Collapse

[LeoinSA]

Don't know since I've not been here for years and years as some have...

Might even have been discussed a time or seventeen...

But this here: http://www.energybulletin.net/node/23259 might provoke some discussion.

I do not necessarily agree with all contained at the link - and it was written in 2006 - so some might not be as applicable as it was... Or it might be even more applicable.

Howsomeever I do heartily agree with slide 20 when mentioning the two Capitalist parties - that one and the other one.  Nary a spit of difference in how they kowtow to their corporate puppet masters.  And y'all know exactly who the ultimate losers are gonna be.

That said, do check out Orlov's blog http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/- especially the three posts from 10.27 - 11.1 & 11.2...

[glenn kangiser]

I pretty well agree with most of what he says.

I can take care of myself and friends.  Who needs infrastructure.  If we learn to take care of ourselves we don't need corporate farms and stores with just in time inventory.  Oh yeah.... wiping on leaves rather than Charmin will not be as easy or pretty, but it's doable.

[Phssthpok]

I pretty well agree with most of what he says.

I can take care of myself and friends.  Who needs infrastructure.  If we learn to take care of ourselves we don't need corporate farms and stores with just in time inventory.  Oh yeah.... wiping on leaves rather than Charmin will not be as easy or pretty, but it's doable.

Seriously....what's the ACTUAL difference between washing a cloth diaper soiled by a child, and one soiled by an adult? 

Boiling water and bleach...'nuff said.

[glenn kangiser]

The rest of the world is watching the fall.

http://english.pravda.ru/opinion/columnists/21-10-2010/115454-falling_life_expectancy_and_the_collapse_of_the_US-0/

"The Wall Street Journal, the bible of world capitalism, has in an article mentioning the abandonment of projects to pave thousands of roads in various regions of the United States because there is no money to do so. John Habermann, a professor at Purdue University, concludes that the U.S. is returning to the stone age, referring to the broken stone on which the citizens must lead the country that invented the culture of the automobile."

[NM_Shooter]

  Oh yeah.... wiping on leaves rather than Charmin will not be as easy or pretty, but it's doable.

Rats.  All I have around here are tumbleweeds. 

[MountainDon]

pine needles in the mtns
prickly pear here at home

[muldoon]

be sure you know what poison ivy and poison oak look like.  (not just when its green but what it looks like in the dead of winter too!). 

[glenn kangiser]

Poison oak - this time of year here is simply a leafless stick..... but then in absence of leaves... yeah - it would be good to know...

[ScottA]

You could always use federal reserve notes. I think I'll use a few before my next deposit.