Good article giving info on the Official Conspiracy Theory as espoused by the USG, identifying the suspects and where they are coming from and why.
I am surprised that we have so many Israeli US dual citizens running our country. MAakes you wonder where their loyalty lies.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/government/fraud/911_attack/news.php?q=1207934314
Players and ID's are toward the bottom of the page.
What's next? How far can these sort of shenanigans go?
Oil? Power? Control? My god is bigger than your god?
Which brings to mind, if god is so all powerful, can he make a rock soooo large he can't lift it??
Interesting point that there were so few required to pull it off -- the rest were mostly confused sheep, and the reason the secret is being guarded so well is that it could be a death sentence if any of these traitors talked.
...and he's probably still working on it. The god of these people is surely not the real God.
What was it that Churchill said? Something about so much owed to so many by so few?? aarrghh :-\
Thats good enough for me, Sparks.
An airlines security insider told me he could not understand how they could sacrifice so many people to forward their cause. He knew they did it. It took about half an hour to pry that admission out of him. I could tell he was really repulsed by what he knew.
In the scheme of things -- from their point of view ...
QuoteWhy kill your own people?
This is the toughest part for the uninitiated to understand. The people who planned and executed the treasonous, heinous crimes of 9-11 are largely drawn from a handful of people known as NeoCons. Many of these are current or former members of PNAC (Project for the New American Century). Many are disciples of Leo Strauss, a German-born, fascistic, political philosopher who taught at the University of Chicago. Strauss thought that the average person was too stupid to decide what is in their best interest and that a ruling elite should govern all of humanity.
...we are nothing but breeders of cannon fodder for the big guns of the elite and their military industrial complex.
Glen, there are small handful of us still around...the sixties ....and ... seventies....and maybe a smidgen of the truth........even a little bit of truth is better than none.....KTF.....
I had my eyes opened by my second grade teacher...meaner than hell but she told it like it was. That would have been in about 1959. They can promote their lies all they want but some of us can see through them.
In general the type of people who make it to the top didn't get there by being anyone you can trust or anyone who cares about the people they consider to be below them.
They have learned to generate fear by giving the people a common enemy they are scared to death of. They cause the 95% of the people who will give up anything for protection from the bogeyman to do just that -- they willingly give up their freedoms one by one for protection by the real enemy who is in control of the country.
They teach the children of the fearful in their controlled state schools, to respond to bells and whistles. To think that they must not think for themselves, that they must have team spirit, to unquestioningly follow their mascot whether right or wrong. All authority in a public school is a representative of god himself and parents who question it will be quickly brought into line by police and even court action.
America -- the land of the free. Ha ... free to do what. To sit back -- shut up and go with the flow.... that's what.
Sit back -- ignore reality, ignore physics, because that's what our infallible leaders have told us.
Believe the unbelievable lie because its what our leaders have told us and to face reality is to admit that we are being royally screwed over and we just can't bear to face that. It just couldn't be true that everything they have told us is a lie. Nope -- better to close our eyes and pretend it isn't happening. Yes... sleep......sleep.........sleep
Sorry. I don't buy it.
On Sept. 11, 2001 I sat down in front of a tv about 20 seconds before the second plane hit the Trade Center. My only thoughts were something like, how could they do this?
The next day it was more like, why did 'we' let 'them' do it?
And when I attempt to discuss the subject with anyone today, I get treated like i've got the plague!!
I am an Instrument/Commercial rated pilot and the second I heard that a plane hit the WTC and the official conspiracy lies by the criminals holding office, I knew that our government was at the very least assisting it to happen if not the full sponsor of it.
In my little 6 passenger plane, I have been a very short distance off course on IFR due to turbulence near a restricted area, and been intercepted by the military. I knew there was no way one of those planes could have done all that flying around off course without getting intercepted.
Military planes were ordered to stand down on 9-11.
War games were scheduled the same places the same day to make a cover of confusion.
http://georgewashington.blogspot.com/2006/02/all-roads-lead-to-dick-cheney.html
Bush family members were in charge of security at the affected airports and WTC at that time.
Jeb Bush declared Martial law in Florida 4 days before 9/11.
It looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
It is a duck.
Envy you Glenn, I wanted to get a pilot's license in the worst way. However a certain character defect kept that from happening.
Man, there's a lot of ducks out there.
100 octane avgas is $5.24 a gallon locally. It's a little cheaper at a couple of regional air fields with self serve.
Private planes just became even more pricey
I got it, Sparks but the first year here in Mariposa the plane had corrosion at annual so it never came out of the shop. After landing here I wasn't looking to go anywhere else so I don't know if I'll fly again. I did more in 10 years than most people will do in their lives flying casually, so it doesn't matter to me.
Wow -- that gas is up there -- seems 6 years ago it was still $2.50
More incentive to not worry about it.
The 9-11 subject has gotten me into more trouble than anything else on the net.
Good stuff Glenn.
It appears this is a limited participation thread.
Some people have an opinion, some don't.
Me?? A nature lover. Just watching the ducks.....
I know what you mean and I don't care what people think about me. I will present it to them every so often because every so often one of them will put two thoughts together and it will click and things will start to make sense.
Most do not want to know and would rather believe things are all peachy keen-- like the Germans around 1940. I keep beating this dead horse because it is the big lie that started all of the crap we're in now. It is when the criminals took control of our country. (OK -- so when the bigger criminals took control-- yup -- we've had more than our share).
[deadhorse]
Our leaders know what is best, will protect us, look out for us and will do what is best to protect us and keep us the best country in the world forever. Our freedom and privacy is a small price to pay.
Not.
"NOT" How dare you say 'not' ?? rofl rofl You some kind of infidel??
I hope so.
I just can't understand how the majority will buy the official lies without question.
I can understand them not being able to do anything about it but not their buying it.
Even many in our military are not buying it and have given their lives to stop our criminal leaders.
Info on the recently stolen nukes and the dead heroes who stopped the theft - the ducks again. Note - one nuke did go missing -- look for it to show up in a city near you -- courtesy of Michael Chertoff's gut feeling (dual Israeli/American citizen -- order of loyalty not specified).
http://www.pim-fortuyn.nl/pfforum/topic.asp?ARCHIVE=true&TOPIC_ID=53501
Several airmen gave their lives to try to stop that one. Dead of various questionable causes but still dead --
It might have been ducks...bird flu? ???
Re: "The majority buying the official lies"
Remember the Maine. The Lusitania. A day which will live in infamy. Tonkin? Who's pigs?
Ollie North? Osama o' Bama??? Flight 800......Grateful I had no reason to go to Paris that day.
Manipulation....Domination........the end of a nation .......
I do not fear for my own life. Only the grandchildren.
Uummmm, shotgun recommendation????
Quote from: sparks on April 16, 2008, 11:25:15 PM
It appears this is a limited participation thread.
I don't have anything to add, 'cuz you guys hit the nail on the head perfectly.. But, just for the record, I'm cheering you on. :)
Ernest T,
I don't believe anybody has hit the nail on the head yet. However, there are those out there that are getting much, much closer. Stay tuned.
Andrew, it is nice to know that another one is at least aware. Thanks for posting that comment. I feel this is important information for people to understand and not hide from even if they don't or can't do anything about it.
People knowing things like this may be the only thing that has kept our criminals occupying the White House from bombing Iran or even setting a nuke off in our own country and blaming it on the Muslims to tighten their stranglehold on the fearful unknowing citizens of our country. It also helps them to make plans - possibly in a different better manner for the care of their families, loved ones and future.
It can be part of the explanation of why a few of the city types are selling out and moving to the country to build homes and be more self reliant.
What a terrible thing to say of our leaders, you say. [shocked] Why would you say such a thing? hmm
Because it has been done many times in the past, and the criminals in office are worse than they were in the past. You can tell what they will do in the future by studying what they have done in the past, then reading the fine print written between the BS.
http://www.jonesreport.com/articles/070906_false_flag.html
http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/Terrorism/10_False_Flag_Operations.html
The Reichstag fire is an interesting one as it is a close parallel to 9/11 and the Bush family was quite close to Hitler in business dealings. It looks like they learned some great lessons from him. ::)
Here's a good site - http://patriotsquestion911.com/
Quote from: glenn kangiser on April 18, 2008, 12:06:55 AM
What a terrible thing to say of our leaders, you say. [shocked] Why would you say such a thing? hmm
No, I'd never say that... :) Try as you might, you can't surprise me with any of this. ;) This is common daily discussion in our household...
Interesting point you bring up. Consistency on the part of the ones who have a clue of what is going on. Common daily discussion of this in your family and yet you agree with what we are saying.
If there was not truth in it, then the story would not be consistent. This applies also to the official government false flag operation.
It is so full of holes that they will not let a legitimate investigation be done of it. The only way you can believe it is if you are willing to completely ignore the truth and facts as you know them and enter into he fantasy land of the government lies, where a woman can stand in a gaping hole waving a flag for help, in a building that is supposed to be hot enough to be molten and instantly falling.
The evidence was whisked away immediately to be melted down so it could not be analyzed.
I think it is great that your parents make you aware of the situation in the US and the world, and that they care enough to teach you all how to be self sufficient.
I can only agree with what has been said here. I find it a relief to see that
there are still people in the world thinking for themselves.
I just wanted to tell Glenn and Sassy, I really admire you and Sassy,
I enjoy reading what both of you have to say, and have yet to disagree
with it.
Also, I think your house is awesome. My only complaint would have to be my almost
9 year old daughter is rather disgusted that we are building a "boring" above ground house
when clearly we could do so much better. :)
Thanks so much for the encouragement, Heather.
Seems you have a very smart young daughter with some very strong points. :)
It is hard to keep trying to get people to look at what is going on around them when the vast majority of them don't want to know, think you are crazy for not believing the official lies like most everyone else, and, being good people themselves, they want to believe that their leaders have the same high regard for life that they do.
If only that were the case.
The citizens of the US are nothing more than meat to the greedy power mongers holding the offices of leadership of our country now. Nothing more than a breeding factory for the production of sons and daughters to sacrifice their lives and sanity for the sake of corporate greed, oil, power, the guaranteed provision of oil and protection to Israel, and protection of private contractors who benefit stock holdings and corporations held by our politicians.
http://www.wakeupfromyourslumber.com/node/4504 Guaranteed oil - we are required to carry a reserve for them.
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/Oil%20Guarantee.pdf Renewed quietly every 5 years.
The NYFD fire fighters know many of their people were sacrificed to forward the cause of the current regime and maybe daddy Bush's (and others) NWO?, in the 9/11 attack, which answered the needs of the PNAC suggestion that a new Pearl Harbor was necessary to put the plan into motion. http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/911_firefighters.html
How convenient to have the attacks happen on the very same day the attack games were being played and directed by Cheney and others in NY. That must have really added to the confusion -- as if it wasn't planned. (Note that they used the same MO later in Britain in the bombings there-- this is bigger than just the US).
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/455418/bush_knew_of_9_11_cheney_forced_norad_to_stand_down/ (This is a must see.)
QuoteThe strategic "transformation" of the U.S. military into an imperialistic force of global domination would require a huge increase in defense spending to "a minimum level of 3.5 to 3.8 percent of gross domestic product, adding $15 billion to $20 billion to total defense spending annually," the PNAC plan said.
"The process of transformation," the plan said, "is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event—like a new Pearl Harbor."
American Free Press asked Christopher Maletz, assistant director of the PNAC about what was meant by the need for "a new Pearl Harbor."
"They needed more money to up the defense budget for raises, new arms, and future capabilities," Maletz said. "Without some disaster or catastrophic event" neither the politicians nor the military would have approved, Maletz said.
The "new Pearl Harbor," in the form of the terror attacks of Sept. 11, provided the necessary catalyst to put the global war plan into effect. Congress quickly allocated $40 billion to fund the "war on terrorism" shortly after 9-11.
from http://www.americanfreepress.net/12_24_02/America_Pearl_Harbored/america_pearl_harbored.html
http://georgewashington2.blogspot.com/2008/04/molten-steel-flowed-under-ground-zero.html
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/28 http://www.ae911truth.org/profile.php?uid=996641
Karen S. Johnson - Arizona State Senator states:
"More than six years after 9/11, we still have not had a thorough investigation of the causes of that tragedy. I am so impressed by the research of Dr. Steven Jones, Frank Legge, Tony Szamboti, David Ray Griffin, and so many others. My concern deepens every time I read a new article. As the evidence of controlled demolition mounts, my desire for a new investigation increases. I want to add my voice to the voices of AE for 911 Truth."
"I have been an Arizona State Senator for four years. Before that I served in the AZ House of Representatives for 8 years. Don't ask me how this happened -- I much prefer being a mother and homemaker. My husband, Jerry, and I have 11 children and 33 grandchildren. But I am concerned that our Constitution is being whittled away in small pieces and that we are at a critical point in our history, especially with the events of 9/11. So I find myself neck-deep in politics. I hope I have done some good."
More proof of government protection of 9/11 participants and FBI, CIA operatives involved, Cheney stand down order, actions questioned, etc. with sources.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=3422
From the Iraqwar forum:
Quote
Morons and Magic: A Reply to George Monbiot
by atheo on 26.05.2008 [14:25 ]
By David Ray Griffin
03/07/07 "ICH " — - In "Bayoneting a Scarecrow The 9/11 conspiracy theories are a coward's cult." (Guardian, February 20), George Monbiot accuses members of the 9/11 truth movement of being "morons" and "idiots" who believe in "magic." Having in his previous attack---"A 9/11 conspiracy virus is sweeping the world," Guardian, February 6---called me this movement's "high priest," he now describes my 9/11 writing as a "concatenation of ill-attested nonsense."
If my books are moronic nonsense, then people who have endorsed them must be morons. Would Monbiot really wish to apply this label to Michel Chossudovsky, Richard Falk, Ray McGovern, Michael Meacher, John McMurtry, Marcus Raskin, Rosemary Ruether, Howard Zinn, and the late Rev. William Sloane Coffin, who, after a stint in the CIA, became one of America's leading civil rights, anti-war, and anti-nuclear activists?
If anyone who believes that 9/11 was an inside job is by definition an idiot, then Moncbiot would have to sling that label at Colonel Robert Bowman, former head of the U.S. "Star Wars" program; Andreas von Bülow, former State Secretary in the German Federal Ministry of Defense; former CIA analysts Bill Christison and Robert David Steele; former Scientific American columnist A. K. Dewdney; General Leonid Ivashov, former chief of staff of the Russian armed forces; Colonel Ronald D. Ray, former U.S. Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense; all the members of Scholars for 9/11 Truth, Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, Veterans for 9/11 Truth, and Pilots for 9/11 Truth; and most of the individuals listed under "Professors Question 9/11" on the "Patriots Question 9/11" website.
One of the reasons these people reject the government's conspiracy theory is that, if they were to accept the official account of the destruction of the World Trade Centre, they would need to affirm magical beliefs. A few examples:
The Twin Towers came straight down, which means that each building's 287 steel columns all had to fail simultaneously; to believe this could happen without explosives is to believe in magic.
At the onset of each tower's collapse, steel beams were ejected out as far as 600 feet; to believe that these horizontal ejections could be explained by gravitational energy, which is vertical, is to believe in magic.
Virtually all of the concrete in the towers was pulverized into extremely fine dust particles; to believe that fire plus gravity could have done this is to believe in magic.
WTC 7 and the towers came down at virtually free-fall speed, meaning that the lower floors, with all their steel and concrete, provided no resistance to the upper floors; to believe this could happen without explosives is to believe in magic.
Pools of molten metal were found under each building. Because steel does not begin to melt until it reaches about 1,540°C and yet the fires could not have gotten over 1000°C, to accept the fire theory is to believe in magic.
Monbiot, regarding the 9/11 truth movement's conspiracy theory as a wrong-headed distraction, fails to see that the obviously false and truly distracting conspiracy theory is the official 9/11 myth, which has been used to justify imperial wars and increased militarism, thereby distracting attention from global apartheid and the ecological crisis. We focus on the 9/11 myth because, until it is exposed, getting our governments to focus wholeheartedly on the truly urgent issues of our time will be impossible.
(http://www.rense.com/1.imagesH/B7_dees.jpg)
http://www.rense.com/
Yes -- there are UFO's and Aliens there but only because he allows all a voice.
Ignore them if you don't like them and check the facts on the above. Tons of credible stories there too-- check them out then check the facts or ---research the questions you have.
September 11, 2001 and December 7, 1941 seem to have a lot in common. Amongst other dates in infamy.
I hear you Glenn, loud and clear.
DRB's
Rudy Giuliani kinda looks like an alien in that picture.
Rudy is ugly no matter how you take his picture. The firefighters have disowned him due to the crap he pulled on them.
http://www.infowars.net/articles/march2007/120307Giuliani_onion.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaCYEEO-58I
Quote from: sparks on June 01, 2008, 03:46:00 AM
September 11, 2001 and December 7, 1941 seem to have a lot in common. Amongst other dates in infamy.
I hear you Glenn, loud and clear.
DRB's
You got it. Sparks. Anytime the elite want something to happen they assist it - allow it to happen then use it to promote what they want. A typical false flag operation. They help it to happen then blame it on someone else or make someone scapegoats.
QuoteCongress was specific in its finding against the 1941 White House: Kimmel and Short were cut off from the intelligence pipeline that located Japanese forces advancing on Hawaii. Then, after the successful Japanese raid, both commanders were relieved of their commands, blamed for failing to ward off the attack, and demoted in rank.
December 7, 1941: A Setup from the Beginning
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=103
9/11 answered the PNAC's desire for a "New Pearl Harbor". How convenient. Coincidence? hmm NOT. >:(
http://tvnewslies.org/html/pnac_neo-con_artists.html
There are many more examples of US Government false flag operations. If anyone wants to know more we can post them. Things haven't gotten better with todays politician. They are getting much worse , as we are getting to the rotted scummy refuse at the bottom of the barrel now.
If Bushco is responsable for 9/11 why are the insurance companies sueing Saudi Arabia for $5B?
http://www.military.com/news/article/saudis-hit-with-5b-lawsuit-over-911.html?col=1186032320397 (http://www.military.com/news/article/saudis-hit-with-5b-lawsuit-over-911.html?col=1186032320397)
Greed? Deep pockets?
True -- they found the "hijackers" who were not on any passenger list - to be mostly Saudi's. Why did we then go out and attack Afghanistan?...then Iraq, who Bush admitted had nothing to do with 9/11 in public when questioned.
We knew the so called hijackers were mostly Saudi's immediately. Motivation to attack other places was likely because they were with us. "Either your with us or against us." (W)
Why did a possible US/Brit double agent go through Pakistan to get $100.000.00 to Atta?
QuoteSuch a war would have been far more justifiable than Afghanistan or Iraq. No country was more responsible than Pakistan for 9/11. Pakistan hosted Al Qaeda's headquarters in Kashmir. Most of its training camps were in Kashmir and Pakistan's Tribal Areas--not Afghanistan. On July 22, 2004, The Guardian reported that General Mahmoud Ahmed, chief of the ISI under Musharraf, had sent $100,000 to Mohammed Atta, the lead 9/11 hijacker. The Wall Street Journal confirmed that Pakistani intelligence had financed 9/11, but the 9/11 Commission decided not to investigate our "strategic ally in the war on terrorism."
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x321778
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=125x121000
Sorry the refs are not better - going from memory but couldn't find the old article.
Back in 2004 or 2005 I remember hearing radio ads paid for by Saudi Arabia. The ads proclaimed how much a friend the kingdom was to the US and how they wanted to help us not hurt us. That's something I always wondered about...we go around fighting wars for freedom and democracy but we protect Saudi Arabia which is a monarcy not democracy
It is also the home of dubya's honorary brother.
Wonder if they made a little side deal to get the "hijackers" to pull the stunt?
QuoteThe family of the number one suspect in this horrible attack on America, were not only allowed to leave the country, but were allowed to leave with assistance by our government, and without being questioned by the FBI.
The FBI, in its defense, were not permitted to keep the Bin Ladens in the country. They were not permitted to ask if they knew anything about the attacks. They were not permitted to ask if they knew where Osama was. George Bush wouldn't allow it.
Why? He was 'worried about their safety.'
*The Bin Ladens are not the only Saudi family with Bush connections.
Who else "owes" the Bush family? Or who else does the Bush family "owe"? The entire royal family according to all reports.
Why might the Saudis owe the Bush family?
Well, in 1990, when Saddam Hussein invaded Kuwait, it was really the Saudi government that felt threatened.
George Bush Sr. came to the rescue, and got Hussein out of Kuwait.
According to a March 2003 article in The New Yorker, some members of the royal family consider the Bush family part of their "extended family." Haifa, wife of Prince Bandar, the Saudi ambassador to the U.S., says that George Sr. and Barbara 'are like my mother and father. I know if I ever needed anything I could go to them.'
Robert Baer former case officer with the CIA wrote a book entitled Sleeping With The Devil. In the book he says that George Sr. calls the Saudi prince Bandar Bush.
Prince Bandar invests in the Carlyle Group. He attended Barbara Bush's 75th birthday party. He donated one million dollars to the George Bush Presidential Library And Museum. He also donated another one million dollars to Barbara Bush's literacy program.
*When the ballot counting in Florida was causing all kinds of problems for George W. Bush, Prince Bandar sent the royal family lawyer - also George Jr.'s lawyer, James Baker - into Florida to "direct the battle for the ballots."
Baker's firm also went to bat for the Saudi royal empire to try and protect them from all the lawsuits being filed by the families of 9/11.
*Attempts to dig deeper into Saudi Arabia's role in the attacks, were blocked by George W.
*When Congress released its own investigation into 9/11, George W. "blacked out" 28 pages that had to do with the Saudis.
*Two nights after the attack, (according to The New Yorker), George W. went out on the Truman Balcony of the White House. He went out to smoke a cigar and unwind. He asked one close friend to join him. Who was it? Prince Bandar, or "Bandar Bush," as George Sr. calls him.
George W. told Bandar that if the U.S. couldn't get any of the men involved in the attacks to cooperate, then he would turn the men over to Bandar. Prince Bandar of Saudi Arabia. Saudi Arabia, home to fifteen of the nineteen hijackers.
http://www.epinions.com/content_3619135620
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I read this book about 3 yrs ago when it 1st came out - quite an eye-opener. Also read The Halliburton Agenda
This was at a time I was still trying to prove Glenn wrong ::) So I was reading everything I could get my hands on...
[noidea' heh
It may take an awful long time..... [crz]
The Unspeakable Truth of 9/11
by P.A. Buchanan – September 11, 2008
or the 'dots' you are not supposed to connect...
Quote- Larry Silverstein, a New York property tycoon purchased a 99-year lease for the entire WTC complex just 6 months prior to the 9/11 attacks. That was the first time in its 33-year history the complex had ever changed ownership. Mr. Silverstein, who must have known about the asbestos problem, made a down-payment of $124 million on this $3.2 billion complex, and promptly insured it for $3.6 billion. He also covered the complex against "terrorist attacks". In the contract Mr. Silverstein was also specifically given the right to rebuild the structures if they were destroyed. Mr. Silverstein's first order of business as the new owner was to change the company responsible for the security of the complex. The new security company he hired was Securacom (now Stratasec). George W. Bush's brother, Marvin Bush, was on its board of directors, and Marvin's cousin, Wirt Walker III, was its CEO. According to public records, not only did Securacom provide electronic security for the World Trade Center, it also covered Dulles International Airport and United Airlines - two key players in the 9/11 attacks. Following the attacks, Mr. Silverstein filed two insurance claims for the maximum amount
of the policy ($7.2B), based on the two — in Mr. Silverstein's view — separate attacks. The insurance company, Swiss Re, paid Mr. Silverstein $4.6 Billion, still a princely return on a relatively paltry investment of $124 million. Incidentally, it's worth noting that one of Mr. Silverstein's closest friends, a person with whom it's said he speaks almost daily by phone, is none other than former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. It was also Mr. Netanyahu, who back in 1986 coined the phrase The War on Terror... (www.informationliberation.com/index.php?id=15459)
- Back in October 2000, about 11 months prior to September 11, 2001, a former Israeli Defense Force member and veteran of the 1973 Yom Kippur War overheard a conversation in Hebrew in New Jersey, "The Americans will learn what it is to live with terrorists after the planes hit the twins in September... The Arabs are so stupid. They don't even imagine that we are using them." (www.muckrakerreport.com/id387.html)
http://therearenosunglasses.wordpress.com/2008/09/12/the-unspeakable-truth-of-911/