Hello all,
I baught the pump jacks to install my windows and siding, but because the place that I really need them in is tha gable end, hence imposes challanges on how to secure it to the structure. It was suggested that the bolts on the metal roof be used to bolt a jig made of plywood as a way of doing it, but I am afraid that I will screwup the metal roof. I thought of scaffolding, but they are heavy for one person to setup especially to put 3 on top of each other to reach the gable end (20' high from the ground).
Hence I started thinking of either a Scissor lift or Articaled boom. Even through they run around $600 per week, but I am ready to do that if it is something that would work.
Hence I am asking to see if anyone had tried this method to reach high places.
This is for the 1.5 stories 30x20 cottage.
Thanks
Sharbin
Ladders + ladder jacks + a plank?
What about building a scaffold by nailing a 2x10 to each side of your house at the same height so that it overhangs by a three feet and then running a board (2x12) between the two and then supporting it midpoint with a 2x?
This is high, but it does not strike me as that high that you couldn't find another way....
But if the $600 is within the budget, that would definitely be a safe way of doing it.
Or you could you take that $600 and hire someone to do it.....
mt
Are you opposed to screwing plywood pumpjack "lids" to the fascia? I've done that and caulked the holes rather than damage the roof before.
How many ways to use a pump jack ,
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I am going through the same contortions on siding my gable right now too. While I did read PEG's post and his attachment method is quite innovative, I didn't want to have to get back up on my metal roof again (high and slick) and I didn't want to have to drill holes into the metal to attach a bracket/plate. And finally, I wasn't confident that attaching them to the fascia would be secure enough.
So, here is what I'm using. I'll call them lean-to scaffolds.
I tried this on the side wall to make sure it works (and I wasn't too high off the ground); pic one
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That worked well, so I built some taller ones
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All my work at this level is done; today I moved the walkboard up to the window bottoms.
Notice there is a diagonal from the horizontal support to the tripod. This keeps the walkboard from swaying when you walk on it.
So, far I've been pretty happy with the results. My gable is about 25 feet above ground. The tripods are built from 12' 2x4 overlapped anywhere from six to nine linear feet, with lots of 3" screws holding everything together. And there are angle brackets attached to the leg bases with rebar pins driven into the ground to totally secure the legs from moving.
Anybody see anything terribly wrong about this design...speak up...please.
Good luck on getting your gable sided.
Thank you for the input.
Peg688, thanks for all the info. I guess I have the same phobia as "n74tg" in dealing with roofs :-[
Don_P, the delima in attaching to the facia is that I need to install it too! So here goes out the fascia idea.
MikeT, if it was a $600 or even a $1000 I would gladly hire someone. But for installing the Windows, Fascia, Soffit, Siding... most probably it will cost a lot more than that. But looking at your suggestion and that of n74tg(thanks a lot for the pictures and explanation) it gives some ideas.
Sharbin:
About window install. I was able to install all my windows by myself, and do it from inside the building.
All the windows are double hung, so top and bottom glass panels can be removed. What's left is just the frame, and that isn't heavy at all. The frames have some foam rubber gasket material around all four sides. That gasket material did a wonderful job of temporarily holding the frame in the rough opening hole until I could get them attached.
What is it about your windows install that worries you?
Quote from: sharbin on August 27, 2009, 09:14:43 AM
Peg688, thanks for all the info. I guess I have the same phobia as "n74tg" in dealing with roofs :-[
The way I detailed the plywood bracket was the key , the slotted holes allowed the use of the single screw the roofer used in the center ( or pretty close to center that why the slotted holes .
I used a larger screw about a #10 so plenty of shear strenght and large washers with small center holes to transfer the "load" of the screw. Look on the "what peg's been up to" thread I think thats where I did a more thorough explanation.
When we remover the brackets we drove Cedar "splinters" with glue on them into the hole so the normal roofing screw with rubber gasket would have something to catch.
In other areas I screwed down a 2x8 ish , wrapped in carpet pad , again using the one existing screw hole then attached the upper bracket to that 2x.
It all depends on how creative you are or in my case needed to be to safely stage the areas.
2 of my windows are 5x6 single hung and the rest are about 4x4s also single hung. I guess for the big ones I can defenitly use the pump jack (I already baught 3 :-\) but most of my worries are about installing 4 windows (2 on each side) of the gable and also 4 dormer windows to contend with. I am starting looking into ways of building the scaffolds with wood. But now you've mentioned that you can install windows from inside, that would make things easier, but I still have to install siding and fascia/soffit.
Quote from: n74tg on August 27, 2009, 08:40:42 PM
Sharbin:
About window install. I was able to install all my windows by myself, and do it from inside the building.
All the windows are double hung, so top and bottom glass panels can be removed. What's left is just the frame, and that isn't heavy at all. The frames have some foam rubber gasket material around all four sides. That gasket material did a wonderful job of temporarily holding the frame in the rough opening hole until I could get them attached.
What is it about your windows install that worries you?