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Title: The American Form of Government
Post by: MountainDon on March 13, 2009, 09:35:59 PM
I'm not sure where this video originated but it is quite good, IMO.
(click below)
Political Systems: Monarchy, Oligarchy, Democracy, Republic, Anarchy (http://www.wimp.com/thegovernment/)

It's ten minutes long, longer of you are on dialup.  ;D

I came across it on wimp.com (http://wimp.com/)
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: sparks on March 13, 2009, 10:24:16 PM
Nice find Don.




sparks




Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
I can agree with that - I have been telling people for years that we are a republic- not a democracy, but that is all we have been selling to the world for years Democracy, democracy, democracy.  [noidea'

What gives... [waiting]
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: ScottA on March 13, 2009, 10:55:51 PM
Democracy was so Clinton era. We've had an Oligarchy for several years already.
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: MountainDon on March 13, 2009, 11:42:46 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
I have been telling people for years that we are a republic- not a democracy, but that is all we have been selling to the world for years Democracy, democracy, democracy. 

One of the things I like about that video is it presents a pretty clear explanation of the difference between a democracy and a republic. I believe the majority of the people in this country don't have a clue about the difference. Heck, tonight I caught a bit where an elected senator referred to the USA as being a democracy.

It is very frustrating. Even more frustrating is what has happened and is happening still with the erosion of what the Founders envisioned.

At 9 minutes and 15 seconds replace the word "Romans" with "Americans".  :(


Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 11:53:36 PM
I don't know what is happening here, Don.  I am in total agreement with you. :)  d* d* d*

They have been selling and preaching democracy for years - because it benefits them - We have been selling democracy to Iraq - check out the speeches over the years --- all of our polys - selling democracy. 

They do not want the limits a Republic (the one for which it stands), puts on them. 

If we got back to the Republic our founding fathers gave us, we would not have the problems we have today. 


Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: Sonoran on March 14, 2009, 12:34:53 AM
I pledge allegiance to the flag, of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC...
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: BobHHowell on March 14, 2009, 01:18:24 AM
If the Senate was still elected by the House instead of the public ... we would have one group of representation that was NOT beholden to lobbyist to get elected.  We have institutionalized bribery. 
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: Windpower on March 14, 2009, 08:40:54 AM

Naomi Wolf

(http://tbn2.google.com/images?q=tbn:rgxOj5B3h9j2LM:http://oregonstate.edu/dept/ncs/photos/naomiwolf.jpg)

The 10 steps to Fascism

http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=naomi+wolf+end+of+america&hl=en&emb=0&aq=1&oq=Naomi+Wolf#q=naomi+wolf+10+steps&hl=en&emb=0&start=0
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: BobHHowell on March 14, 2009, 10:20:20 AM
The 10 steps to Fascism

But we really did (do?) have sleeper cells.  So, if you are paranoid, and someone really is following you ... are you still paranoid?

As for made up fears ... I think Global Warming ... I mean Global Climate Change ... takes the cake.

Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: Pox Eclipse on March 14, 2009, 07:10:57 PM

Quote from: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 10:48:47 PM
I can agree with that - I have been telling people for years that we are a republic- not a democracy, but that is all we have been selling to the world for years Democracy, democracy, democracy.  

A republic and democracy are not mutually exclusive, you know...

We are a republic which is governed by system of representative democracy (where the people are represented by elected officials), rather than direct democracy (where everyone votes on every law).  This is in no way inconsistent with a republic.
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: MountainDon on March 15, 2009, 03:16:00 PM
A direct democracy would be totally unworkable.
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: IronRanger on March 18, 2010, 01:40:23 PM
Another good watch:

Naomi Wolf: 'Obama can lock any US citizen up without trial'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLSeD19m3UE&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: waggin on March 18, 2010, 01:46:25 PM
Quote from: glenn kangiser on March 13, 2009, 11:53:36 PM
I don't know what is happening here, Don.  I am in total agreement with you. :)  d* d* d*

They have been selling and preaching democracy for years - because it benefits them - We have been selling democracy to Iraq - check out the speeches over the years --- all of our polys - selling democracy. 

They do not want the limits a Republic (the one for which it stands), puts on them. 

If we got back to the Republic our founding fathers gave us, we would not have the problems we have today. 





Be nice to America...or we'll bring democracy to your country too.
Title: Re: The American Form of Government
Post by: pagan on March 19, 2010, 08:35:11 AM
"Tyranny of the elite"...pretty much sums it all up right there.