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Title: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Ernest T. Bass on April 29, 2009, 02:28:27 PM
Hey all- I threw together a bunch of pics from our cabin project now that we are nearly done w/ it..

http://www.vimeo.com/4399176

Have a great day!
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: jbos333 on April 29, 2009, 04:57:01 PM
Wow! That is awesome! Do you have any building code to follow where you built that? I'd love to do one of those but I don't think I'd get approval from the inspector......
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Ernest T. Bass on April 29, 2009, 05:16:21 PM
Yeah, we applied for a permit and everything. Our inspector is lazy and lenient; it's the health department that is a real pain in the rear... The deal is we're supposed to have an expensive big fancy outhouse built to their specs before anyone can step foot in the cabin. Not sure if we're going to be able to afford it any time soon though...
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: MountainDon on April 29, 2009, 08:13:31 PM
 [cool]  Andrew!  The cabin's alright, too!   ;D
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Don_P on April 29, 2009, 10:11:04 PM
Cool!
Google Greensted Church sometime if you've not seen it. It's about 1200 years old IIRC.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 29, 2009, 10:12:22 PM
That was an outstanding video and cabin, Andrew.  Great work. :)
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: glenn kangiser on April 29, 2009, 10:15:56 PM
Cool church w/ vertical logs, Don_P.

http://www.beenthere-donethat.org.uk/greensted05big.html
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Sassy on April 29, 2009, 10:28:57 PM
I'm impressed!  Looks really nice & you did a great job on the video as usual  [cool]
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Ernest T. Bass on April 29, 2009, 11:29:28 PM
Couldn't have done it without your guys' help! Awesome church.. Wouldn't take long to build a wall with logs like that.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: poppy on April 30, 2009, 12:15:52 PM
Neat cabin.  I like the way you dried it in before insulating the floor.  I may try to do that for my cabin project.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Ernest T. Bass on April 30, 2009, 01:19:56 PM
We did that for cost reasons; the t&g makes a nice subfloor and finish floor for now.. However, a trip to the hospital to set a broken leg would have quickly negated the cost advantage. ;) I would recommend more scraps of plywood or something to temporarily give you a safer working surface.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: pagan on April 30, 2009, 01:33:47 PM
Very nice. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Windpower on April 30, 2009, 04:21:19 PM
That was awesome !

very nice cabin too

I liked the way you showed the morticed joints popping together

Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: MountainDon on April 30, 2009, 04:49:42 PM
Quote from: poppy on April 30, 2009, 12:15:52 PM
.... I like the way you dried it in before insulating the floor.  I may try to do that for my cabin project.

When building a conventional raised platform floor the subflooring is nailed to the rim joists as well as the cross joists. Maybe I'm being too conservative with my own approach than need be.  :-\
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Ernest T. Bass on April 30, 2009, 11:34:59 PM
Basically our "rim joist" is a 6x10 beam that the walls sit on, since vertical logs don't disperse their weight to the piers very effectively. I also aligned the 2x6 joists to the bottom of the perimeter beam so that the flooring doesn't have to be scribed to the logs... In hindsight, I think I would have just used deeper joists and eliminated the center floor girder. Because of the different settling rate compared to the perimeter piers, the floor has a slight bow over the center of the cabin. I was kind of expecting this; not sure it it'll even out in time once there's weight in the house (walls, furniture, etc).
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: NM_Shooter on May 01, 2009, 08:27:02 PM
Well, holy cow.  I don't know what I was expecting, but that far exceeds it.  I don't even know you but I am proud of your work!  Your dad must be beside himself. 

Very, very nice work. 

-f-
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 05, 2009, 08:09:40 AM
Showed your video to a friend, Andrew.  Got him thinking about copying you.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Ernest T. Bass on May 05, 2009, 08:48:26 AM
How flattering. :) There isn't too much about the system that I'd do differently... It would certainly be faster if straight logs like spruce were used. Also, if time was a factor (and money wasn't), or if you didn't have much help on hand, I think that built up dimensional trusses would look handsome enough and would be a lot easier than all the log notching. You could probably just use a double 2x plate on top of the log walls instead of the big log bonding beam like we have.

We just had the logs and I wanted to learn how to do the different notches and waste a bunch of time. ;)
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: speedfunk on May 05, 2009, 09:34:05 PM
Great looking cabin...thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: NM_Shooter on May 05, 2009, 09:54:09 PM
How can you possibly consider learning those skills a waste of time? 

I bet 1 in 10,000 folks can't do that.
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: Ernest T. Bass on May 05, 2009, 11:06:26 PM
Quote from: NM_Shooter on May 05, 2009, 09:54:09 PM
How can you possibly consider learning those skills a waste of time? 

I bet 1 in 10,000 folks can't do that.

Well, there's an awful lot of folks out there who couldn't physically do it, so you might be right, but it really isn't as hard as it might seem as long as one takes it slow and doesn't take too much off.. ;) The pics are really forgiving; not all of the joints make it look like I knew what I was doing..

Yes, the time was definitely not wasted and I hope to be able to do a similar project again asap. Some people can't stand the thought of spending a half-hour carving a blind double-scribe square notch on a rafter, and I'll admit that it tried my patience at times, but I figure it's more important to forget about the time it takes to do a good job and that the speed will increase on it's own with practice.. At least that's what I kept telling myself. ;)
Title: Re: Video Slideshow of our Vertical Log Cabin Project
Post by: glenn kangiser on May 05, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
It wouldn't have half the character if you did it the easy way. :)