Hey everyone,
I'm currently researching tankless water heaters since my well is now setup. I really like the Bosch Aquastar 1600H-LP ( hydro fed pilot ignition model ) and I'm leaning towards the vertical vent system.
Here are the prices for both from a few distributors: I think I'm leaning towards the reconditioned unit because of the $100-$150 savings. Is that what some of you would do also? Or would you go with other models?
PexSupply.com ( free shipping )
1600HLP - $699
H/P VVT - $109
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$807
Amazon.com ( free shipping )
1600H-LP - $649
H/P VVT - $115
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$755
Bosch Reconditioned - full factory warranty - $549 free shipping
http://cgi.ebay.com/Bosch-AquaStar-Pro-1600H-LP-Gas-Tankless-Water-Heater_W0QQitemZ180389323637QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a000aa375&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14 (http://cgi.ebay.com/Bosch-AquaStar-Pro-1600H-LP-Gas-Tankless-Water-Heater_W0QQitemZ180389323637QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item2a000aa375&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14)
h/p vvt - $109 free shipping
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$659
What temperature is your well water? If it is down near 38 like mine, don't skimp on the BTU capacity for your tankless. I have a Rennai with 199,000 BTU which has proved to be very adequate.
I just read the installation manual on that model. Is supposed to be mounted on a wall, indoors, where it doesn't get cold/frozen...and "is not approved for: installation in bathroom, bedroom or other occupied rooms normally kept closed."
Overkill? Maybe....
Anyway I just saw one listed on craigslist for $450. The sellers said they put it in their cabin (1 sink, no shower) and found it was overkill. I'd love to snap it up but I'm depending on installing mine outside.
http://olympic.craigslist.org/app/1289865004.html
Well water temperature is a big factor to consider. Those things are all rated on so many GPM at a certain temperature rise.
As far as whether or not to buy a reconditioned one; as long as the warranty is the same I'd go for saving some money. That is after I'd completed my research and had picked that model anyways, or at least had it on my short list. I do not put the price first, although it is a factor of course.
Same warranty Don. I agree with you too. I'll probably buy reconditioned. I've done it with a lot of things and its always worked out great.
Good point rwanders, my well water is around 37 degrees year round. I wonder if I'd have to lower the water pressure if It wasn't heating the water up enough ??? So that water goes through the heater slower?
You will need to achieve your temperaiure rise at a minimum of 2.5 gpm for a good shower. Pressure adjustment will not work---BTU output is what controls the performance.
I have an AquaStar up at the farm -- it is about 9 years old and works fine
it has not been used continuously but just when we are up there
the only problem is because of the VERY hard water (lots of calcium) the flow is not as high as it was new
I think I need to just clean out the coils with come vinegar
the well water is so cold it makes your hands hurt --probably 50 degrees F but the water out is plenty hot
my 2 cents
I'd go for the new one myself if you can afford it, although the reconditioned one carries a warranty...
I have the same one but previous model. It works great.
The seller or maybe instructions said not to make your water any hotter than the hottest thing you need it for as the hotter it gets the more scale you get. We make it hot as we want in the shower if it is 100% hot water.
Most of the time we find the re-con stuff good but we have had the occasional re-curring unfound problem in a computer that makes me question the sense of the use of the re-cons.
Thanks everyone.
I ended up buying the reconditioned one at the first bid price of $509 + free shipping. I also bought the vertical vent kit for $109 + free shipping. All in all, I feel like its a good deal considering the warranty.