I have wondered for years how McDonald's (and several others - Burger King and Jack in the Box as well as the school lunch programs all use it) ....how they could call that brown sawdust like substance in their burgers 100% beef.
This article tells how the secret ingredient, "Pink Slime" is made from trimmings that used to have to be thrown out for grease and dog food. [hungry]
Yum..... [waiting]
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/12/31/us/31meat.html?pagewanted=1&_r=2&sq=beef&st=cse&scp=1
Will I stop eating there? I dunno --- the end product looks like something resembling a cardboard hamburger.
:P :P I can't vouch for it but, I was told by a wholesale food distributor that McD's was a very large buyer of beef eyeballs which were ground up to provide more "juiciness" to their burgers----not that there is anything wrong with cows eyeballs I guess.
Yummy heh heh
It's true; mechanically separated meat can be produced from bones and other trimmings at one tenth the cost of finer cuts of meat, and "Pink slime" is not an innaccurate description:
http://tywkiwdbi.blogspot.com/2009/01/mechanically-separated-meat.html
(http://www.toplessrobot.com/mechanically%20separated%20chicken.jpg)
O.K. that's it I'm know a Venisontarian [waiting]
Thanks, Pox. That's disgusting. [scared]
I have always thought that some of the cardboard-like fibrous material in McD's hamburgers was ground up bones. [idea]
Crimoney. I have had to come back and look at that pink slime picture about 4 times already..... [waiting]
A mechanical separator is really pretty cool to watch. It is much more complex than just grinding up bones. When I worked in a salmon processing plant in Alaska, we had one that we used on all the fish carcasses after the fillets were removed. All the carcasses went in a hopper at the top, and a worm fed them into a drum that is spinning at very high speed. The drum is perforated with tiny holes, so the soft tissue is pressed out through the holes by centrifugal force, while the clean bones are pushed out of the end. The result was pure red salmon paste that was used to make sausage and other processed salmon products. It was pure profit, as the carcasses would otherwise be ground up and flushed out into the river.
I'm much more concerned by the ammonia in the food than I am with centrifuge seperated protein additives. Growing up "hillbilly" I have no issues consuming less-than-prime portions of an animal.
Now you went and blew my impression of you, Frank.
I have always thought of you as sophisticated.... [waiting]
The ammonia bothers me too. That can't be good for us.
According to this 15 PPM is the safe level. http://www.marlerclark.com/case_news/view/gateway-cold-storage-ammonia-poisoning-illinois (http://www.marlerclark.com/case_news/view/gateway-cold-storage-ammonia-poisoning-illinois)
Seems in the above Pink Slime paste it was in the hundreds. Likely an explanation for why we often get the, "I don't think I should have eaten that" feeling after eating at or local fast "food" joint.
Looks like this is the key...
QuoteSavini said the commodities program is "a multimillion-dollar industry for food processors, farmers, and cold storage warehouses."
http://www.marlerclark.com/case_news/detail/unit-5-investigation-the-school-lunch-secret
If you think about it 3rd world countrys eat everyting its all calories.
I have a friend that shot his frist deer and invited me over for liver and onions. I was late getting there and when I showed up he told me something was wrong with the liver. It tasted funny?
As near as I could tell he had cooked one of the lungs rofl and left the liver for the coyotes :(
I can not bring myself to eat any internal organs. I just can't.
Once when I lived in Oregon, a friend presented me with a fresh deer liver and asked me to cook it for him. I soaked it in milk like I do cow's liver, then sauteed it with bacon and onions.
It was the best liver I ever ate, very mild and not gamey at all. Are any other venison organs good eats?
The heart is my favorite heh I have friends that eat the kidneys :-\ I won't even try that :o
Then there is bear gallbladdar. Worth big money on the Asian market. you dry it and eat it in a powder forum
It makes things work down south :) If you have that problem ???
Hey we are hyjacking Glenn's topic [cool]
Ahhhh....grasshopper, the student surpasses the teacher... [waiting]
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 03, 2010, 11:02:01 PM
Ahhhh....grasshopper, the student surpasses the teacher... [waiting]
Ya someday when I grow up I want to be as smart as you think you are teacher [scared]
Ahhhh, Grasshopper, you should live that long.... [waiting]
Quote from: rwanders on January 03, 2010, 12:33:13 AM
:P :P I can't vouch for it but, I was told by a wholesale food distributor that McD's was a very large buyer of beef eyeballs which were ground up to provide more "juiciness" to their burgers----not that there is anything wrong with cows eyeballs I guess.
RW, I checked this out a bit --- Snopes reports on it and says false, but their report is a very poor argument based solely on their opinion and reasoning as to why McD's wouldn't do this. Snopes has been caught up with before and I tend to agree with you.
I think it is likely that they do get the eyeballs and Whitlock mentioned that either the Mexicans or Portuguese he knew would fight to eat the eyeballs out of the cooked animal heads at the barbecue.
Heck ya I'm serfisticated. Dang near epicurean even.
Anybody here ever try squirrel brains? Fish cheeks? BBQ racoon?
If you eat it quick and keep everything clean, you don't need ammonia!
-f-
Where is Epicurea located, Shooter? -I couldn't find it on the map... [waiting]
No wonder I've only eaten 1 Big Mac in my life & one regular hamburger... they looked suspicious & tasted even worse... :P
Quote from: glenn kangiser on January 04, 2010, 03:18:27 PM
Where is Epicurea located, Shooter? -I couldn't find it on the map... [waiting]
It's between Old Joe and Calico Rock. Not much left of the place since the revenuers found out.
"Fish cheeks?"
Yes, from big halibut....and really good!
Quote from: NM_Shooter on January 04, 2010, 09:39:59 AM
Anybody here ever try squirrel brains? Fish cheeks?
Halibut cheeks are a delicacy.
http://www.fishex.com/fish-market/halibut/halibut-cheeks.html
Food Inc and The Future of Food are both good flicks.
If it's slower than us, it probably calls for deep frying.
Anybody remember Soylent Green... or maybe pink? hmm
Soylent Green is in good taste now with all the green hype...
Right???
Bruce
That picture of the pink slime was disgusting! This is craziness. I eat fast food on occasion, but I stay away from burger joints because of the high cholesterol, fat, etc. Now I'm scared to eat any fast food with meat in it.
I've become increasingly more careful of the food I buy. I read labels and try to stay away from fake food.
Glenn, I liked your use of quotations earlier when you wrote fast "food."
Quote from: MountainDon on January 05, 2010, 10:40:35 AM
Quote from: Sonoran on January 05, 2010, 02:24:08 AM
Now I'm scared to eat any fast food with meat in it.
Eat meat that is not ground up. I would think that a fish fillet or a chicken breast would be a safer bet.
Unless you grind it yourself :o
So so glad I'm a vegetarian.
disgusting.... I haven't eaten fast food in a long long time (OK, so the I don't count the very occasional Chick-fil-A because it tastes so darn good....) but seeing the pink slime photo would convince me not to if I wasn't already convinced! [yuk] [yuk] [yuk] Seeing as my stomach has been a little on the weak side for the past three months anyway, I'm not sure I should have even read this thread.
Yep, its pretty gross. And what is ironic is that one has to expend extra effort and vigilence to simply bring home unprocessed food. The processed stuff is easier to acquire these days. ???
Quote from: Sonoran on January 05, 2010, 02:24:08 AM
That picture of the pink slime was disgusting! This is craziness. I eat fast food on occasion, but I stay away from burger joints because of the high cholesterol, fat, etc. Now I'm scared to eat any fast food with meat in it.
I've become increasingly more careful of the food I buy. I read labels and try to stay away from fake food.
Glenn, I liked your use of quotations earlier when you wrote fast "food."
You caught what I really meant - Is it really? [noidea'
Glad you got back in to see the pink slime pix, Homey. :)
Some more food for thought-
http://health.msn.com/nutrition/articlepage.aspx?cp-documentid=100254643>1=31036
It gets worse...
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b39_1211069857
If you like store bought chicken you may not want to read the above article. You will have to click the more link as I could not find as direct link to the article.
Ignore the .... "Meet Sexy women in your area" link..... [waiting]
Glenn,
As a tail-end of the Boomers, the government has been feeding me s*** for years. A little on my chicken is no big deal. I just make sure I fry or BBQ it well... d*
I ignored the second link...I was afraid to click it. [shocked]
I'm the tail end also.... and you know what is under the tail.... [waiting]
Just a bump.... Glenn was ahead of the rest of the country.
Not just McDonalds as it turned out.
Sort of surprised there were no recent comments. Today I hear that the manufacturer of pink slime, aka lean finely textured beef, have closed 3 of their 4 plants for 60 days. maybe longer if their ad program they are about to blitz us with doesn't work.
I think that anything that has to be as processed as this crap is simply something we were not really meant to eat. Maybe the dog?
Quote from: NM_Shooter on January 03, 2010, 10:29:17 AM
I'm much more concerned by the ammonia in the food than I am with centrifuge seperated protein additives. Growing up "hillbilly" I have no issues consuming less-than-prime portions of an animal.
Yep, we always said "Use everything but the squeal" on butchering day.
McDonalds...how do they get meat byproducts out of grease and soybeans (Groy) ???
It hasn't been a secret for years. It was in the Food Inc. movie and has been a staple of many vegetarian movements. I wonder why people have a problem with it now? Wait till they find out what mechanically separated chicken is for chicken nuggets.
I watched all those movies and it made me want to get a cheeseburger. I close my eyes and my brain tells me it is delicious.
Not everyone has seen the movie. I haven't.
Not everyone reads about the vegetarian movement. I don't.
Lots of people watch ABC National TV news most nights. They just got a lot more exposure.
I'm glad to see it happen. I don't see how anyone can eat McNuggets.
I hardly eat any of this stuff anymore. Maybe a filet of fish once in a while... but wait... is it really fish.... ?
Another thing that commonly makes my stomach start churning is the lettuce they put on sandwiches... Burger King fish sandwich looked better than McDonalds, but their lettuce or maybe the grease coating their onion rings had me yelling for Ralph at 4AM. ... [waiting]
Squirl, I'm with you. Having knowledge of how animals are butchered makes me a little less sqeamish than most. The product is safe, so eat on I will. "Pink Slime" is just a term designed to scare folks away from a safe product, but if folks don't want to eat it, than they won't. More for me!!