks for the details on the cabinet. I like the idea to have it on the outside.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 02, 2009, 12:20:38 PM
New pics.

You may recall I mentioned this a while back.

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I finnished the cieling over the veranda.

After talking it over with the wife we decided to go with Johns idea of putting veneerstone around the veranda door. We'll use the same stone we are planning to use behind the wood stove and on the piers. Thanks again John that should make a nice contrast to the cedar.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 02, 2009, 01:17:49 PM
Scott I think it would really set it off.  I listed a page of companies for the stone.  Eldorado & Owens Corning are probably the most handled.  Not that they are any better than the rest just more available.  You might search it out as a lot of companies will ship it to you.  If you look around there might be one close to you and a small day trip to pick it up.  Just guesstimating it looks like about 40-50 Sq Ft will do it from the inside corner to the outside corner. That's the cheapest portion of your stone as all will be "flats" and no corners required.  Don't know what you have inside.  Now the next big question is the style stone to choose.  That is sort of like paint color it may take some time.  ;D

http://www.google.com/search?q=cultured+stone&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&rlz=1I7GGLF_en

http://www.culturedstone.com/products/stone.asp

http://www.eldoradostone.com/flashsite/

http://www.eldoradostone.com/flashsite/
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 02, 2009, 09:44:30 PM
That looks cool, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bobmarlon on March 03, 2009, 12:02:33 AM
Hi Im new to the boards,  your cabin has really inspired me. IT looks amazing the siding is really cool.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 03, 2009, 05:37:48 AM
 w* Bobmarlon

I'm happy you like the cabin.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 06, 2009, 01:43:24 PM
I met with the water company today. They finaly got their main relocated and are now ready to release new taps. I applied for 2 taps. One for us and one for my brothers house. With any luck we should have water 4-6 weeks. I got the plumbing in for the kitchen and laundry this week. Also finished about 20 more feet of sofit around the north side. I hope to have that and the rest of the DWV plumbing done next week.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on March 06, 2009, 01:56:21 PM
Sounds like you are moving right along!  Oh, and I really like that dragon carving & how you placed it  8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Terry on March 11, 2009, 02:39:26 PM
I got the plumbing in for the kitchen and laundry this week. 

Don't forget, I learn by seeing pictures.  ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 21, 2009, 03:48:07 PM
I'll get you some pics this coming week Terry. Sorry I've real been busy. I finished up the sofits and trim and dwv plumbing this week. Today I brought over about 50 more cedar boards so I can start back on the siding this coming week. I'll be doing the west side (the one with the bumpout) next.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bishopknight on March 23, 2009, 04:07:14 PM
Scott,

You're doing an amazing job! I really like the siding, outdoor recessed lights and wood finishing everywhere. Its giving me ideas :)

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 24, 2009, 11:37:42 AM
Thanks Bishopknight.

I wanted to show you all this rig before I packed it away again.

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This is a Jasper circle jig. It mounts on a plunge router. I used this for cutting the holes for the can lights. It cuts a perfect circle every time.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 24, 2009, 11:43:05 AM
Here's a batch of siding I did this afternoon.

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Sofits are done.
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And as promised some plumbing pics.

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Hope thats not too many pics.  :P

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on March 24, 2009, 12:03:54 PM
Too many pictures?  No way!!

Looking nice Scott.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 24, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Looks good Scott.  Nice tool too.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 24, 2009, 08:01:26 PM
Nice job, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 01, 2009, 01:19:26 PM
More fun and games today. I had the septic guy out to give me a quote, $2500. He says he can start as soon as the perk test guy gives me the paperwork. The perk test guy isn't returning my calls. The water company says they'll put in the water meter as soon as the septic is done and the power guy says he'll put in the power line as soon as the water guys are done. So the bottom line is all this is held up by one perk test guy who won't answer the phone. I did however manage to get the pocket door frame in today despite all this other fun.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: bayview on April 01, 2009, 06:01:09 PM
   Just the opposite here in Texas . . . Generally they want the water meter installed before the septic.  The septic installer normally fills the tanks before he leaves.  An empty tank could conceivably pop out of the ground during a heavy rain.

   I had the electric and water meter installed over 4 years ago . . . I won’t install the septic until I am nearly finished with our home.

   By the way . . . Seems like a great price on the septic . . .   [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on April 02, 2009, 03:03:07 AM
Scott,
Your plumbing vents appear to exit at the sidewalls.  Can you describe this or show some pics of what it looks like on the exterior?
I find very little information about sidewall venting except notes that "it is sometimes allowed".  I would like to do this to avoid roof penetrations.
Thanks,
Jesse
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 02, 2009, 03:21:15 AM
The vents go out into the sofits travel a ways tie into each other and exit through the roof. The house has a 2' overhang so I had room to use like an attic for running the vents. I did this to reduce the number of vents through the roof and so I could keep them in the back.  I didn't manage to get any pics of the outside.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on April 02, 2009, 04:16:37 AM
oh, now I see.  I thought perhaps they terminated out the side of the house.  I didn't take the overhang into account.
Have you ever seen venting at a sidewall? 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: pagan on April 02, 2009, 04:31:39 AM
Very clever with the vents, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 02, 2009, 08:09:11 AM
Quote
Have you ever seen venting at a sidewall? 

No. But I have seen people run a vent out through the wall then up to the roof along the outside of the house.

I also ran alot of the wiring in the sofits to cut down on hole drilling.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 02, 2009, 11:39:02 AM
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Perk testing. I filled the holes today for the pre soak. The testing guy will is suposed to come around 9 in the morning to do the perk test. I had to dig 3 holes 2' deep 75' feet apart.

If everything goes according to plan the septic will be installed on Monday.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 02, 2009, 11:43:02 AM
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I got the pocket door frame in yesterday. I belive this is the same kind Peg_688 recomended. It has steel wraped studs and 2, 4 roller door hangers.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 02, 2009, 11:45:25 AM
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I picked up the Rinnai tankless water heater today. Here is a pic of it in it's cabinet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 02, 2009, 11:48:52 AM
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I installed the shower valve today. It's a Delta Monitor.

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I also installed the shower drain for the tile shower.

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The shower has a recessed light fixture above it. I did this when I was doing the electrical.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on April 02, 2009, 01:34:21 PM
looks good Scott, don't forget (I'm sure you didn't), that the light needs to be GFCI circuit. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 02, 2009, 01:37:05 PM
Scott you must be going to build and tile the stall for the shower?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 02, 2009, 01:42:25 PM
Yes, John the shower will be tiled top to bottom. Even the cieling gets tile.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Terry on April 02, 2009, 02:26:50 PM
WOW, thanks Scott for the great plumbing pics. I was hoping you would get a pic from underneath and you delivered. Nice Job  [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 03, 2009, 10:49:17 AM
I got the perk test this morning and the septic guys showed up a little after 1pm. I'll try to get some pics this evening. Ahead of schedule for a change.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on April 03, 2009, 12:03:25 PM
Yahoooo!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on April 03, 2009, 02:38:58 PM
"I picked up the Rinnai tankless water heater today. Here is a pic of it in it's cabinet."

Scott, is that cabinet sticking out from the outside wall, or is it set in?  I can't tell for sure from the pic.

That heater is what my cabin wants when it grows up.  ergo the question.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 03, 2009, 03:28:32 PM
The cabinet is in the wall. It has a lip that sticks out about 1 1/2".
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 03, 2009, 04:04:15 PM
A few pics of the lateral lines going in. The tank should be in monday.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 03, 2009, 04:10:26 PM
Scott are you using perforated pipe or chambers.  Chambers have pretty well taken this area over. I put my own system in and used perforated at that time.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 03, 2009, 04:14:05 PM
It's perf. I looked at the chambers but the septic guy said they where a rip off so we just went with the old way.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 06, 2009, 12:27:00 PM
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We got the septic tank in today. Now on to the water.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on April 06, 2009, 01:49:42 PM
Scott's on a Roll!  Spring is such a great time of year, things get back in motion. Congratulations
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 08, 2009, 11:50:55 AM
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I ran the sewer from the house to the septic tank today. I also started back on the siding.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 08, 2009, 12:02:19 PM
Scott what size is your tank.  It seems that this area uses a rectangle 1000 gal.  In addition I see you installed a clean out.  Is it a sweeping 90 or "t".  I finally got my plumbing done in the crawlspace.  At the end of the main line (straight line) I installed a screw in plug to work on cleaning out the main line.  I have another sweeping  90 after it drops to the basement floor to clean out to the tank. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 08, 2009, 01:35:09 PM
It's a 1000 gallon tank John. The cleanout is a special 2-way cleanout fitting. It's basicly a double throated sweep 90 that allows a snake to be inserted in both directions.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on April 08, 2009, 03:21:59 PM
Cool.  It is amazing what you find that is out there but just not around here.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 08, 2009, 07:12:26 PM
What do you think about the trees, Scott? 

I just repaired a leach field with no problem except that an oak tree had started roots into the start of the leach field and completely plugged both lines as well as growing into the "D" box.  Almost exactly 20 years - when I crossed the old field with the new one, it was good, clean and dry.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 08, 2009, 08:00:13 PM
I'm keeping the trees. If need be I'll dig it up in 20 years and redo it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 08, 2009, 08:23:56 PM
Good plan - I left the culprit too but used the backhoe to remove the roots in that area.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 10, 2009, 11:47:22 AM
I finnished about 1/2 the siding on the west side this week. The phone guy was out today to measure and kill time it looked like. He was there for a good half hour and didn't really do anything. They'll be out next week to trench in the phone line. The power company said they put me on the schedule but didn't give me a date yet. I got an address this week as well. Progress marches on.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 17, 2009, 12:05:55 PM
Just about finnished with the siding on the west side. Might get it done this weekend if it doesn't rain too much. Got the phone line in. They had to trench over 600'. Cost me $28. I thought that was fair. The phone guy gave me enough wire and jacks to do the whole house. Problem is now people can call and pester me which slows things down even more. Worked on the copper plumbing pipes some more too. The fun never ends.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on April 17, 2009, 07:33:01 PM
Very cool, Scott.  Haven't had time to check out your cabin in a while with the move and all, but it is looking great!  (Had to go back three pages to catch back up on it!)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 21, 2009, 07:54:26 AM
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Here's a new pic I took this morning showing the siding progress. The power is being installed today as well.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on April 21, 2009, 08:14:04 AM
Looking very handsome Scott! :D :D :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: pagan on April 21, 2009, 08:22:04 AM
Very nice.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on April 21, 2009, 08:27:17 AM
 [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 21, 2009, 02:52:46 PM
Thanks for the kind words.

The power pole is in and the meter is set. I went shopping and got the stuff to set up a recep on the pole for temp power until I get around to digging the trench for the service.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: bayview on April 21, 2009, 03:35:23 PM
   

   Custom - Quality . . . You really have set the bar high!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: markert2523 on April 21, 2009, 07:05:47 PM
Scott

I picked up a piece of this cedar from Lowes.  Curious how you attached it to the battens?  Finish nailer with galvanized?  Seems a little brittle.  Any problem with splits?  Also, I thought I had seen it before on this thread but what did you use for a spacer between boards and how wide is the gap?

Thanks
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 22, 2009, 03:14:45 AM
I ran into a few brittle pieces but not many. I was careful to only select the best boards. There will be some degree of scrap with a job like this. The boards are attached with a HD galvanized 8 finnish nail. The boards are pre drilled and hand nailed. I doubt you could keep an air nailer set right but might be worth a try. Pre drilling prevents splits and keeps the nails in a straight line. The boards are spaced 3/8" apart. I used a drill bit as a spacer.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Opc Patrick on April 29, 2009, 06:06:29 PM
Scott, I have been watching this site for quite some time.    Well when I found this site you were on page 19, so I had some catching up to do.   Anyway, I wanted to say I loved the cabin / home and the way it was coming along.    I figured my first post should be Kudos to you.      Also I have just purchased some land in God's Country (Oklahoma) Near Waurika on the Red River and plan on building a cabin.  So I may will be asking a lot of questions.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on April 29, 2009, 06:30:22 PM
Beautiful! 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 30, 2009, 03:24:59 AM
 w*  Opc Patrick. This is a good place to ask questions. You couldn't have picked a better place to buy land.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 02, 2009, 05:24:09 AM
Haven't seen the place in a bit, Scott, being short on time with my contract job- finally one that pays more than it costs, but I just wanted to say it is really looking good....

...and would the two of you like to get together and sing a few bars of Red River Valley? .... [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 02, 2009, 07:28:13 AM
Glad to hear you made the rent this month Glenn. I don't want anything to do with rivers ATM. The grand river looks like the mississippi today.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 02, 2009, 11:09:52 AM
Thanks, Scott.  Looking to stock up on equipment supplies and pay off old bills while there is something over expenses coming in.. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 03, 2009, 06:57:22 AM
Good plan Glenn. I picked up a job in Tulsa for this week.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 03, 2009, 07:00:03 AM
Good deal, Scott. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 14, 2009, 11:21:14 AM
North siding done. Lots of rain around here lately.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on May 14, 2009, 01:07:46 PM
Looking good, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 14, 2009, 03:11:15 PM
Scott I noticed that you didn't stagger the joints in the long wall.  Was that just a personal preference? Are you going to use something to underpin the cabin?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 14, 2009, 06:32:21 PM
It's just the look I guess John. What do you mean by underpin?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on May 14, 2009, 09:01:36 PM
a foundation cover, like mobile home skirting 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 15, 2009, 03:37:57 AM
Not unless I find a problem with leaving it open. I do plan to wrap the concrete blocks with stone. The underside of the floor will be insulated and sheathed.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 15, 2009, 06:19:54 AM
That was going to be my suggestion.  If you really felt energetic you could frame between the post, tuck it back 1/3 the depth of your collumns and sheet. lathe and rock as well.  I have a simular problem at mine and I haven't decided what to do.  I already rocked the collumns. Again it depends on how energetic I feel. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 15, 2009, 10:27:32 AM
I got the expanded metal on the wall around the veranda door. As I understand it I need to put a 1/2" layer of mortar over this with groves scratched in it before I can install the stone veneer. I ordered the stone from Lowes today. They have it for 10% off this weekend. My order is due in by june 5.

Here is what we are using. http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=290588-86200-1022&lpage=none (http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=290588-86200-1022&lpage=none)

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Does this look alright John? Or do I need more nails?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 15, 2009, 11:48:33 AM
Scott just start at the bottom with 1/2 trowel (rectangle 4X8 or 4X10") loaded to the bottom edge. Holding at a 45 degree apply pressure and move up the wall until it runs out.  Get another load and start just a couple of inches below where it ran out and do it again.  Several tiimes in fact. ;D.  You just need to cover the lathe wire by 1/8"-3/16".  Just work it as you go up to make it fairly even.  When it dries you will probably start seeing the design of the lathe but don't get concerned.  When it cures out they will disappear.  Give it a couple of days and you are ready to lay the stone.

I normally start at the bottom.  Some of the stones may be a little contrary and not have enough surface to hold self supported.  Thats when a little sliver of scrap between the previous stone will hold.  Doesn't take too long to bond.  Then keep going.  By the time you may need another sliver just reach down and get the previous one you used. I have never had the need to scratch or rake the parge coat. Never had any bonding problems.  Most likely your parge coat will wick the moisture from the back of the stone mortar. 
If this happens (will not bond or falls off) then just use a spray bottle and either mist or get a paintbrush and moist the parge coat a little with water. I do about 2-3 feet above where I am laying and it is still moist by the time I get up to that point. 

Dry stack or ledge stone is one of the easiest to lay as it does not require spacing to tuck point a mortar joint.  Just bridge your stone so that you do not have the end of the stone breaking at the same place(vertically) .

As for the nails.  If you have the lathe tight thats what you are after.  I usually just tap in the middle of my nailing pattern and if it gives too much just drive another nail in the center.  You don't want alot of travel or when you parge and apply pressure it will release after you have passed over it and push away from the wall and let the mortar fall in behind the lathe.  Sometime you can't get all the bounce out but you can limit it and be OK. 

Did you find an angle grinder and diamond blade.  You will need them for both the verticle cuts and horizontal rips (above and below door).  Really the only place you will need to cut verticle is on one side or the other(door side or wall side) 

Good luck and if you need any help just send me a PM or post.   
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 15, 2009, 01:24:37 PM
Thanks for the help. I need all I can get.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Dog on May 17, 2009, 05:40:47 AM
Scott the siding came out so beautiful! That round window and the oriental wood carving really add a nice additional artistic flair.  [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on May 18, 2009, 12:43:13 PM
Can hardly wait to see the stone!   :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 29, 2009, 11:44:17 AM
I've been swamped with work lately but I finaly got it wraped up. I picked up the last little bit of stuff I needed to finish the water pipe under the house and should have that done this weekend and tested I hope. I'm hoping to put the scratch coat on the walls for the stone monday. The stone should be in some time next week. I'm also going to get the ditch dug for the electrical service and with luck get that done soon too. Once I have everything tested (power and water) I can start insulation. I'm only 6 months behind schedule.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 03, 2009, 02:14:31 AM
Scott it looks as if you got a little spam with your coffee this morning.  Let me know how the stone is coming. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 03, 2009, 03:16:19 AM
Spam is getting ever wierder.

So far I got it off the truck John. lol

I did manage to get the wall behind the stove scratch coated yesterday. Looking at the stone it seems it will be quite a puzzle.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Whitlock on June 03, 2009, 03:34:05 AM
Wow the place is looking nice [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 03, 2009, 02:30:28 PM
Scott don't be intimidated by it. Shoot it is just rocks. Just remember some of the basics I went over with you before and you will do fine.  Just remmeber two basic thoughts.  Cut cultured stone will show and don't let the joints fall on each other on every course to make it look natural. Bridge the joints of the previous course.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 03, 2009, 08:22:53 PM
It's harder than it looks John. I got a few courses done today. Not perfect but I think it will work. I think I'll do better tomorrow.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 04, 2009, 01:53:54 AM
OK get a picture up and lets take a look.  You don't have to wait until it is finished.  Just a little something I don't think I touched upon and that is to strike a level line every once in a while just to keep it fairly level.  You don't have to lay the stone on the line just use it as a guide.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 04, 2009, 12:15:12 PM
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Ok John here is what I have so far. I started out just laying straight courses yesterday but after I looked at it a bit last night I didn't really like it that well. So I looked at some pictures this morning and switched to jigsaw mode. I think jigsaw looks alot better but it takes longer to do. I can't belive this all i got done in 2 days.  :P

Hopefully I'll get quicker as the rock pile gets smaller I won't have so many to look through trying to find the right one. I put a 2x4 up on either side to keep my ends straight. They will be removed when I'm done with the wall, hopefully tomorrow. I'm going to Dallas for the weekend so I won't get started outside till tuesday.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 04, 2009, 12:34:49 PM
Scott looking good.  I thought you had the wall built already and was just laying them in between.  That is the inside isn't it?.  There are a lot of variations you can do but don't do too many standing up or the opposing grout or mortar joint will go several courses without a bridge.  You will get the hang of it when you get outside and show your talent. I assume that your flue goes verticle and not into a chimney.  I hope so or you covered the thimble up. ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 04, 2009, 12:41:20 PM
The flue goes straight up, yep.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 13, 2009, 10:22:04 AM
Scott hows the rock coming?  Wondered if you got any of that giant hail damage in Ok City that was on the news.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 14, 2009, 03:23:24 AM
I'm slow John. I finnished the wall behind the woodstove and about a third of the wall outside. Too many things to do this week. I hope to wrap it up this comming week. I did get the plumbing finnished and tested. Today I need a day off.  :P
I'll get some pics up when it's finnished.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 14, 2009, 03:35:53 AM
Scott it is just the learning curve.  By now you are probably more comfortable with the process and it appears less daunting than at the beginning.  I didn't ask about any recepticles or light boxes on the wall.  If you do have any light boxes for entry lights try to pick out uniform thickness stones in that area.  It will make the light mounting flanges fit closer to the wall and hang plumb.  Sorry if you are past that stage.  d* You can always use the 4-1/2" grinder w/diam blade to carve out to make it fit.  I finally got all my exterior carriage lights mounted.  Not that I am ready for them but they were in the way and I kept moving them around.  So now they are hung, out of the way and less chance to get broken.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 14, 2009, 04:05:00 AM
No light boxes etc. thank goodness. I think my biggest problem is trying to be too perfect with the fitting. Even with gaps the rock looks pretty good. That and too many distractions.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: csiebert on June 17, 2009, 05:24:03 PM
Yo Dude?  There are a bunch of us lurkers out here dying for the latest pictures!!
The suspense is killing me!  ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 18, 2009, 08:32:40 AM
Pics tomorrow. Maybe. I hope.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on June 18, 2009, 09:02:08 AM
That looks really good....you're giving me more ideas about my own place.....uh oh.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 18, 2009, 12:32:14 PM
Scott I forgot to mention that when you grout find yourself a Horsehair or natural bristle paint brush and after it has set just brush away the lines and excess to give you a nice finish.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 18, 2009, 12:46:13 PM
The stone is all up I just need to grout around the door in the morning then it's back to siding for a few days.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: markert2523 on June 19, 2009, 02:16:16 AM
Hey, ScottA

Seems like our siding source is out of siding.  Hopefully only temporary, but got me to thinking that I need to buy all the cedar boards I need at one time when I get around to my siding.  I would hate to get halfway in to the process and Lowes decides to change vendors for siding.

Was wondering what lengths you bought.  Did you stick to the 8' or get longer sticks?  Seems like the longer they are, the harder it is to get good ones.

Eric
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 19, 2009, 03:18:06 AM
I bought all different lengths depending on where they where going so as to reduce waste. Mostly 8s 10s and 12s. You might try a different store.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 19, 2009, 11:42:05 AM
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Stone work done for now. I'll do the piers at a later date when I have more time. I put the rest of the stone back in the boxes and stored them under the house for now. I started cutting the rest of the cedar siding today. I hope to have that done in a few days. I just need to do the last 2 small walls.

Sorry the pic looks washed out. The sun was really bright today.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on June 19, 2009, 01:04:21 PM
Good job Scott.  Be interesting to see how the cedar looks when it meets the stone.  Should contrast with it very well in comparison with the post .  Are you satisfied with the appearance?  Are you satisfied with the craftsmanship? Don't be too hard on your self.   Truthfully on a scale of 1-10 how difficult was it?  Overall I mean.  It was a 10 to begin with and about a 3 at the end.  ;)  Looks as good as most contractors.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 19, 2009, 01:24:00 PM
I think it looks good John. My wife loves it. It does make a nice contrast to the cedar. I'm glad you suggested it. I wouldn't say it was hard just time consuming. Lots of time spent figuring out how to fit the stones together, unpacking crates and scattering hundreds of stones out on the deck to look at etc. By the way, I didn't cut a single stone. I was able to find a fit for every hole. It helped that I had extra stone. I'm sure when I do the piers I'll need to cut a few though. I did sneak a few small natural rocks in to the wall as well. Can you spot them? the wife says they make it look more natural to the site. I picked this stone veneer because it's a close match to the native stone found in this area.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 24, 2009, 12:57:07 PM
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A little better pic of the veranda wall with part of the siding done.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on June 24, 2009, 04:46:44 PM
Looks great, Scott - you've done a wonderful job!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on June 24, 2009, 08:39:30 PM
Looks great, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: secordpd on June 25, 2009, 05:48:00 AM
Scott,     What a wonderful job along the edge where it meets the wood.  Your very talented.  Are the natural stones more grey?  I see a few that may be different..........  But I really love the wood/stone look, it so down to earth but elegant looking,  I'm envious....  

I'm itching to get going on my project, I just saw on the news  Boston only had 7 'mostly sunny days in 55 day!!!   I'm so sick of rain, the ground is soaked hopefully I can start digging the footings in a few days..... my water table is high here, and don't want to hit water 2 ft down, when I got to go 4'!!!     Helen
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on June 25, 2009, 08:07:40 PM
Looks good Scott.   :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on June 26, 2009, 05:05:52 AM
Classy is the word!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 27, 2009, 07:39:32 AM
Thanks for all the kind words.

I painted the round window this week with 2 coats of oil based enamel and started the siding on that wall. It will be slow due the tricky cuts envolved but my goal is to finish by the 4th.

After some debate and sugestions by friends in the business we've decided against using wood on the cieling. The opinion is it would make the interior too dark. Instead I will use 5/8" sheetrock with a hand textue to make it look like plaster and will be painted white.
 
The trusses will be stained a dark color.

The walls will be a combo of mahogany paneling with a 2' sheetrock border at the top and divided with trim pieces.

Cabinets will be birtch. Kitchen backsplash will be tile and countertops will be concrete possibly stained. I'll do some mockups to decide this. If you have a suggestion I'd love to hear it. Still undecided on the bathroom walls and cieling, the floor will be tile.

I couldn't make a round cieling work in the loft due to not enough headroom. Would have been nice but should have been planed sooner in the process. oh well.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Whitlock on June 27, 2009, 07:50:35 AM
Lookin good Scott I love the wood stone combo.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 29, 2009, 05:07:52 PM
I haven't discussed it much but I've been having adventures getting water. I thought I'd share so others who are building or planning to build can see some of the issues you might encounter.

First some background. our property fronts on 2 roads. One is a state hiway and the other is a county road. There are rural water mains on both roads. So far so good I should be able to get water no problem. Atleast thats what I thought when I started this project. Before I built anything I called the water company and asked about getting water. They said they where in the process of upgrading some lines in the area and could not give me a meter at that time but expected they would be able to in about a year. I figure thats ok since I'm planning on a 2 year build anyway.

A year and a half later they finaly tell me I can get a meter. I ask how much and the guy tells me $750. Great I said. But he tells me the septic must be in first so I put it in. I call again and tell him the septic is in and he says ok bring the check. I get to their office show him where I am on the map and he starts backpedding. I had told him exactly where I was on the phone and he said he knew where it was and no problem.

Well turns out the mains are both across the roads from our land. I knew this already and he had to know as well. Now all the sudden it's my problem to get across the road. No mention of this before. Well getting across the state hiway is a non-starter since they have so many regs it would take a lawyer, engineer, permits, reviews, meetings, tons of extra crap to protect the hiway etc. So that left the county road. All I need for this is a permit but it's on the far end of my property so I've got to run a long ways to get there. Anyway I've got a contractor coming in the AM to give me a bid to cross the county road. I'll do the rest myself. All this will cost close to half the price of the cabin. Fun.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: rick91351 on June 29, 2009, 05:45:27 PM
Scott is there any reason you can not get a permit for a well?  Seem cheaper than this hassle and hustle.  But then I am sure you thought of that already!

rlr 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 29, 2009, 06:07:19 PM
A well has always been an option however we would rather have the rural water. Also my brother is building a cabin next door and this line will also serve his house and I may build another cabin later on so it's for sure cheaper than drilling 2 or 3 wells. My brother will be paying about 40% of the cost of this so my cost will be about the same as a well when it's all said and done. I just think it's BS that the water company dumped the road crossing cost on me with no warning.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 02, 2009, 01:52:45 PM
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Siding finished, time to celebrate!  8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on July 02, 2009, 02:05:05 PM
Wow!  That looks gorgeous!   8)

Sorry to hear about all the hassles with the water... 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: diyfrank on July 02, 2009, 02:27:33 PM
Very sharp Scott.  Everything came together nicely.

Too bad they won't let you run your service yourself.
Any idea what type pipe is in used on the county road?
They will most likely pothole and holehog it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 02, 2009, 02:33:06 PM
I could do it myself but I don't do boring or road work so it's smarter to let someone who does do it. Wasn't as bad as I thought. Should be just over $4k for the whole job. I think someones hungry ATM.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on July 02, 2009, 02:45:09 PM
Turned out real nice.  Once you get the piers covered it should be finished on the exterior?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 02, 2009, 02:52:01 PM
Well lets see...rock the piers...deck fascia...rain gutters...does it ever end? All that will have to wait till after we move in. I got a deadline to meet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on July 02, 2009, 04:46:04 PM
Great that you got the water worked out halfway reasonable, Scott.  Cabin's looking great.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bobmarlon on July 13, 2009, 08:24:37 PM
Hey Scott siding and rock looks great and good luck with the water.

I was curious how deep the footings for your foundation were and if there was any advice you could give on the cinder block foundation.  I haven't seen it anywhere else on the site.   Is there any reason you chose it over piers. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 14, 2009, 03:19:26 AM
The footers vary from about 18-24" deep from the low side to the high side. The frost line here is less than 12". (You need to use a depth thats appropriate for your area.) Each pier has 2- 4' long steel pins driven into the ground like "x" under it as anchors. I used blocks because I mixed on site so they saved some work.  Seemed like a good way to do it to me. As for advice all I can say is make sure you get them all straight and level.

The water has cleared the first hurdle. The board approved the road crossing last night.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on July 14, 2009, 11:27:47 AM
Wow really looks great Scott! Your place is one of my all time favorites, I check in once in a while to check out the progress. Glad you got the water deal worked out!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 24, 2009, 11:42:05 AM
Cieling got rocked this week. I'm working on the walls now. I guess that means it was insulated too, doh. Anyways it's getting hot again after a week break in the weather. I forgot the camera so no pics. Besides it's too messy for pics atm. I'll be working on cleaning up a bit this weekend. 5 months to the deadline.  [scared]

Oh I forgot to mention a lady came by the other day and she wants to clone my cabin. She asked me if I could be available for consulting. Now I just need to figure out how much to charge for that.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on July 24, 2009, 02:49:07 PM
Cieling got rocked this week. 

 ??? [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 24, 2009, 02:55:45 PM
Sheetrocked
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on July 24, 2009, 03:01:04 PM
I thought at much after I posted.  You were laying rock but this would have been a new one on me.   d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 04, 2009, 11:29:26 AM
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Tilecrete sub base for the shower liner.

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Shower liner installed. Note the mildew resistant drywall in the bathroom. The shower walls get Densguard. http://www.gp.com/BUILD/product.aspx?pid=6388 (http://www.gp.com/BUILD/product.aspx?pid=6388).

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Cieling drywall.

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Flue for the woodstove.



Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 04, 2009, 11:34:27 AM
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I put walk planks across the scissors to install the drywall. All the drywall is installed now. I need to finish the osb substrate for the paneling on the walls this week. Next week I'll mud and tape the drywall. Getting very busy around deer run.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 04, 2009, 03:01:24 PM
But you can now see the progress when it gets busy.  What are your plans for wraping the scissors? 1 X material?  Thats alot of intersections to deal with.  And of course it wouldn't end up with convientional sizes would it .  Just curious Scott what is with the boxing around the flue pipe at the ceiling?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 04, 2009, 03:20:44 PM
I'm not going to wrap them with anything. They will get sanded stained a dark color and call it good. I have faith it will look fine.

I'm not sure what you mean about the flue. The flat cieling above the window is to deflect light back down into the room. I know I'm wierd but it works.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 04, 2009, 03:29:20 PM
I guess that is what I was looking at.  It looks to be about 4-5' long from the window.  I thought you might put a 1X at least to cover the  three layers of 2X material on it's face to make it look more of a beam than rafter. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 04, 2009, 03:45:36 PM
It's hard to tell from the pics but the top of that vault is 17' off the floor.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on August 06, 2009, 03:56:06 PM
There's a lot of labor in that sheetrock. Looking fine; glad it was not my ceiling.  ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 09, 2009, 06:52:07 AM
I'm not going to wrap them with anything. They will get sanded stained a dark color and call it good. I have faith it will look fine.

I'm not sure what you mean about the flue. The flat cieling above the window is to deflect light back down into the room. I know I'm wierd but it works.

There is a restaurant near here with exposed scissors - they look fine - and interesting I think.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on August 09, 2009, 01:16:30 PM
Scott, I'm really proud for you and I feel your pain for all the hard work.  Oklahoma's weather is very unforgiving and we're prisoners when its ice everywhere and in the summer, 103 in the shade.  I just finished reading your entire thread from beginning to end and now making my reply.  Like I said above, really proud for you.  Gives me encouragement too because I just started my lake cabin and will start a thread in a few days.

I'm on Lake Eufaula and I'm looking forward to sharing my building experience as you have.  Very informative to read and see, gives ideas and inspiration.  Thanks for taking the time for pics and narration as you have progressed from some cinder blocks in the ground to a beautiful cabin tucked away in the trees! ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 09, 2009, 01:30:24 PM
Thanks TexastarJim. It's been and still is an adventure. Eufala is a nice area and not all that far from here.

My son and I did the drywall in 3 days Don. Then it took me 3 days to recover.  :P

The wife and I went and picked up the tile for the shower Saturday. My tile man / best friend thinks he will get to it this week since he's slow. I finnished up the walls downstairs and will start closing up in the loft in the AM. Still mucho hot around here. Should be fun working up their so I got a new fan as well to help move the air around.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on August 28, 2009, 11:41:30 AM
Any updates on the tile work Scott? Can't wait to see how it turns out!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 28, 2009, 01:34:57 PM
He got started on the tile for the shower (maybe 2/3 done) but had to stop due to a big job starting up. It's going to look nice. It's a little fancy is all I can say for now. Hopefully he'll get back on it soon.

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Here's a pic of the shower with the densguard in place. I haven't taken any pics of the tile yet.

In other news. I finnished sanding the cieling and started cleaning up the mess today. Hopefully my shop vac holds out so I can get it all cleaned up tomorrow. With any luck I'll get it primed next week.

I started insulating the floor part time as considerations suggested (maybe 1/3 done) .

Also I got everything in place (permits, contracts, etc,) for the water to be installed in 2 weeks if there are no further delays.

The weather is finaly cooling off so things should speed up again.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on August 28, 2009, 01:52:51 PM
I'll be watching for the fancy tile.  :)  No matter what you do it's going to be fancier than our planned plain vanilla walls.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: markert2523 on August 29, 2009, 03:53:23 AM
Hey Scott,

I started insulating the floor part time as considerations suggested (maybe 1/3 done) .

I looked back into the thread but don't see what Considerations suggested.  How are you insulating the floor?  I'm kind of thinking of insulating my manshed floor before I deploy since it will be the dead of winter when I get back and it will likely be easier to insulate it now. 

Eric
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 29, 2009, 04:01:40 AM
Eric she suggested I do it only a couple of hours at a time and take pain killers before I start.

I'm using 6 1/4" Fiberglass batts installed with the paper side up. I'm using nylon string stapled across the joists to keep it from falling out until I get the bottom skin on.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on August 29, 2009, 11:56:16 AM
Eric she suggested I do it only a couple of hours at a time and take pain killers before I start.

I'm using 6 1/4" Fiberglass batts installed with the paper side up. I'm using nylon string stapled across the joists to keep it from falling out until I get the bottom skin on.

You know, up until now, I've debated with myself on whether to insulate my floor now or later.  I think the prudent move is to insulate now, nap later.  Even with my more than adequate crawl space, it would be a chore to do it from beneath.  It will be so much easier to install the insulation from above, then deck over the top. 

Thanks for convincing me Scott and you didn't even realize you were.  Great thing about this forum, reading and seeing what others are doing can help observer. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on August 29, 2009, 04:08:33 PM
From Floor, descending:

2 x 6 T&G
R22 Roxul bats
Bird netting stapled to floor joists to hold the Roxul against the bottom of the floor.
Air space
Tyvek stapled to bottom of floor joists, covering the whole bottom of the house
1/4" hardware cloth stapled to the bottom of the floor joists to keep kritters out of the tyvek and the spaces above.
moisture barrier on the ground under the house.

Then around the house; pressure treated plywood on a 2 x 4 frame as "skirting".....vented somewhere.

I don't have to worry about the venting yet, I only have 3 pieces  of plywood in place so far.   :-\
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 29, 2009, 05:30:13 PM
TexastarJim if you can keep it dry do it now. Much easier.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 01, 2009, 04:50:58 PM
I ordered the woodstove today. It's a Jotul 602. Should be in by the end of the week.

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This stove qualifys for the tax credit I found out today so we'll get some of our money back from Obama Fed Inc.

My tile man is comming back tomorrow. He should get the wall tile finished. I'll try to get a pic.

I started priming the cieling. Hope to have that done tomorrow as well.

Can anyone suggest a good nailer for cabinet building? I need to get one this weekend.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on September 01, 2009, 05:02:15 PM
Scott, about 3 years ago I fell off into a bargain at Home Depot and was able to buy the compressor with 3 different guns for less than $250.  Since then, I've seen them do this on a regular occasion.  Portor Cable equipment, been really satisfied with all of them.

Wood stove sure does look inviting and cozy.  ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on September 01, 2009, 05:03:01 PM
Scott,
Where did you order the woodstove from and can I ask what price you got on it?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 01, 2009, 05:09:14 PM
Scott did you order the black finish or did you go preppy with us.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 01, 2009, 05:15:36 PM
I ordered the stove from our local dealer. The price is $967 + tax. I will get a 30% tax credit from that so about $300. So after the credit the price will be about $700. John it's black just like the one in the pic.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on September 01, 2009, 07:57:27 PM
The Jotul is a nice stove. I was on our short list along with a Morso.

Are you doing the chimney out the back or the top?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 02, 2009, 07:56:09 AM
Chimney goes out the top.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MikeOnBike on September 02, 2009, 08:21:52 AM
I have been very pleased with my Porter Cable BN200 brad nailer.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 02, 2009, 09:45:54 AM
You will probably have more leadway with the clearence against the wall with it coming out of the top.   
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 02, 2009, 12:11:07 PM
Wood stove guy called today said the stove probly won't be in till next week due to something or other.
A friend of mine also recommended Porter Cable. That's probly what I'l get.
Tile man was here all day. I got the cieling primed today but no pics. I never got that far.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on September 02, 2009, 03:51:17 PM
You know, with the increased use of wood stoves across the country, I figure it won't be all that long before the environmentalists and tree-huggers cry foul.  Al Gore and his bunch will say all the wood stoves are depleting the ozone and causing global warming at an accelerated rate. 

I plan on using one in my new cabin.  If someday they start crying about all of us using them, I'll take up a collection and send em all a big box of tissues. d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 02, 2009, 04:04:17 PM
Yep, I figure that will happen too. So I bought an EPA aproved stove just in case even though it's not required here. Besides it's more efficent. At the moment though the government is promoting wood stove use by giving tax credits.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 02, 2009, 04:09:50 PM
There are some states already who have imposed a different set of rules to govern wood stoves.  Thank God WV isn't one of them.  Shoot alot of Coal furnaces here so that will keep them busy before they get to the wood stoves.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on September 02, 2009, 05:36:17 PM
I for one do not have a problem with EPA certified wood burning stoves being made mandatory for all new installations.


We (the country as a whole, that is) have made huge strides in generally cleaning up the air we breath. It's been mainly a combination of automobile and industrial cleaning up, but the old wood burning stoves contributed to dirty air as well. It would be a shame to have the air returned to  increase in the numbers of older style less efficient dirty burning wood stoves pre mid-1980's. Not only are the newer stoves cleaner burning they use less wood. The cleaner burn results in cleaner chimneys meaning fewer chimney cleanings are required. Fewer chimney fires are reported in homes using the newer stoves. In places like neighboring Albuquerque where they have no burn days, EPA certified stoves are exempt from the ban. That's a federal law.

You can still install new wood burning stoves that do not meet the EPA regs, as long as they have a firebox larger than 20 cu ft and weigh more than 1760 pounds.   ;D

FWIW, WA state has stricter emission requirements, 4.5 grams per hour instead of 7.5 grams per hour (non-catalytic types).  Many of the wood burning stoves on the market meet those regs already.

Some of the new stoves are incredibly clean burning. The VC Defiant Encore (current model) is rated at 0.60 grams per hour!

I am glad there's no coal burning that I know of around here. Coal smoke can be nasty.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 02, 2009, 05:49:43 PM
I agree with the coal. Fortuneately this is one county on the state of 55 that does not have a mine in it.  On either side do.  There are a few buildings in town that still have a coal fired boiler and you can tell right away.  They have coal delivered from the other counties.  In fact that is the only sorce of air pollution  we have here.  Most of the industry here is timber, tourism or agricultural.  Oh I am mistaken.  There is a State Park in Cass that runs a coal fired tourism train ( Shay Engine) up the mountain a couple times a day during the summer. Talk about coal smoke.

There are even some stove manufacturers that make a regular stove with less emissions than one with a catalytic converter.  Mine does not have but it is set up to burn the gas off again and produces very little smoke.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 03, 2009, 12:39:26 PM
The coal smoke from the shay's is ok with me. I rode that train a few years ago. Fun!  :)

Early unfinished shower pics.

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Shower floor tile and grout tomorrow with luck.

Ceiling primed and ready for 1st coat of paint tomorrow.

Everywhere you see osb will be woodwork eventualy.

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I talked to my water contractor today and he has set the 14th as a firm date to do the road boring.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on September 03, 2009, 12:53:03 PM
Looks great Scott.  Grouting tile on the ceiling is tons of fun  d*.  How did you solve the problem of the tile board not being straight anymore once it comes down over the extra thickness of the membrane?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on September 03, 2009, 12:58:16 PM
Yes sir!  :) 
looking nice.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 03, 2009, 01:01:36 PM
Quote
How did you solve the problem of the tile board not being straight anymore once it comes down over the extra thickness of the membrane?

I hired someone else to figure it out. No problem.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Arizona Highlander on September 03, 2009, 01:05:37 PM
Great job Scott!
Man have you made your vision a reality.
Love the siding and the clean look.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 03, 2009, 01:26:16 PM
Looks good Scott.  Is the floor tile in the shower the same or smaller?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 03, 2009, 01:44:24 PM
Thanks All.

John, it's smaller. It's the same as the little tiles in the decorative band.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 04, 2009, 11:38:52 AM
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Before

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Shower tile is finnished. Just needs cleaned, sealed and trim installed.

Put the first coat of paint on the cieling today. I'll try to do the second coat Sunday or Monday. Saturday is clean up day at Deer run.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on September 04, 2009, 12:31:46 PM
Looks really nice - looks like you're getting close to moving in?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 04, 2009, 01:05:09 PM
We're shooting for December Sassy. Still lots to get done yet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on September 08, 2009, 09:30:40 AM
Everything is sure looking nice Scott, proud for you.  I'm looking forward to seeing the day you're moved in and enjoying the fruits of your labor.  Keep this post updated as you can so we can all be encouraged by your progress. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 08, 2009, 11:37:18 AM
Thanks Jim.

I finnished painting the ceiling and removed all the masking. I started getting the beams preped for stain today. The ceiling paint is still to soft (due to high humidity) to mask off for staining. I may need to wait a couple more days. We'll see. I washed the deck over the weekend. As soon as the weather is right I'm going to put a second coat of stain on it. I'm hoping by the end of this month.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bishopknight on September 08, 2009, 11:43:58 AM
Ya, excellent job on the shower Scott. Pro job.  ;D

I'm going to do a similar design in my shower like you did.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 08, 2009, 11:45:20 AM
Scott how did the "rock" look against the other Rock behind the stove? 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 08, 2009, 11:56:21 AM
No sheetrock on the rock wall. The stone will be trimmed out with woodwork. Stay tuned
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 11, 2009, 02:03:24 PM
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Ceiling painted and scissors finished. The poly is still wet so it's a little bit shiny. I just need to caulk around where the wood meets the drywall and the high ceiling will be done.

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Here's the little jotul stove assembled and ready to install. I took the cookplate out to make it easier to handle. It's very heavy.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 11, 2009, 02:17:40 PM
Turning out nice Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: poppy on September 11, 2009, 03:10:19 PM
The scissor truss looks great and is a nice strong feature.  8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on September 13, 2009, 12:29:18 PM
It's surprising how much one of those little stoves can weigh.  :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 13, 2009, 01:15:57 PM
With my Hearthstone the demensions are 28WX24DX28H(inc 4" leg) and the weight is 550#. 

Scott be careful since it is a new stove to break in the cast iron gradually.   I think they refer to it as "seasoning".  Otherwise it will cause the casting to crack.  Normally they recommend 3 small firings to heat up the stove but not too hot to touch.  Allow the stove to burn down and regain the room temperature between the firings.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 13, 2009, 03:28:39 PM
The manual recommends 5 firings each a little bigger than the last for break in. I think it weighs close to 200 lbs. The inner cast plates and the cook plate are removable so this helps make it easier to move.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on September 13, 2009, 04:06:29 PM
Beautiful stove Scott, glad you're gonna break it in right.  I've had my eye on some stoves made with soap stone and I sure would like to have one of them.  They're really expensive and nice to look at, but the lasting effects of the gradual heat release of the soapstone sure makes em nice.  I'll have to wait until my house is finished before making a decision to spend over $2K on one of these little beauties.  

I'm leaning towards buying one just like yours since I've seen how nice they are.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 25, 2009, 01:02:09 PM
Not much to show for the last couple of weeks but I have been busy. The wood stove is installed and tested. Floor insulation is at about 65% now. Somehow I dread doing it but I manage to get energized once in a while. I did the drywall finishing in the bathroom. Should have it ready to paint on monday. All the walls are closed up now. I started sanding the loft ladder. Did the first pass with 80 grit. I'll go over it again with 120 before I stain it. It won't stop raining so I haven't got to the deck yet. I really hope we get a dry spell before it gets cold. The electrical service is going in next week hopefuly. Still no water do to all the rain but next week looks promising.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 29, 2009, 10:41:12 AM
New pics.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 30, 2009, 12:31:05 PM
We had a fire in the stove last night.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 30, 2009, 12:38:16 PM
AND  [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 30, 2009, 01:18:38 PM
It was our Anniversary. You figure it out.  8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on September 30, 2009, 01:21:21 PM
It was our Anniversary.

Congrats! What one? This coming Friday marks our 32nd.   8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on September 30, 2009, 01:32:37 PM
I was inquiring how it worked. But in lieu of the reply I need not go any further.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 30, 2009, 03:38:48 PM
Sorry I can be a smarta$$ sometimes. Stove works good. Excellent draw on the 19' flue.

Don this was our 4th. This is my second time around.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on September 30, 2009, 04:33:55 PM
Happy 4, and wishes for the happy ones to outnumber the others.   :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on October 01, 2009, 07:08:39 PM
Congratulations!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 06, 2009, 12:55:10 PM
Drilling for water...sideways. Found water 200' away 3' deep.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 06, 2009, 02:23:23 PM
Well after nearly 2 years we finaly got water to the property. I hired a crew to drill under the hiway to the water main on the other side. They showed up with over a half million dollars worth of equipment and got the job done in 6 hours. Worked out to about $500 an hour not counting material. I still need to connect the water to the cabin but that will be easy after this fiasco.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on October 06, 2009, 02:29:37 PM
Cheaper than wells I know about around here.    ;D


How deep under the road?

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 06, 2009, 02:37:15 PM
It's about 7' deep at the center of the road. The rig they have is really cool. They can steer it underground.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on October 06, 2009, 02:44:05 PM
That would be cool to see.   :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on October 07, 2009, 01:18:04 PM
Hey Scott, congrats on getting your water line going.  Thanks for sharing the photos too, very interesting stuff. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: diyfrank on October 07, 2009, 03:53:28 PM
Thats a pretty slick machine they have.
When we bore we have to prep a hole large enough for the machine to sit in at the desired depth.
Glad to see you got it over to your place. Sounds like they treated you right.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 08, 2009, 07:10:12 PM
That's great, Scott.  Glad you finally got water.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 09, 2009, 08:02:03 AM
Thanks guys. I'm going to pick up the wire for the electrical service today. By monday I won't need to run a cord to the pole anymore.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 12, 2009, 04:15:13 PM
I got the permanent power hooked up today. This is a real milestone (the second in a week) for us. It's so nice to just walk in and flick on a switch instead of the daily ritual of stringing out extension cords. The service is #4 copper in conduit underground. It connects to a sub-pannel on the pole with a 100 amp breaker. I'm picking up the mahogany paneling tomorrow.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on October 12, 2009, 04:33:39 PM
It's so nice to just walk in and flick on a switch .....

 :) :) :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 22, 2009, 11:39:07 AM
Some new pics.

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Fall is in full swing.

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My work area today. Kinda messy.

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Making progress on the paneling.

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Office corner where the desk will go.

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Looking up into the loft.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 22, 2009, 11:43:29 AM
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Ship's ladder finished.

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More paneling in the living room area.

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Storage loft.

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Bed area in the loft.

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Other end of the bed area.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 22, 2009, 11:45:45 AM
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Cat who runs our house (Snowy) and me the cat bed at home in front of the computer.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 22, 2009, 12:17:57 PM
Finally a face to go with the name.  Looks like you are making very good progress.  At that rate you will make your deadline.  What are your plans on finishing the paneling.

For me I am still at the will and pleasure of my plumber.  He showed up last night and worked until 11:30 running the main 3/4" gas line.  Suppose (?) to show back up friday night to run the 1/2" drops and drip tubes and will finish it up except the flex line to the individual appliances.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on October 22, 2009, 12:32:58 PM
"Finally a face to go with the name." - Well who's that guy in the avatar/picture?  (just joking)

It all looks really good Scott and all your hard work is paying off.  I really enjoy viewing the pictures, so keep them coming please.  Scott, do you realize that there has been almost 60,000 views of your thread?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 22, 2009, 12:35:08 PM
I'll sand it next week then apply minwax stain. I did a test piece yesterday to see how it looks. I don't think I'll mess with laquer. It looks fine with just the stain. I will put poly on any trim pieces that will be subject to frequent touching. The paneling should be done by saturday. With luck I'll have it all stained by halloween. Next step will be cabnets.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bobmarlon on October 22, 2009, 04:05:46 PM
looking good scott, is that all mahogany wood paneling?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 22, 2009, 05:16:17 PM
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looking good scott, is that all mahogany wood paneling?

Yes, it cost $11 a sheet, it's 1/8" thick.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on October 22, 2009, 06:20:03 PM
Thank for the pix, Scott.  You are making great progress and electricity too... :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: RainDog on October 23, 2009, 04:49:37 AM

 That paneling looks really great.

 I've gone over this thread a few times. Still haven't decided whether I'm inspired or just jealous.

 Oh, wait wait. It's not all about me, is it? I keep forgetting that.  :)

 Seriously, your cabin looks fantastic. Really something to take pride in. Thanks for all the photos, too.

 Good show!
 Parks
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on October 29, 2009, 08:29:34 PM
Scott, the weather appears to improving and according to weather.com, the next 10 days call for sunshine.  Even if half those days are sunny, it will give us a chance to get more work done.  I think you're mostly done on the outside, but damp weather still effects your place unless you've finished with everything that needs low humidity to dry and/or cure?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on October 30, 2009, 02:23:49 AM
Don't believe 'em Jim!  They've teased us before with 10 days of sun and it always changes!  ;D
Actually I do feel good about the next ten days as weather.gov concurs with weather.com.  Hopefully there's strength in numbers.
I'm afraid that after I get the roof on the mother of all droughts will start!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 30, 2009, 03:09:24 AM
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I'm afraid that after I get the roof on the mother of all droughts will start!

You know it will. Has it stopped raining since you started framing?

I got most of my outside work done. I managed to get the deck stain on last weekend during a 3 day dry spell. I still need to hook the water up to the cabin and paint the front door. Worst part about the rain is it's so dark and gloomy.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 01, 2009, 06:37:29 PM
and wet.  [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 09, 2009, 12:47:53 PM
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My first attempt at a faux wood finish (window). In other news...all the paneling is stained, the front door is painted and I'm starting on cabinets.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on November 18, 2009, 12:04:04 PM
do you have any trim detail planned for the seams and edges of the paneling?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 18, 2009, 03:34:41 PM
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do you have any trim detail planned for the seams and edges of the paneling?

You need to ask? Yep lots of trim. I'm guestimating about $500 worth.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on November 19, 2009, 12:11:38 AM
that sure is a pretty window!    8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on November 19, 2009, 05:11:46 PM
Everything is looking great Scott, you're doing a great job and its going to be a beauty when you're finished. [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 20, 2009, 09:08:25 AM
Upper kitchen cabinets progress.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: devildog on November 20, 2009, 08:08:07 PM
ScottA, Those cabinets look great! Id like to build my own to save money and its something I could do over winter while waiting for it to warm up. Is there a website or book you used to help you ,or is it your own knowledge? are they made using plywood?
Darrell
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 20, 2009, 08:19:40 PM
I built the cabinets from memory from others I've looked at. Just kinda made it up as I went along. These are made from white pine. The base cabinets will be birch plywood with white pine faces.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on November 20, 2009, 08:32:46 PM
Nice cabinets, Scott.  My favorite - solid wood.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on November 21, 2009, 05:51:17 AM
Cabinets are going to be absolutely beautiful when you're finished Scott.  Excellent job!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 30, 2009, 01:29:39 PM
Thanks for the kind words guys.

New pics of the base cabinets.

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Laundry cabinet.

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I'm going to finish these before I do the countertops.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on November 30, 2009, 01:41:57 PM
Dang! Scott's even got the telephone in there.    ;)


Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on November 30, 2009, 02:04:13 PM
I'm very curious about the OSB inside the house -- I've never seen that before.  ???
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on November 30, 2009, 02:09:03 PM
I'm very curious about the OSB inside the house -- I've never seen that before.  ???

That's because it's always hidden under something else.  ;)  Ya' never see it on the outside either, or at least you shouldn't.    :o

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 30, 2009, 02:19:01 PM
Looking good Scott.  What are your plans on the countertop and backsplash? 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on November 30, 2009, 02:36:39 PM
I'm very curious about the OSB inside the house -- I've never seen that before.  ???

That's because it's always hidden under something else.  ;)  Ya' never see it on the outside either, or at least you shouldn't.    :o



As a former builder (framer and human backhoe) I mean I really have never seen that before.  From the ground up builds etc etc....just was wondering about it.  I've noticed others doing it too.

Of course if you go back over 50 years it was common to have walls that had more materials in them and were thicker/stronger then today's (I know 'cause it was hard to tear some of them apart when I was in the reno biz) but it got me thinking.

Anyway, we dry-walled to the studs over vapor barrier in our addition and in the cabin I plan to go with my interior the same way.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on November 30, 2009, 02:54:05 PM
Scott had his reasons which I can not recall, but they seemed reasonable at the time.  I'm certain he'll set us both straight and get us in line.  :-[  Me anyways.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on November 30, 2009, 04:11:47 PM
I thought it was because he is laying that thin veneer over everything inside.  Mahogany?  Can't remember, but maybe its for something else? d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 30, 2009, 06:58:07 PM
The OSB is a backer for the mahogany veneer. The countertop will be stained concrete and the backsplash tile.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 30, 2009, 07:15:21 PM
Scott I have some sites on concrete countertops that might help if you haven't gotten any reference material. Let me know and I will PM them to you.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 30, 2009, 07:23:50 PM
I can use all the info I can get John. Thanks.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on November 30, 2009, 07:51:41 PM
John, why don't you post the links you have, under a new topic maybe?

I thought he just had to nail together some 2x4 form's and call a transit mixer.   [crz]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 01, 2009, 09:15:31 AM
Here's the links for concrete counter tops John sent me.

http://www.concreteexchange.com/products_books.jsp

http://www.buddyrhodes.com/

http://www.kemiko.com/

http://www.concretenetwork.com/

http://www.concretenetwork.com/suppliers/countertop-tools/usa-and-canada/
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on December 01, 2009, 10:01:07 AM
The OSB is a backer for the mahogany veneer. The countertop will be stained concrete and the backsplash tile.

Interesting -- and makes sense.

Funny though how you don't normally think of it for that (ok I don't) but why not?  Did you use 7/16? or thinner?  Just curious becuase that might make a good backing for fire rock hearths?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 01, 2009, 12:49:42 PM
I used 7/16". It's as cheap or cheaper than sheetrock and pretty easy to install. It also makes it easy to attch stuff like shelfs and cabinets to the wall. The way this house is there are shelfs and cabinets on just about every wall. The veneer stone wall behind my woodstove is attached to OSB covered with wire mesh and mortar.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on December 01, 2009, 04:44:32 PM
not to rush you, but when do we get to see the trim details with that paneling?  My wife was looking over my shoulder, and saw the pics of your yet-to-be-completed cabinets and said, "I thought Bruce Willis would have real fancy cabinetry."  She's always commenting about your profile photo.  Looks good...I'm waiting...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 01, 2009, 06:40:45 PM
I don't know if Bruce is into fancy cabinets or not. My wife said this was what she wanted so I make it so. So far I think the choices on this project have worked pretty well. The whole thing just evolves from day to day. As for when..soon I should think.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on December 02, 2009, 08:42:27 AM
don't get me wrong, I think you are doing a great job.  I just thought DW's comment was funny.  Basically like "he's so rich, you'd think he'd have exotic hardwood cabinets, and someone else building them.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 03, 2009, 01:41:25 PM
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Kitchen window details. Small shelfs flanking the window.

The cabinets are sanded and ready to stain tomorrow. We'll see how the little wood stove does in 40 degree weather with the windows open.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 03, 2009, 03:00:58 PM
Getting there slowly but surely.  Now the tedious part. Doors?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Mike 870 on December 04, 2009, 05:14:58 AM
That looks awesome.  I really like the way you did that.  The recessed light will add a great touch too.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 04, 2009, 05:20:37 PM
not to rush you, but when do we get to see the trim details with that paneling?  My wife was looking over my shoulder, and saw the pics of your yet-to-be-completed cabinets and said, "I thought Bruce Willis would have real fancy cabinetry."  She's always commenting about your profile photo.  Looks good...I'm waiting...

Pine is fancy cabinetry... real wood. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on December 05, 2009, 06:19:32 AM
Wow Scott, be careful, you'll have us all packing to move in with you.  The cabinetry is looking sweet!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 15, 2009, 04:12:38 AM
OK Scott the suspense is killing us.  I know you have sneaking in to finish the cabinets. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 15, 2009, 04:34:34 AM
It's a slow process John. I've been badly side tracked the past few days as well. Sorry to say I won't make the deadline. Drawer guides are in. Cabinets are stained but not finnished yet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on December 15, 2009, 08:31:45 AM
Hey Scott, it looks like you got a promotion.  You are a STICKY!!!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Abbynrml on December 15, 2009, 08:45:13 AM
Maybe he just spilled the wood glue???
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 15, 2009, 09:45:39 AM
Oh great. It's not like I don't already have enough pressure to finish this cabin.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on December 15, 2009, 11:16:02 AM
Oh great. It's not like I don't already have enough pressure to finish this cabin.  d*
It's a popularity contest man! A popularity contest!!!!   :-\
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 15, 2009, 11:27:02 AM
And who said you couldn't move up in this world. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 15, 2009, 06:43:14 PM
I want to see how the backhoe view window is coming along..... [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 24, 2009, 11:14:05 AM
Merry Christmas all.

Quick update. I've been tied up on other jobs the past couple of weeks so not much progress at deer run. The concrete countertops are poured. I hope to get the forms stripped off this weekend. We are expecting alot of snow tonight so I don't know how much I'll be able to do but we'll see. The floors should start going in next week. The schedule is clear at the moment so maybe more real progress soon.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MaineRhino on December 24, 2009, 12:36:59 PM
Looking forward to the pics of the countertop. I won't get to work at my camp until April!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 25, 2009, 10:25:23 AM
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I managed to get over to deer run and back. Only got stuck 3 times.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: poppy on December 26, 2009, 10:08:16 AM
Nice winter shot of your cabin.

So now that you have poured the concrete counter top, would you do it again?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: devildog on December 26, 2009, 10:34:50 AM
ScottA, I think your countertops look great. This is something I have interest in myself, and was wonderingif you could give us pros and cons on doing it yourself. And I know its alot to ask,but maybe a quick tutorial on how you did yours.
thanks Darrell
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 27, 2009, 05:00:27 AM
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So now that you have poured the concrete counter top, would you do it again?

I don't know yet poppy. The concrete has not cured fully yet so I can see how hard it will be for polishing. I'll let you know how it turns out. The price is right though. I spent about $20 on concrete and used left over expanded metal from my stone projects.

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ScottA, I think your countertops look great. This is something I have interest in myself, and was wonderingif you could give us pros and cons on doing it yourself. And I know its alot to ask,but maybe a quick tutorial on how you did yours.

Thanks. The pros are low cost and durablility. Add to that the thermal mass the concrete adds to the house (this was one of my main goals). The cons are it is hard work and it's messy. I hate to do tutorials because I'd hate to be responsible if someone elses job didn't turn out the way they wanted. But basicly you build a form on top of the counter. Tape the seams on the bottom to prevent leakage. Mix your mud (I used floor mix) very dry. I'd suggest pouring a test piece with the mix you're going to use to proof it will work OK. I put expanded metal inside my concrete as it was poured to reinforce it. Pack the mud down as it's poured and vibrate the whole works using a sander from below and along the sides of the forms. Let it cure for a couple of days before you strip the forms on the sides. If you do an overhang in the front like I did wait a week before removing the supports from below. I used a 2x4 along the front edge to support the overhang. You can see it still held in place by clamps.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 27, 2009, 05:07:19 AM
I forgot to mention I rounded over the front edge using a special tool I bought. You run it along inside the form after the mix starts to firm up. It leaves a line on the front edge that I just scraped off with a putty knife after I removed the forms.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: devildog on December 27, 2009, 03:27:27 PM
Thanks ScottA, the type of concrete you used was one of the things I was curious about. you said in few sentences,with clarity and to the point where the internet DYI's seem confusing and keep you wondering. I do think Im going to give it a shot.
Darrell
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Whitlock on December 29, 2009, 04:35:50 PM
Cool idea!!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 01, 2010, 01:19:01 PM
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Loft floor. This is a trial run on the plank floor. The floor is stained but has no poly finish yet. Over the next couple of days I'll plug the nail holes and put the first coat of poly on. We'll see how this turns out before doing anymore of the floors.

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Densguard is down ready for tile. We plan to go pick up the tile tomorrow if we don't get snowed in again. We had planed to get it last weekend but the roads where too iced up.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 01, 2010, 03:33:44 PM
Scott from what I can see you will have a small triangular section of tile in front of the door.  What are your plans for the remaining floor adjacent.

I am like you as I need a few things but the weather has been real crappy for us as well.  It really doesn't look that much better in the immediate future.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 01, 2010, 03:43:50 PM
To the left is the closet. I'm picking up the door tomorrow as well. The closet will have drawers built in the bottom so the floor won't show there. In front of this area will be wood flooring. I just watched the weather and the snow should hold off till tomorrow night so we should be able to get to Tulsa in the morning without a problem.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: speedfunk on January 03, 2010, 06:33:33 PM
yeah this weather :(  not good for anybody to get stuff done.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 07, 2010, 01:42:34 PM
No kidding. We've had -0 wind chills all day today. The good news is the woodstove at deer run keeps the place nice and toasty.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: EcoHeliGuy on January 07, 2010, 02:39:59 PM
I'm fixing helicopters at -40 (not counting wind chill) and the helicopters are blowing wind down my winter gear   :(
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 07, 2010, 02:44:22 PM
Are you in Fairbanks by any chance? I have a freind there that works on choppers for the Army.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: EcoHeliGuy on January 07, 2010, 02:55:55 PM
Just out side of baker lake, Nunavut, western shore of the Hudson bay
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on January 09, 2010, 06:04:23 PM
"Nunavut, western shore of the Hudson bay"

That's cold. I promise I won't complain about the cold here again.

Scott, the thermal mass?  The counter top alone can make an appreciable difference?  I'm interested in this concept.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 10, 2010, 04:22:30 AM
It's not just the countertop but everything you put inside the house. Heavy dense materials tend to store heat best. They act like a battery. The biggest problem with woodstoves is the tempature swings. Mass helps soak up the heat when the stove is firing and then releases it after the fire dies down. This moderates the tempature swings. It also seems to have made the house quieter. Not sure why.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 10, 2010, 05:02:56 AM
I think you will like the floor, Scott.  The mall in Fresno protected their stamped concrete with oil base polyurethane so it should hold up well.

From what I have read on the product, it has to be gloss or semi-gloss.  The satin does not have the hardeners for floor use.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 10, 2010, 07:36:29 AM
Actually Mimwax recently came out with  new products for floors.  Might have some extra harders in them. 

Scott that is the principle of the soapstone stoves.  Well after the fire dies down or out it can generate alot of heat stored in the stone for several hours later.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 10, 2010, 07:44:05 AM
I put 1 coat of semi-gloss oil based polyurethane on the floor last weekend. The can says to put 3 coats on floors but I'll wait and do the other coats later. I think it looks pretty good so far. No warping or cracking to be seen yet. It says pretty warm in the loft so if it's going to move it should do so soon. My tile guy is comming in the morning to get started on the tile floors and kitchen backsplash. I'll be working on trim in the loft this week to stay out of his way as much as possible.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 10, 2010, 07:58:42 AM
I put 1 coat of semi-gloss oil based polyurethane on the floor last weekend. The can says to put 3 coats on floors but I'll wait and do the other coats later. I think it looks pretty good so far. No warping or cracking to be seen yet. It says pretty warm in the loft so if it's going to move it should do so soon. My tile guy is comming in the morning to get started on the tile floors and kitchen backsplash. I'll be working on trim in the loft this week to stay out of his way as much as possible.

Yeah I think 3 coats is pretty well standard. I have always did 3 coat on everything.  I usually do two and let it throughly dry, sand with 220-360, dust off, tack with either a tack cloth or rubbing alcohol on lent free cloth then recoat.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on January 10, 2010, 11:32:54 AM
It also seems to have made the house quieter. Not sure why.

Mass will also help reduce resonance.

Back home the walls of the radio studio where I knew the engineer, were lined with a thin lead sheet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on January 11, 2010, 08:32:59 PM
Scott, I've forgotten if you've mentioned this or not, are you going to live there full time?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 12, 2010, 04:16:50 AM
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Scott, I've forgotten if you've mentioned this or not, are you going to live there full time?

Yes
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jimconnors on January 13, 2010, 07:24:01 AM
Scott,

I just got done reading through the whole thread, and wow - nice work, fit and finish is top notch!  [cool] I have to say, there are more than a few things that I noted in my sketch book for future inclusion in my own project.

Good luck with the finish out, and enjoy the place!  I'll be re-reading your posts for lessons learned as I finish planning out my own place just south of the red river down here in Texas.

Jim
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: poppy on January 13, 2010, 07:42:53 AM
Jim,  w* to our world.

Right away I have a request (that I wish everyone would do), and that is to put your location (what part of Texas) in your profile so it shows up in your posts.

You will probably be asking questions in the future and many of the answers are affected by where you are building.

Some things that I could help someone with conditions similar to mine, are things that I may not be able to help you with.

Not trying to hi-jack your thread Scott, just trying to help a new member.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on January 13, 2010, 11:06:20 AM
It's not all that difficult to do as poppy suggests. One does need to know where to look to add such details. Once a member has made 2 posts they can access that area.

See...    http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=4973.0 (http://countryplans.com/smf/index.php?topic=4973.0)

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 13, 2010, 01:01:50 PM
Thanks for the kind words and  w* to the forum Jim.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 13, 2010, 01:41:45 PM
Couple of new pics.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 29, 2010, 05:35:59 AM
Sorry not much to report lately. I have been working on the woodwork (trim, handrails etc.)in the loft. The hand rails are all installed waiting for finishing next week.The 6' sliding closet door by the veranda door is in also. Still a good bit of trim remains.I got started on the office area this week building some shelfs and part of the built in desk is done.

On a side note I've been heating the cabin with wood pretty much all winter. So far I've burned about 1/2 a cord. Considering winter is 2/3 over that pretty darn good. The little Jotul stove is the perfect size for this house in this climate if anyone is considering one.

We have snow and ice so I'm staying home today. I'll hopefully get to make new pictures next week.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on January 31, 2010, 07:50:14 AM
Hey Scott, I couldn't see this thread because it was grouped in with the stickies.  Now that I've seen your progress since last time I looked, I want to compliment you on all your fantastic work.  It sure is coming together for you.  Good job! ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: pagan on February 02, 2010, 04:48:39 AM
Scott,

I can't find any posts on it, perhaps I'm reading too fast, but did you post anything about how you built your ships ladder for your loft?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 02, 2010, 08:59:45 AM
I don't think I went into any detail. What would you like to know?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: pagan on February 02, 2010, 09:10:21 AM
What size stock you used, how you determined the rise between treads, and how you fastened ladder? Did you simply lag bolt it together or have you cut out to recess the treads? Pretty much the whole shooting match.

By the way, your place is looking sweet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 02, 2010, 12:44:02 PM
The sides are 2x10's. The treads are 2x8's. The run is 5" and the rise is 10 1/4". I copied this from a commercial OSHA approved design. The rise can vary between 8" and 11 1/2" I belive. You can adjust it to suit your floor height. I wouldn't go much over 10" though for comfort. Mine works pretty good. Easy to go up and down. Needs hand rails on both sides.

As for putting it together. I used 6 16d case nails per side evenly spaced and predrilled to keep them dead center of the stock. The joints are also glued with tightbond II. It's been in use for over a year and seems to be fine but I have some metal angle brackets I'm going to add on both sides of each tread underneith as a backup. I just need to get them painted and put them in. It's on my to-do list.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: pagan on February 03, 2010, 04:02:07 AM
I'll be building something along these lines in the next few months so your input is appreciated.

Thank you, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 10, 2010, 12:58:16 PM
Woodwork in various stages of completion. Sorry for all the dust. The bad weather forces me to work inside.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 10, 2010, 01:01:35 PM
Here's a few more dusty pics.

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The hand rails are selected 2x4s. Cost maybe $10

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 10, 2010, 01:05:12 PM
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My work shop and wood pile. Pretty messy I know. All the trim and other woodwork is sawn from 1x12's. I found this was the cheapest way to go. A little more work though. Looks like about 6-8 weeks to completion if all goes well.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 10, 2010, 01:13:26 PM
Looking good Scott.  Have you started on the doors and drawers for the cabinets.  That part always seem slow to me.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 10, 2010, 01:19:41 PM
Starting on those next week John.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on February 10, 2010, 05:33:31 PM
great Scott work!  I mean, great work Scott!  I like the rail being lifted up off the wall like that.  What was your finish on the trim?  Looks like amber shellac. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 10, 2010, 05:51:37 PM
Thanks for the kind words. The finish is a 4 step process. 1 coat of minwax puritan pine stain and 3 coats of minwax wipe on satin poly hand rubed into the wood. The wood is sanded to 120 grit before the stain. The third coat of poly has not been done yet in any of the pics. I'll sand it to 220 grit before the final coat goes on. After all the dust is cleaned up first.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 10, 2010, 06:11:04 PM
Scott I used to use tack cloth before the final coat but I was told that it can leave a residue that will efffect the final coat.  I now use a lint free cloth with rubbing alcohol.  It will pick up the dust and dries almost immediately. In a pinch I have even used Bounty.  The alcohol keeps all the paper fibers together ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OkieJohn2 on February 11, 2010, 02:58:43 AM
There are a couple of things at WallyWorld you might find helpful, over in automotive they have a bundle of microfiber cloths, I think it is a dozen for $5.00 they also have rolls of blue "shop towels" paper towels that are very lint free and pretty cheap, twice as expensive as regular paper towels but very strong.  They work great for doing windows and you use a lot less towels.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 12, 2010, 01:52:11 PM
Scott I was just wondering if you have ever looked up your place on Goggle or Flash Earth and whether you might want to share it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Thejapster on February 12, 2010, 01:57:44 PM
What style of doors are you gonna use?
and what kinda drawer guides?

and one other question why did you go with the luon on the walls?

Everything is looking great!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 12, 2010, 02:14:42 PM
John the house doesn't show up on google earth. The satallite phots are old.

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What style of doors are you gonna use?
Cabinet doors? Edge glued pine. Homemade.

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what kinda drawer guides?

Euro style medium duty. They are already installed.

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and one other question why did you go with the luon on the walls?

My granfathers house had this type of panneling in the livingroom and I always loved it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 12, 2010, 03:02:48 PM
John here's the google earth image of the area. The building site is in the center of the picture.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 12, 2010, 03:45:03 PM
Scott I cannot bookmark Goggle to mine.  Each time I have to start over and locate it.  I do have it on Flash Earth.  They were more up to date than Goggle for this area.  You might give it a try.

http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=38.120383&lon=-79.95563&z=15.8&r=0&src=msa
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 12, 2010, 06:49:20 PM
I checked it John. House is not in that one either. Be ok with me if it never is. Wishful thinking.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on February 13, 2010, 09:26:33 AM
http://www.flashearth.com/?lat=38.120383&lon=-79.95563&z=15.8&r=0&src=msa

Let's hope they don't update these too often ;)

Were in this shot -- somewhere (not tellin') *chuckle*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 14, 2010, 12:20:20 PM
A couple of new pics.

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Cabinet over toilet in the bathroom.

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Bathroom window.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Thejapster on February 15, 2010, 05:02:55 AM
Nice size bathroom cabinet
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on February 15, 2010, 05:27:14 PM
Scott, are you planing the wood down before you make cabinets or simply using stock material?  Either way, sure is looking good my friend and I want to thank you for keeping this thread updated with new pics.  For some odd reason, I keep losing touch with this thread since it became a sticky.......sorry. :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 16, 2010, 03:51:11 AM
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Scott, are you planing the wood down before you make cabinets or simply using stock material?

Nope, just saw the boards and sand them. They are basic but look pretty nice.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bobmarlon on February 18, 2010, 09:12:24 PM
Ive finally had a chance to go through the last ten pages or so  The cabinets are gonna look great.  Everything's gonna look great.
 
Scott has your brother started his cabin yet?  Are you gonna have any design input.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 19, 2010, 04:16:26 AM
Thanks.
My brother started dug his footings but that's as far as he got so far. He's had some other issues to deal with lately. Yes I'm helping him with the design but it will be much simpler than ours.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 19, 2010, 07:12:46 PM
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Scott, are you planing the wood down before you make cabinets or simply using stock material?

Nope, just saw the boards and sand them. They are basic but look pretty nice.

I think basic is great.  It is really not a necessity to go beyond serving the function intended.  Wood has it's own inherent beauty.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 23, 2010, 11:24:02 AM
New Pics.

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I added a little crown around the top of the kitchen cabinets.

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Office area getting closer to done.

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Pocket door to bathroom installed and cased.

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Little cubby in the loft trimmed out.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 23, 2010, 11:27:03 AM
More dusty pics.

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Desk in the loft.

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Looking down at the mess.

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View of the french doors from the loft.

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Closeup view of the inlay in the kitchen backsplash. The control to the right is for the water heater.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on February 23, 2010, 12:39:50 PM
Golly!  Looks like you're almost done.  Hadn't checked this thread in so long I had about ten pages to catch up on.  It is just gorgeous, Scott. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on February 23, 2010, 01:08:42 PM
Looking good Scott.  Yeah it hard to get rid of those little cubby doors in a loft area but now it is not wasted space.  ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on February 23, 2010, 01:51:09 PM
Impressive, Scott.  I really like the built-in desk.  I think I'm going to copy you on that!  :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on February 23, 2010, 06:29:49 PM
That's the wonderful thing about building your own home, all the special little tricks you can do yourself to add character and charm to your home.  Scott has no lack of imagination and is doing some great things.  It won't be too long until I invite myself up to see this rascal.  I know I can find him, just follow the satellite image........hahaha. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 26, 2010, 10:08:14 AM
You guys are too kind. Jim we'll be having some sort of open house when it's done. You and anyone else who wants will be welcome to come visit.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bishopknight on February 27, 2010, 07:08:12 PM
Scott, question about the stone mortar stove wall.

Is that the kind of stone wall sold at home depot/lowes in boxes?  It looks great and I'm thinking of doing the same thing myself. Thats why I'm asking.

Thanks,
Sean
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 27, 2010, 08:34:50 PM
Yes. The stone came from Lowes.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on February 28, 2010, 05:40:52 PM
I am sure it says somewhere in this thread what kind of a woodstove you have, But I don't want to look for it right now.  It looks almost exactly like ours, except ours has a solid door.  What make/model is it?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 28, 2010, 06:46:32 PM
Jotul 602
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 12, 2010, 12:33:48 PM
Sorry I didn't manage any new pics this week. The trim work is mostly done now. I've got 10 of the 18 cabinet doors made. They are very time consuming. I picked up the last of the wood I needed for the cabinetry in the storage loft and the closet today. I'm trying to figure out what to make the drawers out of. The lumber yard guy suggested 1/2" birch plywood. Any suggestions? The wood for the main floor is in the house aclimating. I need to be done with all the woodwork in 2 weeks so I can start finishing. Busy...busy.
 d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on March 12, 2010, 12:45:15 PM
Scott I just went with standard 1X (3/4") pine with luan 1/4" ply for the bottoms.  The drawers would only be 1/2" narrower than using 1/2" stock.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 30, 2010, 10:55:23 AM
Some new pics.

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Storage loft window.

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Storage cabinets above sized to hold banker boxes.

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Sample cabinet door. There's a big stack of these (all different sizes) in the bathroom.

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Medicine cabinet above the bathroom sink.

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Vanity in the bathroom.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 30, 2010, 11:00:03 AM
More pics.

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Wall trim detail at truss (typical).

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Unsanded plank floor.

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Floor from another angle.

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Cabinets in the bottom of the closet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 30, 2010, 11:04:22 AM
This pics for Don.

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Just a tiny bit of trim left to finnish up followed by sanding then the finnishes start. Still need to build the drawers over the next few weeks. Once all the finnishes are done I'll install the cabinet doors.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on March 30, 2010, 11:48:36 AM
That floor looks incredible...   :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on March 30, 2010, 12:13:09 PM
This pics for Don.

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 :P  nice doors. good view. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on March 30, 2010, 03:23:33 PM
Wow, Scott.  Those floors look great!  So there's no T&G?  Do I see finish nails about every 8 in or so at the edges?
Do you plan on sanding them?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 30, 2010, 05:08:41 PM
The nails are 7d case head screw nails made for floors. There is a row of 3 nails every 8". Yes the entire floor will be sanded flat and finnished next week. The wood has been in the house drying for 6 weeks. They call this a square edge wide plank floor. I did it according to some info I got from a flooring contractor. The wood I used is not as fancy as most use though. There is 15# felt paper between the planks and the subfloor.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on March 30, 2010, 05:23:12 PM
All I can say is WOW! Really looking good Scott. Now since you took a pic for Don,now you got to take one for Glenn, course that means you have to park the backhoe in sight  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ChuckinVa on March 30, 2010, 05:33:18 PM
I see you got you one of those fancy West Va chandeliers over the medicine cabinet. I didn't know you could wall mount them too ? ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 30, 2010, 07:02:04 PM
I see you got you one of those fancy West Va chandeliers over the medicine cabinet. I didn't know you could wall mount them too ? ;D

Yeah it works great. It's temporary until I put the real light fixture in.

All I can say is WOW! Really looking good Scott. Now since you took a pic for Don,now you got to take one for Glenn, course that means you have to park the backhoe in sight  :)

Dang, I missed my chance last week. I always forget.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: pagan on March 31, 2010, 03:22:39 AM
Very nice home, Scott. Thanks for sharing so much. We still have snow on the ground.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 01, 2010, 11:34:01 AM
Thanks for the kind words.

I got the water on today. So far only the kitchen sink and outside faucet hooked up but it's a start. The water service has been hooked up since last week but I just got around to putting all the shut off valves in at all the fixtures so i could use it.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on April 01, 2010, 05:06:30 PM
Scott, I'm starting to think about the trim.  I like what you've done. Did you use the 1x3 pine that they sell at the big box stores?  Do you plan to paint it or seal it in some sort of way?
Also, did you use the same type of wood on your face frames for the rails and stiles?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 01, 2010, 05:17:52 PM
All of the woodwook is white pine. I bought a bunch of it as 1 x12 and milled it myself for trim etc. It was the least expensive way (though more time consuming). If you cut it yourself you can decide what pieces work best for what. I used clearer wood in places that mattered and put knotted wood in places that didn't. They do sell it at lowes but I got a better deal from a local lumber yard when I bought a lot. There is $1800 worth of white pine on the inside of my cabin. This includes the floors.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 01, 2010, 05:20:16 PM
Scott, I'm starting to think about the trim.  I like what you've done. Did you use the 1x3 pine that they sell at the big box stores?  Do you plan to paint it or seal it in some sort of way?
Also, did you use the same type of wood on your face frames for the rails and stiles?

The wood will be stained and sealed with a wipe on poly. Some is already done. I did it to see if I liked it or not. I think it looks very natural.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: travcojim on April 02, 2010, 05:49:35 PM
Just to jump off topic for a quick second, but aren't you on the Silver Dollar City Forum? 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 03, 2010, 02:56:44 AM
Nope.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 07, 2010, 12:48:24 PM
Started the big cleanup today and put up the mailbox. I'll spend all day tomorrow dusting and vacuming then start finishes on Friday. 3 weeks to go.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on April 07, 2010, 01:50:45 PM
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Can you show more pictures of these stairs and describe the build?  I'm looking for just this sort of stair/ladder for my loft!

Thanks
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 08, 2010, 03:30:55 AM
If you look back through the thread you'll find lots of pics and some discussion of the stairs. If you have a specific question feel free to PM me.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on April 08, 2010, 05:41:44 AM
Such a fine looking place... great craftsmanship and attention to detail.
A pearl sitting in the woods.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Pine Cone on April 08, 2010, 05:48:51 AM
It's really starting to look great!

Your ladder/stairs are very much like ones I had years ago when I lived in an A-frame for a few years.

I like the contrast of the pine and the darker luan (or whatever it is...)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on April 08, 2010, 08:36:26 AM
If you look back through the thread you'll find lots of pics and some discussion of the stairs. If you have a specific question feel free to PM me.

Will do thanks.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 08, 2010, 04:00:54 PM
Happy to help.

You guys are too kind.  :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: JavaMan on April 09, 2010, 09:06:04 AM
I just read through the entire thread and I have to ask - since I didn't see it in the last few pages - how close are you to your budget?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 09, 2010, 12:15:37 PM
We are at about $16,500 right now which is $1500 over the original budget. I'll likely spend another $1000 to finnish up all the little odds and ends. We did upgrade some things along the way (mostly tile and stone work) which helps explain some of the cost increse. This does not include land or utilities it's just the house.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on April 14, 2010, 04:53:59 PM
Scott, I'm so proud for you, your project is looking fantastic and turning out to be one of the neatest houses in the forum.  Keep those pictures coming and I'll make sure to get in and comment each time I get the chance. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 15, 2010, 08:58:40 AM
Thanks for the kind words.

I just got back from shopping. Just spent $3k on appliances and furniture to be delivered next week. What's bad is I'm not even done staining and finishing yet. So I better get back to work.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on April 15, 2010, 11:48:24 AM
Scott, I'm so proud for you, your project is looking fantastic and turning out to be one of the neatest houses in the forum.  Keep those pictures coming and I'll make sure to get in and comment each time I get the chance. ;D

I agree,now if I could some how convince him to build me one just like it :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 22, 2010, 02:49:58 PM
It's getting close to the end. New pics.

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The fridge and the A/C are in. A/C still needs trim. Don't laugh.

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Bathroom sink is in.

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The all important cieling fan is in.

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I know you guys have been dying to see this.

1 week to go till final move in.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bobmarlon on April 22, 2010, 07:20:57 PM
nice man you must be exited !! Cieling fan is a good match looks good.  And I bet its nice to have a fully operational throne room!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 23, 2010, 12:46:39 AM
Excited yes, but also very tired. I've been working 7 days a week for the past 3 weeks. When this is over I'll need a long nap.  :P

The cieling fan is a 52" Harbor Breeze. It has remote control. It was real fun to install in that 17' high vault. The blades are 12' 6" off the floor.

And yes it's nice to have the throne room operational.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on April 23, 2010, 07:16:03 AM
I see you got the commander model toilet.  I guess you like to sit up high, take charge kinda thing....    Looks great Scott.  I bet you just can't wait to move in.. d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 26, 2010, 04:09:50 PM
Yep it's great phalynx. I wouldn't have anything else. I don't know why they force the low boy mobels on everyone, kids I guess.

I finnished installing the appliances today. Some of the furniture is in and I hung a few pictures. Boy am I pooped, nearly 5 weeks without a day off is rough but my wife keeps pushing harder every day.

BTW- Thank you Country Plans members for all the support throughout this project. You guys really helped with lots of great ideas and kept me motivated.

Thank God it's almost done.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on April 27, 2010, 05:23:37 AM
I hope we have inspired you as much as you have inspired us!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: desimulacra on April 27, 2010, 11:50:15 AM
Scott I just read thru this entire thread  c*. Thanks for taking the time to post here it has been an inspiration to me and many more I am sure  [cool]. Very nice place and design. I hope to start my cabin soon!!!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 02, 2010, 01:20:00 PM
First post from Deer Run. We've been sleeping here for the past few nights. Still not finished but getting close.

New pics.

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I had to tie up Felix to keep him from running back to the other house.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on May 03, 2010, 06:30:11 AM
You'll have to teach that dog new tricks.  ;D


I'll bet it feels real nice to be sleeping there and pretty much calling the place home now!   [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OkieJohn2 on May 03, 2010, 07:02:23 AM
Perhaps Felix is just PO'd because you didn't think to pack his favorite buried bones.
Your new home is looking great, you've packed a lot of features in 16 x26.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on May 03, 2010, 01:41:17 PM
It looks terrific Scott and now you will begin to enjoy all the fruits of your labor.  I'm really proud of how neat your place has turned out and I hope mine looks half as good. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on May 04, 2010, 11:53:49 AM
 Great to hear you are spending some nights in your new place. I've followed from the start, and really enjoyed all you have shared with us all. Thanks Scott, and the latest pics are great, and show what a fine job you have done!
 Enjoy buddy, you earned it ;) Now if I could just talk you into building one for me  c*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 04, 2010, 04:47:55 PM
Thanks for all the kind words.

I spent the day staining cabinet doors and moving some more stuff. It got warm enough to test out the A/C today. Not really all that hot but I wanted to make sure it worked right.

mtman- Money talks me into things all the time.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 11, 2010, 12:45:28 AM
Hope all is well in lieu of the storms that we heard was passing through OK yesterday. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 11, 2010, 04:14:50 AM
We're all fine. The storms went around us but it was scary for a while. Thanks for the concern.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 11, 2010, 04:21:22 AM
The place is really looking good, Scott.  You have been busy.

We were thinking of you and  our friends in your area too when we heard of the tornadoes.  Glad all is well.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 11, 2010, 12:08:04 PM
Thanks for thinking of us.

Cabinet door pics.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on May 11, 2010, 12:12:58 PM
Those do look nice, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 11, 2010, 12:19:11 PM
Good Job Scott
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on May 11, 2010, 05:14:01 PM
Your place looks beautiful, Scott.  You can see lots of planning, creativity & hard work went into making your home!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on May 15, 2010, 06:00:14 AM
Your cabinets turned super nice Scott, job well done! [cool]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: gibby on May 17, 2010, 06:10:14 AM
Hey Scott -

Selfish request, but could you post an up-to-date outside view of your finished cabin?  I'd love to see the finished product in the glory of springtime.

Thanks!  And congrats on a beautiful place.

Kevin
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 17, 2010, 12:31:03 PM
Here's one from last spring. I'll try to get some new ones when the weather clears up.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on May 17, 2010, 12:46:24 PM
Yeah you will have to do better than that Scott.  The door and the backhoe window would show the charm. ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 27, 2010, 03:41:23 PM
Kitchen finished

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: rick91351 on May 27, 2010, 06:05:19 PM
I love it!  I bet you are proud of it!

 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Thoughts-from-Jules on May 30, 2010, 08:35:46 AM
I have been really enjoying this project, thank you so much for sharing it with us!  Seems like I check it most days for updates! 

Beautiful pics of the kitchen!

I have been wondering how you are liking the concrete countertops?  Would you do them again?  I was excited to see you did them because it is something we have been considering for our future build at some point.  Just wondering how you are liking them now that they are in use and how the finish is holding up etc.  Any thoughts or tips on that? 

Lastly, aside from this great forum, was there any additional resource you got your inspirations from (books, websites etc)?

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 31, 2010, 04:31:15 AM
I would give the concrete tops a B. They where more work than I'd want to do again. If I had the money I would have gone with black granite. But they get the job done and the cost was very low. The finish is holding up fine so far. My recomendation to the non-pro would be to buy pre made tops.

As for inspiration, I looked at hundreds of websites from all over the world. Finehomebuilding.com is a good one.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on May 31, 2010, 07:09:25 AM
Nice job Scott!

That is a fine small kitchen - very workable with no wasted space.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Thoughts-from-Jules on June 01, 2010, 05:30:15 AM
Thanks for the feedback about the counters!  Good to know they are working out good for you.  Thanks so much for sharing this project with all of us on these forums, you are providing much inspiration!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: muldoon on June 02, 2010, 03:25:31 PM
This is one of my favorite projects on the site, in fact it was one of the first threads that led me to join the site .. quite a while back.  I have not been keeping up with your progress the last 2 months.  WOW!  Thanks for the pictures, the shared knowledge and the inspiration here.  The house looks fine. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 03, 2010, 11:38:57 AM
Thanks for the support.  :)

Well we've been in the mid 90's and very humid this week. My 12k btu A/C is keeping the place comfy and not even running full time. Before we moved in I took a wild guess on the propane and bought 2 40# bottles. I hooked them up so I could run both at the same time or just one. After 5 weeks the first bottle (just running on 1 bottle for now) feels like it still has about 10# of gas in it. That's for cooking and hot water. Not bad at all since we cook pretty much every day and had company for 5 days last weekend.

I just finished making the last drawers for the desk and the door. I've got 9 doors left to make for the storages then the woodwork is done.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 14, 2010, 09:24:58 AM
For those who might be interested. We did a full accounting of the costs to date at Deer Run this past weekend for taxes. I was too busy to do it earlier.

Here's the breakdown.

Land- $11,000
Water- $3640
Septic- $2500
Power- $500
House- $21,640...Seems I lost track of some things along the way  d* Still works out to less than $55 a foot.
Appliances $1700

Total= $40,980

Phase 2 starts next month...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: bayview on June 15, 2010, 03:14:06 AM


   Scott:

   Your place really came together . . .   Looks great!   

   Hope you weathered yesterdays storms, ok . . .

/
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on June 16, 2010, 06:20:24 PM
Thanks bayview. We made out fine in the storms. We really got hammered today. Lighting took out the network card on my comp and the dsl modem. It hit about 20' from the house so I guess the EMP got them. Luckily I my laptop has wireless as well and that still works. I had to run to town and get a new modem after the storm.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Tom on June 17, 2010, 02:06:06 AM
I spent the past few days going from start to finish in this thread. I just wanted to thank you for sharing your dream with us.

They say that the devil is in the details; in your case, your little piece of heaven is in the details. This is what kept jumping out at me throughout this thread... the details; it's what makes your place pop. It's been an encouragement to me to get moving on my small cabin... which will pale in comparison.

The other thing that jumped out at me was the speed in which you completed this project. I sat here on Monday reading about the foundation, and here we are on Thursday and you're finished already  :D Ok, I can see that this project took you quite a while, but the end result is beautiful!

Nice house Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 02, 2010, 09:58:37 AM
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The kids came to visit a couple of weeks ago to check out the new place.

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I started clearing for the guest cottage. I had to fold this tree up to bring it down in this tight space.

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My new 96' Ranger. The 91' Chevy finaly died.

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I rocked around some of the piers with left over stones.

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I made this chest with scrap wood to fit in the alcove in the loft.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 02, 2010, 10:03:24 AM
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Shot of the storage loft with the doors installed.

The inside is basicly done. I've got a little to do on the outside later this fall but I need to get the second building up first so I have some storage space for tools. This next building will be 140 sq. ft. with a 1/2 bath and a 10x10 bedroom. The deck will connect it to the main house. It will sit just a few feet to the north west.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on July 02, 2010, 06:40:17 PM
Cool, Scott.... the never ending project.   :D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on July 03, 2010, 07:15:46 AM
Phase 2?  I like your style!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Shawn B on July 18, 2010, 10:10:38 AM
Scott, WOW your place is awesome. I like the creative use of luan and the Dutch gables

I have some of questions. Did you add any support under the slab for the fireplace, such as a adjustable  beam support or foundation blocks ?  Did you use dye to finish it and the counter tops ? If so does it go on when the concrete is still wet or dry. Does the Jotul have a ash pan?  Is there any other backup or supplemental heat source ?

Thanks,
Shawn
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 18, 2010, 12:29:38 PM
Thanks Shawn, I'm happy you like it.

There is a beam and a pier directly under the stove hearth also the subfloor is double thickness there. The finish on the counter and hearth is acrylic enamel. It's a little more complicated than that but, thats basicly what it is. I had planned to polish the concrete but my wife said no. She likes the slightly rough look better. The idea was for it to look like stone. It works for me and it was easier so I said Ok. The stove does not have an ash pan but it's not a problem since it's so tiny. There is no other heat source, none is needed. I discovered a long time ago that if I have a thermostat I'll get lazy about keeping the fire going. If we ever need to, we have an nice electric space heater we can use as a backup.

Scott
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Shawn B on July 19, 2010, 07:51:57 AM
Thanks for answering, Scott. When I build my cottage I was thinking of building a framed hearth then tiling it, but the slab method looks easier and IMO more rustic. The reason I asked about supplemental heat is for the times when no one will be home to keep the fire going. When at work, vacations, etc.   
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jamest on July 24, 2010, 11:30:47 PM
Hi Scott!  I'm new to the forum, and this is my first post to your thread.  Just want to say that your place is awesome!  Great job....    I'm currently riding out my last month of a year long tour in Afghanistan,  and have been doing a lot of research on small homes.  My wife and I are planning to build in about a year after i come home.   About 1/2 way threw all the pages,  I read that you spent about 8K (dried in, roofed, sided)...and i probably missed it along the way,  but what was your final cost (or cost per sqft)?   Again,  Great Job!!!    James T,  guyton, ga
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 25, 2010, 07:43:26 AM
 w*  jamest Thanks for the kind words.

Final cost was about $53 a sq. ft.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Dog on July 27, 2010, 04:52:57 PM
Looks really nice Scott!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Alasdair on August 04, 2010, 04:02:16 PM
Having not had an internet connection for a while I missed the last year of this project. All I can say is WOW!
You set a new standard for the small homes on the forum. Great job Scott. You must be pleased with the results!  :)
Al
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 05, 2010, 08:38:44 AM
Thanks for the kind words.

Some pics of the finished piers for the guest house I'm building.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on August 05, 2010, 08:53:45 AM
Just can't get enough of the building stuff - a guest house? 

When you run out of your own projects and need something to do you can stop by and help me erect a summer kitchen!   [rofl2]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 05, 2010, 09:04:01 AM
Yeah it's wierd. I build this tiny place in the woods and I suddenly have tons of guests. My #2 daughter and my son are both here today. They hardly ever used to visit until we moved here.

A summer kitchens not a bad idea. I'd stop by help if you wheren't on the other end of the continent.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: WoodSprite on August 05, 2010, 12:33:43 PM
A summer kitchens not a bad idea.

Does this count?

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We have visions of the real thing (including an old wood cookstove that a friend is saving for us), but we probably need to finish the winter kitchen first...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: considerations on August 05, 2010, 12:43:05 PM
I already have a kitchen like that LOL!

I have an old wood cook stove as well, and didn't want to use it as the main source of heat in the cabin and so reserved it for a summer kitchen.  Oh well, it's on "the List" along with many other projects.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 05, 2010, 12:45:12 PM
Just as well Considerations because you would be up all night keeping the fire going in the stove.  I don't know how they used to cook on these.  Seems to me that you spend more time loading the stove than actually cooking. I haven't tried to bake anything yet but from what i understand it is real hard to keep the oven temp regulated.  Maybe that's why there was so many burnt biscuits. ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 06, 2010, 06:51:26 AM
I dunno, John.  My grandma used to cook for a whole logging camp on a wood cook stove.... of course I guess that would have made her a professional and we would not be worthy to compete.  :)

Just looked over the last few pix, Scott.  The place really came out nice.  Looking forward to watching your new project.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 07, 2010, 07:43:08 AM
I stumbled across this site whilst looking at small houses...Watching what ScottA did in creating his place made me join up!! The willingness to share the ups and downs of building is so awesome!!
We have 5+ acres in Marshall county Oklahoma and I am wanting to build...And not 1 dang tree on the place! So I planted a few as well as getting the frame up for my Greenhouse...Been taking it real slow and trying to learn what the laws/rules are for the area...I am open for any and all information that the members here can give!! Dad says that the Septic has to be in first...We have "The Barn" and water (well) and Electric to the barn. (The Barn is Dad's play ground as well as the Garden.)

So my first Q is why does the Septic have to be in first? And yes we have had a perk test and will need a double tank(?)
Irene

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 08, 2010, 03:50:45 AM
 w* Texas Tornado

I don't belive the septic needs to be first. If you already have a perk test and approved septic location that should be good enough. All having the septic does at this stage is to assure you have an approved building site.  I didn't install my septic till the house was half done because I knew the ground would perk and it wasn't an issue. Most builders around here don't put the septic in until the house is almost finished.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: jdhen on August 08, 2010, 04:05:29 AM
I'll second that, Scott.  Our septic was placed when we were more that halfway done and we could have waited even longer but that was when our installer was available.  As long as you know where it will go, you're all set!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 08, 2010, 09:02:04 AM
That just might be the issue....We have not figured out where to put the septic..Sucks living in 1 state and trying to get stuff done in another..
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 08, 2010, 09:06:41 AM
Any online links to how to find out size requirements for buildings...The area is rural and Dad thinks we don't need any permits for anything  :o
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 08, 2010, 10:22:30 AM
Rural or not you'll need a septic permit from the state. Pick a likely spot where you want your septic close to your building site and get it perk tested by a licenced tester. He will file the test with the state then the installer can get the permit. The perk test will tell you how big the system needs to be and what type.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on August 08, 2010, 06:07:30 PM
That just might be the issue....We have not figured out where to put the septic..Sucks living in 1 state and trying to get stuff done in another..

Try to pick an area that the system will work but not eliminate your prime building site.  A lot of people when first beginning will pick the easiest site for the septic have it installed and discover that they have to build on an alternative (less desirable) portion for their house. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 09, 2010, 10:50:56 AM
I am attempting to create a photobucket account and try to get pics uploaded...I will start a thread called "The Barn"...Thank You Scott for letting me hijack your thread  ;D
Irene
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Uppa Gumtree on August 10, 2010, 04:03:47 AM
Hi,

We are new here.  Forgive us for temporarily hi jacking your thread, but your Deer Run project is great and such an inspiration.  Currently we are on page 11 of this thread and reading through the entirety.  We have our 3 year plan in place for land and a small house (576 SF).  We are looking forward to posting its progress as well.

Ron and Jan
Uppa Gumtree
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 19, 2010, 06:51:48 AM
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Floor and deck framing for the guest house complete.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 19, 2010, 10:24:03 AM
What size is it going to be?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 19, 2010, 11:51:51 AM
10x14'
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on August 19, 2010, 02:13:15 PM
Are you using new plans?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 20, 2010, 03:15:47 AM
No plans. Building it out of my head.  ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 20, 2010, 03:42:57 AM
Hi,

We are new here.  Forgive us for temporarily hi jacking your thread, but your Deer Run project is great and such an inspiration.  Currently we are on page 11 of this thread and reading through the entirety.  We have our 3 year plan in place for land and a small house (576 SF).  We are looking forward to posting its progress as well.

Ron and Jan
Uppa Gumtree

w*  Looking forward to seeing your project.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 20, 2010, 03:43:53 AM
No plans. Building it out of my head.  ;)

I do that a lot.  I call them "meat plans".
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: rick91351 on August 20, 2010, 04:57:59 AM
No plans. Building it out of my head.  ;)

I do that a lot.  I call them "meat plans".

I love to do that and it drives everyone else (the wife) nuts!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: TexstarJim on August 31, 2010, 07:09:38 PM
Scott, you've come a long way since the last time I opened your thread.  It all looks so great and I'm very proud for you.  Terrific job and I congratulate you on how it all turned out. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 04, 2010, 09:37:25 AM
Thanks Jim!  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 05, 2010, 08:31:12 PM
No plans. Building it out of my head.  ;)

I do that a lot.  I call them "meat plans".

I love to do that and it drives everyone else (the wife) nuts!

They are not supposed to understand, Rick.... if they did, what would they need us for? [noidea'
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Solar Burrito on October 06, 2010, 12:05:51 PM
Looks great, I like your land too. very flat and treed. VS steep and treed like ours.

You gotta change your profile pic though sometimes I think I'm actually watching Bruce Willis build a cabin.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 06, 2010, 12:31:57 PM
I'll get right on it. Anyone else you'd rather see building a cabin?  ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Solar Burrito on October 06, 2010, 12:36:23 PM
haha, how about you? I bet you could build a better cabin than Bruce anyway.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 06, 2010, 01:07:14 PM
There ya go!  ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Shawn B on October 11, 2010, 10:09:54 AM
Scott,  Hows the guest house coming along....been quiet about it for a couple months ?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 12, 2010, 11:10:20 AM
It's on hold at the moment. I'm up to my ears in paying work. Did someone say the economy was bad? Not for me. I'm hoping to get back on it around the first of November give or take a couple of weeks. The plan is to fast track it to dried in before Christmas. We'll see how that goes. Thanks for the intrest.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 03, 2010, 11:36:40 AM
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Phase 2 underway.

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Deck extended.

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Powered by frit-sticks  ;)

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Light and towel bar in the bath.

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Light in the loft.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: nathan.principe on November 03, 2010, 04:23:53 PM
good to see some progress! Ive always enjoyed following this thread
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 04, 2010, 11:38:10 AM
A bit more progress.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 04, 2010, 11:44:59 AM
Scott it looks like your original structure is going to have to adorn some gutters or maybe you intended on an outdoor shower. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 04, 2010, 11:53:01 AM
No shower. The gutters are on the list already. I just didn't get to it yet.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on November 04, 2010, 12:27:40 PM
Scott the reason I made notice is that it would dump on the deck (walkway) between the two.  I take it that the new addition will have a gable on that end to the old  ;) structure.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 04, 2010, 01:20:27 PM
The roof of the new part will extend over the deck to make a sheltered porch kinda like the one on the main house. There will be a gap of 2' between the old roof and the new. Kinda hard to explain. You'll see in a few a weeks. It will be a hip roof. Both will have gutters to catch the run off.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 01, 2010, 11:50:19 AM
New pics.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on December 01, 2010, 12:01:24 PM
nice looking roof framing
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 01, 2010, 12:21:29 PM
Thanks Don.

Before anyone screams that I did it wrong, I know I left out all the king commons. I did it on purpose. This is a small building and what I got is plenty strong enough for this application. Saved some work and some wood.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on December 01, 2010, 12:26:29 PM
Looking good Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: IronPatriotTN on December 02, 2010, 10:30:35 PM
Looks great. One of my favorite projects on the forum.  8)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on December 18, 2010, 02:37:34 PM
Scott what is the height inside the guest house?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 19, 2010, 05:27:09 AM
Scott what is the height inside the guest house?

Cieling is the standard 8'.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: HoustonDave on December 19, 2010, 08:45:39 PM
Scott,

Is the ceiling height (under the lofts) in the main house 8'?  The pics of you framing it seem to look like the base walls were 9 or 10'  Is that right or were my eyes playing tricks on me?

Tell you what man, I sat down with my wife and went through all 45 pages of your saga with her.  You have done some incredible work here.  I can see the gears in my wife's head spinning..I may be in trouble.

You are an arteest.  You have done an amazing job.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 22, 2010, 05:58:33 AM
In the main house, in the bath and under the loft the cieling height is 7' above finished floor. By code this is legal in bath,kitchen, laundry and storage areas, which all these areas are in. I used 9' precut studs for the exterior walls. Thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 22, 2010, 10:59:37 AM
Looking great as always, Scott.

Is the guest house going to have a nice backhoe view window?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 22, 2010, 02:14:05 PM
Nope. Just regular ol' windows. FYI I did finish the roof. I'll try to get picks in the next couple of days.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on December 22, 2010, 05:49:20 PM
Good move.  Then it can be a bit more leisurely.  Looking fwd to the pix. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: bayview on December 22, 2010, 06:21:17 PM

   Thanks for the X-mas pic . . .   Your tree "just" fits under the loft!    :)

   Maybe Santa will bring you some new tools!

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 22, 2010, 06:25:56 PM
That giant tree my wife picked "just" fits in the house.  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 20, 2011, 09:00:04 AM
New pic. I got 1 window in and the door. The other 2 windows are on order. They should be in sometime this week. Been busy with other things but it's progressing slowly. We got a little snow this morning. It's been a very dry winter so far.

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Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on January 20, 2011, 09:27:51 AM
Looking good Scott.  Better you than me for the snow. Although we are expecting 6-8" tonight and in the morning it is a far cry from last year. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: rjionline on January 29, 2011, 09:38:38 AM
Hi Scott, I am new to this forum and this is my first post. I am inspired by your design and craftsmanship. Its a bit overwhelming to me at this point as I have been in the dreaming / design phase for a few months now since we bought a property up on Lake Superior last August. We just have our trailer on it right now and money is a little tight due to the land purchase, so I will be starting with a guest house and then build the main cabin closer to retirement. I like the way you have layed out the two buildings and I think this would work well on our property. Think I might start a thread soon. Thanks for sharing!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on January 31, 2011, 08:02:08 PM
 w* rjionline. I'm happy you like the cabin.

Well we have a blizzard comming in tonight. Expecting -2 tomorrow night so I can finaly get a real test on the heating/insulation system. Coldest we've seen so far this year. For info we've burned 1/3 of a cord of wood so far this winter. That's not much work time in wood cutting so the cabin is proving to be easy to heat. About an easy day of work and less than 20 bucks in gas oil saw blades gloves etc. You can't go wrong heating with wood. It's a little work but its nice and warm and very cheap. I chop all the wood by hand since a wood splitter cost more than a 10 year supply of firewood delivered. Stay warm!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ajbremer on February 01, 2011, 01:55:57 AM
Tuesday Morning - February 1st, 2010 @ 4:07am

Hi ScottA,

I really appreciate all of the time you've taken with all of the great pics of your progress, I'm about ready to start my own house using the 'Little House Plans' that I've already purchased from here.

My piece of land is about 80 miles south of you in Eufaula, Oklahoma. Actually it's Checotah but I'm 1/4 to 1/2 mile as the crow flies from the lake. I have a small lot which is only 134x75 but it's nice. My perc test passed a few days ago and my septic and water will go in right after this little bit of weather. I bought a 12x32 Derksen building (Derksen is the largest manufacturer of portable buildings in the US) and had it brought in as a temporary place for me and my wife to be while we build the house right in front of it. Problem is, I'm starting to spend a lot of money turning the portable building into a temporary home - oh well, it'll be worth it in the end.

I've been constantly on countryplans now for about a month and find it to be invaluable. I am a very 'green' builder and have barely made a wall or two in my whole life so I need all of the help I can get.

My first inspiration came from the Nash cabin here at countryplans (http://www.countryplans.com/nash.html) - yours is great too. It's so cool to read through these 'Owner Built Projects' like a book and learn from all of you pros! (Some of you guys may not think your a pro but as I look at what you've accomplished, your a pro in my eyes). I did go out to Lowe's and purchase those main books that John suggested here - the one on Framing in particular.

I'm going to start my main posting in 'Owner Built Projects' any time now. I have been documenting my whole process with many videos and pics. Here's a few starters:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLmwJFtS6MQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o9WfqUFbQx0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8y3OP_N2MQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8pdaE0GDXa0

My main question to you now is about the blocks you've used for footings/piers. I really like the way you did it, it looks like it might be easier for a beginner like me to handle. It looks to me like you dug pier holes, layed in rebar/threaded rod, filled up and leveled with concrete, and then added blocks which you filled with concrete while letting the threaded rod protrude at the proper locations? (How'd you do that?) From looking at your foundation pics, it looks like the threaded rods are going through pieces of wood that nail to 2x6's that act as the main beams. Then you put 2x6 floor joists on top of that? I'm I right in my thinking? Maybe when I get to that point, you could help me and answer a few questions I'll have?

You've done an awesome job sir. Kind of reminds me of what Mr. Magoo used to say, "Oh Magoo, you've done it again!"

(http://www.hark.com/clips/rxzlqxhxvd-youve-done-it-again)

Thank you ScottA and all others!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 01, 2011, 05:08:01 AM
 w* ajbremer

I'm not sure I understand your question but it sounds like you are describing it right. If your asking how I got everything in the right place I put up string lines to measure off of. Be sure to pour a footer under each pier. I don't know what your soil is like so you'll need to size for your soil conditions not mine. So far as I'm concerned this block pier and beam system works great. Remember don't copy what I've done without making sure the sizing is correct for your own build. You may have longer spans etc. If you have a specific question I'll try to help.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 09, 2011, 10:14:13 AM
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Deer run doing it's Colorado impression today.

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This was a week ago.

Two record snows in less than 8 days.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 09, 2011, 10:19:18 AM
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View from the veranda.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on February 09, 2011, 11:43:59 AM
Looks beautiful but glad we don't have that here...

We have sun today - no snow since December...  yesterday we were totally socked in with cloud cover - 41 degrees, the day before it was around 70... 

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on February 21, 2011, 07:20:30 PM
How's the weather? Still got that white stuff on the ground?
TT
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 21, 2011, 10:47:26 PM
Crimoney, Scott... that looks like California snow.... [waiting]
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 22, 2011, 04:47:56 AM
We thawed out finaly. We ended up breaking the all time low temp record -28, and the all time single snowfall record 16", and the most snow on the ground at one time record, 26".
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on February 22, 2011, 07:55:18 AM
Jeez, you could move to central Canada and be warmer.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on February 22, 2011, 09:19:28 AM
Scott, you say you're in Oklahoma?!  Whew, that is cold!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 22, 2011, 12:18:31 PM
An author contacted me toady about doing an interview concerning Deer Run for a new book about building small houses.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on February 22, 2011, 02:43:26 PM
The author contacted me wanting to do interviews with people who have built their own houses. I mentioned the forum and Gallery projects as possibly being of interest.

I don't know the author personally but have seen a preview copy of her book (so, so... some good stories could improve it.)

Please make your own choice on this.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Texas Tornado on March 02, 2011, 04:40:51 AM
Any new stuff you done to the guest house?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on March 02, 2011, 04:57:22 AM
I got the wire pulled last week. Sorry it's going slow due to me being busy working on our other house.

We have a rental property that is vacant at the moment. I'm using this chance to fix it up a little.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Jens on April 06, 2011, 05:13:49 AM
how have you dealt with pests behind the siding due to the spaced rain screen design?  I am thinking about doing this on my house with hardiplank, but i see bugs being problematic.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on April 10, 2011, 04:27:00 AM
So far their have been no real problems. The wasps haven't built any nests inside the wall only on the overhangs of the roof. There where some dirt dobbers making a nest by the front door last summer but I sprayed it and they never came back. So we'll see I guess, but so far so good.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on April 11, 2011, 08:02:39 AM
We have problems w/mud daubers down at the valley house.  I also see a lot of wasps in mud puddles up here but haven't seen any nests around the house.  Those mud nests are really tough to break off the eves.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 03, 2011, 04:20:17 PM
I got all the spacer boards put up on the guest house. I picked up the guttering for the main cabin today and will start on that tomorrow. Maybe I can start making some progress again now that I'm caught up. I spent the past 2 months remodeling our rental. All new siding, paint in and out, replaced 2 exterior doors, tore down the car port that the snow killed last winter and put up a garden shed in the back yard. That was a project, and it's a 45 minute drive one way so lots of driving every day. I'm glad that's over.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 20, 2011, 05:44:28 PM
I finished the guttering and started the second coat of stain on the house. I finished 2 sides this week before the heavy rains hit. I also wired my brothers cabin yesterday. He's hoping to move in by fall. I'll try to get some pics soon. Super busy.  :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on May 21, 2011, 02:58:35 PM
You sound like you've been busy!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on May 23, 2011, 03:43:29 AM
Yup, busy busy. All safe and sound here. The twisters didn't get us last night. Joplin, Mo wasn't so lucky. 30% of the city is gone, 89 dead. We are about 90 miles from Joplin. Scary!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on May 23, 2011, 11:29:39 AM
Glad to hear you're ok - guess there were twisters all the way up to Minneapolis...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: IronPatriotTN on May 23, 2011, 07:21:31 PM
Latest news out of Joplin is 116 dead. Sad. Sad.

We just had a bad run of tornados here in Southern East TN 2 weeks ago.

We had 5 waves of storms through the day produce 6 tornados, 2 which were EF-4 in Bradley County (Cleveland) alone.

Very very unheard of in these parts.  :o
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: duncanshannon on May 23, 2011, 07:56:39 PM
Glad to hear you're ok - guess there were twisters all the way up to Minneapolis...

Yup. We were lucky... some passed pretty much overhead of my place before developing into the twisters. Some hit about 5-10 miles north of here on saturday.

Similar situation, however it was about 10 miles to the east on sunday.

Worst damage was in NE Minneapolis (pretty poor part of town) in the sunday storms.

http://minnesota.cbslocal.com/2011/05/23/weather-service-north-mpls-tornado-was-ef1-or-ef2/
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 17, 2011, 03:24:44 AM
Sorry, not much to report lately. I've been swamped with other projects. I purchased the material for the soffits on the guest cottage and hope to get started on that in a week or so. We are sheet rocking my brothers cabin this week. I've been slowly building that since last year. It's a tiny 14'x16' with a kitchenette and a 3/4 bath. He plans to live in that while he(I) builds a larger house over the next few years. We are having a hot summer this year which is taking it's toll on my energy levels. My wife was diagnosed with melanoma a couple of months ago and we have been dealing with that as well. Hopefully in the fall I can get this finally wrapped up.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: rick91351 on July 17, 2011, 08:34:00 AM
Sorry to read that about your wife.  Please keep us informed.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on July 17, 2011, 02:39:39 PM
How is your wife feeling?  I'll say a prayer for her...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on July 18, 2011, 12:36:28 PM
Sassy, she's fine at the moment. She had surgery last month. Now I am having a fight with the hospital over the bill. It's pretty sad that in addition to dealing with a health problem you have to fight off a gang of thieves trying to rob you at the same time. We made a deal with the hospital before the surgery and paid in advance. They came back a month later trying to collect a past due balance (double what we already paid) we where never billed for or agreed to. My advice, avoid hospitals like the plague. The rest of the story is much more interesting but I'll spare you the conspiracy details.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Homegrown Tomatoes on July 18, 2011, 12:49:00 PM
Scott, sorry to hear about you and your wife having to deal with both the melanoma and the hospital.  I'm still angry about the $500 bill I just got from our Mother's Day ER fiasco over the black widow spider that went up my daughter's nose and caused one heck of a nosebleed. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on July 19, 2011, 03:14:42 AM
Sorry to hear about your wife's problem and the problem with the hospital, Scott.

When you get time.. some of us would enjoy the conspiracy details also......
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 15, 2011, 07:08:00 PM
More fun with the government. Some of you may recall we had an issue with building a driveway out to the highway that runs in front of our place. The state refused to grant a permit. Anyway, we've been driving in and out of this unofficial entrance for 4 years and no one has complained. Last spring I decided I would build a real driveway to an existing gate on the other end of our property, about 660' away from the cabin, which fronts on different road owned by the county. I had planed to do the work this fall when the weather was cooler.

A couple of weeks ago I noticed a phone company crew working in the easement along the road on our property and stopped by to see what they where doing. They where moving the lines for the new road that was going to be built where the existing road was.  Don't ask me why we need a new road, the old road is fine. Anyway I called the county to find out what was going on because I want to start my driveway next month.

The county commissioner came out later that day and brought plans for the new road to show me. First he tells me my fence is going to be moved back 30'. When I asked why he to tells me it's in the wrong place. "Really" I asked. "You know this fence is over 45 years old? And you know I surveyed this line myself when I bought this land?" I told him the fence was off by about 1' on one end and 5' on the other.

So he whips out his plans to prove me wrong. The first thing I notice is there is no entrance to my land on his plans. The second thing I notice is that the easement the phone company is working in belongs to me not the county. It is plainly marked "private easement" yet they decided it was OK to dig up my land and lay a fiber optic line without permission. All the property lines where clearly marked on the plans and exactly where I told him they where.

After I pointed out all these issues and explained things to him he agreed I was right and that they would need to provide me an entrance since there is an existing gate there that is nearly 50 years old.

Tomorrow there is a meeting with all involved parties to discuss the problems with this new, unneeded road project and how they made a few mistakes. We'll see how it goes. Morale of the story is if a  crew shows up and starts working on your land you better call and find out what's going on.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: muldoon on August 15, 2011, 07:39:18 PM
you should bring your shotgun to the meeting.  ...  or maybe not ... or maybe so. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 15, 2011, 07:42:10 PM
I could. The meeting will held in my new driveway that's not built yet on my land.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: muldoon on August 15, 2011, 07:45:01 PM
Bruce Willis would do it... 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 15, 2011, 07:51:27 PM
You think that would help convince them to build the driveway for me? Cause that's the plan.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 16, 2011, 01:19:54 PM
Well they decided they needed to move the fiber optic cable they installed on our land by mistake and they will build us an entrance with a culvert and replace the fence they tore up or so they said. Pretty easy all around. No shotgun needed.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on August 16, 2011, 05:00:47 PM
 That's good to hear!! Seems the least they could do. ;D
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: rick91351 on August 16, 2011, 05:05:39 PM
That is great news!  That went a lot better than I thought it would!  Cool! 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on August 17, 2011, 09:15:33 PM
If you hadn't spoke up they would have rolled right over you though.  Glad it worked out, Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on August 18, 2011, 02:04:16 PM
Fiber optic got moved today. My old fence is gone. They had to tear it out to get the track hoe in since they only have a small area to work in. The new fiber line is basically where the fence was. It was off a little as I mentioned but they are going to rebuild it a couple of feet over from where it was. He buried it 5'  deep since it's so close to the fence line. On to the next project. I'm trying to get my brother moved in over the next couple of weeks so lots to get done on his cabin. Seems like finishing up is most of the work.  d*
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 26, 2011, 03:02:35 PM
Road building day at deer run. Had a dozer and backhoe here all day cutting in the new road. Should be done tomorrow. I'll try to get some picks up then. I'm pooped ATM.  d* 800' of road through raw land is not an easy task I can tell you. I drove on it for the first time tonight. Woohoo!  :) Still needs to be dressed and finished. After that I need to cut up all the wood from the trees we killed this morning. They won't go to waste though, good firewood for next winter.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: henderson on September 27, 2011, 08:46:24 AM
You sure have built a beautiful place to call home. Good to see a dream come true. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 27, 2011, 12:23:14 PM
Thanks henderson.  :)

Road building pics-

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Marty the dozer man. Honest and fair.

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Looking north.

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Entrance to my brother place on right.

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My brothers place.

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Marty makes the first curve.

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Looking around the curve.

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I'll try and get some pics of the culverts tomorrow. And also some new pics of the guest cottage.

 :P
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 27, 2011, 07:01:26 PM
Nice road, Scott. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: duncanshannon on September 27, 2011, 08:16:28 PM
Is road building something to hire out? I need a drive way. I have about 300' cleared to about 18' wide, cleared smooth.  I need to clear another 300' worth thats raw land right now. I will minimally drop the trees. Question is... do I rent the equipment, order the class 5, culvert and other things and attempt it myself (day job is an IT desk jocky... no experience here).  Or just pay the $5k and hire it out?

i'm leaning twoards hiring it out, but would be up for trying it myself it it was reasonable.

thanks...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 28, 2011, 03:51:41 AM
Unless you are like Glenn, I'd hire it out. It's a big job.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Danfish on September 28, 2011, 05:19:31 AM
Somethings are best left to the pro's and unless you have the experience operating heavy equipment...road building is one for sure. Now and into the future that road will see a lot of wear and tear, you will want it to hold up. Besides when you add up equipment rental, road base and finish material, culvert, etc., the $5K doesn't look all that bad...money well spent!

I remember the first time I jumped on a D4 cat...damn near buried the thing in the hole I dug trying to grade a level spot!!!
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on September 28, 2011, 10:28:49 AM
 Now that's a road! Looks real good Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 28, 2011, 11:54:00 AM
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Culverts we installed to cross the dry creekbed. These are 24" pipes, cost $335 each.

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Looking up the hill from the creek crossing SW.

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Aftermath of the phone company mistake. We have been promised this will be cleaned up in the near future.

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I managed to complete the sofits on the guest cottage recently.

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Our propane setup. I don't think I ever showed this before.

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This hasn't got much use lately unfortunately.  :(

I had a very busy summer which slowed progress down greatly. Hopefully I can get things going again this fall. Thanks for looking.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: duncanshannon on September 29, 2011, 12:41:01 PM
looking good!

and sold... hiring the driveway out. thanks for the input folks.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: umtallguy on September 29, 2011, 04:09:21 PM
if you armor the up and downstream entrance of the culverts with rocks they will resist washing much better.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 29, 2011, 06:18:50 PM
That's in the plan. Didn't get that far yet.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on September 29, 2011, 09:02:57 PM
Unless you are like Glenn, I'd hire it out. It's a big job.

....I could not stand to miss all of the fun... but if you are not crazy like me... maybe Scott is right.... :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: henderson on September 30, 2011, 07:36:06 PM
WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR A REGULATOR FOR YOUR PROPANE SET UP.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on September 30, 2011, 07:53:25 PM
WHAT ARE YOU USING FOR A REGULATOR FOR YOUR PROPANE SET UP.


Um...a regulator. It's hiding behind one of the tanks I think.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Redoverfarm on October 01, 2011, 01:35:45 AM
Like the post Scott.  You need to try to get a couple of photos of both structures to give us a better idea of the layout.  I think you might have earlier.  Maybe wait until you are further along.   d*

Just wondering what the cost difference was in 2-24" pipes rather than 1-48".  Been my experience that with two you are more likely to accumulate more trash build-up but then again maybe it is just a wet weather spring and they will suffice.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 01, 2011, 05:35:14 AM
Thanks John. I don't know what a 48" pipe cost. These where the largest available where I was buying them. Anything bigger whould have been taller than the channel and required more fill to grade over since you are suposed to have 1/2 the pipe diameter in fill above. I'll try to get some more pics as things move along.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bevis on October 19, 2011, 03:30:47 PM
  Wow, nice build on the cabin.  I like the detail.  Read up to page 35 last night, and came back this evening to finish the rest of it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on October 19, 2011, 04:39:00 PM
Glad you enjoyed it. And welcome to the forum Bevis.  w*

FYI- We had to light the stove for the first time this season tonight.

Toasty warm  :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 06, 2011, 11:29:17 AM
The cabin survived it's first earthquake last night. 5.2 at 11:00pm No damage. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: duncanshannon on November 06, 2011, 12:33:52 PM
yikes!  i dont think of earthquakes when I think of oklahoma... they happen often?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on November 07, 2011, 06:14:13 PM
they are rare but we had another one tonight! 4.7
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: mtman on November 16, 2011, 11:00:23 AM
yikes!  i dont think of earthquakes when I think of oklahoma... they happen often?

Me either! Hope all is well now Scott. Don't think I could handle the ground shaking on me. ;)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Cropping Up on December 14, 2011, 08:14:44 PM

I just read through this thread, start to present, in one sitting.  Wow.  This is probably the finest build I've come across in small houses and is a huge inspiration.  Congratulations, Scott, and fantastic job.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: speedfunk on December 15, 2011, 04:30:10 AM
I have read scott that people are starting to figure out it might be the fracking thats disturbing the earth?  Any thoughts?
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 29, 2011, 10:55:27 AM
I have read scott that people are starting to figure out it might be the fracking thats disturbing the earth?  Any thoughts?

I don't know anything about it. I do know there is a fault located near the epicenter of these quakes.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 29, 2011, 10:56:23 AM
I just read through this thread, start to present, in one sitting.  Wow.  This is probably the finest build I've come across in small houses and is a huge inspiration.  Congratulations, Scott, and fantastic job.

Thanks. I hope more people will decide to build small.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on January 05, 2012, 12:46:21 PM
Ohio apparently says yes - quakes caused by fracking.

http://rt.com/usa/news/fracking-ohio-quake-earth-165/
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Carla_M on February 01, 2012, 09:30:03 AM
Hi Scott, lurker here.  Yours is yet another super nice cabin on this forum. It is difficult to decide who has the nicest, there are many I like here. So many of you do such nice work. I find the exterior wall treatment especially attractive. Unique is just about the right word. :)
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 16, 2012, 12:16:43 PM
All Pics will be removed at the end of the week. If you want them grab them while you can. Thanks Country plans it was fun. I'm going offline.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ajbremer on February 16, 2012, 12:30:40 PM
It'll be sad to see you go sir.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: kenhill on February 16, 2012, 12:39:48 PM
No don't go.  We need you.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Bob S. on February 16, 2012, 01:21:35 PM
By Scott: You will be missed. Your house is the essences of what this forum is about.  :-[
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on February 16, 2012, 02:58:12 PM
Scott:


I'm checking to see if we can setup a Photobucket pro account and move your photos over there so they can stay visible on the old posts. Is that what you were using and Photobucket is what you are closing down? Do you have any objection to us doing this - perhaps you would rather go more invisible?


I'm not yet sure Photobucket can do this.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on February 16, 2012, 03:08:14 PM
The pics are on a private server John. If you want to archive them help yourself.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on February 16, 2012, 03:08:56 PM
The links break if they are anywhere else than where they are at present
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: muldoon on February 16, 2012, 03:21:57 PM
thanks for the heads up, I archived them.  only took 8.6 seconds too  :)

[~/www/scott]# wget -r --no-parent http://www.brightok.net/~cyscott1-ss/pics/

FINISHED --2012-02-16 17:20:44--
Downloaded: 435 files, 64M in 8.6s (7.51 MB/s)

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on February 16, 2012, 03:30:26 PM
Wow:


I'm glad muldoon knows how to do this stuff!


Maybe a photobucket Pro account can be setup so that we can have a folder we can put these into (and redirect the urls to..) I've got an email request into PB.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on February 16, 2012, 03:45:44 PM
I have all the pages with images saved as html, if we can figure out how to use them easily...

The issue with the archived images is connecting them to the links in each post where they appear. Each post has the path to the image as it presently sits. Each of those would need editing....


OR  it may be possible to so a redirect command on the server somehow that would redirect the image link to the new location. No idea how to do that myself.

Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Rob_O on February 16, 2012, 04:38:27 PM

OR  it may be possible to so a redirect command on the server somehow that would redirect the image link to the new location. No idea how to do that myself.

It would be some sort of a database edit where *oldserver/filename* > *newserver/filename*. I think muldoon can be more helpful with the specifics on how to accomplish it
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on February 16, 2012, 05:40:02 PM
I don't know about John, but I can not do that.  I know nothing about SQL databases other than that
they exist
they make things like this function
they are big files
if messed up, you're messed up.....
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Southern Steve on February 17, 2012, 07:44:03 AM
Scott.....will truly miss you, your posts, and your fine building!  Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Carla_M on February 17, 2012, 11:00:40 AM
All Pics will be removed at the end of the week. If you want them grab them while you can. Thanks Country plans it was fun. I'm going offline.

I'm probably crazy, but when I read that last line I had a terrible thought. I hope that going offline means just that, a return to a simpler way of life, closing down the internet account and as a result losing the place where the images have been stored. Or is there a hidden meaning and something godawful is being planned? Is this one of those I never thought he'd do that moments? I hope not, but I have personally missed a similar verbal clue with someone who was dear to me. Absolutely hope I'm wrong but I don't know what I can do. Forum users are pretty well hidden if they want to be.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 17, 2012, 11:09:09 AM
We will really miss you Scott.  You are a staple here.  If you split, thanks for all of the support and you are always welcome at our place too.  Don't lose our address or email.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: archimedes on February 17, 2012, 11:18:42 AM
Sorry to see you go. 

I really enjoyed following your build thread.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: glenn kangiser on February 17, 2012, 11:47:12 AM
My internet was down yesterday.  I also archived all of the pix and sub-folder pix as well as a text copy of the topic (print - select all - copy - save to MS word doc - has pix names and locations to ref back to the old names. )

As Don says - looks like a manual reconstruct unless someone else knows something better - at least we have the critical info.  Thanks for the warning, Scott.  It has been an honor having you here.   :(

Thanks so much for all of the hard work you went to sharing this with us.  We really enjoy and enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Rob_O on February 17, 2012, 02:27:17 PM

As Don says - looks like a manual reconstruct unless someone else knows something better - at least we have the critical info. 

This should help

http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-find-and-replace-text-in-mysql-database-using-sql/ (http://www.mydigitallife.info/how-to-find-and-replace-text-in-mysql-database-using-sql/)

Just need to replace *http://www.brightok.net/~cyscott1-ss/pics/* with *http://www.photobucket.com/new_folder_name/* and keep all the same file names.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: muldoon on February 17, 2012, 04:23:25 PM
it looks like all the images have been moved to photobucket and the links in this thread have been updated to point to them.  I do not think this thread is in any risk of being lost. 

Scott, best wishes to you.  I have watched this thread since before I joined.  It was my motivation for joining and launching on my own journey.  I am sorry to see you go but I understand when it's time it's time.  Feel free to come back whenever you want.  I'll be on the lookout for a new user with a Bruce Willis avatar giving sage advice. 

I wish the best of health and luck to you and your family. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: John Raabe on February 17, 2012, 05:45:59 PM
Thanks to everyone (especially MtnDon and Muldoon) for the clever digital alchemy and for helping to preserve the story of this fine project.

Best wishes to Scott and any new adventures his future holds.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: phalynx on February 17, 2012, 07:24:56 PM
So long Scott!  We will miss you around here for sure... :(
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Sassy on February 17, 2012, 08:26:27 PM
We'll miss you Scott  :(  You did such a beautiful job on your cabin - creative ideas, off-topic discussions.  I wish you the best...
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on March 13, 2012, 04:41:48 AM
Hate to see you go (gone?) Scott :(

Best wishes
Erik
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Huge29 on March 17, 2013, 09:41:10 PM
What does it mean where the OP's line now says "no edits?"  With other forums in which I participate, the posts can only be edited for about a day for this very reason.  We now have a 40 page thread worth zero as the OP apparently took his ball and went home or maybe I missed something since no explanation was given.  Seems odd to show it all off presumably to get feedback and then decide to pull out as if all he wanted was information, but now is not willing to share the final product??  I guess if the pics are hosted elsewhere there is no way of stopping that from being deleted. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on March 18, 2013, 10:18:17 AM
the "no edits" usually signifies we took that action because of some difficulty between member and management.

In this case the member was closing the site where the images were posted. We saved all the images and had them linked from a photobucket account. It was working and the images are still in photobucket but something has broken, not sure what or of it's easy to correct at this point.  There is a way to get the image url and copy it (open message with "quote" feature, copy url (http://..............thruto   .jpg) and paste in new window or tab. The images are there. Once that is done the images will show in that post. But if you close the browser and try again it may not link back. I haven't a clue as to why.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: MountainDon on March 18, 2013, 01:20:32 PM
still puzzled but this link should allow anyone to view the pictures only
http://s1259.photobucket.com/user/ScottAarchive/library/cp
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: ScottA on December 12, 2018, 06:53:09 PM
Hi all the cabin is still standing. My wife died last year but I’m still here at deer run.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Mike 870 on December 13, 2018, 12:56:09 AM
Sorry to hear about your wife Scott.  Your project is one of my favorites on here.  Reminds me of the CP glory days of logging on and seeing like 20 different build  updates to read about.  Glad to hear it is still standing and you are still getting enjoyment from it.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: azgreg on December 13, 2018, 06:28:16 AM
Sorry for your loss Scott.  :(
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Migraine Craftsman on December 13, 2018, 06:58:24 AM
My condolences  :(
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: OlJarhead on January 04, 2019, 04:45:03 AM
So sorry to hear Scott.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: muldoon on February 01, 2019, 08:43:39 AM
my condolences scott.  so sorry to hear this news. 
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: waterbug on February 03, 2019, 03:49:14 PM
I always looked forward to seeing your updates and pictures.

I'm sorry to hear about your wife Scott. You have my condolences.
Title: Re: Deer Run- 16x26 in Oklahoma
Post by: Rys on February 06, 2019, 04:22:21 AM
Heartfelt condolences.
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